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decimation: except they achieved lock-in by getting usg to enforce their comms standard & getting the cell phone ownership to agree
asciilifeform: presently that's usg.
decimation: yes, there is much wisdom here. the electronics market consists nearly entirely of lock-in, either by complexity, inertia, or usg enforcement (patents, etc)
decimation: from his point of view, he has a design team of usg zeks to work for him?
decimation: I guess he's getting paid to hustle for his usg masters
asciilifeform: point is that 'w4r3z dangle' is a time-honoured usg tactic.
asciilifeform: afaik the only customer is usg.
asciilifeform: dreary usg (and useful-idiots) claptrap.
decimation: actually usg would be much better off if it simply disbanded the department of state
decimation: asciilifeform: My point is that no one in the entire us media 'noticed' that the intercept (which was supposedly sophisticated) came from usg 'leaders' talking on unsecure lines
asciilifeform: ukraine << so what. did even a single usg minion die from the intercepted phone ?
asciilifeform: decimation: usg 'leaders' think of themselves as being above such trivialities as secure communications << of what concern is what a muppet says to another muppet ?
decimation: one gets the picture that usg 'leaders' think of themselves as being above such trivialities as secure communications
decimation: asciilifeform: it's possible that at least someone inside usg who was charged with developing secure computing actually got somewhere
asciilifeform: decimation: usg did have a few 'parallel universes' of computing. there is, afaik, still a lab or two that use symbolics boxes, for example
decimation: asciilifeform: I think it's the case that there is (or was) some meta-usg lab that could conceive and develop secure terminal - perhaps already has
decimation: that's the midget that the usg has squashed by sitting on the computer industry stool
decimation: asciilifeform: I agree with your hypothesis in that I think USG genuinely guides the computer industry into insecurity
thestringpuller: I'm pretty sure there is some privatize black site that is superior to USG version.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: it seems privatized groups are better at disappearing acts than the USG's agency.
decimation: eh, I guess I'm not that cynical. I believe that any scrap of evidence that can be used to stir shit up will be used by usg to sell an agenda
asciilifeform: in fact, discountable on account of mere mention by usg.
decimation: asciilifeform: microsoft produces shitware -> sony uses shitware -> 'best' korea abuses shitware -> usg gains 'writ' to more tax dollars
decimation: usg's 'hand' is a corpse at best
asciilifeform: http://villageundertaker.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/att000022.jpg << 'usg divided against itself'
decimation: if usg supports the suit to annoy snowden, they tacitly admit that they are stewards of the taxpayer's property, and open themselves up to claims against malfeasance
decimation: BingoBoingo: the lawsuit is actually amusing, because it divides usg against itself
decimation: BingoBoingo: coupled with the vague announcement yesterday, it seems someone in usg has decided to pull the plug on tor; possibly related to this sony attack
asciilifeform: ever wonder how intel sells to both usg and plebes ?
decimation: asciilifeform: the government to some degree, yes, but the people are quite tired of usg camping there
asciilifeform: eager muppet of usg since day one.
asciilifeform: also because sk (usg muppet) was the aggressor.
asciilifeform: decimation: believe literally nothing usg (or sk) sources ever said, since day 1, re: 'best korea.'
decimation: asciilifeform: it's enraging that microsoft's shit code & best korean meddling will now be used to justify more derp-o-matics from various usg departments
decimation: if usg doesn't have the will to do that, they have no business there
decimation: well, to be straight, usg needs to go back to the WWII defeated Germany/Japan playbook
decimation: plus because of the idiotic 'de-baathification' policy of usg, the most competent part of the iraqi army has already joined isis
undata: one can't assign one narrative to a pile as big as the USG
decimation: I would humbly suggest that maybe usg "failed to prepare" because they assumed that once they set the transgendered free from their oppression a new golden age would dawn
decimation: ben_vulpes: working for usg as a contractor is a soul sucking experience
decimation: ah, of course. there's no way usg is liable for the actions of someone they hired
decimation: usg simultaneously: 1) is unable to responsibly handle even minimal tasks like "keep employee details confidential" while 2.) demands others follow its crazy interpretations of its crazy laws
decimation: so, usg contractor
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: so you're of the opinions that a) it isn't worth my time to network with people in other territories and b) usg is going to collapse?
asciilifeform: from usg's point of view
decimation: usg vs. $33,000 for a cop-boat
adlai: fluffypony: hate leads to the usg side of the force. just play, have fun, go home, hope you don't get mugged on the way.
danielpbarron: "this transaction is spam because it isn't associated with a USG approved ID and taxed accordingly"
asciilifeform: sorta like what a more clever usg would have offered.
mircea_popescu: his case is unexceptional. obama couldn't argue why the usg should even exist either.
asciilifeform: i'll wait for usg nuremberg.
decimation: BingoBoingo: and of course the farmers are paid by usg to farm or not
thestringpuller: As yes, I suppose the USG is pretty much the mafia.
decimation: you will find generally at least 3 layers of usg will tell you what you can do on 'your' land
mircea_popescu: no such thing exists. tor is and was a usg hole long before pando sort-of read it in trilema. etc.
asciilifeform: i.e. the full force of usg.
asciilifeform: mats: it was a standard 'colour revolution' staged - unsuccessfully - by usg
decimation: whether the whole thing is a honeypot is debatable, but it clearly is supported by some parts of usg
decimation: if usg is the spiritual child of the nazi regime, why are they friendly with the invasion of the third world masses?
cazalla: so basically, his wife fucked him, mtgox fucked him and then big daddy USG came and fucked him one last time for good measure
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich << the 'idle' (what does this mean? << the early modern period had ample supply of this particular type. literally, idle.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich << the 'idle' (what does this mean? presumably, not occupied with directing a megacorp?) rich still exist. they spend on coke and orbital flights with hookers, not rebuilding of computing. << The conversion of cocaine from productivity aide to party favor has probably been one of the msot damaging transitions of this last hundred years
asciilifeform: usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich << the 'idle' (what does this mean? presumably, not occupied with directing a megacorp?) rich still exist. they spend on coke and orbital flights with hookers, not rebuilding of computing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: usg annihilated science to an extent no one ever, i suspect, thought of as possible. << lol not so. again the chinese lead. they burned the books 2x.
decimation: usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich
decimation: usg also stole the "having stolen science"
asciilifeform: usg annihilated science to an extent no one ever, i suspect, thought of as possible.
decimation: yes, usg 'sat' on this stool too
asciilifeform: once you clear away the usg grantsmanship, what mr. mold called 'scientocracy', you realize that actual science mostly 100% stopped around 1960.
asciilifeform: ^ grantsmanship, usg desinfo.
decimation: certainly most of their sales are to usg's layer 2
asciilifeform: i generally tag all of the parties responsible for this state of affairs as agents of usg, whether they would think of themselves as such or not.
asciilifeform: as in, usg can and will perish, but the widgets spoken of here will not magically appear.
asciilifeform: i'm not convinced this is a usg-dependent phenomenon
decimation: as long as usg sits on the stool it will remain that way
decimation: asciilifeform: "US Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act...' << obey or gasenwagen!" << USG generally has no problem giving commands to 'technical people' in its Vader Voice
decimation: ben_vulpes: yeah usg runs the tenement business now, mostly funded by its credit
asciilifeform: with a gigantic, mainly usg-operated apparatus to keep 'paying for software' as a going concern even.
asciilifeform: it all depends, also, on whether you see usa as just a normal country, or - a fundamentally criminal enterprise, whose enemies - any and all of them - are really friends of mankind by virtue of being it's enemies, and are in fact defending themselves from usg colonial rape.
undata: hm, as part of current incarnation of USG?
mats: they speak about a hundred english words between them, so i doubt they've been bought by USG.
asciilifeform: - or rather, a minimum of what to expect. the main purpose of the report appears to be usg bashing itself for hiring incompetent torturers on 'favourite son' contracts. implication is, 'we need to recruit real pros' - and every reason to expect that it will be tried, at the very least. out with the amateur finger-choppers, in with the transcranial pain centre stimulators and 'fMRI' gizmos, etc.
asciilifeform: ^ document of questionable veracity, prepared by known professional liars, but good source on what to expect when you end up in the tender care of usg.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what is the skepter of lizard hitler worth? the 300mn is simply the figure usg saw fit to write into the work of fiction
fluffypony: tell the regulators that the USG owns CLAMs by virtue of them having a bunch of BTC in May?
decimation: I think usg should go back to just raising money from trade tariffs
decimation: this is why it is annoying that usg taxes 'income'
decimation: apparently 'because' usg released data that indicated that some wages kinda went up, and some people might have been hired
asciilifeform: http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/89801/DOC_0000500644.pdf << usg gloats (internally) at great length and detail re: soviet computer industry. circa 1989.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Tase is part of why the UNHCR is shitting on USG atm
decimation: asciilifeform: one wonders how much longer usg can afford choppermeisters when drones are obviously better and cheaper
decimation: I guess usg is tacitly admitting it had no case and is frightened of an appeal
mats_cd03: anyway, like mp says, something something usg catching a falling knife twice
decimation: this is literally the bread-and-butter of the usg regime
decimation: here's the exact usg 'regulation' http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/FCC/Part-15/fcc-part-15-radio-frequency-devices-15p203.htm << "An intentional radiator shall be designed to ensure that no antenna other than that furnished by the responsible party shall be used with the device. The use of a permanently attached antenna or of an antenna
decimation: well, I'm certain that some organ of usg would claim victory under such conditions
decimation: there are many such capitulations to reality involved with usg 'regulation'
decimation: it would be nearly unbelievable if usg weren't involved
decimation: but it 'satisfies' usg requirements to make it 'difficult'
decimation: now the situation is reversed, and citizens must ask police to wield guns. This confusion is at the root of much of what is wrong with usg.