mike_c: kakobrekla: is toshi what was/is powering blockr?
kakobrekla: mike_c nope
mircea_popescu: soo, i went to check out this bitcoin embassy thing
mircea_popescu: anyone want to see pictures ?
BingoBoingo: Sure, isn't this what Trilema's for?
mircea_popescu: jurov> you see for youself what happened to it anyway. << it took over and set the course of computer history ?
jurov: yes. and everyone hates it
BingoBoingo: https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Fan_death
assbot: Fan death - Encyclopedia Dramatica
mircea_popescu: lol the american svab. not bad.
asciilifeform: jurov: we had 'prussian' roaches.
mircea_popescu: jurov not being hated is a slave's aspiration.
jurov: yes, but still it clouds judgment of people like asciilifeform
jurov: if i understand him cirrectly, ibm pc destroyed better architectures
asciilifeform: jurov: nope.
asciilifeform: the maggots are rarely the murder weapon.
jurov: maggots.
BingoBoingo: Often the maggots seem like their are try to help. "Oh here's some necrotic tissue to debride!"
jurov: mircea see? which manager is going to do such thing, only to get it labeled maggots by his peers?
asciilifeform: jurov: x86 is not scar tissue because it is popular, but because it genuinely sucks, and sucked from day 1 compared to virtually all known alternatives.
mircea_popescu: a peerless one ?
jurov: only peerless one
mircea_popescu: !up Uohz_
jurov: i now have better understanding why jobs had to humiliate engineers to get what he wanted
mircea_popescu: do tell?
jurov: As early as 1987, the New York Times wrote: "by the early 80's, Mr. Jobs was widely hated at Apple. Senior management had to endure his temper tantrums. He created resentment among employees by turning some into stars and insulting others, often reducing them to tears. Mr. Jobs himself would frequently cry after fights with fellow executives".
mircea_popescu: oh, so sculley wasn't telling it like it was huh.
mike_c: elmo had four ducks
asciilifeform: Mr. Jobs himself would frequently cry << gotta be a hatchet job
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell X-Rob How are the stats on chalbersma's pool looking?
assbot: P2Pool
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: http://a.pomf.se/wvukav.webm << mega-lol
X-Rob: BingoBoingo: I can try aiming there again if you want
X-Rob: let's have a look
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: Might as well.
X-Rob: share difficulty of 188 is still going to be bad
X-Rob: but, let's see what happens
BingoBoingo: Your hash should drive it up.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.18481285 = 2.5874 BTC [-] {6}
BingoBoingo: I've also only got a bit more than 22 hours of rented hash left
BingoBoingo: Hopefully this thing plays well with different workers mining to the same address.
X-Rob: OK, that's better. It's now accepting shares at 1024 when I ask it to
X-Rob: it's still resetting every couple of seconds, but, that's just how p2pool works
X-Rob: it appears to be better
X-Rob: albiet still sub-optimal
X-Rob: but that'
X-Rob: s a p2pool limitation now
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: But still, more transparent than alternatives. When chalbersma get on feel free to suggest some optimizations if you can think of any.
X-Rob: there aren't any
BingoBoingo: Cool
X-Rob: this is now as good as it's going to get 8)
X-Rob: Well
X-Rob: ... maybe it could be better
X-Rob: Hmm
X-Rob: What I'm seeing on the dashboard is not what I"m seeing when submitting shares.
BingoBoingo: I have to say this is probably the most consistent rented hash I've ever had it seems. The 600GH/s pointed at it nao
mircea_popescu: X-Rob so why does it suck ?
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: I don't think I used the word suck.
X-Rob: And If I did, I shouldn't have.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.183 = 7.869 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kay, so why's it suboptimal ?
X-Rob: Assume 'asic reset time' = ... 500msec. That happens whenver the pool says 'discard all your work, I have a new block with a new coinbase'
X-Rob: on a non-p2pool pool, that happens once every block
mike_c: so catchy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LEYwoooVfw
assbot: Sesame Street: Elmo's Ducks - YouTube
X-Rob: so every 10 minutes, 500msec of hashing is thrown away
X-Rob: that's not that bad.
mircea_popescu: and on a p2pool ?
X-Rob: but p2pool has sharechains. The sharechains is, according to p2pool, a new block
X-Rob: so every n seconds a share is found (Which, currently, is about 8k or so, looking at when I'm getting resets sent through)
X-Rob: I'm submitting a valid share every.. 10 seconds or so
mircea_popescu: so every 8k seconds ?
asciilifeform: mike_c: related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCTL69saJVQ
assbot: 10 Orks (subtitle eng) - YouTube
X-Rob: I'm finding a block with a difficulty of 8k every 10 seconds.
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: so 60x as much wastage ?
mircea_popescu: this is hopeless.
X-Rob: which means every 10 seconds, I (and all the rest of the miners) get told to discard everythign they're working on
X-Rob: yes.
cazalla: cryptsy users about to get btfo with spam "Cryptsy will actively promote digitalX Mintsy to its customer base of over 250,000 registered users, who currently trade over 200 different types of digital currencies, making the site a leader in digital currency trading."
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: This is POSSIBLY just because this p2pool doesn't have any history on block time
X-Rob: let's see how it goes after it finds a block
mircea_popescu: cazalla i wanna meet the followers for all these leaders. america, the land of the 99 leaders to the duck.
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: It's found 5
X-Rob: Hmmm
mike_c: asciilifeform: I'll try it on my son tomorrow night and let you know how it goes
asciilifeform: mike_c: that song is about pretty much every place i've ever worked.
mike_c: i like it :)
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N_3sS0rTCo << same deal.
assbot: Un elefant se legana ... TraLaLa - YouTube
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spondoolies-tech-sp-35/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are ascending
mircea_popescu: romanian optimism.
asciilifeform: 'our [soviet] elephants - largest in the world!' - unknown wag
BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfNdwFwV6Ao << Traditional Anglo Lullaby
BingoBoingo: I think every culture has its own countdown from 10 song
mike_c: diff
mike_c: sry
RagnarDanneskjol: re p2pool - like I said: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807513 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2014 12:58:47; RagnarDanneskjol: going to try multiple options - prolly mpos cuz p2pool sux hairy balls
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo : monte negros only goes down to 7.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: If it wasn't a badbet I'd suggest maor white Americans get ebola y Jan 1st 2015 than black Americans. Seems safe since they already have the lead.
kakobrekla: anyone knows what is the record for male 100m sprint in Montenegro?
kakobrekla: fine, ill tell you. its 44 meters.
RagnarDanneskjol: BingoBoingo - what is the name of the miners you are using - if its gonna stop tomorow, I might take it over so there's more than one miner on the pool. and I assume rob isnt planning to keep his running 24/7 indefinitely, right?
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/6653
assbot: Mining Rig Rentals | Rigs
RagnarDanneskjol: thank. have a contact name?
BingoBoingo: Just that the page lists and owner name. Other rigs might be a better value.
RagnarDanneskjol: ok. just looking for reliability at this point.
X-Rob: [2014-09-17 10:58:20] Accepted 34998985 Diff 1.25K/1024 AV2 1 pool 3
X-Rob: [2014-09-17 10:58:22] Accepted 18493fe2 Diff 2.7K/1024 AV2 1 pool 3
X-Rob: [2014-09-17 10:58:25] Accepted 15f9f3ce Diff 2.98K/1024 AV2 0 pool 3
X-Rob: [2014-09-17 10:58:29] Found block for pool 3!
X-Rob: [2014-09-17 10:58:29] Stratum from pool 3 requested work restart
X-Rob: [2014-09-17 10:58:29] Accepted 04b43970 Diff 3.57M/1024 BLOCK! AV2 0 pool 3
X-Rob: [2014-09-17 10:58:33] Stratum from pool 3 detected new block
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol 44 metres ??
kakobrekla: thats the record. :)
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: A big thing with p2pool seems to be finding miners that play nicely with it. Antminer S2's suck, but S1's and S3's are ok. Other rigs are somewhat trial and error in my limited research.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://photo.oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051614147 << just for you. 'ballerina at the machine.'
assbot: -
RagnarDanneskjol: ahh - interesting. this I did not know
RagnarDanneskjol: !up RagnarsBitch
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: Well complicating this is also that other than Antminers I dunno what mining hardware is actually shipping in quantity
RagnarsBitch: OK. I will do some research then
BingoBoingo: RagnarsBitch: Also with that site... It just functions as a sort of Ebay trying to be a "dumb" middleman so contacting rig owners off their paltform is a hassel
RagnarsBitch: Ohhh. So like nicehash. That is good to know..I missed that
BingoBoingo: RagnarsBitch: There seem to be a few of these sites. It was just the first one mentioned when the constipation crisis happened. I think Blazedout419 brought it up
BingoBoingo: !up Blazedout419
chalbersma: @Ragnar did someone else add hashing power to the nodes?
mircea_popescu: %p
atcbot: No data returned from CoinMiner.net
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 73.30 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.65 TH/s
mircea_popescu: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 293762.94 in 1081 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -84.36
BingoBoingo: chalbersma: X-Rob just pointed his over
chalbersma: Nice
BingoBoingo: chalbersma: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2014#831691 is where to do the quick catching up☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2014 00:22:07; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell X-Rob How are the stats on chalbersma's pool looking?
X-Rob: heh
X-Rob: The share difficulty is better, chalbersma, btw
X-Rob: the gui is saying it's still small, but it seems to be only asking for resets at about 12k now
X-Rob: Block!
BingoBoingo: Oh, fixing the share difficulty was in part my bashing hash into the pool unproductively for a while's result
X-Rob: BingoBoingo: nah
BingoBoingo: Fuck Yeah
X-Rob: It wasn't accepting +diff before
X-Rob: and now it is
X-Rob: that was the first major fix that chalbersma did
chalbersma: Everybody loves a block.
chalbersma: X-Rob I looked it up. It will accept +diff but there's a maximum + you can go up. going 1024 when diff was 1 was too much.
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: Well, maybe a mix. For a while there were 0.002 second share times.
X-Rob: chalbersma: Hmmm. Anyway, it's working fine now with +1024
X-Rob: and that's the important thing.
chalbersma: Indeed
BingoBoingo: !s blogger.com
assbot: 2 results for 'blogger.com' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=blogger.com
X-Rob: The pool still has its share difficulty way too low.
chalbersma: Ya when you look at p2pool in Bitcoin nobody has a share of the network like you and Bingo do.
BingoBoingo: chalbersma: Now you need to coordinate with mod6 to get the pool added to:
BingoBoingo: %p
atcbot: No data returned from CoinMiner.net
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 109.95 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.34 TH/s
mircea_popescu: o look it dropped :D
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think an iSpace miner may have defected to this new pool
nubbins`: http://dollar.fail
assbot: Bitcoin - Open source P2P money
nubbins`: lel
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin.org is the original domain name used with the first Bitcoin website. It was registered and is still managed by Bitcoin core developers and by additional community members, with the input of Bitcoin communities. Bitcoin.org is not an official website. Just like nobody owns the email technology, nobody owns the Bitcoin network. As such, nobody can speak with authority in the name of Bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: much better.
asciilifeform: and where goes bitcoin.fail ?
mircea_popescu: there.
mircea_popescu: oh
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: some derp wanting to sell it.
nubbins`: to some guy hawking domain names
mircea_popescu: phil@bitcoin.ink
nubbins`: phil's got money to burn
mircea_popescu: no you don't understand investing
mircea_popescu: it's not burned if there's hope
nubbins`: o o
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/more-visuals-from-buenos-aires/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ^
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Thanks, I might have to meet this Parrot guy
BingoBoingo: !up RagnarsBitch
nubbins`: maybe he can get you into the embassy
nubbins`: i think there's a guy in montreal with one of those as well
nubbins`: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/15576/bracing-bitcoin-buenos-aires/
assbot: Bracing for Bitcoin In Argentina
mircea_popescu: orly.
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/09/16/what-in-the-world-were-those-white-objects-hovering-over-washington-d-c/ << they're watching
assbot: What in the world were those white objects hovering over Washington, D.C.?
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asciilifeform: these were announced some time last month, i think.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah but it turns out it wasn't the 'radar blimps'
decimation: it's some other unit of usg doing spending money it doesn't have
asciilifeform: or amateurs, testing the waters.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 462.62, Best ask: 463.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.88000, Last trade: 463.5, 24 hour volume: 5304.89306353, 24 hour low: 462.0, 24 hour high: 473.69, 24 hour vwap: 467.803999969
asciilifeform: http://www.popville.com/2014/03/about-that-balloon-in-the-sky-over-dupont << from comments, reference to commercial balloon service which is sometimes used in the city.
assbot: About that Balloon in the Sky Over Dupont | PoPville
decimation: perhaps it's the humble beginnings of the Ugandan space program: http://acrossdifficultcountry.blogspot.com/2009/05/far-out-space-nuts.html
assbot: Across Difficult Country: Far out space nuts
decimation: why the hell does a 'height master plan' need a balloon for photography?
asciilifeform: balloon-monger gotta eat.
decimation: maybe they can sell balloons to zambia
decimation: actually a well engineered balloon system would be a great 'pauper's space program'
asciilifeform: http://www.amazon.com/dia-Professional-Weather-Balloon-green/dp/B00DWG25E8 << not a military secret. buy all you want.
assbot: Amazon.com : 8 ft. dia. Professional Weather Balloon, 150g (green) : Weather Stations : Patio, Lawn & Garden
asciilifeform: problem is, these pop (by design) at a certain height.
decimation: yeah ideally you want it to adjust its height so it can use the winds to station-keep indefinitely
asciilifeform: obligatory:
asciilifeform: http://web.mst.edu/~rogersda/forensic_geology/japenese%20vengenance%20bombs%20new.htm
asciilifeform: (winds, stationkeeping, got it all...)
decimation: plus submarines!
asciilifeform: all this, with 19th c. tech.
asciilifeform: not even rubber.
decimation: my understanding is that the japanese were actually very close to a working nuke bomb
asciilifeform: decimation: not so much close to an actual physical unit, but had the correct approach (vs. german heavy water.)
decimation: submarine + bigass balloon + nuke = megadeath
asciilifeform: afaik they flew from japan proper.
asciilifeform: no subs required.
mircea_popescu: get out of here, atom bomb baloons
asciilifeform: temperamental machines, they were, not where you'd stuff a precious handmade '40s nuke
asciilifeform: but - cheap.
asciilifeform: 'cheap & angry'
decimation: yeah you are right, I guess the submarines were just a hypothesis (although could still be true, sand from beach, launched from sub)
decimation: yeah I'm not sure that the rubber/plastic technology of the age could have made a big enough balloon
decimation: or set of balloons
asciilifeform: decimation: dirigible.
decimation: I think we had a conversation about cow guts being a military secret in germany
decimation: http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/other-wwi-aviation/59492-how-many-cows-does-take-build-zeppelin.html
assbot: How many cows does it take to build a Zeppelin?
mircea_popescu: decimation not the rubber, not the gas (how do you get helium on a sub ?)
mircea_popescu: etc
decimation: in theory one could produce hydrogen from the seawater with lots of energy
asciilifeform: He on a sub - nuttery. H on the other hand...
mircea_popescu: yeah glwt
mircea_popescu: it burns because it gets bored.
decimation: heh yeah
mircea_popescu: why not make azide baloon then
BingoBoingo: Because touching the balloon would set it off?
mircea_popescu: but even for the hell of it - calculate the sub that can carry the diesel engine that can make the electricity thyat can fill a baloon
decimation: It would probably be best to build a couple devices and stuff them on airplanes that are stuffed into submarines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400-class_submarine
assbot: I-400-class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: of course the actual devices used by the us could never be carried by such light aircraft
mircea_popescu: decimation you're starting to sound like the hershey bar guy
mircea_popescu: "let's make a flying galleon!11"
decimation: hehe
decimation: I have a proposition for you but you need to self-select into a watt engine between 500-700 years ago
asciilifeform: obligatory:
asciilifeform: http://adlittlechronicles.blogspot.com/2008/07/of-silk-purses-and-lead-balloons.html
assbot: ADL Chronicles: Of Silk Purses and Lead Balloons
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: i actually invented watt engines 750 years ago, over a coffee chat with twinklebros
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decimation: but zuckerberg stole the idea because he googled 'im stealin ur patents'
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mircea_popescu: no, watt did
decimation: no he was a front for zuck's sister
decimation: I'm looking forward to facebook's space program http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/09/14/facebook-hires-satellite-executive-from-google/
assbot: Facebook Hires Satellite Executive from Google - Digits - WSJ
decimation: actually for what facebook wasted on whatsapp, they could have had a really nice little satellite constellation (assuming they had the will to engineer it properly)
mircea_popescu: http://www.8btc.com/everyones-a-scammer
mircea_popescu: glonass didn't cost 20 bn, and it;'s afaik better than the gps stuff
decimation: herr walker believes this could be scaled: http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/rocketaday.html << the nazis paid $13k 1945 dollars per V2
assbot: A Rocket a Day Keeps the High Costs Away
mircea_popescu: !up DiabloD3
mircea_popescu: decimation you should see what the gas cost them
mircea_popescu: if anyone can read chinese, wtf is 自愿持有那些法币臭狗屎
mircea_popescu: something with dogshit in it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.199 = 0.597 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19999 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: $13k 1945 dollars per V2 << lol! the ultimate 'confusion between the warm and the soft things.'
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asciilifeform: vile 20th century broke many good things, incl. fungibility of money.
decimation: asciilifeform: this is true. But even at 1000x that price, you can buy many rockets for $19bn today
asciilifeform: how many circa 2014 u.s. dollars buy $1 of circa 1905 german chemistry? and wtf does that even mean.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform % of total world still works as a comparison term.
asciilifeform: 19bn bezzlars? try to spend that much empty paper and buy one rocket.
mircea_popescu: 1% of earth is worth 1% of earth at any point in time.
asciilifeform: not sure 19bn buys 1% of earth unless in the form of briefcases loaded with bejies
mircea_popescu: well notrly, buy bitcoin for it, then buy the rocket :D
asciilifeform: *benj
asciilifeform: sure. but same applies. can't be in, e.g., 'yahoo' stock.
cazalla: hilarious, top video on reddit, guy getting jacked at gun point in where else but Buenos Aires
mircea_popescu: no wai.
cazalla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iudb0amH0sY
assbot: Attempted robbery at gunpoint caught on GoPro!!! - YouTube
mircea_popescu: this has so got to be fake
decimation: the way the nazis got there was partially by making von braun the personal dictator of their rocket program and partialy by slave labor
cazalla: and this is like 5 mins after reading your article
decimation: neither of which are available today
mircea_popescu: where the fuck is he
mircea_popescu: looks like baracas or something
The20YearIRCloud: Glonass is better than GPS
decimation: it seems that there is a division between those who are rich in bezzlars and those who could use them to do something worthwhile
asciilifeform: decimation: as per very definition of bezzlar.
mircea_popescu: lmao that guy has no future as a robber
mircea_popescu: pull that shit on the wrong guy he'd have fed him his pistol by now
asciilifeform: reddit >> http://a.pomf.se/wvukav.webm
cazalla: mircea_popescu, apparently La Boca
decimation: I wouldn't be so quick to jump on the glonass wagon: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2139300/russias-glonass-gps-system-suffers-major-disruption.html
assbot: Russia's Glonass GPS system suffers major disruption | PCWorld
mircea_popescu: Berta Lovejoy1 hour ago
mircea_popescu: This is why I say that all men should have an annual mandatory mental checkup. Over 80% of inmates are men, and 40% of the global male population ends up in prison at some point in their life. It is clear that they have some sort of genetic defect that makes them act irresponsibly and end up putting others at risk. Peace and civility can only be achieved if we ensure that the male population has a normal functioning st
mircea_popescu: ate of mind.
mircea_popescu: lawl.
The20YearIRCloud: There was supposed to be a ? After what I said. Glonass has been very problematic. When it works its great but way more unreliable than GPS
The20YearIRCloud: GPS has essentially had 100% uptime since the 80s. Glonass started in 1976 and hasn't worked correctly till about 2004
mircea_popescu: i've not been following it too closely.
decimation: mircea_popescu: report to your local reeducation camp to adjust your mental health
mircea_popescu: but afaik they mostly fixed it.
asciilifeform: it'll get 100% uptime when the last wintel box in russia is ceremonially burned.
mircea_popescu: decimation or i could just bitchslap her if she starts droning around me
mircea_popescu: either way.
The20YearIRCloud: The joys of feminazidom
asciilifeform: hasn't worked correctly till about 2004 >> imperial collapse isn't terribly great for satellite constellations. as usa will soon discover.
asciilifeform: (along with vassal states)
The20YearIRCloud: What's median lifespan of a GPS satellite? Last time I checked it was over 30 years
asciilifeform: nope.
asciilifeform: rated life ~= 10 yrs. (optimal)
The20YearIRCloud: Even with collapse the constellation has good working chances through 2050
BingoBoingo: The20YearIRCloud: I dun think you know how frequently GPS satellites get replaced
asciilifeform: 5-7 yrs. in practice
asciilifeform: and this is without any banana dictator deciding one day to play selective-access games with the machines.
mircea_popescu: did you just make a racist remark @obama ?
decimation: the details behind the glonass outage: http://gpsworld.com/the-system-glonass-in-april-what-went-wrong/
assbot: The System: GLONASS in April, What Went Wrong : GPS World
asciilifeform: http://www.tpnn.com/2014/08/07/video-russian-laser-show-features-obama-sucking-on-a-banana
assbot: VIDEO: Russian Laser Show Features Obama Sucking on a Banana
mircea_popescu: cazalla http://www.expanish.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Buenos-Aires-barrios1.gif
mircea_popescu: i am in awe of my geolocation skills
decimation: BingoBoingo: I think they try to keep a few 'spares' in orbit
cazalla: mircea_popescu, close! but no cigar as they say :P
BingoBoingo: decimation: Sure, but if the lifespan is so poor...
mircea_popescu: a decade in outerspace is no kind of poor !
decimation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4WHG_GgKdI
assbot: Rocket Carrying GPS 2R Satellite Explodes - YouTube
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: A decade would be an abysmal lifespan for a book
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 321076 | Current Difficulty: 2.9829733124040417E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 322559 | Next Difficulty In: 1483 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 23 hours, 42 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 33634858035.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.75615
TheNewDeal: I may be wrong, but, the other day I think the topic of french woment showing their tits as part of some feminist revolution was discussed in here? Anyway here's a video that should provide some lulz. Forewarning, it's 10 minutes long, and retarded http://www.upworthy.com/a-french-film-showing-men-what-being-a-woman-feels-like-kinda?c=reccon1
assbot: A French Film Showing Men What Being A Woman Feels Like Kinda Nails It
decimation: lol usg is planning to spend $6.8bn bezzlars on one rocket (but it's fit for humans!) http://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/boeing-spacex-win-nasa-commercial-crew-award-180952722/?no-ist
assbot: Boeing, SpaceX Win NASA Commercial Crew Award | Daily Planet | Air & Space Magazine
decimation: actually that's $6.8bn for the metal cage that holds the humans, the rocket is extra
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00074943 = 7.3444 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37896 @ 0.00074914 = 28.3894 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.01 BTC for No on "Bitcoin volatility 2014 over $800" http://bitbet.us/bet/986/ Odds: 24(Y):76(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.3111 BTC. Current weight: 42,527.
mircea_popescu: decimation boeing was going to get usg funds one way or another.
mircea_popescu: spacex is the reward programme for musk & friends
mircea_popescu: the metal cage is extra
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00074889 = 30.8543 BTC [-] {4}
mthreat: mircea_popescu: see this yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iudb0amH0sY
assbot: Attempted robbery at gunpoint caught on GoPro!!! - YouTube
mthreat: happened in la Boca
decimation: rent-seekers gonna seek rent
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00074918 = 26.9705 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: you meet the nicest people on a honda
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45584 @ 0.000748 = 34.0968 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rebecca-abrahams/give-me-46-billion-and-i_b_5773316.html << wow hufpo almost has a decent computer security article
assbot: Give Me $46 Billion and I will Build a Safe Computer System | Rebecca Abrahams
Vexual: loose tappets command respect
decimation: Vexual: are you a markov chain?
BingoBoingo: http://dailyegyptian.com/buckminster-dome-home-preservation-begins-phase-2/
Vexual: Decimation: no, but i'll brainstorm on quasi intelligent systems for favour for the like sof you
Vexual: also you owe be 40 bux for a taxi
Vexual: BingoBoingo: shitty lookin' dome
Vexual: not very sperical at all
Vexual: perhaps he'll invent a bitoin miner thats a broken microwave
cazalla: anyone playing archeage?
Vexual: wots that?
cazalla: mmo, it's f2p but you pretty much have to pay if you get serious, i played a little of the beta but not much, it's ok but nothing stands out
cazalla: western version went live today
Duffer1: my brother played it a bit
Duffer1: i'm not a fan
Vexual: is it a massive multiplayer?
Duffer1: yea mmo
Vexual: can i be chaotic good?
cazalla: this sums it up well - "The storyline of Archeage is a war between whites and east Asians, and much of the game play is piracy, with much of the piracy featuring conflicts between whites and east Asians. White male avatars are depicted as way better than anyone else, even though this game was written and the art drawn by east Asians. (And, by the way, the Mongols are catboys)"
Vexual: ;;ud catboy
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=catboy | Either a male human that is half-cat(thus having cat ears, a cat tail, and paws) or a male cat that is half human(thus standing upright and having slightly more ...
Vexual is confused
Vexual: i classify no east asian pirate as pussy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12992 @ 0.00074732 = 9.7092 BTC [-]
Vexual: theyre likey rockin 2000 hp an automatic weapons, cats int that they like fish and killing smaller things
Vexual: !up RagnarsBitch
Vexual: sup cali
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdSUkABrNoM nom nom
Vexual: merc business
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40217 @ 0.00074702 = 30.0429 BTC [-] {4}
Vexual: 212 to the 714
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk
Vexual: lesbian force
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5633 @ 0.00074662 = 4.2057 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: i dont get robbed on no train
Vexual: ben was still 10 when he dropped this sgit
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwl7tthqzkA flop your cock, nigga fainetd
cazalla: what ya drinking Vexual?
Vexual: whiskey
Vexual: et ou?
punkman: buttermilk
Vexual: lol
punkman: here ya go http://vimeo.com/31877093
assbot: CSS - City Grrrl feat. SSION on Vimeo
Vexual: punkman be phishin for iggy tape
punkman: iggy little ms goody two shoes, not punk enough
Vexual: we;;
Vexual: whataabouta ricky jilton?
Vexual: uwannabeapunk?
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FH-q0I1fJY
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-aWEYezEMk
Vexual: do so bitbet
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxjdg_D5YQY
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1910005 = 0.764 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFS_Q06DOPo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41050 @ 0.00075209 = 30.8733 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vw4ajnWGA
Vexual: check it
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiNZbcEzogU
Vexual: ;;seen krs1
gribble: krs1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours, 29 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <KRS1> its cool tho..im gonna shuffle off now
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE9A5osUes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 986 @ 0.00067978 = 0.6703 BTC [-] {9}
Vexual: vanishing point
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxhtbjYGrI4
Vexual: doint ask me about mopower
Vexual: *up RagnarsBitch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41388 @ 0.0007535 = 31.1859 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00074908 = 22.3226 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27048 @ 0.00075386 = 20.3904 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.1855 = 0.9275 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: so this is weird : if you do /nick irc it says * irc :Erroneous Nickname ; but if you do /msg NickServ identify irc 123 it says -NickServ- Invalid password for Nexuist. now how the hell did this nexuist guy manage to group irc ?
mircea_popescu: ;;whois nexuist
gribble: Error: You don't have the network.whois capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
xmj: whoami
mircea_popescu: !up themediator
Azelphur: it's official, I'm can see the future, http://pastebin.com/kBsUCMAL :P
assbot: (10:23:47) : https://coinfloor.co.uk (10:24:35) : Looks good, cheap, faster UK - Pastebin.com
Azelphur: I can*
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 453.59, Best ask: 453.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 453.6, 24 hour volume: 7539.14007470, 24 hour low: 453.6, 24 hour high: 472.4, 24 hour vwap: 462.896815563
kakobrekla: more exchanges than buyers.
mircea_popescu: Azelphur how many butts in my head tonight ?
Azelphur: I'mma go with...zero
Azelphur runs before mircea_popescu beats me
mircea_popescu: lol
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: ragnar has been talking to me about doing some MPEX stuff on company time soon, could be interesting :)
mircea_popescu: aha ?
Azelphur: nothing anywhere near set yet, but words like bloomberg terminal are being thrown about :)
Azelphur: (ie, some kind of bloomberg terminal-like UI)
mircea_popescu: shouldn't be too terribly hard.
Azelphur: indeed
fluffypony: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bxs9rIyCEAAg8i_.jpg
chetty: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/09/16/Dick-Durbin-Amnesty-Bill-Will-Help-Contain-Ebola
assbot: Dick Durbin: Amnesty Bill Will Help Contain Ebola
mircea_popescu: wait it's an epidemic already ?
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/breaks-over-back-to-the-basement/
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: i think epidemic is the word they use when 50% of cases have appeared in the past three weeks 8)
nubbins`: it's climbing like the fucking hashrate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84280 @ 0.00075442 = 63.5825 BTC [+]
chetty thinks <mircea_popescu> needed a morning coffee // http://trilema.com/2014/breaks-over-back-to-the-basement/
assbot: Break’s over, back to the basement! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: chetty what, too soft ?!
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolo_Tomassi << wikipedia delivers lol
assbot: Rolo Tomassi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: obscure band from nowhere, as described by Paul Klotschkow in Nottingham Culture - LeftLion
asciilifeform: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rebecca-abrahams/give-me-46-billion-and-i_b_5773316.html << amazing!11! trololol.
assbot: Give Me $46 Billion and I will Build a Safe Computer System | Rebecca Abrahams
asciilifeform: incidentally, anyone amused by the above should look up Green Hills corp.
asciilifeform: http://www.ghs.com/linux.html << the original industrial-strength anti-linux pr.
assbot: Linux in Defense - Green Hills Software
asciilifeform: (ghs sells own os, not based on anything in particular. something which in principle i'd find appealing, but virtually nothing is publicly known about it. it's a 'golden toilet' of u.s. military establishment.)
punkman: "FortressFone™ is a 100% reengineered and reimagined secure mobile solution.  The first truly hardened Android Smartphone, it stops intercepts of all communications and blocks any kind of spying."
punkman: she's chief twitterer for that
asciilifeform: when i read the 'rebecca' piece, i immediately assumed it was a green hills turd somebody dug up for old time's sake.
punkman: http://www.ghs.com/linux.html << the original industrial-strength anti-linux pr. << heh, not bad
assbot: Linux in Defense - Green Hills Software
mircea_popescu: somehow i doubt she'll do any such thing
asciilifeform: anyone know if there's a traditional name for this type of scam?
asciilifeform: that is - concocting a wildly and brazenly obvious crock of shit, to make lesser ones seem plausible ?
asciilifeform: for now, i'll call it 'diversion' and be done with it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22475 @ 0.00075515 = 16.972 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 454.71, Best ask: 455.8, Bid-ask spread: 1.09000, Last trade: 455.95, 24 hour volume: 9361.40609929, 24 hour low: 450.0, 24 hour high: 471.75, 24 hour vwap: 460.189640213
thestringpuller: the dump begins?
thestringpuller: or dump is ongoing?
thestringpuller: hoorah ethereum?
mircea_popescu: o noes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "truth bodyguard of lies" ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.0007533 = 24.4446 BTC [-] {2}
los_pantalones: mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iudb0amH0sY
assbot: Attempted robbery at gunpoint caught on GoPro!!! - YouTube
los_pantalones: what is a 'rough part' of buenos aires ?
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones on one hand, it's been all over the logs yest, we even indentify the place ; on the other, a comment there even gave me a starting point for a trilema article
los_pantalones: MY BAD
mircea_popescu: generally the southwest, baraccas, la boca etc
los_pantalones: everyone mock the dufus and move along
mircea_popescu: you can readily recognise it, has this african feel, low derpy buildings etc
mircea_popescu: but anyway, didja watch that video /
mircea_popescu: ?
los_pantalones: yes
mircea_popescu: dja feel threatened by the schmuck ?
los_pantalones: noop
mircea_popescu: my point.
mircea_popescu: "herpy derp let me show you my unloaded bb gun and get within choke range while holding my hands down helplessly"
mircea_popescu: the fact that doofus survived to that age is in general proof of the incredibly low crime rate here.
mircea_popescu: imagine him pulling that shit in detroit.
los_pantalones: shoot first
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu> imagine him pulling that shit in detroit. << good premise for a movie methinks
mircea_popescu: it
mircea_popescu: d be a short gay feature.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 97 @ 0.18341639 = 17.7914 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 153 @ 0.18282554 = 27.9723 BTC [-] {4}
chetty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iudb0amH0sY
assbot: Attempted robbery at gunpoint caught on GoPro!!! - YouTube
thestringpuller: i was just thinking of the scenario of dumb robbers ending up in detroit for some reason and attempting it
thestringpuller: it'd be a comedy no?
los_pantalones: home alone detroit
thestringpuller: LOL
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller maybe a reality show
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00075317 = 23.6495 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: had a thought. usg's btc price dampener strategy has no clear endgame - the 'ethereum' thing will carry on while the usd printing press runs, because it stands to reason they are running both the sell and -buy- ends of the machine. 'arse-mouth system.'
asciilifeform: the usd printer doesn't even have to engage unless an outsider shows up to purchase a cheap coin.
mircea_popescu: kinda the idea. "make it impossible to sell btc to third parties, continue to pretend like the price is low, gold v2.0"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anybody other than us discussing this publicly ?
mircea_popescu: anybody else is either too stupid or too poor to be concerned with such matters.
asciilifeform: but how does usg ensure that no third party outbid it ?
asciilifeform: as i understand, they are simply baking on painting the tape 'dark enough' with arse-mouth lowball bids.
mircea_popescu: ensure too strong a word. but suppose you don't let terrorists run their own exchanges, nor deposit to yours.
mircea_popescu: well... no demand then right ?
asciilifeform: *banking on
mircea_popescu: kinda why the entire "public auction of btc" thing turned into such an embarassment for the usg.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.27218897 BTC to 15`093 shares, 8429 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 7.47492200 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 650 satoshi per share
asciilifeform: i see it as virtually certain that the sr stash was 'washed' - i.e. traded for some quantity of 'uninteresting' coin, of the kind the public has not been sniffing the blockchain history of on a daily basis; which was then used as fuel with which to stoke gambits like 'ethereum.'
mircea_popescu: nah different coinbase.
mircea_popescu: the ethereum scam was mostly supported on borrowed coins.
asciilifeform: different coinbase << traded in meatspace. purely analogue operation.
mircea_popescu: well in that sense sure.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anybody else is either too stupid or too poor << the funny part is, if i actually had any palpable coin, i'd find this kind of mental process more arduous, rather than less. being armchair general vs. the actual kind. easier.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78400 @ 0.00075231 = 58.9811 BTC [-] {3}
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-logical-impossibility-and-the-moral-untenability-of-forgiveness/
thestringpuller: that's a good article mircea_popescu
thestringpuller: i think you're getting soft :P
mircea_popescu: in my old age.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1839 @ 0.00070001 = 1.2873 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu will be an adorable old man :D
punkman: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/17/mt-gox-s-karpeles-on-losing-a-half-billion-bucks-in-bitcoins.html
assbot: Vilified Bitcoin Tycoon After Losing $500 Million: My Life Is at Risk - The Daily Beast
punkman: someone's gonna try the rubberhose eventually
los_pantalones: "I have forgotten my laptop on a park bench numerous times"
los_pantalones: prob something that would cause you to put someone else in charge of security
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14830 @ 0.00075515 = 11.1989 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones unverifiable claim. why not make it, in his position ?
kakobrekla: you forgot " and each time someone brought it back to me."
punkman: "Maybe it’s too strong to use that word, but being pirated—having someone entering your server without you knowing it—is close to being violated, like a virtual rape."
los_pantalones: hero is a comic book character
mircea_popescu: well once statutory rape exists at all, everything is "like rape"
mircea_popescu: that's a logical necessity.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27420 @ 0.00075526 = 20.7092 BTC [+]
Namworld: Someone found is laptop, saw who's it was, planted his malware, gave it back. Mark has it connected to backend while working.
Namworld: Next episode: Hacker and his gang's daring escape with the floppy disk containing half a billion USD. Hot pursuit, treason and more!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what do you think of #b-a media?
Namworld: Because stupid plot
mircea_popescu: Namworld quite stupid plot.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller wut ?
Namworld: Don't old hacking/spy/etc movies all look like that anyway? Plots that don't make sense, with floppy disks.
mircea_popescu: honestly, i never cared for pulp, be it sf, action, spy, whatever.
mircea_popescu: so i have no fucking idea.
mircea_popescu: conventional fiction just isn't worth the time
Namworld: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicFloppyDisk eh
assbot: Main/Magic Floppy Disk - Television Tropes & Idioms
mircea_popescu: lol maybe this is the cause for the cloud
mircea_popescu: hollywood needed better tropes.
Namworld: >xD
Namworld: Cloud hacking? Is there games/movies about people who can hack into everything electric? Yup.
Namworld: New plot device, just as retarded as before.
mircea_popescu: but at least it's new.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: we should invent our own propaganda machine of media
mircea_popescu: like renaming homeless people something else : now you get a year or so breathing space while everyone redoes the studies in the new name
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller why ?
thestringpuller: why not?
mircea_popescu: because we mostly don't care to deal with idiots ?
thestringpuller: GPG radio shows
mircea_popescu: that's like the only identifiable point of bitcoin programme. "let's act as if idiots didn't exist"
thestringpuller: yessir
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 13 @ 0.04644243 = 0.6038 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: !up jenninsea
mircea_popescu: FAIL
kakobrekla: !up jenninsea
kakobrekla: fail is your pet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://analepsis.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/336.png
jenninsea: yay
mthreat: jenninsea: "sea" = "seattle", not "sealand"?
Namworld: Well it's the middle of the city, mostly concrete all around. Not much backyards. Plus big cats don't like him on their territory apparently.
jenninsea: yes mthreat
kakobrekla: at least this one speaks!
jenninsea: how do i get voice permanently?
kakobrekla: !help
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: wrong link
kakobrekla: go 3 up
jenninsea: 3 up?
kakobrekla: explore dat wiki link.
jenninsea: ah, gotcha
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 447.59, Best ask: 448.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 447.09, 24 hour volume: 11089.81912698, 24 hour low: 447.08, 24 hour high: 469.4, 24 hour vwap: 457.745659022
ThickAsThieves: the video game where you can hack anything is called Watch Dogs, i think
Namworld: Yeah, looks like it
ThickAsThieves: maybe we'll get $270 bitcoins for xmas this year
los_pantalones: thanksgiving
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 244 @ 0.00494999 = 1.2078 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: !up mats_cd03
mats_cd03: 22:28:50 <+mircea_popescu> something with dogshit in it << looks like something meant to be synonymous with 'fiat'. so, fiat held by those smelly dog shits.
mats_cd03: ThickAsThieves: thx m8
mircea_popescu: ah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 210 @ 0.00496571 = 1.0428 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: np
mats_cd03: simplified chinese is terrible.
mats_cd03: actually, chinese in general is pretty terrible
mats_cd03: even highly educated chinese (~6000 character mastery) sometimes write complex characters incorrectly, and dont realize it due to the sheer number of them in existence
mats_cd03: the kangxi dictionary, standardized during the qing, has... 47k characters.
mats_cd03: http://thesprawl.org/projects/ida-sploiter some ROP bits in there
assbot: ida sploiter | projects | sprawl
mircea_popescu: i scarcely see the problem. i know about half a million words and never confuse them
mircea_popescu: granted the alphabetic notation is much better mnemotechnic than the stupidity of pictograms, which is why modern language use alphabets and words.
mircea_popescu: lol bitbet can't approve hurricane bet because the hurricane center site is down
mircea_popescu: such lyf
mats_cd03: its inefficient, because while recognizing them is easy
mats_cd03: writing them, not so much.
mats_cd03: it is pretty typical for chinese people to forget how to write this or that character... how common is that for westerners?
mircea_popescu: educated ppl ? poretty much alzheimer symptom if it happens
mats_cd03: http://www.rafayhackingarticles.net/2014/08/android-browser-same-origin-policy.html millions of android devices vulnerable.
assbot: Android Browser Same Origin Policy Bypass < 4.4 - CVE-2014-6041 | Learn How To Hack - Ethical Hacking and security tips
ThickAsThieves: The Federal Reserve said the economy is expanding at a moderate pace and inflation is below its goal while maintaining a commitment to keep interest rates near zero for a “considerable time” after asset purchases are completed.
ThickAsThieves: inflation below its goal!
kakobrekla: malaimo neher haf huch prohlzn
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "King Felix to Reign MLB Strikeouts" http://bitbet.us/bet/943/ Odds: 5(Y):95(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.815 BTC. Current weight: 19,512.
kakobrekla: mats_cd03 *
bounce: easy enough fix. they fudged their definition so much to make it seem lower that they have plenty of headroom fudging the definition so it's back at goal.
ThickAsThieves: you have the wrong definition of goal tho
ThickAsThieves: goal is to reach infinity dollars
Namworld: and supermarket price tags to all read $∞?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00075196 = 13.9865 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: <+ThickAsThieves> goal is to reach infinity dollars << i wonder if you could trick someone into think that is a real currency
thestringpuller: oh wait
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29848 @ 0.00075154 = 22.432 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: damn lawyers
ben_vulpes: "please send me a diff of this amended SOW against the previous one"
ben_vulpes: diff comes back with one section highlit
ben_vulpes: missing highlighting of like 4 other changed areas
ben_vulpes: dafuq are you getting paid for?
thestringpuller: getting paid to sue clients for money they owe you for violating SOW
thestringpuller: :P
mike_c: no way. if you use a lawyer to sue your clients you end up losing money.
mike_c: small claims court ftw.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 maybe there's something to be said for a many read few write system, upon consideration.
mircea_popescu: the ease with which an appearance of wrioting can be imparted on children in the latin empire may be the actual downfal of this entire thing
mircea_popescu: <Namworld> and supermarket price tags to all read $∞? << yes because no matter what $∞ purchase you pay with an $∞ bill you're still owed $∞ in change.
mircea_popescu: finally money can be fair.
ThickAsThieves: i've got my ∞ tattoo, so it's like a lifetime pass
xmj: ben_vulpes: use plaintext files in a SCM.
xmj: ben_vulpes: git diff foo@hash foo@hash_previous
ben_vulpes: xmj: have you ever actually hammered out contracts with client legal teams?
ben_vulpes: there isn't enough time in the world to teach the lawyers scm
ben_vulpes: of COURSE i keep all of my company's documents in source control
ben_vulpes: it's the pesky client documents
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we already have 'many read few write.' nobody's really fooled by the erzats-writers.
xmj: ay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36875 @ 0.00075147 = 27.7105 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00075126 = 18.5561 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: random question if someone can answer it
thestringpuller: is anyone from bitstamp in the WoT?
mike_c: kakobrekla is. he is president of bitstamp fan club.
xmj: lol:
xmj: "today i learned dollar.fail redirects to bitcoin.org"
chalbersma: ;;help rate
gribble: (rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.
thestringpuller: !s from:kakobrekla bitstamp
assbot: 56 results for 'from:kakobrekla bitstamp' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Akakobrekla+bitstamp
thestringpuller: gold
thestringpuller: thank you mike_c
nubbins`: heh
bounce: *sigh* someone redirect dns.fail to icann.org
thestringpuller: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00400080 / 0.0049059 / 0.00498958 (644 shares, 3.15940213 BTC), 7D: 0.00383331 / 0.00446059 / 0.00498958 (1910 shares, 8.51972834 BTC), 30D: 0.00320001 / 0.0041543 / 0.00498958 (11874 shares, 49.32812759 BTC)
thestringpuller: so RENT is ipoing more units tomorrow higher than what it's trading at?
BingoBoingo: !up The20YearIRCloud
mike_c: mircea_popescu: see? why else care what the stock price is.
thestringpuller: On Thursday, September 18th, 2014 at 11:00AM (EST), a public offering will open for Rental Starter .
thestringpuller: Total Units: 26900
thestringpuller: Maximum Units Per User: 26900
thestringpuller: Price: 0.0075BTC/unit
thestringpuller: Can people not maths?
The20YearIRCloud: thestringpuller: a few of our larger investors want more equity shares, and there's no way to sell it outside of havelock
jurov: does anyone know davout's blog? iirc he postponed x.eur expiration to september 21?
thestringpuller: blogs.bitcoin-assets.com
mike_c: The20YearIRCloud: so why don't they just put in bids..
jurov: ah i forgot
jurov: Settlements will also be delayed until September 25th. It should however remain possible to buy X.EUR futures until that time unless the market maker bot somehow explodes in flight.
jurov: dave he maked such short-fused bots
jurov: derp
jurov: dave makes such short-fused bots
kakobrekla: lol mike_c fu!
kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/26/iL/1GtJeHpB/euro.png
kakobrekla: poop.
jurov: you broke x.eur!
kakobrekla: it was Shaggy.
[]bot: Bet placed: 3.5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty to fall before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1040/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.50588 BTC. Current weight: 47,212.
BingoBoingo: Omg Euro is crashing!!!
jurov: !up nerdfiles
jurov: !up nerdfiles
nubbins`: twist: buy 1000 shares, get a free bitcoin poster
mike_c: most slanted bitbet out there, starting to look better. http://bitbet.us/bet/1041/euro-sinks-against-usd/
assbot: BitBet - Euro sinks against USD :: 0.03 B (2%) on Yes, 1.83 B (98%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 90`680 (100`000 to 1)
kakobrekla: yeah just not in that tiem frame
nubbins`: so gribble can generate a ,,$rand but does anyone know how to restrict the range?
nubbins`: wait, what is it? ,,(echo $rand) for inline
nubbins` shrugs
mike_c: multiplication?
nubbins`: ;;echo $rand
gribble: 151
nubbins`: ;;echo $rand
gribble: 401
nubbins`: anyway.
kakobrekla: anyway i think b4x is better tool for currency bets
mike_c: worst. marketer. evah.
mike_c: he means bit4x.com folks.
kakobrekla: eh, nobody here cares.
jurov: !t m s.mg
assbot: [MPEX:S.MG] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000091 / 0.000091 / 0.000091 (100 shares, 0.01 BTC)
mike_c: ;;calc [echo $rand] + 512 / 1024
gribble: 161.5
kakobrekla: looks like the fall isnt over for today.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --eur
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency eur
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 348.1236, vol: 11687.41923932 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 354.0, vol: 108.91287 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 356.4621, vol: 17807.75020000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 348.2183, vol: 1076.7282778 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 353.5, vol: 129.50445392 | Volume-weighted last average: 352.989768176
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
kakobrekla had the other market in mind but i guess its same here
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 445.91, Best ask: 447.33, Bid-ask spread: 1.42000, Last trade: 447.0, 24 hour volume: 11687.41923932, 24 hour low: 443.57, 24 hour high: 465.57, 24 hour vwap: 454.908328559
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.01073694 = 0.612 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: It's all the same market
kakobrekla: myea i guess so.
BingoBoingo: Still online http://heavensgate.com/
assbot: Heaven's Gate - How and When It May Be Entered
BingoBoingo: Even after all that cool aid
nubbins`: hmm
nubbins`: guess they bought the deluxe package
BingoBoingo: Also in addition to sand traps and water hazards, golf nao can haz moral hazard: http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/anthony-kim-ryder-cup-breakout-star-2008-nowhere-be-found
assbot: Anthony Kim, Ryder Cup breakout star of 2008, is nowhere to be found - GOLF.com
TheNewDeal: re: Anthony Kim - all the best pro's know when to quit
TheNewDeal: a la Jim Brown
nubbins`: !s saltyspitoon
assbot: 9 results for 'saltyspitoon' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=saltyspitoon
nubbins`: hm "harbour symphony" is going on right now
nubbins`: so abrasive
TheNewDeal: sounds kind of neat. Always enjoyed hearing fog horns from the bay while growing up
nubbins`: ehh, none of the captains can apparently keep time
nubbins`: it sounds like a hot mess
TheNewDeal: wonder how close they are spaced?
nubbins`: the entire harbour is maybe 1km from end to end
nubbins`: i read once that they're given "sheet music" with a note granularity of 1 second
nubbins`: so there's plenty of room for things to go wrong
TheNewDeal: interesting
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Well, part of it is just quitting is so lucrative in his position
TheNewDeal: To me, I would much rather prefer keeping more money than I would probably earn in the next 20 years, and having to deal with professional golf assholes the whole time
TheNewDeal: maybe in 5 years or so he will be able to walk into a local bar without being hassled by randoms
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Sure. I wonder how long it is though until someone starts getting the idea to sell NFL players suspension insurance
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: co-tenants in this space gave me this shirt today http://i.imgur.com/gcI32D9.jpg
TheNewDeal: would be impossible to return a profit
nubbins`: dat 4-color print
nubbins`: i like using negative space on black shirts for keylines
TheNewDeal: if you can't tear an acl on accident, go smoke a joint and get kicked out for 2 years
ben_vulpes: i love how the the yellow is totally gratuitous
nubbins`: great big 20x24" screen with a tiny caterpillar-sized bit of space in the middle
BingoBoingo: The20YearIRCloud: Sure it could be profitable, sell it to Tom Brady
nubbins`: i hate printing shit like that ;(
[]bot: Bet placed: 2.04854766 BTC for No on "Gold above $1300 on October 1st" http://bitbet.us/bet/1022/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.73414003 BTC. Current weight: 18,706.
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: you're not charging enough to make yourself happy to do it?
nubbins`: i'm charging enough that if i worked at 25% speed i'd still be making money
nubbins`: still don't like adding a whole extra screen to a print for a tiny bit of color ;)
nubbins`: printed a run of puffin t-shirts once, my oh my
nubbins`: you basically just show the yellow ink to the shirt
nubbins`: "YA SEE THAT?!"
nubbins`: http://readysetwhoa.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/puffin3.jpg
TheNewDeal: damn that bird is hunnnngry
nubbins`: ben_vulpes truth be told, i'd rather print on paper than fabric
BingoBoingo: ;;google Gary Pinkel DUI
gribble: More details emerge from Pinkel's DWI arrest - Columbia Daily Tribune: <http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu_football/more-details-emerge-from-pinkel-s-dwi-arrest/article_d32d534c-4d4c-5f2a-a798-2d19f37c64e9.html>; Gary Pinkel arrested on suspicion of DWI - Columbia Daily Tribune ...: <http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu_football/gary-pinkel-arrested-on-suspicion-of- (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ^ TheNewDeal That's also where the money is, college coaches
nubbins`: driving while influenced ;p
TheNewDeal: Is Rob Ford betting on bitbet nao? http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/toronto2014election/2014/09/12/rob_ford_withdraws_replaced_on_mayor_ballot_by_doug.html http://bitbet.us/bet/835/rob-ford-will-withdraw-from-the-toronto-mayoral/
assbot: Rob Ford withdraws from mayor's race, Doug files to take his place | Toronto Star
assbot: BitBet - Rob Ford will withdraw from the Toronto mayoral race before September 12th :: 0.04 B (36%) on Yes, 0.07 B (64%) on No | closed 2 weeks 5 days ago
BingoBoingo: ;;google Tony larussa Miami asleep at the wheel
gribble: Tony LaRussa - BR Bullpen - Baseball-Reference.com: <http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Tony_LaRussa>; Top 10 WTF Cardinal Moments of the 2000′s | Cards Diaspora: <http://cardsdiaspora.com/2009-articles/top-10-wtf-cardinal-moments-of-the-2000s.html>; Tony La Russa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_La_Russa>
nubbins`: hm, so i placed my first order w/ silvergoldbull
nubbins`: they called and left a message telling me when my order would ship, and to call them if i had any questions :0
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Of course the moral hazard is that marginal defensive backs and linemen are going to TRY to get arrested when cut time comes around
TheNewDeal: but but but the Tom Bradys and Tim Tebows would make a lot more money just faking some back injury and watching from the couch on sundays
TheNewDeal: Bradys wife already takes home income, from what I hear
BingoBoingo: Tom Brady makes more by simply laying that pipe and keeping Gisele happy
BingoBoingo: Yeah, she makes much more than he
jurov: mircea_popescu: X.EUR expired on september 15th anyway
TheNewDeal: x.eur is done?
jurov: coinbr had 2 euros on the account a i had to untagle that mess due to them
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Still the Pinkel guy lost probably 4 million over four years since after he had some wine with dinner he got arrested.
jurov: yes, it should have expired on sep 25. now it prolly has to wait for davout
TheNewDeal: didnt read the pinkel piece
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: College Coach two years from becoming the school's winningest got boned on his next contract.
BingoBoingo: It's the sort of thing that could get Nick Saban or Bob Stoops to put down a quarter million dollars a piece annually for a decade
TheNewDeal: guy obviously had more to drink than 2 glasses of wine
TheNewDeal: first said he had none
TheNewDeal: then says he has 2
nubbins`: no bitbet for scotland seceding?
nubbins`: :o
TheNewDeal: then 2 between 800 and 830
TheNewDeal: then claims they were jumbo
nubbins`: then oops they were actually an 8-ball
TheNewDeal: then 2... between 800 and 930
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: But... But... This was the "Man of Integrity" who chased Dorial Green Beckam into Oklahomo's open arms...
TheNewDeal: He will probably just go to some other college and make more
TheNewDeal: that's how college football coaching works
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: You can't do that though when the incident happens within months of your contract expiring, so Mizzou got to renew Pinkel at a discount
TheNewDeal: I've seen coaches quit their team mid year. Any reason why he can't?
mircea_popescu: wow the log!
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Similar reason to why Nick Saban won't coach an NFL team. He has established a ridiculous value for himself at exactly one geographic location.
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: The "serious schools" as there was a discussion of not too long ago here are essentially palace economies that dominate the surrounding geography.
BingoBoingo: Politically, economically, and culturally.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we already have 'many read few write.' nobody's really fooled by the erzats-writers. << "nobody"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: there isn't enough time in the world to teach the lawyers scm <<< actually a grasp of scm is the mark of a good paralegal (ie, worth the money). lawyers are paralegals anyway, what are they going to do, win a case on their own ?!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Sure. I wonder how long it is though until someone starts getting the idea to sell NFL players suspension insurance << poster child for ininsurable risk.
mircea_popescu: in general insurance works for fields where the insured can't change the occurence rate.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed. But Football is like the Bezzel lab.
mircea_popescu: http://readysetwhoa.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/puffin3.jpg << he looks so fucking sad, too
mircea_popescu: what the fuck would it take to make that asshole happy ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah but gisele won't last
mircea_popescu: o oops... he won't either.
nubbins`: a bigger beak
nubbins`: oh, there IS a scotland bet, it's just closed pending
mircea_popescu: jurov: mircea_popescu: X.EUR expired on september 15th anyway << yeas.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo yeah but gisele won't last << Very true. The recluse thing is never very lucrative for persons who want to be treated like sculptures.
BingoBoingo: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00074592 / 0.00075156 / 0.00075526 (879243 shares, 660.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00074592 / 0.00075856 / 0.00076945 (4139195 shares, 3,139.86 BTC), 30D: 0.00059659 / 0.00073939 / 0.00086605 (16383951 shares, 12,114.16 BTC)
assbot: jenninsea +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what the fuck would it take to make that asshole happy ? << hands... and a refrigerator. Dude has to fucking binge eat and still risk starving next week.
jurov: !up jenninsea
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: no bitbet for scotland seceding? < make it i guess ?
jenninsea: thanks jurov
jurov: http://urbit.org/ lol
assbot: Urbit
jurov: jenninsea you wanted to say something?
jenninsea: just trying to set up wot - i have no ranking right now
mircea_popescu: what it went gold ?
BingoBoingo: ;;ident jenninsea
gribble: Nick 'jenninsea', with hostmask 'jenninsea!~jenninsea@c-24-16-188-43.hsd1.wa.comcast.net', is identified as user 'jenninsea', with GPG key id 7D086E89462A4255, key fingerprint 89B1069E568B77CC73598B4A7D086E89462A4255, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: "Urbit is unlaunched. Not that we ever launched it. It leaked. A leak is not a launch; a construction site is not a house." such typical overconfident yet irresponsible derp bs.
BingoBoingo: ;;rate jenninsea 1 #b-a +v easy come easy go
mircea_popescu: "here's the supergreat thing.". "o no i never said anything".
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jenninsea has been recorded.
jenninsea: awesome, thanks
BingoBoingo: The other bullshit is there's a number of contruction sites much more habitable than houses
mircea_popescu: i never wanted to whip and cane women like i want to whip and cane this sort of yarvin fuckwit.
mircea_popescu: and i do enjoy caning women.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck happened to "I failed. I overestimated my cognitive ability and misjudged our abilities. This is because I suck. I am going to sit in a corner for a little bit, suck the cock of much better men and maybe come back later. Perhaps as a girl."
BingoBoingo: jenninsea: You're welcome. Just be aware that since the FBI knocked on my door I've been a bit more paranoid than typical, hence the easy come easy go caveat http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/
assbot: A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared | Bingo Blog
mircea_popescu: gotta be "oh, we never actually tried."
BingoBoingo: I still don't understand why Yarvin fucking did "Jets" as his fallback to x86 derivatives sucking
mircea_popescu: for the same fundamental reason.
jenninsea: ah, understandable, BingoBoingo. sorry to hear about the nasty visit
mircea_popescu: laziness + entitlement -> jets.
BingoBoingo: jenninsea: It happens. Just if it happens to you plz disclose.
mircea_popescu: or w/e they may be, the handwave of the field.
jenninsea: will do
BingoBoingo: One of the most disappointing name collisions has to been the suckage systemd vs. the awesome System D
nubbins`: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1615433/000161543314000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml
assbot: SEC FORM D
BingoBoingo: What befuddles me is why with Moores law on its last legs there are not Startups with ideas they want to etch in silicon.
mircea_popescu: the freakshow startups despise any seriou swork ; the actual startups you don't hear about, they hear about you.
kdomanski: that and you can't learn that kind of engineering while drunk in a harvard dorm
BingoBoingo: kdomanski: You can learn it drunk though
kdomanski: true
BingoBoingo: Just not on Left Coast #1
mircea_popescu: kdomanski plenty of decent engineers were drunks, actually
mircea_popescu: but i suppose i'm attacking the wrong qualifier. yeah, you can't learn that kind of engineering at harvard.
mircea_popescu: drunk or not, in class or in the dorm.
mircea_popescu: ;;ud AFC
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AFC | An AFC in a bar with gorgeous women would sit in the corner, and ask himself " why aren't they coming up to me." When he should be going up to them, but wont  ...
mircea_popescu: loser not good enough for geny or wtf.
ben_vulpes: geny?
mircea_popescu: kids born after the world stopped being cool
mircea_popescu: sometime during clinton
BingoBoingo: I was born during the Reagan presidency, but after his brain died.
mircea_popescu: funny how the skirt cumrag guy is probably going to end up remembered as the augustulus v2.0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.18499999 = 0.555 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Clinton's moar a Julius, Bush II is the brief confusion, and Obummer is the Augustus 2.0
BingoBoingo: So funny story.
BingoBoingo: On the radio now, I often hear the Ferguson insurgents being refered to as Terrorists.
mircea_popescu: augustulus mind.
BingoBoingo dictionaries
mircea_popescu: child pushed forward by his father (originally, wife in the reenaction)
BingoBoingo made an ass of himself, assuming he was living in the BC/AD transition
mircea_popescu: "Beware the guy with too many or exclusively female friends. This might make for the plot of stupid movies, but most women are wary of guys with so many female friends that they question their being able to relate with and be Men."
mircea_popescu: that's the dumbest thing i read all day.
mats_cd03: hooray, i have reacquired personhood
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: Found your soul?
mircea_popescu: wd!
mats_cd03: i finally got around to recovering my gpg keys from the dead drive.
mats_cd03: and now for backups