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mircea_popescu: decimation:
usg is the unintentional beneficiary of a great deal of "I want to make a difference" altruism << so no, it's not altruism. unrelated to that, there's a lot of "
usg is the only obvious recipient for a bunch of faking of the <i want to not have sex but for everyone in school to think i do> sort."
mircea_popescu: decimation: what I find inexplicable is that you find folks in the us who absolutely hate everything about
usg policies, in terms of how it mismanages wealth, fails to jail criminals, etc, and yet are willing to serve the military side <<< similarly, the wild animals that hate everything about the government will still traipse around on "government property"
decimation: sabu was a puerto rican - an island that raises living off
usg largess to an art form
decimation: apparently sabu of anonymous was living in a
usg welfare apartment
decimation: its clients all were all arms of
usg, but it wasn't directly supported by
usg decimation: yeah makes sense. intel, being of silicon valley, was always a little more insulated from
usg decimation:
usg is the unintentional beneficiary of a great deal of "I want to make a difference" altruism
decimation: what I find inexplicable is that you find folks in the us who absolutely hate everything about
usg policies, in terms of how it mismanages wealth, fails to jail criminals, etc, and yet are willing to serve the military side
decimation: I think
usg inspires a fair amount of zealotry actually
decimation:
usg asks so many questions, doesn't understand the answers...
mircea_popescu: jurov: redhat would be in a position to do it << redhat is a
usg subcontractor. this is like saying goldman sachs is in a position to break the aml/kyc bullshit ring.
jurov: asciilifeform: me too. but that's the
usg-approved look
decimation: whereas most users of mathematica probably go out of their way (rejecting alternatives) to buy a license (using
usg's money of course)
decimation: zooming out further, probably more than 90% of the revenue for wolfram comes from
usg ben_vulpes: yeah, except for the terrifying
usg war machine.
mircea_popescu: oh i totally want to pay something to read how nyt has rewritten the official
usg talking points this week.
mircea_popescu: what's next, the ridiculously impotent attempt of teh
usg best and brightest on freenode too ?
decimation: mircea_popescu: Your "a woman's story" link is a nice story, but it does not present a picture of
usg employment law today.
mircea_popescu: business partners with the
usg, god help us. what will fiction produce next, the harem of wolves, flying to the moon on own farts, mind boggles.
mats_cd03: im not laughing. i served, once, in
usg war machine.
mircea_popescu: that may explain how we ended up with the current
usg.
decimation: ultimately they are all patrons of
usg and its idiotic currency meddling
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not the same pressures. i meant
usg specifically.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: currency can survive about five minutes with a dead
usg << more complicated. reichsmark outlived reich by a few years (until occupying armies got their shit together) << didn't roman coinage remain in some limited use into the middle ages because of lack of alternative?
decimation: dead
usg << I find it amusing that folks like the20year think that owning some raw land is a defense against such cataclysms
mircea_popescu: ugs can survive a coupla weeks with a dead currency ; currency can survive about five minutes with a dead
usg on whose faith and credit it is based.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: its okay, i have faith the
usg will mismanage itself into oblivion long before the dollar fails from due course << this is like hoping the heart will cease functioning long before the liver gives in. in reality, they're so interconnected their demise is a cvasi-simultaneous event willy-nilly.
mats_cd03: although islands are not particularly good for hiding from
usg.
mats_cd03: its okay, i have faith the
usg will mismanage itself into oblivion long before the dollar fails from due course
decimation: The problem that
usg has is that they would have to get china to buy into whatever 'secure computing' solution they want to push
kakobrekla: []bot> Bet placed: 250 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment"
http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 44(Y):56(N) by coin, 60(Y):40(N) by weight. Total bet: 2566.68146022 BTC. Current weight: 44,220. <
usg found more coin in the couch?
The20YearIRCloud: and back then the
USG had very, very little involvement in the market
decimation: also the market is extremely distorted by
USG, which is run by real estate agents and lawyers, who all want to get their piece of the pie
decimation: ben_vulpes: don't forget the
usg 'subsidy' of mortgages
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform engineering panics are however great. as far as the
usg is concerned, they're cannibalistic
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2014 15:50:00; asciilifeform: had a thought.
usg's btc price dampener strategy has no clear endgame - the 'ethereum' thing will carry on while the usd printing press runs, because it stands to reason they are running both the sell and -buy- ends of the machine. 'arse-mouth system.'
mircea_popescu: kinda why the entire "public auction of btc" thing turned into such an embarassment for the
usg.
mircea_popescu: decimation boeing was going to get
usg funds one way or another.
decimation: it's some other unit of
usg doing spending money it doesn't have
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There probably a label used for that condition somewhere in the
USG, something as an analogue to the soviet "Slowly Progressing Schizophrenia"
mircea_popescu: it died for the exact reason the
usg will die, no matter how it packages itself, no matter how it argues for its own goodness.
mircea_popescu: i am not willing to allow the "feeling
usg-y, feeling fiat-y" package no matter the cost.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i was using the term people in the limited sense of "people in bitcoin", not in the general sense of "mouthbreather kept on life support by
usg"
ben_vulpes: "shit he's in" << what shit is this? bed with the
USG?
mircea_popescu: nobdy here gives a shit, on account of us being both richer and more powerful than the
usg.
decimation: but you are making your own herbal remedies? what would
usg have to say on the subject?
decimation: asciilifeform: but you can make 10 ml of ethanol for personal use.
usg is generous!
ziggla: yes, it is resolvable. i wish the
USG would just cooperate so we can know
ziggla: sorry folks, this bet is unresolvable.
usg won't release the info. it has been 3 months. we will refund the bets.
ThickAsThieves:
USG isnt really giving info feedback on bitcoin anything
ziggla: seems easiest to not play oracle if you don't have to make any decisions about your thoughts of the
usg if the bet is just cancelled
mircea_popescu: irrespective of what the
usg may falsely or accurately claim afterwards.
mircea_popescu: a that sore spot. well ideally we find out once the
usg finally and publicly admits to having been owned, painfully and humiliatingly.
mircea_popescu: lmao security concerns indeed. "if anyone not working for the
usg found out what we do in thhis here so called "courthouse" they'd prolly set us all on fire"
ThickAsThieves: as in if bf and btct werent shut down by
USG, the lie may have played out to less loss
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> kolinko no. the system can break itself, too. it doesn't need a mustachioed antropomorphised enemy. /// glad to see you say so, it's a point often missed in many circumstances. for example, some want to paint
USG as a hyper conspiracy and assume all its evil/scammy actions are fully intentional. More likely, it just evolved to be a broken shit in all corners of its
decimation: I suspect that the fantasy-plans for "contingency
usg" would be a hilarious read
decimation: chalbersma: denver would be logical. my point is that I suspect that
usg employees are paid $$$ to write fantasy
chalbersma: Plus the
usg couldn't get any worse if it was toking up. :)
decimation: I was thinking to myself this evening: what if Washington DC were washed into the sea tomorrow?
usg's contingency plans would probably be to move the government west, in the middle of the kulaks they have been harassing for decades. I don't think that 'contingency
usg' would survive as an entity that we would recognize.