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spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816325 <-- it's not needed, at least not in the case of vtools. it may have been worth it if it had reduced binary size, but from my experiment it makes no difference. gcc seems to remove the definitions of static-inlined functions (after inlining them), but I don't really know if it does that in general. ☝︎
Mocky: I don't think my pending invention of inverted waffle iron plates is going to make me rich
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816065 << normally i'd have said "don't use fucking screencaps wtf is wrong with you", but in this case i doubt a proper paste could have risen to the required heights of lul. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean, "i can't read headings, help me out" ; i mean : for the present headings, are these all the vulns known ? by ~whom~ (ie, what source used) ?)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:15 mod6: There is no contract here. I don't want to ask anyone about their ratings. Perhaps I shouldn't have asked what I asked there above.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816001 << i don't see how it could have been avoided. sooner or later it was coming up, so why not sooner. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815978 << honestly i don't fucking know. it's all uncharted territory / shit we came up with. ☝︎
douchebag: would anyone mind chatting with me via PM so I don't shit up the logs asking questions about how to get everything on this gentoo box sorted? I have minimal expereince working with gentoo so I have quite a few questions
danielpbarron: i don't know exacts, but you were talking back to me over in lrh around the same time you were polluting snr in here, and my +1 was preventing others from !!downing you
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:16 mod6: Because I don't want us to ever ask someone about things such as this; their rating of someone.
trinque: mod6: I don't mean there's an actual contract, just referencing the notion of "cure period"
mod6: Because I don't want us to ever ask someone about things such as this; their rating of someone. ☟︎
mod6: There is no contract here. I don't want to ask anyone about their ratings. Perhaps I shouldn't have asked what I asked there above. ☟︎
douchebag: I already have a webserver running on my pizarro box. I just don't know how I'm supposed to unpack mpwp
trinque: I really don't like the idea of negotiating with anyone on what my ratings shall be
esthlos: now I'm going to go through the logs and see if I've missed anything else. let me know what you've done on http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815850 so we don't double spend on time. and to sum it up, yeah, my bad on the communication ☝︎
esthlos: trinque: my current plan has been this: I digest the logs in batches every few days, but search for my nick at least once a day. since my nick wasn't referred to in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815256 , I missed it. my approach may be inadequate, since trilema is the first time I've used irc and I don't really know what I'm doing. but it's a reality of my schedule that sometimes I won't be able to respond for two days or so ☝︎
trinque: I don't have a defined expiration time for them. If bot operators are interested in ^ maybe we'll go ahead and say it's 3 months, or whatever's sensible.
spyked: hm. so trinque, OTPs don't have any sort of expiration? the scenario I'm thinking of is that eventually my (for example) home ISP would do some stupid thing that would lead to the TCP connection going down. but that could happen in a week, a month or six from now, so I'd want that OTP to be valid whenever that happens.
douchebag: I just don't think social engineering would be the right word to use for remote command execution
lobbes: asciilifeform: I don't dislike. I was operating under the mode of "reduce log clutter (via not triggering $quotebot) if quote being referenced is ~10 lines away"
Mocky: i don't remenmber, some bigish security consultancy, do a lot of conference talks, anyway almost interviews with those lying bastards, after spending a month doing their 'hack the firmware' challenge and 'find all the security holes in this web site' challenge
Mocky: i thought he was a good speaker at the time, i guess his shtick was explaining (his understanding of) the scriptural hermeneutics to people who don't care about such things but want to feel as if they do
Mocky: i don't remember that last time anyone recommended reading to me unsolicited, and now my post-it note reading list system is struggling to keep up. I'm going to need something better
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't specifically know, in his case. but typically they get 'promoted out' of it when reading that level.
mircea_popescu: in this sense i suppose djb is a boneh, though i don't like how he runs his harem ; wheras yuk dude is a boeck.
Mocky: I have not read many historical texts. i think i've become too accustomed to being around people who don't read at all. i've certainly not spent time to date thinking explicitly about approaches to text comprehension
mircea_popescu: taq/tpq : limit up to / from which something is measured ; there's also terminus a quo / terminus ad quem, but i don't like them because confusing to non-latin speakers.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 15:19 BingoBoingo: Mocky: I don't remember a settled term for spear chuckers. Kalash's are sufficiently in circulation that literal spear chucking isn't much of a thing anymore. We do rip on societies here that remain pre-spearchucking in development like the Italians though.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 03:49 Mocky: reading the logs - I'm trying to understand how 'kalash' is being used here. I don't see it in http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary/ maybe it's a common thing I just haven't heard of. The use seems consistent with https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kalash
BingoBoingo: Mocky: I don't remember a settled term for spear chuckers. Kalash's are sufficiently in circulation that literal spear chucking isn't much of a thing anymore. We do rip on societies here that remain pre-spearchucking in development like the Italians though. ☟︎
Mocky: reading the logs - I'm trying to understand how 'kalash' is being used here. I don't see it in http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary/ maybe it's a common thing I just haven't heard of. The use seems consistent with https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kalash ☟︎
fettiffany: Could you write me correctly? I don't understand that jargon
fettiffany: oh.. i see.. but i don't have nothing to do with bitcoins so.. hahaha
fettiffany: so, i don't see the need to register
mod6: And I don't think it's whatever USD. Per the conversation it's $5000 USD worth of BTC right?
asciilifeform: e.g. 'We don't need an­other slow, se­cure hash func­tion' , 'no com­pelling ad­van­tage ', 'I don't feel that solv­ing length-ex­ten­sion is a suf­fi­ciently press­ing con­cern that we should all in­vest in SHA-3 now, rather than a hash func­tion that hope­fully comes with more ad­van­tages' , etc
trinque: I don't think it's good form to litter the COMMON-LISP-USER package with this.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall exactly how it was done ; but all trilema was google indexed.
mircea_popescu: ie, don't discover that a guy who's there at your pleasure is sitting on arms all day long contemplating roaches climb the walls because ~i point it out~, don't be surprised by the attentand morale issues.
ben_vulpes: gotta figure a) whether the apartment thing is crazy for some reason i don't understand b) structure for next years incentive
mod6: That I can understand. But I don't want to give you 7500 to go and spend on hookers and blow.
mod6: I don't follow.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i also have open problems that you could probably help with. for instance, i am in search of a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814828 , and of 32 ( or at worst , 2 x 16 ) port GB/s ~bare pcb~ ethernet switches that don't come with 'minumal order 1000' chinesium insult << Will get to searching. Thoughts on a good way to perform epoxy potting on my personal FUCKGOAT that would be actually transparent ☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i also have open problems that you could probably help with. for instance, i am in search of a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814828 , and of 32 ( or at worst , 2 x 16 ) port GB/s ~bare pcb~ ethernet switches that don't come with 'minumal order 1000' chinesium insult ☝︎
ben_vulpes: hostingdiscussion.com at least has a user-enumerable db, but i don't know if an automated approach would get pizarro blacklisted, or even if we care, right? can make another account and pick up where left off.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, obviously people working at something should pick the rewards of their work. what i don't get is why are you formulating this split in absolute rather than relative terms ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-17 14:40 mircea_popescu: what is behind comments like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814037, "I moved more recently than this fellow and I'll get my id after he does" ? "I don't, properly speaking, think bb is a person, at least not in the same sense / to the same degree I am" ?
mircea_popescu: i don't know ; and i'd like to know ; but i'd rather not guess, which is the entire point of even having a wot in the first place, take the guessing out of society, bring reason back among people.
mircea_popescu: what is behind comments like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814037, "I moved more recently than this fellow and I'll get my id after he does" ? "I don't, properly speaking, think bb is a person, at least not in the same sense / to the same degree I am" ? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: and yeah, it's school. we don't have those where i come from, so i have a lot of work to do.
ben_vulpes: i don't come here to not be disliked, i come and work because it's challenging, the people here make me think and work hard and don't soft-pedal critiques, and because there's no other ideological island out there that wouldn't be exile after the past four years.
mod6: I think ben_vulpes is doing a very good job with all that he has coming at him, BingoBoingo and asciilifeform too. I don't want to replace anyone. Time is a luxury that we don't have. However, for a moment, if we step back and look at what we've accomplished so far, I think it's something to be proud of.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, let me tell you some things. a while ago you got these doods into a miserable situation they don't know how to extract themselves from, by ending up with 10x the warrants bingoboingo got. last i checked the dood actually moved down there.
ben_vulpes: i don't have a clear picture of how pricing these would work either. part of my concern with bonds is that for a largely fiat denominated operation, interest on a btc loan can murder you if the fiat/btc rate goes up significantly, and fiat incomes stay the same.
jurov: transferwise was better than paypal as they don't hold funds, they send each wire directly to my bank. if i used paypal, they have no problem to seize whole account.
jurov: i don't care.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 16:25 phf: aight, i'm going to be out of commission until mid may. i have comments for eulora that i need to type up (i got to sit down with a printout out over this weekend), i'm not sure about the amount of work required for the grapher until i have time to sit down and read v.pl (i sort of have an idea of how to implement it as part of vtools, but i'm not sure if the slicing is adequate), until i do i don't have a clear idea of how long it's going to take. i m
asciilifeform: ( in case it isn't clear, asciilifeform views s.nsa as in effect a scientific collaboration / partizan front , with mircea_popescu , as asciilifeform does not expect to see any coin from it, i would like to be proven wrong about this, but i don't see selling >50 btc's profit worth of anything, esp not if the climb carries on )
mircea_popescu: and one step down, nsa doesn't even have to permit equity buys, can insist on being paid cash. i was permitting it because i thought it's desirable, but if you don't like it evidently won't happen.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's any intention of that. i certainly would vote against the measure.
asciilifeform: no particular problem, aside from the stark contrast between the 100% repeatability and hygiene of , e.g., FG, and the possibly nsa-laden ( i don't design arm crystal, or the pcb, or the switches, etc ) server
ben_vulpes: if any of the mpwpists in teh republic can lend a hand, i could really use it in getting urls that don't have index.php in them
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#355976 << if you're burning usd that shoulda been billed to the corp, pls to do so. otherwise, you're burning the usd to...get btc? i don't really understand the objection.
mircea_popescu: and if it does that, you got an item. remember the first actually deeded item, smickles' report re i don't recall which scamfest ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don'\t mean uy AT ALL.
mircea_popescu: mod6, i don't even have a problem with the mb, per se, i mean holy hell there's trilema pages consisting of tables or novels or w/e the fuck. but that mb is <1% markup for the love of christ, not 99%.
mod6: I don't have many "friends" irl or anything, but once we have a landing page, will do what I can on my meat-side.
mod6: Yah, and possibly fg. I know there is a sentiment that orcs are not interested in fg -- however, there are people I've talked to who are pretty interested in that. Don't have coins to buy one, however, still, interest is there.
mircea_popescu: i don't know of any method besides filter feeding. and do you know what's the primary ingredient for filter feeding ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-12 07:57 mircea_popescu: reminds me of this chick on fetlife, "So you don't want to have a smart discuss, you're here for what ? What do you research here ? Because I'm agree with your description."
mircea_popescu: but you will have hell on wheel in your hands trying to get more money as a palliative solution to "i don't feel like building sales today". ☟︎
mod6: I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise.
mod6: I don't care if it's a flat file either.
mod6: We are discussing/thinking about how to recapitalize, get more rockchips, customers. So this is on going. I don't think anyone is wasting anytime by any streach of imagination.[ ☟︎
mod6: I don't think it is a 'blocker', but Mr. Vulpes will have to respond to that.
ben_vulpes: i don't think it useless nothing as it will snip significant time off report generation. the pressure from the board is to forge forward with the rockchips, but if there's change to be eked from the shared hosting i should capture that as well, so thanks for the prodding.
mircea_popescu: FreeMASON, i don't get pms, fyi.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, i can't see why not. you just shouldn't have expected to get all that much from it, which i don't gather you had expected. so no harm no foul.
mircea_popescu: it always sums, neh ? but i don't think anyone living today can imagine what, specifically, "jalopy" means. considering the ~author~ couldn't : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-31#1778955 ☝︎
ben_vulpes: girthy spittoon, i still don't understand how the overlays of trinque's musl overlay work properly; not even really which knobs to pull
mircea_popescu: reminds me of this chick on fetlife, "So you don't want to have a smart discuss, you're here for what ? What do you research here ? Because I'm agree with your description." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: hey, i don't mind. but understand that avoiding bad habits is a lifelong uncompletable task, there's no magic pill that'll keep you safe from such. certainly contemplation from outside isn't much of one.
danielpbarron: i should say, the linked item is only comments.php ; if you can find the other file i'll send that one too, i don't recall which one it was
mircea_popescu: i don't think there was ever a system "dedicated to man" that managed to get man to think, though. man will not think, would rather take rape than math questions.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, indeed. i tell you, i don't see it. the arguments from 2016 prevail, making the ssh-style correct imo.
ben_vulpes: there is, or was i don't really care to look, something named like that in portland too: "The Open Sourcery"
trinque: esthlos: I don't think anyone demands you use precisely that name, if doing so results in more needless complexity than just picking another.
BingoBoingo: As as humid as it is here, I don't want mushrooms growing inside me. It's a river valley so everyone is assumed to be carrying histoplasmosis
ben_vulpes: there'll be ~no way around asking each user for a gpg key i don't think
mircea_popescu: go register a key so i don't have to keep upping you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don't permit socialist redefinitions of words universally, this is not much discovery.
ben_vulpes: shows up as speshulchar ^L in emacs; i've seen this before in other lispwads written by the github crew and don't really know what to make of it. convention of the ancients? perhaps asciilifeform or phf or someone else who's literate and knows history could enlighten me.
ben_vulpes: actually invalid signature in .seals should stop the world, but i don't recall offhand if that's differentiable from the no key for signature case
mod6: i don't eat as much beef as i used to i guess. more pork & chicken these days
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever paid anything but cash or personal notes. wtf "lenders".
mircea_popescu: contrary to all the pretense, there's really 0 difference. "tech journalist" / "academic" / "entrepreneur" / whatever the fuck. i don't distinguish between the doubtless present and in-character very visible "sorts" and "kinds" of african garbage pickers trying to turn the refuse of a great civilisation that doesan't include them into some root paste or w/e they eat. you know for a fact they are so, because the various classe
mircea_popescu: but sure, i don't disagree, the more it finds the better.
BingoBoingo: Nah, but I also don't want to hand over cash if it can be avoid it. And the Urgency is substantially less than yesterday.
mircea_popescu: (anyway, i'm mostly joking. THEY don't know how to speak their previous colonizer's language, and so they say "to buy from locals" when they mean "the buying of locals". w/e)