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mircea_popescu: dunno how many people keep that around though. i don't think it'd be a crime or anything to make a command-line keccak branch off of it, so people can just press to that if they want.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855025 << actually this is exactly >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854931 ; i saw it there then, i checked it off in my head and did not return, that or any other wednesday, to check. turns out, it got dropped. don't do that! ☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 15:57 phf: i think v.pl is a venerable tool, it's battle tested, it has established interface, it's been worked on for three years now. i don't see any reason to throw it out.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855023 << moreover, i can't imagine who the fuck would make this call ~for others~. you don't like having it, by all means, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-26#1854751 ; but i am not going to say "do not use v.pl". ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: i don't see why they can't do this -- independently.

mircea_popescu: i don't really want the traffic to go much over the kb/s range

mircea_popescu: and diana_coman or hanbot or who will you pick have little problem in turning over next-day keccak patches on trees, as recently put on display. i don't think they're either smarter or blesseder than you, they just have the toolset ready.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 15:50 phf: asciilifeform: you're just spreading fud, i don't know where to start unpacking this conversation

a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 15:36 phf: asciilifeform: but if you want a full "v replacement and i don't want to think about none of that" then just use esthlos's item. i believe he has a working keccak already

asciilifeform: phf: i don't dispute that it is obvious, but thought it had been done, this was my mistake.

phf: i think v.pl is a venerable tool, it's battle tested, it has established interface, it's been worked on for three years now. i don't see any reason to throw it out. ☟︎

phf: asciilifeform: you're just spreading fud, i don't know where to start unpacking this conversation ☟︎

phf: asciilifeform: but if you want a full "v replacement and i don't want to think about none of that" then just use esthlos's item. i believe he has a working keccak already ☟︎

mod6: lol, I don't know how to make it do stuff either, but I guess that's a different problem :]

mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, i dunno, it's been a while. i don't have time to tinker with it at the moment, gearing up for month end here.

mod6: anyway, it's been a while, so I don't know for sure, but if memory serves, I believe his vtree is incompatible with my vtron, on the whole.

mircea_popescu: amusingly, i am working on piece re the necessary benefits of uniting with africa. guy in 1850s intuited quite exacrtly this, "well... animals don't need most of what interests you for anything"

mircea_popescu: i... don't.

BingoBoingo: But yes this is a civil law system here, and I don't see why anyone who went to a facultad de derecho ought to have any chance if I do case prep.

mircea_popescu: i don't expect it's expensive, no. besides, very likely will be arbitrated rather than adjudicated

diana_coman: to recap so I don't miss anything: no counter sent in header for packets; packets will have sizes between 6 (header length so minimum) and 2048; sender will have a 1second delay between each new package sent

diana_coman: (it can be done though, if one really wants it, basically an Ada task to be repeated hourly, but I don't see the benefit to that)

mircea_popescu: yeah, i don't think we're trying to study bursts or saturation here. rather a study of the route under best conditions so to speak.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 15:37 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854224 << i don't think it is.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 15:58 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854282 << i don't get it, 50 packets / hour is less than 1 per minute. this can't saturate anything. are you doing the burst in the sense of just dumping all the packets on the interface in 2 s and waiting the 3598 other s idle ?

mircea_popescu: of martian poop. i don't even live on mars.

mircea_popescu: im not fucking writing that. i don't like tcp enough.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854282 << i don't get it, 50 packets / hour is less than 1 per minute. this can't saturate anything. are you doing the burst in the sense of just dumping all the packets on the interface in 2 s and waiting the 3598 other s idle ? ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854224 << i don't think it is. ☝︎☟︎

diana_coman: mod6, as far as I can tell they got lost in transit but I don't know *how close* to the machine itself (this UK machine is behind a router, I've set up port forwarding for it); basically atm the UK->UY vs UY->UK is pretty much client->server vs server-> client communication

mircea_popescu: i... don't do that.

verisimilitude: If I don't get it before I run out of time again, I'll just do it later.

verisimilitude: Oh; I don't have PGP on the Yeeloong; oh well.

mircea_popescu: i don't want losing rk, wut.

verisimilitude: That's just to make certain I don't start out confused.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-24 13:50 diana_coman: hm, a first tiny pilot test of the UDP send/receive looks quite dire (4 in 20 made it, when sent in batches of 4, random lengths); however, I don't know if it's not just overflowing the out buffer to start with (since default value in /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_default is 212992 so real would be half that iirc)

mircea_popescu: and the punishment for "what if i don't" is... "they will".

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> !Q later tell BingoBoingo crate seems to be in customs limbo still << I don't expect the locals did anything at all Saturday/Sunday. No phone calls have been recieved yet. We still have more waiting time before panic time.

diana_coman: hm, a first tiny pilot test of the UDP send/receive looks quite dire (4 in 20 made it, when sent in batches of 4, random lengths); however, I don't know if it's not just overflowing the out buffer to start with (since default value in /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_default is 212992 so real would be half that iirc) ☟︎

trinque: what I don't have a model for yet is the perma-stuck state

Mocky: i guess you don't need to stack them

Mocky: don't get me wrong, i loved mine back in the day

a111: Logged on 2018-09-23 20:53 mircea_popescu: also meanwhile in http://trilema.com/2009/il-stiti-pe-merkley/ : dood's still active (mostly, doing music now). and also @merkley "If you don't hate who I hate then you are hateful and I hate you." - Twitter 2018

mircea_popescu: also meanwhile in http://trilema.com/2009/il-stiti-pe-merkley/ : dood's still active (mostly, doing music now). and also @merkley "If you don't hate who I hate then you are hateful and I hate you." - Twitter 2018 ☟︎

mircea_popescu: more disinterested girls you never saw, even at starbucks ; eventually the pit boss had to send a couple of the perfunctory shitheads to sit at our table, whom i waved off to their great excitement (how wonderful! now we can just say we checked the tickbox and don't have to do anything! there's nothing anyone can do, we tried!).

a111: Logged on 2018-09-23 16:02 mircea_popescu: and i don't think there is a SINGLE cop anywhere in the us who isn't either a) completely braindamaged, "i pray every day i manage to get through the day without fucking up massively, like, losing my gun in some bushes because i shat myself hearing gunfire" a la j c reilly in magnolia)

mircea_popescu: so no, i don't expect she'd easily manage a moscow-cairo resettlement on her own steam.

mircea_popescu: the former is how erudition without girlfriends is managed by the sort of people who "i spent 30 years in china still don't have local whores ready to be turned out for love".

mircea_popescu: and i don't think there is a SINGLE cop anywhere in the us who isn't either a) completely braindamaged, "i pray every day i manage to get through the day without fucking up massively, like, losing my gun in some bushes because i shat myself hearing gunfire" a la j c reilly in magnolia) ☟︎

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-21#1852644 << lots of christians around. I don't suppose there'll be legal whoring in Mockystan either. ☝︎

phf: asciilifeform: i'm not sure but i don't think the problem is environment variables. the failing command has an -isystem flag that points to correct musl header tree, and some of the files are being picked up from there, but not all (e.g. errno.h is picked from musl, but sys/types.h from global)

phf: hmm, i have the path set, but i don't have either of the ADA_* vars

phf: one of the move ladies runs a "raw foods" shop in west philadelphia, she don't talk about it much though. i had an amusing conversation with one of her locals, who, unprompted, went on a long rant about how bitcoin is a weapon against babylon, and how fbi is going to start killing bitcoin people, etc.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-20#1852394 << those were pretty good. like the white hat that never gets stained (i have some white hats, they don't work like wayne's) and the cowboy horse that never gets a sprained ankle. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform where is the "slipped" ? "i went into berserker mode without my axe", this is not slipping. if you don't take a gun, you are aware you're not into that mode, yes ?

mats: asciilifeform: did some digging, didn't come up with anything. doesn't help that i don't have a westlaw subscription anymore

mircea_popescu: but whatever, moron opted to make it a pdf, i don't care.

mircea_popescu: the sea eats rubber. i hear that's why they don't have the toyota submerged cities yet.

phf: mircea_popescu: i have a set of tools like that on top of vpatch/vdiff, but they are entirely expressable as a 5-10 line shell scripts, and their variety is multitude "convert this sha set to keccak set" "see if these two sets press to same" "press all the intermediate states into separate folders" etc. etc. but i think what he's trying to get is a tool that will say "these keccaks are same as these shas so you don't have to reread"

mircea_popescu: i don't think she dares ask, partly because she spent most of her life with engineers and partly because check out how irrational the process became the moment she showed up. this not common, this, freebased cvasicriticism, in the annals.

mircea_popescu: this isn't going to become a monthly cycle, is it ? "i don't like this vtree" "do you have a patch ?" "no, i just don't like it" "well... come back with a patch"

diana_coman: once it's ready, I'll publish it anyway and I don't see any reason why one couldn't run it anywhere they want it, ofc

diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't get it: are you saying you need mircea_popescu to officially declare it something or the other or what?

BingoBoingo: <Mocky> got my flight booked. will be on layover at heathrow for 15hrs on oct 8th << I don't feel so bad about the 45 minutes I ended up with in Panama now

a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 18:09 ave1: I don't know about the different v-trees for this, I'll have to think about it

ave1: I don't know about the different v-trees for this, I'll have to think about it ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 15:54 mircea_popescu: ave1 i very much hope you don't think your own work is a waste for this reason.

mircea_popescu: ave1 i very much hope you don't think your own work is a waste for this reason. ☟︎

diana_coman: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-9-18#431566 -> I'm thinking of 2 there ; asciilifeform's lib also provides I think a good interface - I don't see any reason why one couldn't just change /swap the underlying .c file with ada or asm at a later date without having to change otherwise anything of whatever one builds on top of the lib (i.e. relying on the lib's interface)

mircea_popescu: (by soup i mean, don't send them in order of size, but in some random order each hour)

diana_coman: asciilifeform, the udp lib can request it in a certain format; the rest is layered on top, I don't really see why it needs string representation or eating a string; anyways, splitting hairs on this

mircea_popescu: this may even be feasible, i don't imagine the wotscore lookup is that expensive. i dun see anythinf wrong with it, if anyone's annoying easy enough to fix the score.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bans are currently free, i don't maintain the list.

mircea_popescu: i don't see the contagion angle. sexual fetishes are a matter of fashion, to some degree, but not properly speaking epidemic.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850725 << don't worry, i'm STILL working on it. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i don't mean "it is against group interest". i mean it from a very personal perspective, not using this is like not using fridges, or CAT scanners. YOU miss out. your own life is shittier than it need had been, on your deathbed you'll look at less of a life than it might've been. there's just no point to run the race eyes closed, none whatever.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850719 << she has a point you know ; i don't just mean ave1 though it's a fine example here. you folks have an excellent semaphore system, which works well and has been historically proven to work well (not to mention have all the interest in "feelings" of a guillotine). it is very stupid NOT to use it, to eschew use it, to miss out on using it. ☝︎

diana_coman: I don't know what an "ada system call" is, to answer that question; my aim is indeed to wrap them in one place so that everything else makes ada calls and doesn't care

diana_coman: while initially I considered using this thin layer, on a deeper look at it, I don't like it; here is the code of it: https://www2.adacore.com/gap-static/GNAT_Book/html/rts/g-socthi__ads.htm and https://www2.adacore.com/gap-static/GNAT_Book/html/rts/g-socthi__adb.htm

Mocky: i don't think what would have ever occurred to me BingoBoingo

mircea_popescu: iirc we even had a discussion re standardizing a byte order ; though from the fact that i don't recall the results i take it i got shown broken cats. ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dungetit, what's lower than 'it's a miner^H^H^Hcloud^H^Hpetroladditive^H^Hdentists-don't-want-you-to-know' ?

mircea_popescu: this isn't a critical application yet. experimenta, meaning -- if you want to use this to test 'em or w/e i don't mind.

mircea_popescu: oh i see. then why the fuck are they poor, i don't fucking get it.

mircea_popescu: seems redundant and counter-intuitive, but mayhaps i don't understand the wisdoms.

diana_coman: technically speaking I don't own any other box - they are leased by smg rather than by me and I'm not very keen on mixing the stuff tbh; I'll check the backups to see if there's anything worth the trouble still lost

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-11 09:31 diana_coman: good morning; I can't seem to be able to connect to my rockchip anymore: http (ossasepia.com) gives 403 You don't have permission to access / on this server ; ssh refuses connection too; there was NO change as far as I know - I haven't touched it in quite a while and last time I connected everything worked fine; any idea what might be wrong there, BingoBoingo ?

mircea_popescu: i don't even fucking like wilde!

mircea_popescu: i don't as much as fuck girls without backup, stottin' had to handle radionuclide resonant chamber. gimme break.

mircea_popescu: well no, i'm sure it's there, just, i also don't currently know exactly how it works. though in my case could be for lack of caring, i haven't been doing any building in 15 years +

mircea_popescu: i don't get how the necessary situation whereby conflict will follow age gap somehow changes what the conflict is about.

mircea_popescu: "oh but mp -- i don't mean absolute replica ; functional replica suffices" "then here's my recipe to replicate fire : slap girl's cheek middling hard. it'll turn some shade of reddish blue and give off heat for a time."

mircea_popescu: understand : woman saying "i don't have sex" is a fine approximation of "i don't have sex [unless you convincingly ask me to]". meanwhile "i don't suck dicks without permission" connotes "well, you were passed out, i asked three times like the jews, in all directions, and as there was no answer i figured...welll... here's a dick..."

diana_coman: I can't say I don't see his logic there

diana_coman: I must say that I read lewis' narnia very late, mainly to see what the whole buzz was all about but it seemed a very poor and sorry thing to me so I still don't know what is supposed to be amazing about it

mircea_popescu: this is like "oh, cancer... i don't have it". MAYBE ONE DAY YOU DO MOTHERFUCKER!!1

mircea_popescu: i was going to go to rio, for about the same sort of "oh, great party!" naivite that had me go to argentina. in the light of experience i had the relevant parts researched, and now i know i don't want to go to the rio festival in the late 2010s anymore than i want to buy real estate in miami.

mod6: It took some time, and I don't even begin to claim that I know -everything-, but I'm learning each time, and getting better at it. Kuddos to him for doing that.

mod6: No, not at all. I just don't want it to go unanswered either. For insance, it'd be fine with me (asciilifeform?) to simply just take 41`666 shares instead. mircea_popescu can we do that?