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mircea_popescu: evidently this is a matter of selected group, humanity only ever took thesteps it could take, so its whole stairwell will be bound by what a biosack shaped like human could overstep
mircea_popescu: now, from a strict probabilistic perspective, there's nothing evidently requiring ALL the god damned stairs to be one foot tall at the most. yet, they all are.
mircea_popescu: if you look at the history of the human thought, a certain sense of "stairwell" does become apparent -- they did x which suddenly made y feasible and guess what ? sooner or later (usually, later : see gunpowder steam engine and all the numerous examples we keep rehashing in logs) they'd y!
mircea_popescu: for instance : there is NO REASON why general relativity should be tractable with (minor) extensions on infinitesimal calculus. in other words : there is NO REASON the gap between newton and einstein be narrow enough to be closed by a guy like einstein ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is not a singular example, it is a pattern, and a pattern that VERY insistently repeats.
mircea_popescu: there is no, strictly speaking, reason that iron MUST be provided on the surface of a planet just like the earth. it ~could~, very well, have simply gone through a place poor in planetoids and ended up entirely iron free on the surface. but it did not. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cirrhosis is usually has acute and reversible alcoholic hepatits as a herald well in advance of cirrhosis, if not problem space still narrows
mircea_popescu: there's an imbecile's view of "intelligent design" being floated about (mostly by people who are looking for a strawman, and reconstructed by them for this purpose). here's the correct version : ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nah. cleverness in humans is simply equivalent of what drunks call "a moment of lucidity", ie, stopped being indescribably fucking stupid for one god damned moment. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i know of no better example of a candidate miracle.
mircea_popescu: when a complexity calculation returns a result in logs.
mircea_popescu: the major advantage of ever seeing a log in the big O is that well... log promises very good returns at end tail!
mircea_popescu: ie, if http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1753823 takes one week to compute, a full rsa sized item would take about a year. ☝︎
shinohai: aha praise be to the logs, and a South Park episode to boot!
asciilifeform: sumbody oughta set up a parallel usg out of crackheads in bmore
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 20:41 mircea_popescu: there's a great southpark episode explaining how this false dychotomy is intended to work in practice (i'm a bit couintry & im a bit rock and roll item)
mircea_popescu: shinohai retarded brits maneuvering themselves into trying to matter. when hatman visited queen, some local fuckwits organised a buncha streetwalkers to pretend like they represent "the gypsy community" and "independently want to be called romania from now on". because http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739911 wasn't invented by ustards, they just copied. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if /me ran the whole thing, item'd be used for all it's worth (less importantly, give promising kids a chance to learn what critical safety is ; more importantly, give promising kids chance to exclude themselves on grounds of can not keep a secret. "big hush" the secret thorium reactor would be lynchpin of the whole thing)
BingoBoingo: In other news, on January 5th or 8th tentatively penciling in an appointment with the data center to hammer out more details, pricing information, etc. By that point there should be a business to do contract signing even if banking continues to be a challenge.
asciilifeform: 'breeders' were a major thrust in pre-pantsuit usa, where abundant thorium
mircea_popescu: anyway, 10-20k rods a year. this is not a lot objectively, but it keeps the item going
mircea_popescu: there's a nuclear fuel factory and everything.
mircea_popescu: and nobody wants to look at why both a) romania became industrial power and b) romania was the only above-water state during crisis.
mircea_popescu: the thing with these is they self-support. WAY the fuck more expensive to have 1st nuke power plant than to add the 1001th to a 1000 fleet.
asciilifeform: troo: i have nfi what kw-hour would cost in e.g. a china that goes full-bore su-style fission buildout
mircea_popescu: this is a fashion.
mircea_popescu: female agriculture is a fine example of what cracked nut would be. try to make one out of rubber and "nlp", get what's coming to ye.
asciilifeform: they... do. simply takes a while.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a situation where it is -ev to chemicalize/engineer.
mircea_popescu: agricultural supremacy ~= john deere (THAT is a place "self-driving" has utility btw) + monsanto genetic "engineering":
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: well, many things depend on one's patience with die grinder. Slow sure, but most people may benefit from having a sort of meditative activity.
mircea_popescu: now THAT'd be a golden nut to crack. though i have ~0 hope of it ever working.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759406 << guaranteed no-go. it's rather like trying to sew a squirrel into a rat skin and expect it to live happily as rat. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's not a bit of fucking public works
mircea_popescu: so yes, the move to conscription is a matter of when, not of if.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758896 << i have this vague memory that both phf and trinque were originally introduced in this sense by ben_vulpes ; whereas you were introduced similarily by hanbot. by comparison the pantsuit "evidently correct & only method" of herdemocracy has produced a whole lot of indiancandies and other self-choice delusionists. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 06:12 mircea_popescu: in other rapetrucks, i watched die hard. the russians are germans back then ; the terrorists still terrorists. the "career woman" still very much homely gun moll, wink wink nudge nudge. the dumbass "technology" ie cameras on every wall more of a curio than anything, deemed eccentricly harmless (see also above discussion of parasitosis).
BingoBoingo: https://www.macstadium.com/colo/#dcselect << Was a finalist I considered $35/month for small machine
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i am looking to set up a handful of trb nodez 1) small, 'disposable' boxen 2) for fiatolade 3) with decent , i.e. at least 100mb symmetric ea. 4) NOT all in same cage
BingoBoingo: So last night I returned from una cita con una chica to discover a concert on the roof of the hostel was winding down. While I rehydrated drinking copious agua buena other guests at the hostel consulted me for answers to "What's good in Montevideo"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, the fresh blood you (and trinque ) pumped in trb ecosystem made a lot of secondary nodes gain lots of speed too. << Aha, since the aggressing started and some trb nodes changed ver string my nodes have had an easier time staying at the tip
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Perhaps you fill a 1U tray with them and pack it into your checked luggage? If you worry about their conenctivity it is very possible to negotiate them their own dedicated or asymmetrical line.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> !~later tell BingoBoingo where was that hoster that'll host peculiarly small boxes , that you were using back in the day ? i have a buncha http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754247 that fit exactly those dimensions << I looked at "Mac Stadium" but ended up going with Joe's Datacenter before the payment portion of Joe's website went full NameCheap retard. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other rapetrucks, i watched die hard. the russians are germans back then ; the terrorists still terrorists. the "career woman" still very much homely gun moll, wink wink nudge nudge. the dumbass "technology" ie cameras on every wall more of a curio than anything, deemed eccentricly harmless (see also above discussion of parasitosis). ☟︎
shinohai: http://archive.is/VuSSm <<< Autists literally made this happen. Their logo is a fidget spinner, ffs
shinohai: ah mircea_popescu lookup has been there a while, but i think i forgot to have pete_dushenski push it to his bots page updates. ☟︎
asciilifeform: it is if you have a stalin, i.e. a firm power vertical.
asciilifeform: ww2 wasn't exactly a voluntary transaction
asciilifeform: the inheriting of the master's house by a gaggle of idjits , former bootlicks, was a palpable thing, and with palpable consequences incl. the cn split.
mircea_popescu: i am convinced that all these useless foreigners had not an inkling of an idea that they're trading their ancestral land for the sack of shiny baubles, simply no conception whatsoever. "what, there's something wrong with codebase increase ?" they might ask, with all the endearing pathetism of well meaning senility, in the same tone as they might ask "where am i ? could you take me home ?", lost at a crowded crossroads.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759237 << have you ever wondered, like prepubescent mp wondered, why all these various animals on nature show never fucking kill the parasytes like you'd squish a flea ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: absent that... you're typing on a bluepad itooth regardless.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 17:48 phf: it's hard to say how much knuth changed over years, without knowing the man, and i don't think "for which knuth is famous" is any kind of measure. he's certainly gotten old, but i think he might also be constituionally incapable of participating in a consensus.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759236 << the problem is rather the ability to tell people [as a fine example, one's own sons] that they have failed miserably, and here's the small stiletto that'll wash somewhat of the miserable stain they placed on your name. ☝︎
phf: you can use ipad with a bluetooth keyboard!!1
a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 17:39 phf: but to answer the question, i think i don't particularly mind the subtrate. man does computations, i wouldn't be too concerned if he were to switch to ipad even, because he'd still be hand writing algorithms with a certain detachment to the concerns of extras
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759229 << jesus christ clucking in algebra on that clunker of a kbd... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: can offer it in the logotron as a [?] item, ie message is "blablabla http://someu" and next line goes "rl.com/hurddurr" and your log shows the line as "blablabla http://someu [ http://someurl.com/hurddurr ?]" or perhaps in shorter format, "blablabla http://someu [<a href=http://someurl.com/hurddurr>?</a>]"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759198 << look at cases where a message that overflows the buffer has the last word leading by http of any line and the first word of the next line include any / ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform turns out you have a lot of fans.
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo where was that hoster that'll host peculiarly small boxes , that you were using back in the day ? i have a buncha http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754247 that fit exactly those dimensions ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the fresh blood you (and trinque ) pumped in trb ecosystem made a lot of secondary nodes gain lots of speed too.
lobbes: <asciilifeform> [19:42:10] in other vintage heathen lulz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_bitcoin apparently. << "Before disappearing from any involvement in bitcoin, Nakamoto in a sense handed over the reins to developer Gavin Andresen" lol, didjaknow?
phf: relatedly, i managed to get latest version (jan 2014) version to produce a dvi out of tex.tex from first principles. i used someone else's port to gnu pascal
phf: knuth managed to do a lot to keep tex what it is, given that he's essentially a pacifist academic. there aren't many other examples (common lisp, ada) where preservation has been taken to this extreme.
asciilifeform: BigTexasBingo: the art of 'drowning like a gentleman', i.e. to behave honourably and with grace in the face of certain defeat, death, obscurity -- is largely lost in modern folx
phf: asciilifeform: he did though, by making it very explicit that there can't be a successor.
asciilifeform: at the very least could've emphasized the absence of a successor.
phf: well, really, the problem has been discussed here many times, that you can't tmsr without wot. "successor" is just a special case of that, which, again, lacking mechanisms, is likewise lacking
phf: we'll he's a millenarian, he's primarily documenting the fundamental findings of computer science
asciilifeform: which was a going concern in '70s-'80s, while today it is a '70-'80s memory, strictly
phf: it's hard to say how much knuth changed over years, without knowing the man, and i don't think "for which knuth is famous" is any kind of measure. he's certainly gotten old, but i think he might also be constituionally incapable of participating in a consensus. ☟︎
phf: but to answer the question, i think i don't particularly mind the subtrate. man does computations, i wouldn't be too concerned if he were to switch to ipad even, because he'd still be hand writing algorithms with a certain detachment to the concerns of extras ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2015-04-09 21:21 ascii_field: anyway, i happen to know more than a reasonable man ought to, about wolframism
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 22:48 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the sea is rich ; but the fisherman's stuck playing a loser game.
asciilifeform: i get it, in the 'organic' system that is a live p2p net, proper controlled experiments are quite impossible. this however does NOT mean that one oughta freely give in to urge to climb back up the tree, becoming a monkey again, and think in voodoo criteria. even if the circumstances heavily encourage this , by failing to reward rational thought ( see mircea_popescu's thread with the italian fishermen !! , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-
asciilifeform: if, alternatively, it meant 'my block height hasn't moved for a week', again should be specific, SAY that, and post yer log
asciilifeform: if what is meant is 'i looked on shitchain.info and saw a higher number than from my getinfo' should SAY that.
asciilifeform: as for nodes at the 'tip', the path of chinesium through layers of prb is a lottery, and i suspect that attempting to measure the effect of a trb patch on said behaviour is doomed to astrologize over noise
BingoBoingo: The accountant is giving me the expectation the the process of transforming my self into a business will compelete this week allowing bank access to follow soon after.
BingoBoingo: Ah, such a gloriously obvious pattern emerges. Waterfalls when the banks are closed. Turns out the speed of the crashing is limited to a somewhat sane pace by the difficulty of getting rid of non-ecu fiat takens
mircea_popescu taking off on a little trip, cya all manana.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other humanities : a. j. ayer was once in the livingroom of one fernando sanchez on west 57th st, hanging out with a buncha young hussies/models when one girl came arunnin' complaining that her friend was being assaulted in the bedroom. ayer went in, where he found mike tyson atop an obscure south london model. when the (at the time 70yo) oxford professor asked him to quit it, mike tyson wanted to know if he knows wh ☟︎
ben_vulpes: gonna have to revert and watch, or provision a mess of boxen
ben_vulpes: stormy, with a chance of packeting
mircea_popescu: yes ; was just a place to put it really.
mircea_popescu: trinque arbitrary-content manifests will become a mess of random.
trinque: can have a tool to edit it sure, but then that's the file that's being edited no matter what else is edited, and there's a coherent history based primarily upon a list denoting what's considered a thing at time of patch
mircea_popescu: trinque because it'll get a mess ; ben_vulpes it's just a counter. increments 1 from prev line. shall i do a sample pastebin ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu envisaged the genesis.manifest as wholly mechanical item, just a patch-per-line count of patches, no space to adlib.
trinque probably at a point to digest also
trinque: hm. the manifest also gives you a place to name blobs.
ben_vulpes: putting the codebasehash in headers doesn't work then, as there is no 'file that will always be touched' that is a part of v to participate in the toposort
a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 02:03 asciilifeform: or, on other end of the possible, a vtron that somehow understands that a call of foo necessarily depends on the patch that birthed foo... and requires disambiguation only if >1 foo exists in the tree
a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 01:58 asciilifeform: i'd like to encourage trinque to put some of his 'crackpot' algos 'to paper', as articles. the hypertext thing was interesting imho, for instance, and so was earlier trinque pill for 'mining is a bug', and possibly other occasions. dun be afraid to write down conjectures, trinque , gauss did
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758974 << very much so ; and especially on a blog. there's utterly nothing wrong with being wrong, and discover it over time, especially if gracious about it. not like you sign the damned things, nor like the distinction isn't very fucking clear a a matter of public policy. ☝︎
trinque: and yet, I can see the entire thing from the other perspective still, that cpp is broken, trb itself not a single concept but a mud, etc
mircea_popescu: how about a convention whereby all new genesises must contain a manifest.genesis file, which file will be constantly patched on each patchj, no exceptions, by adding a line which reads : "This is patch #x and the codebase hash is blabla". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque kitten trying to get into the backseat so i can play with her tits ever so briefly kissed my new suit pant's leg, now i have a typically indicative white spot on it. tbh i knida like the look of it.
trinque is only recently not a walking solution of wine and nog