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mircea_popescu: (the obvious benefit for you is that eventually you'll be able to say "ledger only runs to the past x lines or y calls of ledger, whichever is longer. this may seem
as "nothing" but mind the "unbounded strings" fallacy. everything has to have a length.)
deedbot: 685BD2BF73D2096B8DBDA3754EE147269B5763CA registered
as pinochle.
deedbot: 28FD28682552EE17282217A4A9DFAC7974E1933D registered
as state_bits.
ben_vulpes: please let me know when you get a delivery date
as well
spyked: mircea_popescu, do you mean the irc logger? well, I figured moar redundancy can't do any harm; and it started
as an occasion to study the various ways in which common lisp can handle the various pieces (database, irc,
http). what I have so far is not very different from btcbase.org/patches/logbot-genesis , only I made it a point to avoid quicklisp and use manual imports etc.
mircea_popescu: then we wonder why the kids are "transgender". but
as their life conditions become more like these offered by sea anemone (ie, a very sparse stone cubicle in a very hostile ocean), the clows will naturally be more like clownfish.
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-26#1786246 << ahh okay, I misunderstood (glad I asked). So each archived webpage will have its own abstract syntax tree of the code. Now I'm starting to see the utility in deduping (e.g. can ignore 'meaningless' changes between otherwise identical webpages (such
as an extra whitespace, etc))
☝︎ ave1: Also,
as it happens on some bot code in ADA, but this is slow going
lobbes: and if 4) is correct, then should that be further broken down into a webpage hierarchy? Because if so, we may be limited using archive.is
as a middle-man
as the zips it spits out do not have the file structure intact; always 'flat' (e.g. this archived orlol:
http://lobbesblog.com/archive/102.zip) mircea_popescu: freenode is about
as sparse
as a camho's brain, no need to get clever.
mircea_popescu: conceivably 2 should be a separate bot also ; but a)
as long
as tyou're maintaining both and b) they really need very much the same level of security and assurance, it doesn't seem worth the hassle.
mircea_popescu: now
as to 1, i don't think it should be out of chan, on one hand because "secret" deeds plainly don't make sense ; on the other because the voice thing is ~probably~ premature in channel that is both new and customer facing. but in principle certainly could in the future have local l1 with voice model for diff channel, i think.
mircea_popescu: ah. so then it's a name-only thing, might
as well have a rss bot name on the rss bot item
mircea_popescu: im not sure i want to have you maintain rss-shenanigans
as part of deedbot proper, they're widely disjunct seriousness.
phf: now this could be misconstrued
as a passive aggressive "how about now! can you read it now!", but my middle click copy paster failed, and then it's znc that's throttle sending. i figured i could kill znc, but mp was faster on the draw
mod6: (doesn't hurt if others do this
as well!)
mod6: what my vtron does is this:
as it iterates through the list of patches to be pressed, after each vpatch pressed, it checks that the output file sha matches the expected.
phf: i have a btcbase based test harnes, but it of course also didn't catch the issue, because it doesn't know about `\ No newline ...' in band thing either. it treats that line
as a textual prelude to the next hunk which is a valid patch format
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1785986 << i thought that it was just a helpful warning, but upon reflection i realized that this is actually a bug. investigating it further i took a wrong direction on a diff's command line flag switch, and
as it stands if you see this warning it
☝︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: although perhaps i gotta sell it to you
as i won't have a spare to fulfill that promise until the next run.
mircea_popescu: mno. if you rent it out for 2x what it costs to buy it over a year, then if i pay for the whole year i'm basically spending the same money
as if buying the machine, but not actually buying it. this is a bum deal. i'm willing to rent it (ie, monthly) or buy it (ie, own it), but i'm not willing to eat the downside of both approaches.
ben_vulpes: you wanna pay for a year of hardware up front and invoices for rack space
as they come due?
BingoBoingo: 1800's South America has some truly lulzy history. Buenos Aires and Brasilero Empire agree to make Uruguay
as a buffer state. Proceed to beat up on Uruguay for a decade. Buenos Aires, Brasilero empire, and Uruguay make peace by going up river and beating Paraguay into pretribal Apocalypse.
mircea_popescu: apparently "private port" w/o private army worth about
as much
as community college degree.
BingoBoingo: They area I'm in Pocitos/Buceo barrios were resort towns until the city swallowed them. Most of the other Barrios came into the city similarly
as encampments and villages that the city just kind of grew into. Reading into the history here it was a sparsely populated country of men until the 1880's. Then the Italians came.
mircea_popescu: local receptionist girly (that's the supreme social achievement for the hairdresser class chickie here, being a doc's receptionist is almost
as good
as being marriewd to him) at the cima hospital (best in the country!!!) was utterly shocked when my response to her telling me the doctor who was like 10 mins late just called to say he's "on his way" but no specific eta wasn't "ok, ok" but "thast's unfortunate, i have other appo
BingoBoingo: I have
as well, in addition to the blog writing. Events have been very 2013 part II entonces feel I ought read more 2013 and 2014
mircea_popescu: truth -- the latins were idiots ; nevermind they didn't even have zero in their lol of a numeration system -- they didn't even have commas. or, for that matter, dots. meta-alphabetic notation (such
as the dash here that permited me to ~signify~ something about symbol relation) is entirely a post-industrial invention. fuck, the bright minds of alchemy-era mathematics didn't even have =.
orgndnor: seeing
as how this is the "serene" republic? most?
orgndnor: wsup = hood english transliterates to: "what is up" hence defining a query
as to the current subject relevant
orgndnor: but it'll be wiped into dust soon enough
as this all will.
mircea_popescu: try and understand that taking refuge in a string of nouns after having pointed out to you that most people will just discard out of hand strings of epithets
as pure painstuitola isn't the best of strategies.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 14:52 mircea_popescu: and
as to the final thing : the whole idea of the archive item (which lobbes asked for and i very much doubt he realised at the time what an immense item it is) is to RECONSTRUCT the poorly designed "web" into proper structure. hence the merkle tree discussions and so on. so very much yes, eventually we'll be using a proper republican accessing scheme.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, if this tree is orphaned for whatever reason (such
as someone regrinding some chunk that includes portions downstream from minigame's press point), the prevailing of that regrind is ~actually~ based on proper social behaviours. it must have been supported by minigame too, to have prevailed ; or else minigame's agency must have been indeed so insignificant
as to warrant some serious self-examination there.
mircea_popescu: for
as long
as this tree is built upon, the VERY FACT that it is built upon guarantees minigame that it will ALWAYS be able to build its prerequisites. because in being older they come earlier in the press, so you just stop sooner.
mircea_popescu: so suppose today minigame calls eucrypt complete, and proceeds to build upon it. suppose later, for whatever reason, something useful is added to the tree (say the elastic hash item --
as it happens there can be decent arguments had both pro and against including what's really not that cryptographic an useful item).
mircea_popescu: yeah, get a rack with meathooks in there too, will double
as punishment room jus' fine
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 15:32 mircea_popescu: incidentally mod6 : given teh centrality of teh work he's doing, do you suppose teh foundation could be prevailed upon to give lobbes a grant so he can get himself a shiny dedicated box with pizarro ? could for instance
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785458 work
as teh application ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally mod6 : given teh centrality of teh work he's doing, do you suppose teh foundation could be prevailed upon to give lobbes a grant so he can get himself a shiny dedicated box with pizarro ? could for instance
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785458 work
as teh application ?
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: and
as to the final thing : the whole idea of the archive item (which lobbes asked for and i very much doubt he realised at the time what an immense item it is) is to RECONSTRUCT the poorly designed "web" into proper structure. hence the merkle tree discussions and so on. so very much yes, eventually we'll be using a proper republican accessing scheme.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and
as to the selection : i just tried ctrl^ and it worked fine. IN NANO.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile being able to authoritatively answer "buy X, not Y" is very valuable, because unlike the above scenario, where time you expend actually dampens republican affairs (
as for every dT you put in, everyone has to put in some d'T
as well), this on the contrary leverages : for every dT you put in, everyone DOESN'T have to put in some d''T.
mircea_popescu:
as in any case the E' will have to be resolved by recourse to the forum, and
as b) is not all that insignificant, the dT investment is a poor usage of your limited T resource.
mod6: I'd love to see others step up and work through that
as well.
shinohai: and phf's diff + ur vtron passed a personal vtest 2gether
as well
ben_vulpes: hey mod6 if there's demand for boxes, would you be averse to selling the machines we got for the foundation to pizarro for leasing on? we can always get another couple of machines, it's not
as though the two we bought for the foundation are super important to get racked right now; i'm sure other folks might be willing to rent 'em out and that'd be a great thing for pizarro's cashflow
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 14:57 mircea_popescu: then the corresponding can also be implemented (l1 can have any blog added). vaguely curious
as to results.
mod6: fwiw I used that binary produced, even with the error, to test and see if it would yield the same vdiff
as the original would, and so far, looks like it works just the same
as printed on the box. I don't have
as good of a test case
as hanbot will have tho. Mine was very basic.
mircea_popescu: for a coupla hours five times a year, such participation
as'd befit the bad name his culture got.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: be so kind
as to comment on the post, my good man << alright, cool.
ben_vulpes: mod6: be so kind
as to comment on the post, my good man
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> sure, when bonds convert, same
as everyone << Sounds fine to me.
mod6: Possible change to: "asciilifeform will pay for BingoBoingo's plane ticket home out of his own pocket, with mod6
as backstop and ben_vulpes
as secondary backstop."
mod6: Alright, one thing that can be cleared up imho: "asciilifeform will pay for the ticket out of his own pocket, with mod6
as backstop and ben_vulpes
as secondary backstop."
mircea_popescu: im sure there's some poor africans in a center for businessmen "owing" each other trillions in notional btc
as we speak, what's to keep 'em.
ben_vulpes: there are some gems in october 5th
as well
joecool: BingoBoingo: will do, I will not frame it
as such
joecool: mircea_popescu: nor do they need to publish it
as that
BingoBoingo: joecool: Write up a draft, if it's good it gets published but the premise makes this seem unlikely
as framed by "probable creators"
diana_coman:
as all my non-adacore environments proved a mess
diana_coman: no, gprbuild is bright enough to do everything; BUT depending on what tools you have installed you can get weird errors when versions mismatch ;
as we had experienced in logs before on various occasions
diana_coman: theoretically
as far
as I can tell it's a feature, not a bug aka "it's not gnatmake's business to do this, go use gprbuild"
diana_coman: gprbuild from adacore works however fine to build aggregate libs
as far
as I can tell
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 17:06 mod6: That seems accurate to me
as well,
as the foundation owns the server assets.
trinque: ben_vulpes obviously said it better than I could have. the foundation's interests are in bitcoin; couldn't be more broad a justification for involvement in society
as the chairs deem.
mircea_popescu: in other words, there's no need to provision for "impartially" ahead of time,
as you have a (working, proven) mechanism to realise that jit.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 16:45 mod6: there might be a better way to go about this without the Foundation's involvement. Like I said before, I could have just put up my own coin for this. Just again,
as discussed yesterday, the thought was "Can The Bitcoin Foundation do something here to help Pizarro, for the Republic and the betterment of Bitcoin
as a whole?"
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1784999 << there is, at the very least, a defensible strongline in there : "since the foundation is entitled in 1 per thousand from all income in tax, it is necessarily acceptable for the foundation to invest 1 per thousand of capital in any and all ventures,
as a matter of principle. that chairs may opt to eschew this for many is a practical matter at their disposal".
☝︎ mod6: That seems accurate to me
as well,
as the foundation owns the server assets.
☟︎ mod6: there might be a better way to go about this without the Foundation's involvement. Like I said before, I could have just put up my own coin for this. Just again,
as discussed yesterday, the thought was "Can The Bitcoin Foundation do something here to help Pizarro, for the Republic and the betterment of Bitcoin
as a whole?"
☟︎ mod6: So reading through some of the comments, questions, concerns rasised by mircea_popescu, and diana_coman, I started thinking yesterday that maybe -- since there are specifically hard-to-draw lines between mod6's role
as Foundation Co-Chair, ben_vulpes's role
as Foundation Co-Chair and their roles
as ``managers'' or ``management'' in Pizarro ...
mircea_popescu: but, for his wasted "coin", back in a day before coin was even invented, yet wots still existed, mp also knows
as a factual, rather than guessed matter, what all is down that road.
mircea_popescu: then the corresponding can also be implemented (l1 can have any blog added). vaguely curious
as to results.
☟︎ mircea_popescu:
as there's nothing there to unwind, there's no moar problem though.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron yes, the idea back then was to send 24 fgs so
as to supply 2each for the at the time dozen boxes i was trying to ship over. the latter part fell through, but
as i thought the former part was still executed, and in phf's hands, i was trying to unwind it.
mircea_popescu: in other news :
as work on eucrypt is winding down -- the whole item is just about complete, needs serpent and we've decided to add an oaep-rsa wrapper (mostly
as a pretext to do some ada-c interop testing), so roughly speaking by end of month it should actually be done -- we're moving on to shaping up the eulora client-server comms model. this will mostly be a design discussion, will take place in #eulora, prolly take up som
mircea_popescu: and since there can never be a better time than the present time : following up on asciilifeform's expert advice, i bought a crate of pogos um... about three years ago, jan/feb 2015, ie when the bitcoin was ~400. they're just
as rare now
as they were then, and they could have been bought today for the ~same i paid for them then. meaning i lost 95 bitcents to the bitcoin on this deal, for howevermany bitcoins i cared to sink i
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:26 mircea_popescu: 11 days should be enough for alf to bake the boxes i expect. danielpbarron i think he's better suited
as they're right next to each other ; but pending discussion with bb can you fedex some pogos ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> last call on this matter : are the surprises done or is there more exoticism waiting to be sprung on innocents ? << The only agreement not stated in the charter was indeed, stated in here, that alf doesn't want to be involved with mircea_popescu
as backseat driver.