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mircea_popescu: see alf, I TOLD YOU teh chinese will break it. did i tell you ?
mod6: yeah, i get some strictness errors with gnatmake, probably can fix as discussed above.
mod6: hey asciilifeform, never thought i'd say this but: thanks for the horsecocks!
asciilifeform: i'd expect those'd be sold for soap
asciilifeform: also i expect the criminal case against the chick, will somehow evaporate.
mircea_popescu: i did not. also am not going to. for very precisely the trinque reason, i can't be arsed to read $nobody provenance items.
asciilifeform: i did..
mircea_popescu: trinque i don't think anyone bothered to read the content of the crap.
asciilifeform: the various hazing rituals, and onerous bureaucracy associated with said cult, are well-documented elsewhere, i will not bother to recount.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666594 << ~anyone, supposing he has a u.s. passport, and 0 official record of judgements against him, can get 'top secret clearance' with corporate sponsorship. the filtration (i.e. who is permitted into any interesting 'compartment') comes ~after~ ☝︎
asciilifeform: i won't even bother to link to it. who wants -- can find.
asciilifeform: ( now that i think about it, we could also obtain the eggog code by invoking a mmap that will be certain to fail, and recording the result. but ugghh... )
asciilifeform: i probably oughta explain why we even have this MAP_FAILED : constant Address := System'To_Address(16#FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF#);
asciilifeform: what can i say, the statement is 100% legal per the standard
diana_coman: and yes, I just double checked arch
diana_coman: I can confirm it eats that part fine once changed to QItem'Image(V) instead of V'Image
asciilifeform: it won't actually matter in any of my properly (v-genesis) released material -- i have no plan to use gnat's standard io for anything
asciilifeform: mod6 recently ran into exact same issue, but for some reason i can't turn it up in the log
diana_coman: asciilifeform, furthermore: adding -gnat12 got rid of the default discriminant barfs (as promised by ada docs) but I still have the complaints on prefix of "image" attribute
mircea_popescu: i dunno. somewhat of a game of chicken, lots of "valuable" real estate piled up there. saudi arabia is particularly frail, if rockets start falling in capital the whole saudi nonsense will prolly end.
diana_coman: hmmm; asciilifeform at a quick make (on a machine where I played with Ada successfully - if little - before) I get this: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/lMtJf/?raw=true
diana_coman: sorry, I was deep into other stuff and got directly onto the ping, w.o. getting to catch up with the log
asciilifeform: ( though it is not why i made an mmaptron )
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, i thought qatar was a peninsula.
diana_coman: I mean: I could call from C code the methods provided in Ada code
asciilifeform: mod6, phf , et al : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/ada/horsecocks.tar.gz << i dun recall posting this before, so here it will live, for nao : unofficial release of mmaptron ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 15:46 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1635918 << i suspect alf has a very strong bias pro algae and anti bacteria. i'm not altogether convinced the view has any merit.
asciilifeform: i.e. the only kind of system that could even in principle contain room for massive-improvements
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: best analogy i can think of -- 'xerocopy of xerocopy...'
asciilifeform: i suppose if your auto is a leaf blower
asciilifeform: i.e. the thing was jumpered out 'for a reason'
asciilifeform: this, now that i think of it, is a universal annoyance, in other walks of life also
asciilifeform: 'I can't imagine having kids, i worry enough about the impact of #climatechange on my cats' << loller
BingoBoingo: ^ I rarely consult that source, but they do read social media
asciilifeform: i recommend heinz höhne's mega-backbreaker re subj
mircea_popescu: no, i understand how the in-story narrative goes. i'm talking about reality for a moment.
mircea_popescu: sure. i'm just shaking my head in disbelief at the notion someone they'd consider would actually consider going.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last i heard, ideological purity was the #1 thing there. and something like 10-20% of admissions were reserved for the Officially Sad, and similar number -- for heirs of previous generation of mandarins
danielpbarron: but i think even if you accidentally agree to use changes, it'll put them in a ._* hidden file that you still have to manually mv to the correct place
trinque: thing bowed to "do what I mean" right there.
trinque: seems the cautious move, right? show me what you're going to do, shithead. but no, means HOLD MY BEER; I'M GOING TO CHANGE /etc/portage/*
asciilifeform: but i believe.
asciilifeform: lol i never tried that one
trinque: I'm aware of how they work.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666500 << i build 1.4.10 by hand, typically, it's a straight ./configure && make && make install ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 16:28 danielpbarron: i have X working with this ^ in use
asciilifeform: the cure, so far, that i've found, for 'it optimizes', is... gnat
asciilifeform: ... but it isn't as if i ever audited 4.x. ...or 3.x, or 1.x..!
danielpbarron: i have X working with this ^ in use ☟︎
lobbes: I think they do match what goes into void, but the 1% refers to amount taken out of paychex
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 16:14 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666247 << fwiw, I have a saved copy; I will host/post later tonight for curious members of audience (unless someone beats me to it)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666247 << fwiw, I have a saved copy; I will host/post later tonight for curious members of audience (unless someone beats me to it) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666449 << linked more or less wholly for that detail. i gotta wonder, how many of these 'moon units' walking around nao ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and if experience with the empire of "i just want to" lazy idiots is any guide, they're DEFINITELY not going to "get in trouble for buying microsoft". because "nobody could have predicted" and "they were just doing their job" which "hey man, it's just a gig, it's not my life!" ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: awww, but i thought nobody ever tampers with usg elections and the proposition "was discredited" and etc!!1
trinque: "oh X because unrelated Y because I'm god's child"
trinque: works better in this environment, and I understand why the notion is revolting.
trinque: I've seen instances before where a guy made a tool, went around to a few folks showing them "the greatestest X" thinking "they're smart, will pick up my tool and use"
asciilifeform: ( the two, i maintain, are not unrelated )
asciilifeform: ( i haven't a nintendo yet, at least!111 )
asciilifeform: eh hey i got another room where i do things for pay, and there are all kinds of horrors there, even winblowz vm
asciilifeform: fact: FG would not exist if i had to design and test it on a winblowz box.
trinque: also, I said "no recourse" earlier and you balked
asciilifeform: one could ask for, i suppose, 'i dun want to consciously mine on orphan chain', but this is not up to you, and in the degenerate case it reduces to... asking to be stupider
asciilifeform: e.g. i fully intend a dos port of 'p'.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666358 << phunphakt: dos drivers (tsr!) exist for ~all recent nic chipsets. i don't even know why, but they do. they figure in my eternal 'reverse rtlink GB chip' thing. ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: what'd it even mean for life 'not wasted' ? i gotta ask
trinque: not as if I wouldn't like there to be recourse here.
mircea_popescu: i don't. there's nothing to capsule. have some lulz-debian with their epic rngs capsuled ? noty.
trinque: I think phf is right in pointing to old debian cd sets as dep time capsules.
trinque: asciilifeform: no disagreement there either; here I sit on my own heirloom pistolchair
asciilifeform: i speak of gentoo in past tense. but it remains that every box i will ever, likely, live to use , will still be made from bricks of the ruins of gentoo, and not from anything else.
asciilifeform: i.e. ~0 required programs.
trinque: considering the million years worth of surprise, I'm inclined to believe that standardization on gentoo or whatever else is insane.
trinque: obviously what I said.
asciilifeform: i have not tested it.
ben_vulpes: trinque: kinda what i'm looking at
asciilifeform: (i.e. resulted in a very usable box, that i still use every day)
asciilifeform: before you say 'nowai' -- i was equally surprised that the poettering ban worked as well as it did
mircea_popescu: as i was saying, been there, done that, got no tshirt.
gabriel_laddel_p: I don't have the disk space to back these up myself, but someone can start with: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1552071 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'ma hazard a guess, that you will barf long before ever succeeding in actually tracking down 100% of the src that adds up to a given rathead install.
phf: yeah, i think they package them into srpms, but i'm not sure if they are mandatory step in the distribution process
phf: i don't think bsd mirrors it either, it's not mandatory by design anyway
asciilifeform: phf: i assumed he meant 'the mirrors'
mircea_popescu: i briefly tried to do that on s.mg. it... didn't work out.
mircea_popescu: i thought this is what we're all trying. only to discover that whatever, xorg now no longer builds without gcc5 etc.
asciilifeform: incidentally phf, i've been using the machine i built wih that recipe, ever since, and the list of proggies that - turns out - won't build ( because terminally infested ) is getting ever longer
phf: of course as soon as i asked, i figured out the right keywords
phf: i keep losing ascii's original gentoo recipe. anybody got a link handy?
mircea_popescu: the fatsos are really offensive by now with their "oh, i have a right to exist" bullshit.
BingoBoingo: Punchline: "I am staying with the lighter, nimbler, simpler B400. I love my 400. Thank You. "
BingoBoingo: " Yes Suzuki, I am FAT! 315 pounds and my passenger is another 225, plus 50 pounds of our junk to carry for a total of 590 pounds on my 08 Burgman 400! My 400 is great on power, but supension is weak, even when set on 7 (the highest setting). We need a VERY HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION FOR THE BURGMAN 400!" << "Get rid of the 400 ... Problem solved"
BingoBoingo: Further Redditard String Production Sourcery: https://archive.is/Brm9v "Suzuki I am Fat"
erlehmann: i see.
mircea_popescu: i wonder why that'd be.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666124 << i've thoroughly lost track of these nonsenses by nao ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose a lifetime of save scumming creates strange mental habits in the pikachus.
mircea_popescu: the funny part being they actually believe their inane shit. "oh, if i type $string then it'll be parsed by all-comers as such! oh and i don't have to parse any strings myself!"
mircea_popescu: other than the whole "nude statements from $nobody produce effects", there's also the "i'll just ignore anything that doesn't fit"