Duffer1: ya they're all mockups so far, it'll be interesting to see if they can do what they say
BingoBoingo: These last minute "pre-shipping" announcements seem more like fishing for a last few suckers than anything helpful to people who would have already "Pre-ordered"
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure Labcoin did this. BFL managed to do this several times. Avalon did this when they mined on customer rigs before shipping them.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.09199097 = 2.2998 BTC [+] {4}
Duffer1: labcoin pulled a lot of shit, but they didn't even try to develop something
BingoBoingo: I guess soon it will become obvious if Hashfast was a straight up scam as well.
KRS|Gotyawallet: at least cex.io isn't a scam, its just a straight up rip-off. Never made sense of their pricing in terms of roi..I must hav been doing something wrong because they still have customers.
pankkake: it's all in the referal system
BingoBoingo: Gotchawallet: Well, some people really just want to get mugged
pankkake: there was that funny comic about it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.09199099 = 0.184 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2202 @ 0.00085384 = 1.8802 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 80 @ 0.001499 = 0.1199 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 500 @ 0.0015 = 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 358 @ 0.00179 = 0.6408 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 111 @ 0.001899 = 0.2108 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18548 @ 0.00085206 = 15.804 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28500012 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28500001 = 0.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.03839999 = 0.384 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 28 @ 0.09199099 = 2.5757 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35396 @ 0.00085711 = 30.3383 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00085944 = 13.6221 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Report: NSA Intercepts Computer Deliveries | TheBlaze.com
Duffer1: have you read the der spiegel piece?
mircea_popescu: yeah. it has little to do with the english summary, but hey
Duffer1: i wonder if there's a way to edit windows crash reports, send ms and nsa troll reports instead
Duffer1: dilythium crystals overloaded
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: I imagine repurposing a botnet to spam fake, trollish Windows crash reports might be something some sort of activist could be motivated to do if they had a strong desire of being found.
BingoBoingo: One of those "You don't have to outrun the bear..." cases, except running into the bear's open arms
Duffer1: ya probably not the smartest thing to do
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what exactly are they going to do ? arrest the guy for being an asshole ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe? Possibly troll him back. Such an effort might be a heroic waste of NSA and MS time.
BingoBoingo: Or some agent could say fuck it and activate the mechanisms leading towards extraordinary rendition to a blacksite and use of Datskovskiy’s soldering iron. Hard to tell what the rogue state will do.
BingoBoingo: Under other circumstances it might lead to the NSA extending some sort of job offer.
BingoBoingo: Capriciousness of action is part of make a rouge state rogue
mircea_popescu: it all sounds like good fun to the average botnet master i'm sure.
BingoBoingo: The mindset that leads people to think spamming could be a profitable venture would probably be the sort that could lead someone to think spamming the NSA into thinking "user won Darwin Award" is the most common means by which a Windows system fails
BingoBoingo: Because the point of collecting the reports is for the juicy dump of data about how a machine is configured. The right way would probably be spamming legit looking reports suggesting people are running WIndows 8.1 on PDP-11s, Vaxen, and other ancient systems
mircea_popescu: i know someone who redirected his domains to the whitehouse when someone else was trying to ddos him
BingoBoingo: I wonder what ways Bitcoin will be probed in 2014. Bigger DDoS attacks? BitBet being defaced? The IRS accepting pankkake's altcoin?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999973 = 0.25 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102294 @ 0.00085982 = 87.9544 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49200 @ 0.00086361 = 42.4896 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Anyone have a link to a good discussion of master coin benefits and valuation potential?
BingoBoingo: Bugpowder: Was there ever a good discussion of mastercoin that ended up supposing benefits, valuation potention, or some combination of both in the end?
Bugpowder: I don't know. I'm totally out of the loop on it. What do you think?
BingoBoingo: Bugpowder: Basically mastercoin is this colored coins idea but the developer found a way to try colored coins that involved "Send me your coins and I will make this thing"
Duffer1: r/mastercoin i can sub to be a mastermind
Duffer1: "we recently raised nearly 5000 BTC to build a new protocol layer on top of bitcoin."
Bugpowder: sigh. OK I will do my reading…. tx
Bugpowder: In general I support a development model where people buy-in to the coin via funding its development
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder do the reading, publish the results, get peer reviewed.
Bugpowder: If only I didn't have science to worry about
Bugpowder: wow. 100 master coins were minted per BTC during the kickstarter
mircea_popescu: "holy shit, scam X started at y two months ago now it's at y times over nine thousand!!1" pretty much calls for "call me in two years"
Duffer1: MP is balls deep in doge, only talks shit to get cheaper doge
Duffer1: at least, dats what some1on 4chan sais
Bugpowder: I am talking about MSC not MST by the way
Bugpowder: 18 is where the total future market cap = BBQcoin's total future market cap at current valuation.
Bugpowder: since BBQcoin is a worthless coin, yet still has value…
Bugpowder: OK I know that is a stupid analysis
Gotchawallet: arent most of the mastercoin owned by the founders and friends
Bugpowder: anyone that participated in the kickstarter… yep
Bugpowder: doesn't necessarily mean it's not going to become useful
Bugpowder: different jobs could have different types of coins serve them best
Gotchawallet: yea initially it seemed great to me but that turned me off
Duffer1: i didn't read past the part where the ceo introduced himself
Duffer1: oh lol ya that came out wrong
ozbot: Mastercoin is a joke : Bitcoin
Duffer1: but like it totally works if like market participants act rationally and in good faith
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.04999989 = 2.05 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29873392 = 2.9873 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [+]
benkay: one changes bids in this derpstributed marketplace by simply transmitting another transaction that supersedes the previous bid/ask
benkay: and whichever makes it into the blockchain is nominally the official bid
benkay: thing is a goddamn shitshow
benkay: will gladly fisk to the tune of 1700 words for 1 btc.
benkay: how to revoke orders once in blockchain is left as an exercise to the alert reader
benkay: read: it's non trivially parsed from this moronic 'spec'.
mircea_popescu: basically, you folks are doing all the legwork into figuring this stuff out anyway
benkay: it's almost as though willet et al have heard about a thing called a spec and how some people involved with bitcoin think the cryptocurrency might be better off with a spec than new features, chose to 'implement' a 'spec' that's wholly inadequate to the task at hand
mircea_popescu: publishing the results is really getting mileage out of already sunk in work. otherwise it just rots away
benkay: ya well working with jurov to recoup time investment in parsing mpex complexities
benkay: would be more than happy to parse mastercoin retardities for you for pay
benkay: have no interest in maintaining blog thing
mircea_popescu: you know it's easier to do in retrospect than it looks.
benkay: the little i know about myself and men in general is that we don't tend to have a lot to say on topics of interest to large populations until we hit like thirty five and have a reasonable base of experience from which to generalize
mircea_popescu: you just write a report to yourself, click publish, go on your merry way
benkay: blogging also turns one into a public persona
mircea_popescu: i get it, public speaking is the #1 fear n the english world. nevertheless, step outside of your culture
benkay: rookie reporter does not start newspaper
mircea_popescu: you are not writing to an audience. you are writing to yourself.
mircea_popescu: you get very cheap extra research IF anyone ever reads your stuff
mircea_popescu: but that's not why you write. why you write is so that YOU can re-read it if you ever forget wtf X was
benkay: right because there's no textbook for cryptocurrency idiocy
benkay: i can always pull out the dynamics and controls tomes and implement whatever thing i forgot the intricacies of implementing, but i won't always have access to my memories of why mastercoin is completely stupified.
mircea_popescu: take it from experience, people ask me about 1year+ oldscams i have to review writs
mircea_popescu: scams are eminently forgettable in all those specific details that make discussion possible or worthwhile
benkay: but think you could spend just one bitcoin and get a full report on the derpage, plus some negotiated amount of additional "hey kid you're stupid and didn't look into this enough plz foar to fix"
mircea_popescu: ya but i do not wish to befoul the marketplace of ideas by abusing my financial power.
Duffer1: pay x to shit all over something that just miiggghhhtt help the overall bitcoin ecosystem?
benkay: you'd befoul the idea marketplace, and defoul the bitcoinscamosystem
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 the helping part is a vanishingly long shot at this point.
mircea_popescu: a spiked club colonoscopy could conceivably also help some old geezer
Duffer1: the same way gay sex can cure constipation?
mircea_popescu: i thought taking it in the pooper made you stop shitting for the dya
Duffer1: benkay coindesk might be interested
Duffer1: dunno if they pay though or if they're the huffpost of cryptoland
benkay: i do so dearly want to associate my name with publications whose trade is which american bitcoin company may or may not be raising another pile of idiot cash this week
ozbot: Community - "Make your money whore." - YouTube
Bugpowder: this is how startups end up working tho. Raise a bunch of money before you have a real product, and try to assemble one before you can't raise an ever increasing sum of money
Bugpowder: Stanford model vs. MIT model. Usually Stanford model does better
Bugpowder: occasionally MIT model makes a tech so awesome that it does change the market
mircea_popescu: only if the stanford model is applied to a well controlled environment made out of wasp kids thoroughly acculturated.
mircea_popescu: if the stanford model is exposed to the world the net result is today's us.
mircea_popescu: and as to mit, the "premier engineering school in teh werld", all i have to say is www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIhk9eKOLzQ
Duffer1: i'm gonna name my next cat "fuffles"
Bugpowder: by wasp you mean neo-wasp meritistocrats, not WSJ Joe Epstein US was great when WASPs were kings?
mircea_popescu: no, i mean people repressed to the point they actually need marketeers to give them topics for conversation.
reeses: I always wondered about MIT grads with degrees in the humanities
chetty: these days not talking to strangers is wisdom, not repression
Bugpowder: Sad thing, the Course 21W major...
ozbot: MIT Course Catalog: Degrees Offered in the School of Humanities, Arts, and Social Sciences
reeses: we have funny "you *have* to have a college degree!" programs here in the US
reeses: when I was in school I dated a girl whose major was "comparative history of ideas"
reeses: I think it was philosophy-lite
reeses: yeah, but this was a school of arts & sciences undergrad
reeses: which meant she had to take maybe four courses to satisfy the department requirement
reeses: CHID is an undergraduate major and minor that has been around since 1978. The participating members (students, staff and faculty) of CHID collectively construct a dynamic, creative learning community that mobilizes collective and individual passions. We encourage our members to pursue self-knowledge through participation in the changing world in which their selves are shaped and which they will shape for their own and future generations.
mircea_popescu: ok, new definition for wasp : person that reads the above and does not immediately think "so they fuck on campus ?"
Namworld: What's a wasp? My first thought was "You ain't getting a job with that."
reeses: white anglo-saxon protestant
reeses: vestigial ruling class in the US and UK
reeses: preppies are their larval stage
mircea_popescu: a wasp is a kid that grows up principally interracting with his parents, who are overly-intellectual, is never beaten, is carefully kept overclean and never gets to either injure himself or face any real responsibility
mircea_popescu: where real responsibility is that situation where either choice stinks, you gotta pick one and then stick with it, without redemption.
reeses: dead poet's society as well
mircea_popescu: for that matter, anything with that jew bimbo in it, what's his name
Namworld: I have not. Although it seems by the new definition you gave it, I'm a wasp.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0499999 = 0.25 BTC [+]
ozbot: The Late, Great American WASP - WSJ.com
Bugpowder: but if you want to reappropriate the term, using the W-word as a term of endearment, go ahead.
mircea_popescu: " unless one includes the entity that has come to be known as the meritocracy—presumably an aristocracy of sheer intelligence, men and women trained in the nation's most prestigious schools.
mircea_popescu: lmao, bureaucracy never gets sick of sucking itself off huh
mircea_popescu: the notion that there'd be a meritocracy in the us is beyond a simple lol
Bugpowder: which I had never fucking heard of till going to my kid's Mommy and Me preschool
Duffer1: yer just jealous of our freedom
mircea_popescu: kinda impossible to have old money in a crooked place, so yeah.
benkay: the wasps are all lifetime government slaves
benkay: i pirated one of their young femmes off in my gypsy joo caravan
benkay: have to self-restrain from mocking the family around said femme
benkay: the best part is how all the women are involved in welfare programs, and all the men in nominal spycraft
ozbot: U.S. Open Doubles Paddle Tennis Tournament is this Sat. Sept. 21 : Venice Paparazzi | Venice Beach
mircea_popescu: to the degree that there's this old russian joke, goes like this :
reeses: I thought it was 'table tennis'
mircea_popescu: usa sends spy to cccp, within a coupla months they realise he'd been ferreted out and fed misinformation since just about day one
reeses: no, wasps make great spies
mircea_popescu: so they send another spy, and... well... same deal. and then more and more. eventually they ask a defector, and the guy smikrs and says "perhaps you might try not sending black people ?"
☟︎ ozbot: Robert Hanssen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ozbot: Elizabeth Bentley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bugpowder: more than US$1.4 million in cash and diamonds over a 22-year period.
mircea_popescu: that "worst intelligence disaster" has meanwhile been surpassed.
reeses: it's *cheap* to turn people
Bugpowder: well whatever people were getting rich off then
Bugpowder: Criminal penaltyLife imprisonment (without parole)
Bugpowder: Might have well been dealing kilos of yayo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56243 @ 0.00088361 = 49.6969 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Earl Edwin Pitts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bugpowder: My mortgage is bigger than all these dudes payouts… I've been turned by WFC.
reeses: $463000 (2013 US dollars)
reeses: (based on Consumer Price Index)
reeses: that will buy a nice 70m^2 apartment here
reeses: with a commute and no view
ozbot: 700 Illinois St # 3, San Francisco, CA 94107 is For Sale - Zillow
mircea_popescu: fascinating to read a 10 year old wsj piece, and discover how it merely sucks as compared to a coupla decades before
mircea_popescu: as opposed to todaqy's indescribable retards of "we've taken a two week master's"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00088638 = 8.0661 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.03666666 = 0.22 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00088474 = 31.4967 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29996988 = 1.1999 BTC [-]
ozbot: Global Warming Expedition Remains Trapped…”No Guarantee” Australian Icebreaker Will Get Throug
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29989995 = 0.5998 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25612 @ 0.00088708 = 22.7199 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12188 @ 0.00088708 = 10.8117 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.000892 = 22.3892 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24071 @ 0.00089309 = 21.4976 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.000892 = 5.1736 BTC [-]
ArsKisS: on what terms does the bot publish those?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00089369 = 5.1834 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02194999 = 0.2414 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13012 @ 0.000892 = 11.6067 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41999 @ 0.00288 = 120.9571 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15440 @ 0.00088444 = 13.6558 BTC [-]
ozbot: I only very rarely read people here talk about Predictious or other prediction markets. Is it becaus
ThickAsThieves: "Because they're centralized. Decentralized prediction markets are going to be available in a couple months. Why risk it on some site that can get hacked, seized or turn out to be a scam."
ThickAsThieves: "The idea of a decentralized market is that it allows anyone anonymous but with accrued and verifiable reputation to be the arbiter and/or market maker of any particular market, while he stays safe from sabotage."
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, how does the bot sort out when to publish? some certain volume or what kind of criteria?
ThickAsThieves: of course the algo changing the price is a diff question
ArsKisS: you mean it publishes last trade of every stock for like hourly?
ArsKisS: I've been wondering a while how it sorts out when to announce and when not
ArsKisS: certainly can't be announcing all trades :D
ArsKisS: btw what do you guys think about seedcoin?
ArsKisS: well, I just started seeing what's inside
ThickAsThieves: i met the Hive people once, they seem to have their act together
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 330 @ 0.00290998 = 0.9603 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0499999 = 0.35 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: but otherwise, I know nothing of the Seedcoin manager, so it's hard for me to count on him to choose and make good deals
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00088727 = 25.021 BTC [+]
ArsKisS: this might be bad ass site if they get traffic
mikaeldice: How can I confirm and test (on the endpoint) the connection to the DH?
mikaeldice: Also, can you provide some query commands to check overall health of Access
mikaeldice: I am relatively new in this role and am only aware of policyfetcher.log
mikaeldice: Are there any quick reference guides you can recommend? I have tried to look
mikaeldice: at the full guides but am getting a little lost on how to translate them and
mikaeldice: Yeah, derped.. Right clicked the wrong window :P
ArsKisS: one thing about seedcoin that I'm pretty sure of is that it will after the IPO
ArsKisS: anyone disagrees for a good reason? :P
ArsKisS: how can I lose a whole word by typo :O
mikaeldice: You'd think people would rather invest in the individual startups themselves, given that there's little mentioned regarding the fund operator's experience or past results
ArsKisS: I'd rather invest straight to btc.sx or cryptopay
VanCleef: id rather delete my wallet.dat file
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29102002 = 0.582 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.29000002 = 2.32 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00088444 = 22.2879 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00290999 = 1.455 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00088444 = 14.4164 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mikaeldice investing directly is much like shooting porn directly. you need an erection and you need to not be camera shy
VanCleef: put a small chilie in your ass and you're good to go
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.00290999 = 0.5034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31050 @ 0.00088442 = 27.4612 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.29989998 = 2.3992 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2100 @ 0.001 = 2.1 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45188 @ 0.00088947 = 40.1934 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1889 @ 0.001 = 1.889 BTC
ozbot: BBC News - Cash machines robbed with infected USB sticks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00291 = 0.291 BTC [+]
pankkake: I thought autorun on usb keys was disabled
pankkake: unless they're using very old windows versions. oh wait… that's what they do
pankkake: anyway, title should be "dollar hacked, loses value overnight"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20307 @ 0.00089451 = 18.1648 BTC [+] {2}
VanCleef: can anyone explain what really happened to bitfunders users coins?
Ukyo: thats a simple answer. they were transfered to weexchange
VanCleef: his explanation is "they are just gone, this is a fact"
Ukyo: thats not what I said.
Ukyo: I said that are not available.
Ukyo: and that is a fact.
Ukyo: anywho, back to working on the amportal
VanCleef: but that doesn't actually explain anything
VanCleef: your reason for why bitfunderes users coins are not avilable is because they are not available lol
pankkake: he asked "can anyone" - maybe others do
pankkake: not that the why really matters… scammer or incompetent, it's a very thin line nowadays
VanCleef: say my friend gave me a million dollars in a bag and dropped it to my house to watch it for him and he'll be back in a week. Then i go out and have a crazy week or maybe i call my friend and ask him to sneak into my house at night and steal the bag. Now, my other friends comes back a week later to pick up the bag. But there is no bag and he asks me what happened and i say i dont know its just not here anymore.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.002919 = 0.8757 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 152 @ 0.00189887 = 0.2886 BTC [+] {2}
VanCleef: i think i owe it to my friend to say to him "look i was a dickhead and i spent the million dollars, i'm sorry"
ThickAsThieves: i'm not gonna bother speculating as to what may complicate things to be like they are
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 90 @ 0.00219555 = 0.1976 BTC [+] {2}
VanCleef: its just a huge mindfuck that's all
VanCleef: i really hope there is a real explanation of what really happened oneday when the time is right
VanCleef: if Ukyo promises to do that i will stop
Ukyo: thats been the promise all along VanCleef
VanCleef: i will stop for now then and let you get on with it
VanCleef: have you seen those people at airports ThickAsThieves were you can go exchange different currencies?
VanCleef: i would liek to do something similar like that with a person instead of an ATM
pankkake: can you get cash for bitcoins, or can only buy?
pankkake: oh… now that is more interesting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3683 @ 0.001 = 3.683 BTC
pankkake: and no one is trying to stop it? :)
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VanCleef: lamassu would be good to have in 7-11's or something
ThickAsThieves: i could probly strike a deal with a business owner to host one
pankkake: only joking, these are terrible places, but that answers your question :p
pankkake: "where do 25-45yo yuppies feel safe and frequent"
ThickAsThieves: to establishments that may accept a fledgling bitcoin ATM service
pankkake: otherwise, shops, any place where there are ATMs already
Gotchawallet: 7-11 = southland corporation I did some contract work for them on behalf of hewlett packard. They are "very" open minded about any revenue making opportunities. Their current machines are called 'vcom' and are pretty obnoxious. they're a *huge* franchise.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC
Gotchawallet: eh? i have before as in cash in pocket..what do you mean?
pankkake:
http://www.compte-nickel.fr/ is a new French alternative to banks, and their distribution network is tobacco shops (who sell a bunch of other things, it's a "french thing")
Gotchawallet: it has to have capabilities other than bitcoin at least initially
Gotchawallet: anyway thats my .02 but great brainstorming love it
pankkake: get a bitcoin paper wallet with your picture on it?
ThickAsThieves: so far i like: current buy gold shops, jewelers, pawn shops
Gotchawallet: and why cant they be sold via a website again?
ThickAsThieves: [12:51] <Gotchawallet> and why cant they be sold via a website again? <<< because that market is saturated
pankkake: it's a dying business, which is good
pankkake: lol, so many reasons it will not happen
ThickAsThieves: there's a plaza in jacksonville with a video game shop AND a Jeweler
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02291159 = 0.1146 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02341121 = 0.1873 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00089451 BTC [+]
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message)
benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
gribble: BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 761.98, Best ask: 764.18, Bid-ask spread: 2.20000, Last trade: 762.4, 24 hour volume: 33352.24, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 749.07
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00292 = 0.5694 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.002929 = 0.1377 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2789 @ 0.00008037 = 0.2242 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 574 @ 0.00292532 = 1.6791 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35123 @ 0.00089778 = 31.5327 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 80 @ 0.0027 = 0.216 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2999 @ 0.00012599 = 0.3778 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.00291 = 0.3841 BTC [-]
benkay: hey nerds y'all gotta check out floobits
benkay: homie's hacking in sublime and i'm watching in emacs
benkay: text propagates in all directions
Gotchawallet: i dont want a fawking plan tho i want teh source
Gotchawallet: so i can host, market and resell for leet profits
benkay: this isn't open source
thestringpuller: in vim or whatever and you can watch in another screen session :P
benkay: good luck hooking designers into that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC
ArsKisS: people seem to actually buy that Seedcoin ipo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26269 @ 0.00090055 = 23.6565 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.286 = 0.572 BTC [-]
nubbins`: just stained my cuticles a lovely Pantone 7467 U
nubbins`: looking forward to having teal fingers for the next two weeks ;(
nubbins`: equal parts green and process blue
ThickAsThieves: also memorized the "real" colors people want to change them to
nubbins`: i'm lucky to receive artwork with fucking spot colors
nubbins`: i tell ya, you're not a graphic designer until you've worked in print
nubbins`: "the printer will figure it out"
nubbins`: ah, same diff. coated vs uncoated ;)
nubbins`: altho there's a surprising difference between the two
nubbins`: we actually have use for both uncoated and coated colors, which is a bit of a rarity, i think
nubbins`: uncoated for all our flatstock
nubbins`: you may appreciate this, actually
ozbot: Hey Rosetta show poster - pictures and thoughts
ozbot: Hey Rosetta show poster - pictures and thoughts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+]
nubbins`: but that describes like 150 days out of every year
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0495 = 0.1485 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28511037 = 0.5702 BTC [-]
deanclkclk: question to you folks..is BTC-e.com an legal entity?
mike_c: they are russian. that feels like an anwer.
benkay: well they exist, and they do bitcoin. fiat governments are going to learn soon how difficult it can be to fuck with bitcoin companies that are dedicated to stay beyond their grasp.
mike_c: putin will fuck with whoever he wants.
kakobrekla: its easy to shutdown btc-es banks prolly
mike_c: he will steal their super bowl rings
kakobrekla: and i doubt they will have personal accounts for that amounts even in russia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 233 @ 0.00294334 = 0.6858 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: btc-e takes fiat deposits?
benkay: dag well i guess they're coupled to the old world then huh
kakobrekla: has been doing so for a long time afaik
benkay: yeah i must have been thinking about some other sexchange.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0495 = 0.2475 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00089664 = 24.2093 BTC [-]
pankkake: ATF is a fun agency name. it sounds like "banning everything fun"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 338 @ 0.00295 = 0.9971 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 427 @ 0.001 = 0.427 BTC
deanclkclk: my point is..is BTC-E compliant with anti money laundering?
deanclkclk: or I"m thinking that in mother russia..it's more lax when it comes to that
kakobrekla: <deanclkclk> my point is..is BTC-E compliant with anti money laundering?
deanclkclk: I wanted to create an exchange but, I don't want to comply with anti money laundering
deanclkclk: because, it takes away anonymity from my clients
kakobrekla: I want four chicks on my dick but only one fits
mike_c: "Part of the FINCEN guidelines are establishing a sufficient anti money laundering program. BTC-e has none." < from random internet poster. fwiw.
kakobrekla: im sorry were we not playing "i want" game?
deanclkclk: kakobrekla: your dick is either too big or too small
deanclkclk: well ..I'm not in the US but, my country has a law similar
mike_c: i want a turnkey hack-proof web server.
mike_c: let me know when it arrives.
mike_c: no, web server. i am sick of sys-admin'ing.
mike_c: hah. anyone i would trust more than me I couldn't afford.
mike_c: yes. stop ruining my 'i want'.
kakobrekla: im not ruining, im addint to yours, now you also have the "i want a sysadmin who i can trust, for a buck" card
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.286 = 0.572 BTC [+]
Duffer1: dean you want to create a fiat/btc exchange?
kakobrekla: its easy, with a string and two cans you can match bitstamp
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.09999612 = 2.6999 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.1 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28800001 = 0.864 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.00295 = 0.3983 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]