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asciilifeform: phf: caliper incidentally is not chinese, comes with cert from jp ministry of standards
asciilifeform: supposing phf is speaking of mine
asciilifeform: phf: it's where i got'em
asciilifeform: phf: 'test skillz' inevitably happens on the job, in live fire.
asciilifeform: phf: in my experience the exams are never 'skill test' and always purely binary weedout against http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580234 people ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: classy is when entire contact is over email.
ben_vulpes: phf: i'd rather see someone use the editor they already have set up to attack problems in the domain for which they're under consideration for hiring
asciilifeform: phf: to quote one such 'speshul trainflake' i encountered once, 'you should be making me an offer, and not asking me to do tricks' ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf ikr ? but for my peace of mind, it's about as special as apricot's a special fruit, right ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:47 phf: pete_dushenski: sure, but my comment stands. when you read travel diaries in general they all have the same format, it's just this particular one reads like "in my country of Kazakhstan we shoot dog, i couldn't find any places to shoot dogs in so called civilized england"
pete_dushenski: phf: to be sure
pete_dushenski: phf: the authors aren't highly cultured and esteemed envoys from foreign lands, they're just... regular blokes.
mircea_popescu: phf myeah.
mircea_popescu: phf this is very true yes.
mircea_popescu: phf you did ; nevertheless - in the case of those runaways who were discovered in the 60s after however many centuries of absence, what figured greatly was that a) the tsar is good and b) that woe on random anon merchant for refusing to donate a quarter ton of potatoes to the cause.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 00:55 phf: not sure how reversion follows though. it's easy to run away into the forest, because it's completely meaningless. but running away into tradition is equivalent to death (per older thread). "destruction of known universe"
mircea_popescu: phf there's a who and a what. traditional societies put the what in an equivalency ring and discern the who ; modernist societies put the who in an equivalency ring and discern the what.
mircea_popescu: phf asciilifeform as per your understanding of folk logic, could Кощей have kept the needle anywhere ?
mircea_popescu: phf i suspect the entire business model is "get archive.is for pay because you don't google too well".
mircea_popescu: phf i wouldn't worry about it.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 22:11 phf: ben_vulpes: i don't know how to solve that problem, but "i know, sexp will help us!" is not. you basically need to redesign a bunch of things about reader, have a custom save format (that will look closer to (DEFUN FOO () (IF BAR QUX (PROGN ...)))). sexp nature will help you ~a bit~, but like mp said it's closer to "let's save AST", because sexp don't preserve nearly enough required info
asciilifeform: phf: one problem is that all lisps running on x86 have 'heathen' state
mircea_popescu: phf nevertheless, it does say "AS WE KNOW IT". clearly it's a knowledge problem not a being problem neh.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 14:50 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578953 << just fyi, while you can diff an intermediate ~state~ of an image as a sexp, common lisp's input is a ~character stream~. builtin dispatch ~mostly~ operates on forms (like #p #. (concatenate 'string "foo" "bar")), but not always, like #\; comment reads till end of line.
mircea_popescu: phf's anti-depression app.
mircea_popescu: phf yes but i ignore those. the "be naked eating and watch yourself" thing is the clincher to my eyes, because WHEN the fuck does empire advise nudity ? never, not in "feel your boobs" public literature even
mircea_popescu: phf first they kicked out the us then the brits (historically colonial owner)
ben_vulpes: phf, jurov: thank you
asciilifeform: phf: i had earlier edition of iirc that thing (the one with the ants on the cover) at umd
trinque: ty phf
mircea_popescu: phf ironically punk (90s, romania) was uncharacteristically tolerant of faggotry. discreet, but present. "rockers" much less tolerant.
mircea_popescu: phf male children, you crack lightly nose bleeds / eyes leak.
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno wtf punk schene this is, but children were never allowed anywhere near, to my knowledge.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-06 16:31 asciilifeform: phf: the funny bit is: if fire safety laws were to be enforced in usa, most if not all of the suburban idiotboxes would be condemned and bulldozed
mircea_popescu: phf ubuntu has a bunch of "rtkit:*:15016:0:99999:7:::"
asciilifeform: phf: you can still enumerate usernames with /etc/passwd, which i assume is the point of shooting in the dark at it
asciilifeform: phf: the funny bit is: if fire safety laws were to be enforced in usa, most if not all of the suburban idiotboxes would be condemned and bulldozed ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf for the obvious reason, the horde of consumers want to do what other people have done. the idea is for terrorists to not be able to communicate with upstanding, law abiding citizens, not the other way around.
Framedragger: ah, sure phf, gotcha, cool stuff
asciilifeform: phf: same reason elliot r. 'abandoned traitorous women' though he had none..?
trinque: iirc phf has mentioned alexandria
mircea_popescu: phf check out how that breaks ^
asciilifeform: phf: i put in the sweat, actually learned to use geda, it is imho an acceptable design, and i found plenty of complicated items purportedly having been designed with it, but it is BROKEN, the autorouter blew open polygons
asciilifeform: phf: i tried 'kikad', geda, etc. NONE OF THESE AUTOROUT FOR MOTHERCFUCKSSSAKE
asciilifeform: phf: it is used for 100% of my designs.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-05 13:54 walter__: phf, what's special about 2005 ThinkPads?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-05 13:54 walter__: phf, what's special about 2005 ThinkPads?
walter__: phf, what's special about 2005 ThinkPads? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
jurov gives phf 🌭 🍺
mircea_popescu: i am persuaded phf is right : bot is sending raw bytes, log is displaying unicode points as escape codes.
mircea_popescu: phf http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/hurr.png
mircea_popescu: phf there seem to be 3 layers of manglizing. yours above i saw both as a square with numbers, so i suspect your irc client fucks it up ; mine above is fucked up differently (looks like byte-interpreted rather than unicode) and then the scarfer/www displayer prints them out correctly but a111 reads them eggog'd.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-04 17:03 phf: 🍆
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 21:01 asciilifeform: phf: in my cosmography, a 'rater' is a pubkey
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 20:46 asciilifeform: phf: if pubkey is preserved, and privkey of dead man -- well-destroyed, suddenly the 'donation of constantine' problem evaporates.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 20:31 phf: that was the conclusion of the thread last time we had this conversation, yes
scriba: Logged on 2016-12-03: [01:54:50] <phf> ACTION 0 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z 1 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z 2 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z 3 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z 4 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z 5 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z 6 a b c d e f g h i j k l m
asciilifeform: phf: test pattern?
mircea_popescu: sorry phf false alarm :)
mircea_popescu: o look phf, i can't link to the story of turbulent flow BECAUSE ITS NOT IN YOUR LOGS!11
asciilifeform: phf: the b00k sucked in ways that are difficult to even put into words.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 19:16 phf: according neil stephenson in such a situation only womens will survive
asciilifeform: phf: you would simply need to HAVE ASKED me 20 years ago for pubkey.
asciilifeform: phf: in my cosmography, a 'rater' is a pubkey ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: i think we may have more fundamental disagreement:
asciilifeform: phf: the thinking is that nobody should be able to create an asciilifeform-signed vpatch after he is dead. omfg, this is hard concept?!
asciilifeform: phf: talismans are problematic not only when they do not work, but especially when they ~do~. e.g., washing hands -- worx
trinque: phf: I understood, and it would make more sense then to have a way of querying phf for his notebook
asciilifeform: phf: if pubkey is preserved, and privkey of dead man -- well-destroyed, suddenly the 'donation of constantine' problem evaporates. ☟︎
trinque: why is my claim "this is page x of phf's notebook" good enough here, but my claim "phf paid me 1000 BTC" is not good enough ?
trinque: phf: how the fuck do I parse a statement like that ^
asciilifeform: phf: forget the number. there are only 3 numbers that matter, -1,0,1.
asciilifeform: when i sign phf's patch, i have 'posrated' the patch.
trinque: phf: we agree there.
trinque: phf: yeah I'm not taking responsibility for the next exploit in all this garbage tyvm
a111: Logged on 2016-03-29 17:58 asciilifeform: phf: seveneves was a misery
mircea_popescu: phf incidentally, to round the thing, let's compare the 90s compo with the 2010s hackathon. o, that's right, these lame kids come from schools with no grades! the concept of there being a winner, of choice and hierarchy is all but lost.
asciilifeform: phf: actually i had ~standard~ deluxepaint for msdos
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:02 mircea_popescu: Framedragger the reason there's a lot of credence in phf's perhaps harsh criticism is http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 18:06 phf: also made me rather mistrustful of a lot of "hacker culture" elements, like too much coffee, night hacking, after hour sprints, weekend hacking, all things that i've confirmed from experience to contributing to atrocious code
asciilifeform: phf: re 'medicinal alcohol', most famously possibly in usa -- n. tesla revoked his prediction of living to be 100 y.o. when prohibition passed
asciilifeform: phf: this is rather like medieval nuns who saw rubbing clit as only acceptable if done indirectly as part of a 'saintly ecstatic dream' etc
mircea_popescu: phf hey, the alcohol as medicine thing is a joke older than those hippies' mothers.
asciilifeform: phf has it.
asciilifeform: phf: i distinctly recall ~one~ case where he injects while thinking
asciilifeform: phf: stands to reason that if adrenergic dopes are addictive, likewise so would be ordinary adrenaline
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 17:46 phf: http://www.programmersstone.com are the original, and c2 discussion http://wiki.c2.com/?ProgrammersStone
asciilifeform: phf: lol, it was same d00d as the infamous 'mappers and packers' thing?!!
asciilifeform: phf: happen to have a preserved copy of any of these ?
asciilifeform: ^ from phf / adlai / mircea_popescu 's link earlier
a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 14:36 mircea_popescu: speaking of above article, can i get a commitment to never signing any V material which includes any non-ascii characters ? BingoBoingo diana_coman hanbot trinque mod6 danielpbarron mircea_popescu mike_c asciilifeform davout ben_vulpes phf jurov
asciilifeform: phf: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/heads.jpg : two example usb heads (battery for scale strictly)
asciilifeform: phf: nein, read the doc, the head comes off
asciilifeform: phf: crash how, at warmup, or randomly as it goes ?
asciilifeform: phf: lemme get this straight, ~all~ pthread proggies hosed on openbsd?!
asciilifeform: 'of note, previously static compilation on OpenBSD resulted in segmentation fault. this is due to libpthread not being fully linked into the final static binary...' << what did this dig lead to , phf ?
mod6: phf beat me. lol.
asciilifeform: phf's definitely does
asciilifeform: phf: in principle it ought to work on bsd etc. but will shit out a linux binary, unless you were to fiddle with it rather heavily. but i do not see why to do this.
trinque: phf: where's that patch at btw?