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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47350 @ 0.00038934 = 18.4352 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00039258 = 7.6553 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00039258 = 4.7698 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32563 @ 0.00039258 = 12.7836 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00039258 = 9.4808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17323 @ 0.00038953 = 6.7478 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40877 @ 0.00038779 = 15.8517 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25170 @ 0.00038736 = 9.7499 BTC [-] {2}
mats: https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key hue ☟︎
assbot: PGP Key Generator - iGolder ... ( http://bit.ly/1QV0ZhQ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39787 @ 0.00039258 = 15.6196 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32228 @ 0.00038939 = 12.5493 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39671 @ 0.00039991 = 15.8648 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00040161 = 9.1366 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00040198 = 10.1701 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00040198 = 15.436 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17914 @ 0.00042164 = 7.5533 BTC [+] {3}
decimation: mats: is that server-side or does it generate key in javascript?
decimation: mircea_popescu: is your "forever living" comment a slight on "young living"?
mats: it looks like its all js but i have a shallow understanding of how things in the browser work
decimation: mats: yeah because server-side would be obviously retarded
mats: or genius
decimation: heh
mircea_popescu: no, thereeis scam
mircea_popescu: ;;google forever living aloe vera
gribble: Forever Living Products - Benefits of Aloe: <https://www.foreverliving.com/marketing/Page.do?name=benefits>; Aloe Vera Gel - Forever Living Products International: <https://www.foreverliving.com/marketing/Shop.do?productCode=015>; Forever Living Products | Aloe Vera Products | Multi-Level Marketing ...: <https://www.foreverliving.com/>
decimation: heh
mircea_popescu: they sell aloe vera for everytying
mircea_popescu: (/me has once rescued a well bosomed oyung lady from their old womanly clutches)
decimation: no doubt some plant extracts can solve medical issues
decimation: but often these mlm schemes charge $$$ for dubious products
mircea_popescu: this thing is strictly separated from any consideration but sales.
mircea_popescu: aloe vera is useful in dermatology. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they're selling two gallon potable extract
decimation: heh
mircea_popescu: yes, vegetal goop is potable. no, there's no reason to pay 95 bux or w/e
decimation: I've had aloe vera yogurt before
decimation: it was weird
mircea_popescu: incidentally ben_ meh
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25736 @ 0.00042369 = 10.9041 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00041848 = 1.6321 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45423 @ 0.0004237 = 19.2457 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ever seen https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1120 ?
assbot: already have block - causing bandwidth to be wasted - vicious circle? · Issue #1120 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1TTgCpc )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the article or the effect described therein ?
mircea_popescu: "works as intended"
asciilifeform: almost certain i've seen the effect.
asciilifeform: in fact, this ~is~ the bastards thing innit.
mircea_popescu: yes.
asciilifeform: aaaand notice what the bugger proposes as 'solution on the way'
asciilifeform: under 'Closing, as it "works as intended". Pull requests to speed up block downloading are on the way and could use testing, see #2964.'
asciilifeform: guess what 2964 was.
mircea_popescu: i linked you lol, i dun need to guess
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: addressing studio audience!
decimation: delete all txns without valid blocks on disk? ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178565 << and apparently also good for >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177279 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 02:10:49; mircea_popescu: aloe vera is useful in dermatology.
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 07:14:51; BingoBoingo: Some BUtuchyag grade Fatlogic. Measuring HamPlanets in pounds AND GALLONS, by their own request https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg
asciilifeform: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~elaine/teaching/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency.html << still up...
assbot: CMSC 818I: Science of Crypto-Currency ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRrmCS )
asciilifeform a little surprised
decimation: asciilifeform: you should audit the class
asciilifeform: decimation: 8xx is grad class, they don't let civilians in
mircea_popescu: i really dun expect it'll soon go down.
asciilifeform: decimation: plus it's in working hours
decimation: ah yeah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26941 @ 0.00042 = 11.3152 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178590 << tx nuke does this ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 02:46:03; decimation: delete all txns without valid blocks on disk?
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I was being silly
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 362724 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 155 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, 38 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
decimation: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 243.04, Best ask: 243.13, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 243.13, 24 hour volume: 10324.91808216, 24 hour low: 240.61, 24 hour high: 243.9, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: no changes eh.
decimation: so much for bitcoin instability
decimation: it's more stable than eurusd
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: well, it's for sure more stabilizing.
mircea_popescu: so yea.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178541 << how many 'keybases' are there even. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 01:09:10; mats: https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key hue
asciilifeform: does every derpatron have its own
decimation: asciilifeform: if done in javascript it's not immediately stupid
decimation: other than "why?"
asciilifeform: immediately stupid in the same way keybase is
decimation: it's possible it doesn't upload the privkey immediate
asciilifeform: doesn't need to
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00040718 = 3.7868 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: 1) did you read the thing. ~every time you loaded it~ 2) does your browser access /dev/random ?
decimation: yeah I was about to ask where the entropy for the rng comes from
decimation: don't tell me it's from server
mircea_popescu: ;)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178572 << this is ~not~ in 0.5.3. it had only '-noirc', default off. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 02:16:03; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ?
mircea_popescu: ah did it ?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/init.cpp#0168
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRt87d )
asciilifeform: and http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/irc.cpp#0261
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtdaJ )
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform is not proud of having that thing live in his head now - it's gotta be good for something like mental equivalent of 'black lung disease' - but it can be handy
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/14HRFX8 << quick and dirty census off a few hours of a single node running.
assbot: dpaste: 14HRFX8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtB9o )
mircea_popescu: version 70002 - 50 version 70001 - 9 version 60001 - 9 version 60000 - 1 Total - 69
asciilifeform: https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key << server side!
assbot: PGP Key Generator - iGolder ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtH0C )
asciilifeform: did nobody ~read~ the src!
asciilifeform: l0ltr0n1c!
mircea_popescu: (server itself is declaring 60001, and im unsure what the foundation nodes will say. 50001 maybe ?)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/serialize_8h_source.html#l00044
assbot: bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: bitcoin/src/serialize.h Source File ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtXN8 )
asciilifeform: is what it'll say.
asciilifeform: see, www with src is handy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16039 @ 0.00040718 = 6.5308 BTC [-]
decimation: asciilifeform: wait the server gens the whole key?
mircea_popescu: not the client version tho, the proto version.
asciilifeform: decimation: go, look
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as there's two. "version" : 60200, "protocolversion" : 60001, for instance
decimation: asciilifeform: I don't see any crypto code in the javascript, but it's not a very familiar language. I do see an input form with a submit mechanism
decimation: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/public-speech-is-a-bad-idea/ < heh, even 'gay in tech' sam altman loses against sjw
assbot: Public speech is a bad idea | Bloody shovel ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRuIFX )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00041304 = 9.9336 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "runs for them a short part of the way and for us the whole way". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the entire shitfest is going to be killed by its own methods.
mircea_popescu eagerly pushing the sword in every chance he gets.
mircea_popescu: singing "you've made your one nail bed, now lie in it" to a happy tune.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, "We shall drown, and nobody will save us" is exactly right. they shall, drown. nobody will, save them.
decimation: well, his reasoning is sound, people have no business on twitter
mircea_popescu: he does not get to avail himself of this soundness.
mircea_popescu: he is part of the entire shebang pushing "twitter as a business - business as a twitter"
mircea_popescu: what's next, "quisling has a point - people should stand up for what they believe in" ?
mircea_popescu: not a point sam altman may ever have. his points, such as they are, must be of an entirely different nature.
decimation: ah I thought you meant spandrell
mircea_popescu: a
decimation: yeah altman is getting his just deserts
mircea_popescu: i dunno about spandrell ever, but who cartes. "note that altman is gay in tech and that didn't save him" ? fu nutso boi.
mircea_popescu: s/ever/either/
decimation: he's one of those on the fringe of the 'reactionaries'
decimation: I think he might actually live in china
mircea_popescu has no idea, so wont' comment.
decimation: he has some interesting posts relating chinese history: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/giving-the-handle/ ☟︎
assbot: Giving the handle | Bloody shovel ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRvDpW )
decimation: "
decimation: ?You don?t get it?, says General Wang. ?The emperor is a suspicious man. He doesn?t trust anyone. Right now I have under my command 600,000 men, the entire army of the country. Every once in a while he must be asking himself: ?What if this Wang Jian guy rebels against me??."
decimation: And even if he doesn?t ask himself, there?s always an annoying eunuch paid by a rival general trying to backstab me, saying that I am famous and honorable, and that the opposition might rally around me, that I?m too powerful and must be killed sooner rather than later. Only by openly displaying that I am a vile, corrupt character who only cares about money, can I make the king trust that I have no higher ambition.?
decimation: And so Wang Jian kept sending messenger asking for stuff, and the King never suspected his loyalty. He liked his pettiness. Wang Jian went forward to invade Chu, destroy its armies, capture his king, and annexed the country into the soon to be Qin Empire. He went back home, and very unusual in a famous general, died a peaceful death.
mircea_popescu: hehe
decimation: ^ the king (Ying Zheng) was the guy buried with a massive terra cotta army
mircea_popescu: aha
decimation: whose tomb is apparently still intact, and is rumored to contain an entire map of china with all the rivers made of mercury
mircea_popescu: mercury evaporates.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32866 @ 0.000414 = 13.6065 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: apparently they don't wanna open the tomb until they can be sure they won't ruin it
mircea_popescu: aha.
decimation: heh from la wik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang < "Mao Zedong, chairman of the People's Republic of China, was reviled for his persecution of intellectuals. On being compared to the First Emperor, Mao responded: "He buried 460 scholars alive; we have buried forty-six thousand scholars alive... You [intellectuals] revile us for being Qin Shi Huangs. You are wrong. We have surpassed Qin Shi Huang a hundredfold. When you ber
assbot: Qin Shi Huang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRwx5O )
mircea_popescu: !up Saoquim
asciilifeform: decimation: mega-emperor. to me he is ~the~ emperor of cn, very overworked subject in books on the place i had as a kid
asciilifeform: esp. re: the 'immortality' business
decimation: yeah, according to la wik the traditional historiography focuses on his immortality 'schemes'
asciilifeform: died, iirc, of one too many 'immortality pills'
asciilifeform: 'forever living' ! (tm)
decimation: yeah as i recall he took mercury pills
decimation: asciilifeform: did you even play 'romance of the three kingdoms' on nintendo?
asciilifeform: on emulator
asciilifeform: but - yes.
decimation: yeah, it was fun with a group
decimation: although the menu scroll became annoying
asciilifeform: it was one of the things that made me go 'folks played games on machines without keyboard ?!! how??!'
decimation: heh. 'we didn't know better'
decimation: although I also enjoyed several classic dos games like master of orion and x-wing
asciilifeform: to me, msdos was ~the~ games platform
asciilifeform: still is!
decimation: I believe early nintendo had keyboard (sold in japan)
asciilifeform: aha, 'famicom'
decimation: for some reason they declined to enter the 'cheap computer wars'
asciilifeform: when i heard of it, i couldn't help but parse it as 'famine' rather than the intended 'family' - console
asciilifeform: they declined to fight in the 8bit comp wars, and... we still have a nintendo co. to kick around
asciilifeform: unlike cbm, atari, et al
asciilifeform: (sega actually made a pc! with built-in 'genesis' ! and it even shared memory with the pc, somehow. unknown outside of jp)
decimation remembers fondly going to the video rental store to rent nintendo games ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00041414 = 3.3338 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21933 @ 0.00041414 = 9.0833 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00041414 = 1.698 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19511 @ 0.00040704 = 7.9418 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00040449 = 12.4785 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43031 @ 0.00040191 = 17.2946 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up Bingo_bar
mircea_popescu: !up chicago
Chicago: Hey thanks, Whats the topic this hour?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8415 @ 0.00040461 = 3.4048 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: hm. nothing much.
scoopbot_revived: The actual state of the Bitcoin network http://trilema.com/2015/the-actual-state-of-the-bitcoin-network/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00040513 = 4.6185 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00040911 = 2.7819 BTC [+] {3}
cazalla: bingo_bar ya should be drinking and chatting to the honeys not irc nerds
mircea_popescu: such as http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm0mvqsaLC1qd25mzo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMdHZL )
cazalla: nice big areola
mircea_popescu: "We write elegant and minimal apps that works. We develop web apps with Django framework."
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/domain/dazzlepod.com/new/ << apparently this used to be a thing
assbot: newest submissions : dazzlepod.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMeA4D )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3001 @ 0.00041738 = 1.2526 BTC [+]
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIdT1LEUYAEUfwp.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMg6Uk )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00041738 = 1.753 BTC [+]
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIfFRqsVEAAsQZ4.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMhmqw )
punkman: !up NewLiberty
punkman: !up sinetek
cazalla: https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org/msg00216.html
assbot: [bitcoin-dev] Upcoming DOS vulnerability announcements for BitcoinCore ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nm5IDd )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25750 @ 0.00041738 = 10.7475 BTC [+]
punkman: !up awokestillY2K
awokestillY2K: thanks punk, rottentomatos is flagged too, loled on arnie
punkman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33296839
assbot: Greece debt crisis: Tsipras announces bailout referendum - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm1c7t )
punkman: apparently that's gonna cost about 100mil euros
mircea_popescu: what better use of money.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00040854 = 6.6592 BTC [-]
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMZmw-1wj5Q
assbot: LOLAWOLF - Every Fuckin Day - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm2Iqg )
cazalla: nice one america, now i'm gonna hear even more gay marriage bullshit downunder
cazalla: not that i really give a fuck what a bunch of gender bender trans fluid unicorns do, just the fucking posturing "i'm sooo progressive look at moi, look at moi, look at moooi"
awokestillY2K: lol, who gives a fuck?
punkman: what if you are allergic to rainbows
awokestillY2K: aussie refferendum would cost n100 rainbows
cazalla: awokestillY2K, ya know this will be the hot topic the aus gov uses at the next election to pass the baton
awokestillY2K: bitcoin unaffected
awokestillY2K: you can thank your favourite god that noones forcing anyone to get married
cazalla: !up awokestillY2K
cazalla: u trollin' me vexual?
awokestillY2K: hell no
awokestillY2K: here im starting to work on 48 unit billable days tho
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68944 @ 0.000402 = 27.7155 BTC [-] {2}
awokestillY2K: im looking for ore to build u a 316 10kg machete
cazalla: i'm good machete wise
awokestillY2K: nuff said
awokestillY2K: machetes are for plantlife kids, lets make that clear
awokestillY2K: thats not illegal yet?
cazalla: http://gov.texas.gov/news/press-release/21131?utm_medium=social&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=20150626_txgov-p-scotus_samesexmarriage_06262015_twitter&utm_content=txgov
assbot: Office of the Governor - Greg Abbott - [Press Release] Governor Abbott Statement On Supreme Court Ruling On Same-Sex Marriage ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm5dZI )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00039718 = 11.4388 BTC [-]
awokestillY2K: personally, i'd prefer law and religion separate
awokestillY2K: too many abbotts
cazalla: i'm hoping it will act as kindling
awokestillY2K: howso?
cazalla: more crazies doing their thing is how
awokestillY2K: meh
awokestillY2K: seen dope(2015) yet?
awokestillY2K: whats mine is mine whats yours is yours
cazalla: nah, have not been to the cinemas in years
awokestillY2K: me neither
awokestillY2K: i did see madmax on someones recoommendatiuon
awokestillY2K: poor cunt spent half the movie with forks for teeth
cazalla: fuck paying $25 to sit through 45m of commercials.. the fucking hide
cazalla: !up awokestillY2K
awokestillY2K: i think i paid 8.50
cazalla: independents bit too far for me to bother
awokestillY2K: check the xits for entry
awokestillY2K: youll rage tho
awokestillY2K: if you're a madmax fan
fluffypony: cazalla: agreed
awokestillY2K: u seen it pony?
fluffypony: replaced our TV with a Canon WUX400ST
awokestillY2K: nevermind ill release the breeders
fluffypony: and got a Silver Ticket projector screen
awokestillY2K: not bothered
fluffypony: now there's no way I'm going to the movies again
awokestillY2K: i got stuck to the seat
awokestillY2K: waiting for 3d
awokestillY2K: oldman moved, tasty arrived
awokestillY2K: i dont see it
cazalla: can't see 3d.. took me something like 20 years to understand why i couldn't see those stereoscopic books as a kid too
awokestillY2K: its a schooner!
cazalla: ya drinking awokestillY2K ?
awokestillY2K: ^mallratz
cazalla: i'll take that as a yes (still sober this month)
awokestillY2K: im planning sober 2.0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17332 @ 0.00039868 = 6.9099 BTC [+]
cazalla: i'm thinking i'll refrain unless i make it myself.. have a guava here and in a few years time shahtoot mulberries should be big enough to make something
awokestillY2K: bats rape mine
cazalla: put up some netting
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjrf6vzrV6w
assbot: Awreeoh - Don't Get Deleted - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnl3ah )
cazalla: we had possums.. had
awokestillY2K: fuck that, gotta pull the cunts out, hendra
awokestillY2K: rabies too
awokestillY2K: how to solve possum?
cazalla: ask them nicely to leave?
awokestillY2K: whats the purple bin for?
cazalla: nfi
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W54z1Yvvtos
assbot: Coloured bins | Problems | Starts 9pm, Wednesday, 21 Nov 2012 on ABC1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnlm4X )
cazalla: aww shit mate gotta put the bins out
awokestillY2K: lol
awokestillY2K: u should hear my recycling bin
awokestillY2K: breaking glass
awokestillY2K: neighbours know whats going on like ur dicks on tumbler
cazalla: nah, that bouncing sound
awokestillY2K: shit dont break
cazalla: one for you awokestillY2K https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSiehK2asbI
assbot: #ProudToLove - Celebrating Marriage Equality and LGBT Pride Month - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnlEbO )
awokestillY2K: man i love rainbows as much as the next guy, but i like pussy
cazalla: how self absorbed can one be to make a coming out video where you don't really come out to your parents but just send them a link to a video
cazalla: !up awokestillY2K
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00040982 = 9.6513 BTC [+]
awokestillY2K: does anyone not read ass these days?
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_YSj9wyjQ
assbot: Snoop Dogg, Dr.Dre & Jewell - Just Dippin' - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnmBkr )
cazalla: awokestillY2K, http://8ch.net/b/res/3236027.html pic one
assbot: /b/ - Clothes on and off ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnn2Lu )
awokestillY2K: you want me to quote on areolae?
cazalla: whatever takes your fancy
awokestillY2K: quick glance i see nothing
cazalla: half these women have shaving rash mind you, guess noone told em about wax
awokestillY2K: theres ;;lasers now
awokestillY2K: big in milan
awokestillY2K: !g japan gorilla
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00041392 = 17.0121 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: damn this one used a broken bottle to shave http://8ch.net/b/src/1435255283858-2.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJnjEg )
cazalla: check the arms heh
cazalla: http://8ch.net/b/src/1435255745416-2.jpg hairy, like animal!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJnBem )
awokestillY2K: hey if you dont want a precise machete thats ur biz
cazalla: nothing like a bit of period on the thighs http://8ch.net/b/src/1435256482469-0.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJnOOH )
awokestillY2K: im orf to bali to buy cocaine from a north african and install the latest russian adobe update]
awokestillY2K: its all ruit, what else u got?
awokestillY2K: *ruin
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=815O6Qj2Nx8
assbot: South Pacific: Bali Hai - 1949, Martin & Pinza - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dno4Hx )
cazalla: ya know that ukrainian doll never came back
awokestillY2K: which one?
cazalla: mfc
awokestillY2K: wha?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29684 @ 0.0004134 = 12.2714 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 99 @ 0.054 = 5.346 BTC [-]
awokestillY2K: shes prolly making more elsewhere
awokestillY2K: aint no crime
cazalla: !up awokestillY2K
awokestillY2K: oh
cazalla: shame that nearly all of 'em don't give as much as a smile
awokestillY2K: sorry, thats on me
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2z9lkNn6zQ
assbot: Bali High OST - "Bali High" [Official Video] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnoD40 )
awokestillY2K: ^
cazalla: !up sinetek
awokestillY2K: !up sinetek
cazalla: ya know if you regged a fucking gpg key ya might be able to do that awokestillY2K
awokestillY2K: when eulora has instructions
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23989 @ 0.00041485 = 9.9518 BTC [+] {2}
awokestillY2K: whats ur story sinetek?
cazalla: awokestillY2K, it does
awokestillY2K: where?
cazalla: awokestillY2K, see it is already starting http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-27/us-supreme-court-ruling-same-sex-marriage-australia-debate-mps/6578058
assbot: US Supreme Court ruling in favour of same-sex marriage could influence debate in Australia, federal politicians say - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnp7Hv )
awokestillY2K: dafuq?
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Dsq41LY28
assbot: Apartment - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnpAJC )
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3NWOa6K7MI
assbot: Major Lazer & DJ Snake - Lean On (Feat. MØ) (Jonas Aden Remix) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnpLEL )
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqeW9_5kURI
assbot: Major Lazer & DJ Snake - Lean On (feat. MØ) (Official Music Video) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnq56y )
awokestillY2K: 0 princesses
lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Heiko ; ) || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=30064771079 (Heiko ; )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpoJ9K )
punkman: lots of empty ATMs from what I hear
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18689 @ 0.00040982 = 7.6591 BTC [-]
punkman: !up awokestillY2K
awokestillY2K: greek atms?
punkman: ye
punkman: also acquaintances told to come back monday when they tried to take out cash yesterday
punkman: before then announcement that is
punkman: *the
awokestillY2K: look on the bright side, youll prolly get cool aussie polymer notes u can swim wit
awokestillY2K: we're tight with the imf
punkman: gonna be a fun week I guess
awokestillY2K: !g red diamond
awokestillY2K: argyles autioning the reddest stone ever
awokestillY2K: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/photos-the-2015-argyle-pink-diamond-tender-2015-6 shes in fashion
assbot: PHOTOS: The 2015 Argyle pink diamond tender | Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1JppSy1 )
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNPA68htGxk
assbot: Suede - She's In Fashion - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JppUpM )
awokestillY2K: euro was a fucked idea from day 1
awokestillY2K: really what r u selling?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66000 @ 0.00041953 = 27.689 BTC [+] {5}
awokestillY2K: punkman might not care but erry useless cunt on the floor wants out
awokestillY2K: thats about right eh punk?
punkman: yeah everyone taking out their 500eur to keep under the mattress
awokestillY2K: meanwhile errone with a shed heres syntheticing diamonds
punkman: gonna be a great week for burglars
awokestillY2K: really?
punkman: well not hard to hide 10 bills, but I'm sure there'll be some jackpots
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNPA68htGxk
assbot: Suede - She's In Fashion - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG7QGZ )
awokestillY2K: wrong
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emutat3_IP0
assbot: John Farnham - Pressure Down - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG7TTm )
awokestillY2K: wronger
punkman: here ya go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nAH97GazGo
assbot: Σπύρος γραμμένος & χορωδία "αγάπη ρε+" Έπεσα απ' τα σύννεφα - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG7XlZ )
awokestillY2K: whats tyhis\?
awokestillY2K: tastes like lamb goat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 306 @ 0.00629999 = 1.9278 BTC [-]
awokestillY2K: where goat is best lamb,being most resourceful\
awokestillY2K: i only eat the cheese, but still
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00041665 = 9.1246 BTC [-]
punkman: !up awokestillY2K
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00039718 = 9.4727 BTC [-]
awokestillY2K: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1vxlr7_cypress-hill-rusko-feat-damian-marley-can-t-keep-me-down_music <<<flaggededest
assbot: Cypress Hill & Rusko feat Damian Marley "Can't Keep Me Down" - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG9DvN )
awokestillY2K: senn dogg left after this
awokestillY2K: do you even mine?
awokestillY2K: pankkake?
awokestillY2K: back pon a forum
awokestillY2K: u think we dont wake up and check github?
awokestillY2K: we need u bruz
awokestillY2K: whatever
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU769XX_dIQ
assbot: Nicki Minaj - Only (Lyric) ft. Drake, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RGavQY )
awokestillY2K: u need to make you a sword?
awokestillY2K: i think i owe u 0.5
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQBttKoetqo
assbot: paranoid black sabbath (lyrics included) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1fMDx5D )
punkman: sword or machete
awokestillY2K: machete dont text
awokestillY2K: and is heavy
awokestillY2K: fuck a gookface
awokestillY2K: gookface gets +5
awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Lft6EQh-Y
assbot: full metal jacket intro monologue - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RGbf8Q )
punkman: !up BtQqZrS6gLw
punkman: are those brainwallets
BtQqZrS6gLw: nah that kylie minogue circa '93\
BtQqZrS6gLw: 0 brain
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98758 @ 0.00039335 = 38.8465 BTC [-] {4}
BtQqZrS6gLw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHguy4xHGSg
assbot: Future - Move That Dope ft. Pharrell Williams, Pusha T - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpyPHC )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21762 @ 0.00039198 = 8.5303 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9588 @ 0.00039113 = 3.7502 BTC [-] {2}
BtQqZrS6gLw: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2t1kzo < buried to the bingoboingos
assbot: The Dukes of Hazzard S03E18 By-Line, Daisy Duke - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpzrgF )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00039587 = 4.7504 BTC [+]
BtQqZrS6gLw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8duRDsS8E
assbot: WOLF CREEK Trailer (HD) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpA4a3 )
BtQqZrS6gLw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yj2Gv2Zq8
assbot: Machete Dildo - You're a Cop (Anal Cunt Cover) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpAyNd )
BtQqZrS6gLw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5hA5EuwVfA
assbot: Machete Don't Text! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGVN5f )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00039587 = 1.0491 BTC [+]
punkman: !up doyouevenpan
doyouevenpan: machete being the motherfuckinest
doyouevenpan: put the fuck on a horse hell inver and ride pon the belly strap
punkman: http://hexatomium.github.io/2015/06/26/ms-very-quietly-adds-18-new-trusted-root-certs/ ☟︎
assbot: Microsoft quietly pushes 18 new trusted root certificates · HA ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpC3eh )
doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVfA9r-AVOg <this is gonna hurt
assbot: Daryl Braithwaite - One Summer - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpCfKu )
doyouevenpan: i challenge bb to karaoke this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwoK0u52Tw4
assbot: Kaoma - Lambada (HQ) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpCGEI )
doyouevenpan: better draw a line on fat hate
doyouevenpan: eureka!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00039443 = 8.8352 BTC [-]
doyouevenpan: u need a seamstress tape?
doyouevenpan: just go around!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35753 @ 0.00039112 = 13.9837 BTC [-]
doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSKJQ18ZoIA
assbot: Ritchie Valens - La Bamba - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGWXxH )
doyouevenpan: dh4
doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSuHVYv_dh4
assbot: Earache My Eye Metal - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGX4JE )
doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJW67QN24SA
assbot: Cheech & Chong - Earache My Eye - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpDUzT )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17985 @ 0.00040181 = 7.2266 BTC [+] {2}
doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alyx4QeRRdg < vuples
assbot: Cheech & Chong - Low Rider - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpEfme )
doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcmvwFcfWmY
assbot: Rockin' Robin (Original) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpEu0m )
doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IxMxZ6E0T4
assbot: Cheech and Chong - Me and my old lady - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGXsrL )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48000 @ 0.00039429 = 18.9259 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178993 << run moar winblowz! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 13:31:15; punkman: http://hexatomium.github.io/2015/06/26/ms-very-quietly-adds-18-new-trusted-root-certs/
punkman: (tm)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00039107 = 10.246 BTC [-]
decimation: asciilifeform: heres yer mandatory keys
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/protocol_8cpp.html << do you know of a way to constrain the width of the graphical diagrams ? (such that they might fit on a reasonable display...)
assbot: bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: bitcoin/src/protocol.cpp File Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1eP1XeR )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22680 @ 0.0004091 = 9.2784 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00040932 = 12.1977 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00040875 = 11.0363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46800 @ 0.00039999 = 18.7195 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41859 @ 0.00039894 = 16.6992 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://public.wsu.edu/~jackdoll/jak/comp/z80/z80p.htm << yes - computer!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1SSGb8f )
asciilifeform: (and is that a bagpipe ?!)
mats: hue hue
mats: four months of trading on mpex has turned 40btc into almost 80 ☟︎☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00039894 = 8.9363 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: mats beat my record, l0l
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23257 @ 0.00039894 = 9.2781 BTC [-]
asciilifeform shudders to think how much time he would blow on mpexing if he still had account
mats: it helps that i have a window open for this channel most of the day
asciilifeform: i think just about everybody here has a separate display panel for it...
asciilifeform does
chetty: me doesn't
asciilifeform: chetty doesn't need one, lives in the meat b-a
chetty: :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00039164 = 6.8341 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00040353 = 1.8966 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00040353 = 4.2572 BTC [+]
mod6: asciilifeform: hi, no unfortunately I end up doing a bunch of side-scrolling too.
mod6: when I get a chance, i'll see if there is anything to be done about it. (if anyone has any suggestions, let me know)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51800 @ 0.000392 = 20.3056 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37614 @ 0.00040103 = 15.0843 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2599 @ 0.00041272 = 1.0727 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3053 @ 0.00039618 = 1.2095 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15234 @ 0.00039618 = 6.0354 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29816 @ 0.00039119 = 11.6637 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9790544
assbot: Ask HN: Why don't tech companies build dorms on campus? | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1BWYWTZ )
asciilifeform: doesn't google corp. have'em ?
punkman: not sure
punkman: common in china though, works well for them
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-06-2015#1178678 << related to >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2014#749841 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 03:32:52; decimation: he has some interesting posts relating chinese history: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/giving-the-handle/
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2014 00:04:59; asciilifeform: pierce << ideal example of the animal described on one of mircea_popescu's essays - he could be packed into prison for life, any time, based on what's in his file. so he does as instructed.
asciilifeform: 'giving the handle' is how pedos came to play their seemingly disproportionate share in all american structures, from sport clubs to state governments
mats: hacker dorms is a common thing
mats: e.g. 'Workday'
asciilifeform: whassat
mats: software company that puts interns in such dorms for the summer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18401 @ 0.00041261 = 7.5924 BTC [+] {2}
lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; ) || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; ) ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1eKZkup )
mats: in exchange they get to put on their resume, 'Associate Software Engineer -- Workday, Inc'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00040851 = 10.2945 BTC [-] {2}
mats: i would not want to live and breathe work but to each their own
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24036 @ 0.00039194 = 9.4207 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37600 @ 0.00039194 = 14.7369 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 < hey congrats ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 15:57:03; mats: four months of trading on mpex has turned 40btc into almost 80
asciilifeform: mats: many of the arguments against 'google dorm' don't hold water. e.g., the current 'collect 200k/y salary, give 180k/y to housing racket' system is just as impoverishing; 'lose your job, lose your housing' is just as true now for the fools paying those 180k to live in auto range of palo alto etc.; the squalor is just the same in the palo alto 'efficiency' flat as in any dorm; and so forth
mats: its really not that much for housing
mats: you can rent 1br1ba with living room in santa clara for ~2500/mo
asciilifeform: mats: if you're willing to spend half the day in a car
mats: which is 25mins commute from e.g. infinity loop
mats: (former resident of cupertino here)
asciilifeform: there's gotta be a catch
mats: there is not
asciilifeform: tanstaafl (tm) (r)
mats: marginally more hispanics and crime but not noticeable
asciilifeform: mats: so how do you explain the astronomical real estate near the sv gas giants ?
mats: im not saying its not reasonable
mats: but service industry slaves do get by with living within driving distance and renting
asciilifeform: and cabbies spend 12h/day in car, what of it
mats: you won't get the lifestyle seen on HBO's Silicon Valley but it is workable
asciilifeform: l0l the folks in 'silicon valley' live in a flophouse
mats: i refer to kid being promoted beyond competence who buys yacht
asciilifeform: but yes, if the show were realistic they would spend most of each episode in traffic
asciilifeform: obligatory >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014#607598 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-04-2014 14:59:26; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok. considering the what/how debate as accepted foundation : at any time there's a number of turkeys and a number of engineers.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9204 @ 0.00039194 = 3.6074 BTC [-]
mats: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/apa/5090668562.html << condominiums
assbot: Unwind Better on the Balcony of This 1BR/1BA Apartment Today! ... ( http://bit.ly/1KhKJlB )
mats: heh, 645 sq ft
asciilifeform: bet it's got no dishwasher
asciilifeform: (pestilentially common problem where i live, on the other coast, also)
asciilifeform: sorta like having no toilet
asciilifeform: yes, you can live there...
mats: you have my condolences
jurov: as it happens... i have no dishwasher, too
asciilifeform: does jurov have dishes ? ☟︎
jurov: lol i do. but nothing that can't be washed in 5 minutes
jurov: and since there's pub with good food and kebap around the corner...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56650 @ 0.00039163 = 22.1858 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform used to do that
asciilifeform: jurov: the bleeding edge of this, as i understand, is jp, where you can live in a kind of 'coffin'
asciilifeform: looks sorta like the multi-'resident' mausoleums in b-a cemetery
asciilifeform: open vault, squeeze in, sleep (or watch movies on the little screen)
jurov: i see... but i kinda like to get served and meet neighbors in that pub
asciilifeform: well yes. sleep in coffin, then get up, pub.
jurov: yay!
jurov: when i got a window fixed some months ago, asked them to add external blinds
jurov: and i do use them to have darkness like in coffin :D
asciilifeform: got those here, works great
asciilifeform: except that sometimes forget to wake up ☟︎
jurov: ^that
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 248.86, Best ask: 248.87, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 248.87, 24 hour volume: 14381.80943877, 24 hour low: 241.45, 24 hour high: 249.77, 24 hour vwap: None
jurov: did xinhua say anything?
mats: no
asciilifeform: jurov: http://imgur.com/dGBgxvL << the tombs in question
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1KhLUl7 )
jurov: haha doesn't look very comfortable
asciilifeform: the ones for live customers in jp are a bit cushier iirc
mats: they prefer the term 'space pods'
jurov: and if, i'd prefer to get cremated every evening instead
asciilifeform: !b 6 ✂︎
assbot: Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3ZQWZTV.txt )
asciilifeform: phoenix hotel.
mats:  ;;calc [ticker --currency CNY --last]/[ticker --currency USD --last]
mats: ;;calc [ticker --currency CNY --last]/[ticker --currency USD --last]
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
mats: useless
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00039778 = 7.9158 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.0004012 = 13.8013 BTC [+]
shinohai: !up TRS80`
shinohai: $fap.lesbian
TRS80`: shinohai: 2013-03-29T12:00:00+0000: Nasty Lesbian Threesome <http://galleries.badlesbiangirls.com/photos/190/?t1/pps=house>
shinohai: $part
lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=11 (Trustcenter_EU ; )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpoJ9K )
punkman: lots of germans eh
asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes can haz the url of phuctored key preserved in bot ? ty ☟︎
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: @ asciilifeform I made a phuctored command for my bot so I can always see the latest keys
scoopbot_revived: Long Term Update https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2015/06/27/long-term-update-8/
jurov: asciilifeform stuff like this would deserve link shortener http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F23D7F58ABF380DED38B90B7A863487995DE825B7123B745156A8C49D63469DE#6A592C27FA423D7611456BE2AB693337463EA07754CAA07957D6AFCFA63984E2 ☟︎
assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1KhPjQX )
shinohai: $phuctor 5
shinohai: well
shinohai: $part
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60676 @ 0.00039062 = 23.7013 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: Hmmm. I think I will give that a shot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65174 @ 0.00038989 = 25.4107 BTC [-] {2}
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 15:57:03; mats: four months of trading on mpex has turned 40btc into almost 80
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179073 << hey could it link to the actual key page rather than the rss ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 18:08:28; lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; ) || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; )
asciilifeform asked this today..
mircea_popescu: ah.
mircea_popescu: and in other news... 73.
mircea_popescu: Trustcenter_EU <trust@mch.sbs.de>; among the lulziest.
asciilifeform: thrustcenter
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179158 << it's a hash. and chopping hashes is quite possibly how we ended up on planet with phuctorable keys in the first place! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 20:07:59; jurov: asciilifeform stuff like this would deserve link shortener http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F23D7F58ABF380DED38B90B7A863487995DE825B7123B745156A8C49D63469DE#6A592C27FA423D7611456BE2AB693337463EA07754CAA07957D6AFCFA63984E2
jurov: i see. full hashes should be used everywhere. except for btc-dev patches ;D
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: not like anyon ahahahaha zing
mircea_popescu: not like anyone types those by hand or tries to memorize them jurov
mircea_popescu: what's the actual ux case for shortening it.
jurov: btw, have you seen my conclusion that gpg signature does not contain anything useful?
asciilifeform: jurov: yes!
asciilifeform: jurov: you were quite right, it won't do, and i oughta have remembered this factoid
mircea_popescu: assbot: Unwind Better on the Balcony of This 1BR/1BA Apartment Today! <<< ahahaha omfg.
asciilifeform: but munged filenames still stink
mircea_popescu: i'd have so much trouble paying more than 4, maaaaybe 500 bucks for something like that....
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 500 buys a doghouse here. don't even want to imagine what it buys on west coast usa
jurov: well. i am sending hashes in headers too, but getting anyone to use them...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179112 << don't be a noob. dishes are merely the expansion of an invisible slave empire. if you have jets you better have slave hands to go to the farmer market, and to fill the dishes, anbd to wash the dishes. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 18:56:30; asciilifeform: does jurov have dishes ?
mircea_popescu: jurov i suspect trhat is the correct approach : add to the header space.
asciilifeform: whatever happened to the dark future of robot slaves
mircea_popescu: fuck that.
mircea_popescu: figuratively speaking.
asciilifeform: see, i'm one of those weirdos who keeps, for instance, a computerized vacuum cleaner
asciilifeform: because 1) no i won't do it with bare hands 2) yes, could pay people, but i ~fucking hate people~
mircea_popescu: in other news, omfg bitcoind is a hog.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which one ?
mircea_popescu: the stock one.
mircea_popescu: we fucking forget. omfg the thing... no wonder nobody runs it. i doubt very much it can be run. like, at all.
asciilifeform: (yes, they're all porcine, but which hog? the little piglet, the muscular european boar, or the half-tonne monster fucked on midwest usa farms ..?)
mircea_popescu: i am looking at 10!!111 load on a 8 cpu, 32 gb raid ssd machine.
asciilifeform: it doesn't parallelize
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu oughtaknowthat
mircea_popescu: the cpu utilization is actually low, but the load is immense because i dunno wtf it does but something stupid.
asciilifeform: i/o
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, it's multithreaded doesn't parallelize :D
mircea_popescu: it's from teh future.
asciilifeform: there's precisely 1 thread that does actual werk
asciilifeform: (if you like thinking about scary dangerous forkz, picture changing this!)
jurov: mircea_popescu: did you publish your addy? it may be an attack
mircea_popescu: this is an unadvertised test run of various releases.
jurov: my 0.10 is chugging around on celeron+5400rpm spinning rot okay
mircea_popescu: the advertised seeder has been working more or less ok - it's not being attacked more than is implicit in the protocol lol.
mircea_popescu: something to the tune of 30ish connections, which seems reasonable for a day old peer.
jurov: o it still syncs?
jurov: lol no it actually died
jurov: 2015-06-27 19:30:42 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : nonstandard transaction: dust
jurov: 2015-06-27 19:30:48 ERROR: ReadBlockFromDisk : OpenBlockFile failed
jurov: ^last log before croaking
asciilifeform: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/tiny/tinyterminal.html << archaeological interest
assbot: Smallest 80x25 PC display for less than $20 and other tiny screens ... ( http://bit.ly/1LuZkLq )
mircea_popescu: jurov so wait, is this your 0.10 that was working ok ?
jurov: was.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "oh my computer is working fine with bitcoind stopped on it"
mircea_popescu: as an absolute prerequisite to any sort of block increase we ABSOLUTELY MUST clean up these shit-stables
jurov: it ran for months till hour and half ago
jurov: watching it restart...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw in the spirit of the "connect" issue : having public and private data separate is iirc not supported STILL. you gotta keep the wallet.dat in same place you keep the blockchain. gold help you if you want it encrypted.
asciilifeform: wallet has to be sawn off as discussed in the past
mircea_popescu: this without going into why the wallet.dat, after being plaintext for a coupla years, was only half-ass encryupted.
scoopbot_revived: A second crack at that scary thing. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/27/a-second-crack-at-that-scary-thing/
asciilifeform: anything short of that is waste of time
asciilifeform: (wallet on separate box, z80 if you like, etc)
mircea_popescu: wasn't trying to write policy, just bemoan existing insanity.
asciilifeform: if you just want it in some other dir, symlink...
mircea_popescu: i just amply dislike ~the design~ of it.
asciilifeform: not even sure what there is to ~like~ in the design
asciilifeform: it successfully passes for microshit product, stylistically (and in many ways functionally)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179126 << i have them too, the result is that i sometimes forget to sleep./ ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 19:04:04; asciilifeform: except that sometimes forget to wake up
asciilifeform: same effect here.
asciilifeform: and i don't have a clock (other than emacs clock) in the room either
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ahaha if it turns out this was actually written by poor ms indian slavebois, who kept anon simply because of the draconing IP contracts thery had signed...
asciilifeform: or buried alive with the thing
asciilifeform: egyptian-style
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a wonder i even managed to make the conference at all. i haven't had a watch or aty allcared about time in a decade.
mircea_popescu: at some point travelling i was like "fuck it, WHO CARES what time they thinkg it is."
asciilifeform: wat, mircea_popescu doesn't have a girl follow him around imitating clock hands with arms, legs...?!
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: there is a "no undies - i wanna be able to fondle your cunt" rule, but s'about all.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i have nfi what you're proposing, but my thinking is that it's more expensive and less productive to think proactively rather than reactively.
mircea_popescu: once a bot or w/e goes off, we see what we do. before, we don't give a shit.
asciilifeform mumbles something about parachutes
mircea_popescu: this of course is painful for every good white boy to hear, as it's strictly antipattern and countercultural,
mircea_popescu: and im sure it exactly - irritates alf's parachutes.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, there is great benefit to being antipattern countercultural when being a guerilla.
asciilifeform: of course folks often forget the other thing about the parachute thing - in sov army, they usedta make you sign it, 'i folded this parachute myself. signed, pvt. schmuck'
mircea_popescu: if it made sense to not be thus, you couldn't be, ~COULD NOT BE~ a guerilla if you wanted to
mircea_popescu: which is why gi joe is so useless in the field.
mircea_popescu: other than that, published code is a good idea, sure. but also - anything is its maker property, and the people in question makin things can best decide what to do with it.
asciilifeform: phun phakt: my father was conscripted into a parachutist regiment. and by that time (late '60s) schmucks were no longer! permitted to fold their own.
asciilifeform: sergeant folded.
mircea_popescu: i think most everyone's using github or w/e - but it wouldn't maybe be such a bad idea to start putting deeds out with the code bundles. with instructions. "run this so and so"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform heh
asciilifeform: turned out, the 'fold your own' thing resulted in too many (from pov of command) splats.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: deeds with code bundles and instructions makes sense.
pete_dushenski: and i have no qualms with reacting to circumstance, i'm more getting at : what's to be done with unassigned functions
mircea_popescu: pick a gun pick a post.
mircea_popescu: how every revolutionary war was ever won.
pete_dushenski: pick a gun, pick a post ? not familiar with this one
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: here's an unassigned gun for some eager fella: crap out an ibmpc buildroot for therealbitcoin. as in, something one could throw in the iso slot at a datacentre
mircea_popescu: a loosely maintained list of posts, and a loosely maintained list of "don't shoot that way dummy" makes sense, but s'about all.
asciilifeform: ideally, no install, just finds a block device and shits blockchain to it
asciilifeform: without asking questions
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: nvm, got the post-gun thing now
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know this isn't a random process. what makes you think it's for him ?
asciilifeform: it isn't
asciilifeform: just example!
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: of an empty post
mircea_popescu: atm the entry level thing for coders is, "follow the pogo thing, build along, test cases etc". for non-coders is, qntra.
mircea_popescu: for artists i suppose it's eulora work etc. there's really no shortage o shit to do.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i keep asking people "who are you". nobody seems to ever be anyone, which is odd, but anyway.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the ibmpc buildroot sounds like a spec for the 'trilema jobs board'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is really asking'em 'кто ты по жизни'
mircea_popescu: aye.
asciilifeform: and they don't feel like answering, so we can sorta guess!
mircea_popescu: hehe wouldn't go that far
mircea_popescu: "the demands of meatspace readily overwhelm the demands of #bitcoin-assets" << this is everyone's own measure to measure.
asciilifeform: i propose the standard unit of measure be '1 moiety'
pete_dushenski: insert "may" in there, mentally
asciilifeform: large unit, like farad
mircea_popescu: i don't see why i'd want to have an equivalent of the mcd supervisor, calling people at home to remind them they work.
mircea_popescu: just not what this thing's supposed to be, in my dreams.
pete_dushenski: well, people still need incentives
pete_dushenski: sometimes financial, sometimes honourary, sometimes a million other things in a million other ways
mircea_popescu: yes, but the deliberate design of incentive structures is a bad idea. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: because the only thing it does is select for and breed rats.
mircea_popescu: much like tests in school select for and breed test takers.
pete_dushenski: hm. i have more mulling to do on the topic, it seems.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, people also need self-esteem. i'm not about to "provide" it for them, in vacu-sealed packages. and they need to hunt, which does not reduce to "i'ma let a half dozen naked girlies loose in their room see what happens". that's how rich people destroy their children.
pete_dushenski: is providing something to hunt, or the directions to the hunting field, not 'incentive structure' ?
mircea_popescu: seems you've fucked that hole into some looseness by now...
asciilifeform: didn't mircea_popescu teach us that holes work-anneal ?
mircea_popescu: real ones, yes.
asciilifeform: (like aluminum)
mircea_popescu: kinda how you know if you're fucking live or plastic.
mircea_popescu: (btw - never ask virgin to clamp down on you. it's a little discussed fact that vast majority of penis captivus cases come out of something lik that)
asciilifeform never saw anything like solid evidence that said effect actually exists in man
mircea_popescu: (because of the tearing, vagal never innervation makes the smooth muscles over-reactive)
mircea_popescu: does, does.
mircea_popescu: ;;google vaginismus
gribble: Vaginismus: Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment - WebMD: <http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/vaginismus-causes-symptoms-treatments>; Vaginismus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginismus>; When Sex Hurts – Vaginismus - SOGC: <http://sogc.org/publications/when-sex-hurts-vaginismus/>
asciilifeform: ^ not same as captivus
mircea_popescu: but very related. a spasm is always at the root of both
mircea_popescu: think of pc as "vaginismus that declared while guy was inside"
asciilifeform: well yes, this is the theory
mircea_popescu: (amusingly enough, romanian even has expression to describe this in man - "s-or catelit" ie, they've doggied themselves)
asciilifeform: but evidence for actual case of 'stuck' (in man, not dog) is approx. on par with evidence for loch ness dinosaur
mircea_popescu: you can't get stuck in dog.
mircea_popescu: missing some anatomy.
asciilifeform: dog in dog
mircea_popescu: ah
asciilifeform: (where this is sop)
mircea_popescu: anyway, nah, it happens.
mircea_popescu: dja regard priapismus in same light incidentally ?
asciilifeform: nah that one's bog-simple anatomically
asciilifeform: and pestilentially common
mircea_popescu: aha. same principle tho.
mircea_popescu: innervation driven muscular spasms blocks blood egress
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mircea_popescu: ftr, there is no serious evidence as to the exact fisiology of vaginismus either.
mircea_popescu: just accepted.
mircea_popescu: The Most Serene Republic Of~ << this sounds great i gotta say.
pete_dushenski: twas a mighty invention, that.
asciilifeform owns a book with title 'the of' on the spine
mircea_popescu: "I am Hilde, from the Most Serene Republic of Tilde"
pete_dushenski: sounds blonde
asciilifeform: hilde, the she-wolf of tildeschwitz
mircea_popescu: ahaha
mircea_popescu: totally. tildeschwitz.
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asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motivation.html << re: article - see also.
assbot: Studies Find Reward Often No Motivator - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation ... ( http://bit.ly/1fWBSKT )
mircea_popescu: rewards work well if they're genuine.
pete_dushenski reading
jurov: haha, so far "eulora client hacker" positions were filled quickest
mircea_popescu: which is to say : come from things not people.
jurov: dunno about reward there
asciilifeform: genuine in the sense that 'i killed this bison myself'
mircea_popescu: jurov you can fly!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly.
mircea_popescu: the bison - genuinely died.
asciilifeform: and tasty
mircea_popescu: how tasty it is never amounts to much impediment.
asciilifeform: well, at least rudimentarily edible
mircea_popescu: cum's the tastiest thing i nature from what i hear, nobody hunts the cock.
punkman: I trimmed the bison's butthairs, but they grew back.
mircea_popescu: actually... nevermind. my burgeois mentality betrays me.,
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jurov: orly, nobody hunts the cocks?
jurov: scientia sciolorum est mixta ignorantia
jurov: (just some snippet i found today, might be vaguely related, but smells by lingua latina canina)
jurov: https://lurkmore.to/Lingua_latina_non_penis_canina lmao ☟︎
assbot: Lingua latina non penis canina — Lurkmore ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpchbL )
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jurov: my favourite motto was lately "Historia meretrix vitae" .. on seeing these examples I'm thinking how to get it more...er.. penetrating
mircea_popescu: lol
pete_dushenski: https://www.google.ca/finance?q=SHA%3A000001&ei=_R6PVaHrOoWo2AaA5YPYDw << shanghai composite index taking a tumble of late.
assbot: SSE Composite Index: SHA:000001 quotes & news – Google Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpeaoQ )
pete_dushenski: also, google finance is as bad as gbtc on otcmarkets : "52 week 1,844.09 - 4,526.92" when peak is clearly 5166 on june 12
pete_dushenski: how hard it this shit ?
pete_dushenski: either way, an *index* losing 19% in two weeks is 2008-level of panic
jurov: SHA got cracked?
williamdunne: Down a flight of stairs
mats: http://log.b-a.link/?date=27-06-2015#1179167 << ?
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 20:39:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist.
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1176379 << I win ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 17:05:14; mircea_popescu: <danielpbarron> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1174811 << ya << shit, there go my ocr skills!
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punkman: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Want-a-shorter-commute-Pay-900-to-live-in-a-6349066.php
assbot: Want a shorter commute? Pay $900 a month to live in a tent near Google - SFGate ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpfbx8 )
asciilifeform: ^ not tent
asciilifeform: scam.
asciilifeform: or hm, just irrelevant photo
asciilifeform: 'Rented a tent, a tent, a tent; / Rented a tent, a tent, a tent. / Rented a tent! / Rented a tent! / Rented a, rented a tent.' -- k. vonnegut. 'sirens of titan' (1959)
pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.3, Best ask: 251.31, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 251.32, 24 hour volume: 18319.32232325, 24 hour low: 242.6, 24 hour high: 251.77, 24 hour vwap: None
asciilifeform: google folks should prepare for the 5000/mo tents.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46550 @ 0.00041582 = 19.3564 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: because market!
asciilifeform: nobody cancelled marketz!
asciilifeform: that they aren't breathing $5/litre air is only a matter of technological limitations.
asciilifeform: when they can - will.
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jurov: free daily cremations!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.00039409 = 13.1429 BTC [-] {2}
williamdunne: Any speculation on what's going to happen with Greece in the coming years then?
williamdunne: Massive decline or outright collapse, followed by the rise of a Nazi party or similar?
jurov: preposterous prosperity!
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179302 << it certainly leads to, how shall i put it, "wordiness" on qntra. certainly not all the time, but that's the temptation. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 21:21:25; mircea_popescu: yes, but the deliberate design of incentive structures is a bad idea.
trinque: pete_dushenski: part of the answer to the question of making the republic's bot services fault tolerant is getting them within a damn wotnet
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pete_dushenski: how do you mean ?
trinque: well, suppose for example someone hates freedom and steals deedbot.org from me
cazalla: pete_dushenski, be specific because i go so far as to exclude the monthly reports from the word counts
pete_dushenski: trinque: go on...
asciilifeform: trinque: wotnet still made of people
trinque: from within the wotnet I may (depending on its design) be able to explicitly delegate the hosting task to some other trusted party should I be absent
pete_dushenski: cazalla: mostly bb's run-on redundancies.
pete_dushenski: cazalla: i have no problem with network diff posts btw
trinque: asciilifeform: yes but not made of DNS necessarily, or any particular IP
cazalla: i really don't think he does that in order to scoop up a few additional shares though
mircea_popescu: williamdunne no dude. greece has the african scam down pat.
mircea_popescu: it's going to simply leech money off a different husband
mircea_popescu: prolly, russia.
williamdunne: Russia too broke, no?
williamdunne: Maybe some Greek princes will emerge
mircea_popescu: when did that happen ?
trinque: they've got craploads of natural resources in their wallet aside from other things
trinque: broke how?
pete_dushenski: cazalla: the incentive is there is all, hard to tease out the psychology past that
mircea_popescu: the greeks have exactly zero incentive to do anything other than "housewife" and haven't, for ~2300 years now.
mircea_popescu: it's not changing./
pete_dushenski: cazalla: it also encourages more frequent posting and more in-depth research, so i'm not saying it's an unreasonable trade-off
williamdunne: trinque: Thought I'd read something about them not being willing to do so, can't find it now though so probably the effects of alcohol
mircea_popescu: spend persia's money, spend rome's money, spend turks money, spend british money, spend usian money, they will spend someone else's money.
pete_dushenski: cazalla: just that it's a function of 'inherently bad' incentive structures
trinque: williamdunne | Maybe some Greek princes will emerge << how bout greek welfare queens?
trinque: wahaha
mircea_popescu: italians only woke up to the model a half millenium later, but basically doing the same.
williamdunne: trinque: How can that emerge? Already exists nope?
trinque: is joke comrade
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: americans will be next... in like 3 centuries
mircea_popescu: Comrade Joke would be an excellent idea for a webcomic
mircea_popescu: set in a faux soviet russia very much like present day us
mircea_popescu: ends up in troubles.
trinque: heh I'd read that
mircea_popescu: me2.
mircea_popescu: there, stuff for people to do. lol.
mircea_popescu: the chan is REPLETE with shit to do.
pete_dushenski: ha!
pete_dushenski: just needs moar people ;)
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski as an exercise for you : what is the difference between the disruption caused by the absence of the comrade joke webcomic, which nobody has started yet, and the disruption caused by the absence of x service, which equally doesn't exist but at some point did ?
mircea_popescu: same thing, it'd seem. "our enemies", ie, sloth and stupidity, have disrupted our webcomic. LET US TAKE MEASURES!11
williamdunne: Can't miss what you don't know?
asciilifeform is rather perplexed. who, exactly, is lacking for 'what to do' ?
mircea_popescu: what measures could they be ? shift the active from this to that, therefore disrupting this now ?
asciilifeform: there is so much 'to do' that you could eat with arse!
mircea_popescu: williamdunne oh but i can.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nonstandard stuff is nonstandard, disruption is disruption. the bitcoin (tmsr~) management model is simply difficult to grok
mircea_popescu: much like bitcoin finance is so slippery, even for the best financial minds.
mircea_popescu: they just break so irrationally with the past.
mircea_popescu: not unlike trying to approximate pi on the basis of fortran four.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol this break is exactly the point i'm making on my 'second crack' update
trinque: man I kinda like that... putting tasks which need done in terms of that which they deprive the republic
trinque: I suppose I'm sentimental
mircea_popescu: trinque just as a mental exercise.
mircea_popescu: to encourage people not to drive themselves mad.
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/27/a-second-crack-at-that-scary-thing/ << aaaand updated.
assbot: A second crack at that scary thing. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHJY0p )
mircea_popescu: i am kinda amused by pete's fundamentally tragic figure, btw.
mircea_popescu: he writes these posts in the full knowledge that they'll be like... "NONE OF YOUR DIGITS ARE RIGHT MATE!!!. it's not 4, it's 3. not .0 but .1. not .x0 but .x4. not .xx0 but .xx1. not .xxx0 but .xxx5. etc.
mircea_popescu: "your approximation of pi fails on every single point!111"
mircea_popescu: "i'm trying to do it with integers!"
mircea_popescu: "tough."
pete_dushenski: a poet is me.
pete_dushenski: one who enjoys making a public hash of things, just to let them breathe, then correct
pete_dushenski: it's how i learn, i guess.
pete_dushenski: hopefully others learning alongside !
trinque: yeah keep 'em coming
pete_dushenski: there has to be someone halfway up mt sinai, playing broken telephone between moses and the golden calf lovers.
pete_dushenski: "that's not what i said you idjit !" "oh, my bad, let me try again !" "that's a bit better !"
trinque: I wouldn't be a common lisp programmer by now if I hadn't aired a bunch of idiotic thoughts of my own on programming in public.
jurov: mircea_popescu: another 0.9.1 runs fine for months, only with "errors" : "Warning: This version is obsolete, upgrade required!"
jurov: not sure when they 'cated the warning
trinque: asciilifeform: had a thought earlier driving around re: your observation that there are lisps in many fields: a high water mark reached, then from which retreated.
pete_dushenski: trinque: gotta find the boundaries of the glass jar by ramming into it head-first
asciilifeform: jurov: i spoke of this earlier. it isn't a gavinsignal in the usual sense, but is produced by the crud where version numbers in incoming messages are averaged and compared
trinque: I recall someone making the point that there can be greater distance between men than men and animals
asciilifeform: jurov: it isn't in therealbitcoin
trinque: lisps must occur where there were men orders of magnitude better than their contemporaries, such that the contemporaries barely had any idea what they were doing there
cazalla: jurov, those warnings are the fucking things i've been getting every 2-3 weeks for months
trinque: so they continued on and eventually engulfed the subject in their own shit
trinque: that to me clearly points out the role of power in human life
trinque: to *prevent* that from happening.
asciilifeform: trinque: actually 'lisps' happen because the alternative would be a civilization that doesn't leak. and we don't have one of those to kick around
asciilifeform: just as the slipless ratchet does not exist (and physically cannot. see feynman's perpetuum mobile)
trinque: I don't follow "doesn't leak"
asciilifeform: i.e. forget things
asciilifeform: e.g., archimedes had basic integral calculus
asciilifeform: but then went away for a while.
trinque: probably not enough people got it when it first appeared?
trinque: I recall some theory that this happened with the pyramids
asciilifeform: trinque: 'wanting' wasn't enough in the age of hand-copied text
trinque: there were earlier egyptians supposedly that knew how to make the things, then there were later egyptians that basically squatted on what was built before, having no idea how it got there
asciilifeform: trinque: the ~other~ egyptians (today's) have zero to do with the folks who built pyramids
pete_dushenski: alrighty, time to go run off all this ice cream i've been tragically eating. a la prochaine !
trinque: asciilifeform: isn't this "leaking" more something like not having enough vessels to preserve it?
trinque: someone towering comes along and he knows how to do X; yet without enough others that understood him, it'd make sense that the knowledge ends up lost
asciilifeform: trinque is still thinking in his modern box where preserving things is easy, cheap, and something folks are generally fond of doing
trinque: perhaps
trinque: the vessels I meant were human heads
trinque: I've heard it said that were the US to want to repeat Apollo, they'd have to practically start from scratch, as nearly everyone who had mastery over the processes used before are now dead
mircea_popescu: jurov lawl errors.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i find the proposition that "version numbers" are any sort of program signal utterly retarded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: write to gavin not me, l0l
mircea_popescu: it's basically an implementation of racism. the presuposition being that the color of the skin conveniently summarizes the abilities of the thing contained in that skin
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> trinque: actually 'lisps' happen because the alternative would be a civilization that doesn't leak. and we don't have one of those to kick around << amusingly enough, re the earlier dog discussion : dog cunt seals, for this reason.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what a civilisation of dogs would be like.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: vernor vinge's 'fire upon the deep' had just this
mircea_popescu: oh ?
asciilifeform: it was lulzy
asciilifeform: (had many lulz, not just this)
mircea_popescu: i am apparently unfamiliar with the sfs of your home world.
asciilifeform: that one's american
asciilifeform: ultra-famous.
asciilifeform: (and the ru translation is even better than original imho)
mircea_popescu: "The recognition that rewards can have counter-productive effects is based on a variety of studies," << it is strictly based on a felonious substitution. it is exactly like saying "sex can be unpleasant for women" on the basis of the sex we practice being very violent rape.
mircea_popescu: the shit the puritan us does for "rewards" is NOT the statu quo. it is just the retarded, intellectually bankrupt, morally offensive charicature of the world the usian puritans came up with.
asciilifeform: hey, engineering constraint. just like sex in afghan means 'with donkey'
asciilifeform: to 1st approx.
mircea_popescu: so no. rewards reward. being associated with the refuse of white civilisation does neither reduce to that, nor stand for it, nor is a basis of a conclusion. of course nobody sane or thinking wishes to be associated with the filth.
mircea_popescu: just like i wouldn't take a nobel on the basis that i do not wish to have the shiot they gave obama.
mircea_popescu: "oh, recognition has ocunter-productive effects". no. perelman rejected the recognition you were offering BECAUSE IT CAME FROM YOU
mircea_popescu: not "because it was recognition full stop".
mircea_popescu: and no, promises to pay from josh garza are not bitcoin
mircea_popescu: and no, the "opinions" of tim swanson are NOT opinions. because no wot. and so fucking on.
mircea_popescu: the source matters first and foremost. just like you cant have "a message" without first having the key to decrypt the asc with
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