Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, we need more cam 4 btc websites.
Dimsler: srs answer to srs question
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ i like mpex, bitbet, s.nsa, war of life, minigame etc.
JuliaTourianski_: +mircea_popescu haven't heard of any of those. probably a good sign
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Dimsler: BCB, i was just playing sarcastaball with Julia
BCB: JuliaTourianski_: The conferences are place where guys pump there Press Releases looking for dumb money.
Dimsler: the conferences are for people without bitcoins
Dimsler: to pump up the price of my coins
Dimsler: with empty promises and shinanigans
BCB: Dimsler: I think it's a great use case but it's not catching on yet.
Duffer1: how many phone numbers can you get?
BCB: JuliaTourianski_: They are all the same after a while. Same speakers. Same stories. Same empty promises
Dimsler: lol when do we get your number?
JuliaTourianski_: that's an easy thing to predict though. im not that easily entertained
BCB: JuliaTourianski_: which conferences have you been to so far
BCB: Vegas was a shit show last year
kakobrekla think julia might be a good candidate for ba reception
JuliaTourianski_: i learned a lot at each one, not from the conference itself tho
BCB: The Inside Media/Mackler Media show suck
Dimsler: did you learn the part about how each of those conferences
Dimsler: has this particulate stench of greed
Dimsler: lol i once heard a guy tell me that he can't wait for the $50k/btc
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, current serious projects at this point are mostly in limbo
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Dimsler: ironcing out the kinks in better exchanging
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, unless you're refering to developments in blockchain itself
Dimsler: if you want to artculate the blockchain as its own entity, then theres a few projects on contracts and signatures, and encryption
JuliaTourianski_: +Dimsler indeed. blockchain dev has been very slow and for good reason. maybe VIAcoin will help. permisionless dev...testing ground of sorts could be helpful
Dimsler: altcoins are things to be extremely wearyoff
BCB: Duffer1: Layover in Istanbul ??
Dimsler: very few provide even a proof of concept
JuliaTourianski_: +Dimsler foundation simply pushed for payment improvements it seems
Dimsler: the founation at this point has little say
Duffer1: bcb hehe it's not my shindig ask MP
Dimsler: bitcoin is at a poitn where it operates rather autonomously
Dimsler: and anyone who needs bitcoin at this point already knows about it
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
Dimsler: hence the stagnated growth / wallet creation rate
decimation: I don't accept that growth is a valid measure of bitcoin's 'success'
Dimsler: bitcoin is already a success
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9970 @ 0.00074895 = 7.467 BTC [-]
Dimsler: but the cost per transaction is still high
Dimsler: need to get back down to $1-2
kakobrekla: i _can_ send any amount for free. anyone can.
Dimsler: well no don't sell that line to Julia
Dimsler: shes probably more interested about the actual inner workings
HeySteve: decimation, that link was funnier when I thought it referred to the black market
kakobrekla: (if its not clear to anyone, the trick is in the size and shape of unspent outputs)
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: But that one is spelt with a space and a Capital D
HeySteve: true but people waving "boycott Silk Road now!" banners is an amusing thought
Dimsler: i think SK 2.0 is so fucking massive
HeySteve: did they pay back everything yet?
Duffer1: wasteland isn't as good as fallout :(
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assbot: Slaves of England » Golem XIV - Thoughts
mircea_popescu: * kakobrekla think julia might be a good candidate for ba reception << more practical to get local girls.
mircea_popescu: <Dimsler> current serious projects at this point are mostly in limbo << nope.
Duffer1: it's possible, my memory is not so good, but i believe i would have remembered that
assbot: A word about banks and the laundering of drug money » Golem XIV - Thoughts
mircea_popescu: BCB: Duffer1: Layover in Istanbul ?? << istanbul is lovely. ever been ?
Duffer1: i've never been out of the states
mats_cd03: not sure really. he writes things, i read them, and sometimes im happy
assbot: The Disloyal » Golem XIV - Thoughts
mircea_popescu: "Needless to say these banks tend to be big banks – our banks. "
mats_cd03: perhaps i will leave him a mail, to put him on the right path
mircea_popescu: "I was in Timisoara Romania last week. Timisoara is a city of roughly 320k people on the Western edge of Romania. On the drive in to the city I was struck by the huge number of different banks I kept passing."
mircea_popescu: "because i tend to confuse tiny 500 sq feet retail bnaking outlets" with "banks"
mircea_popescu: "When I asked a group of a dozen of the city’s affluent professional class about the number of banks, they smiled and said"
mircea_popescu: "because i confuse kids with iphones working for alcatel doing tech support for 400e a month for affluent and professional"
mats_cd03: on the other hand, i am also new here and perhaps i should listen more and type less.
mircea_popescu: guy can't hurt anything, but he's likely to get very pissed off and leave in a huff
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5845 @ 0.00074938 = 4.3801 BTC [+]
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 295074.81 in 918 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -84.29
assbot: SEC to pay $30 million in largest-ever whistleblower award - Chicago Tribune
hanbot: i wonder how long before people aspire to be whistleblowers 'stead of ceos
mircea_popescu: "Francis Fukuyama, in The Great Disruption, pretends to seek ways to reverse the “Great Disruption” of the Cultural Revolution, but then admits that there’s no way to restore the most important single aspect of our disrupted culture—sexual morality and monogamy. Furthermore, Fukuyama makes it clear that this is just fine with him."
mircea_popescu: where the fuck does this idiotic conflation of chastity and morality come from.
mircea_popescu: the logical equivalent would be to prosecute nonvegetarians for theft.
atcbot: Time Since Last ATC Block (#45450): 1 hour(s), 5 minutes
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 12.22 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.22 TH/s
danielpbarron: depends what is meant by chastity, but I'd say the Bible
danielpbarron: it's not that sexual intercourse is immoral; just certain kinds..
mircea_popescu: "morality and monogamy" ? that's not biblical. it's not even mahomedanic.
danielpbarron: that's one of the things so many false christians get hung up on; that most of the big names in the Bible had multiple wives and concubines (slave wives), and God never scolded them for it
danielpbarron: i like to use the plural "wives" when discussing my hypothetical future to see what kind of expression people make
danielpbarron: yep and then I get to tell them about how mormonism is a false gospel
mats_cd03: dpb is a rl troll. i guess that makes sense
danielpbarron: what does "troll" even mean? I honestly believe the offensive things I say.
Vexual: like morolity and madness, the internet has over half the voters
mircea_popescu: "someone i'd rather ignore" is probably the extension of it.
danielpbarron: it's like the word "cult;" it means "i don 't like you."
mircea_popescu: no, cult means "you're proceeding on software that I have nothing to do with and don't want anything to do with"
Vexual: islamic state is called a death cult here n state news
mats_cd03: i take it back, you are simply living a genuine life
mats_cd03: a rare thing in christians, in my experience
danielpbarron: so rare I've only ever met a few others who feel the same
mats_cd03: ma n pa being clergy, this is true praise.
Vexual: asciilifeform:" mircea_popescu: i can't have been the only boy who wanted a game machine that would physically damage you when you fuck up..." i reckons a week on lemonade stand hooked up to a taser should be some kinda mba equivalence
mats_cd03: on the subject of MBAs, i emptied a 'bitcoin atm' with 1.1btc operated by LibertyTeller the other day
mats_cd03: self funded by... wharton MBAs. i mean to empty them again and see how long the machines stick around
Vexual: do you mean you put dollar bills in?
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Vexual: what rate did you get?
Vexual: tommorrow it'll have 1.2
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11237 @ 0.00075016 = 8.4295 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: do any of those fuckers take coins?
mats_cd03: no, that would probably 'enable money laundering' or something equally ludicrous
Vexual: yeah, i was thinking one could get all their wives and kids and cats and shit on the board of a non profit
mats_cd03: i tried to use a 2way btc atm at the hacker dojo in silicon valley
mats_cd03: iirc it needed palm print photo and govt id
mats_cd03: that is - palm print, photo, n govt id. 3 items.
Vexual: i don't have to do any of that if i choose to drop my loose change in the donation bag on a plane
Vexual: and you can bet more hat 10pc goes to someones wife
mats_cd03: dunno, i didn't, too orweillian for my taste
mats_cd03: if they went for just govt id i may have considered it
decimation: what recourse would a human have if they stole his credentials and used them criminally?
Vexual: they'd cash in a 20c priv key on the inside of a condom wrapper tho
mircea_popescu: decimation that they'd prolly not do it to just one human
Vexual: i think the recourse for steling a palm print might in fact be a palm print
mircea_popescu: fly0nth3wal1 listen fix your connection because all this join part spam wil result in a ban sooner or later.
Dimsler: lol looks like he just left and joined once?
ben_vulpes: i want to timestamp a thing, i just put the hash of the latest block in in it and then sign the fucker. counterparty ibid, presto, contract pinned to blockchain.
ben_vulpes: now, a specific block in the chain - that means something.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes supposedly something that's going to automate that is getting delivered this month
ben_vulpes: i tell ya, if i and my counterparty agree on a block, what's the point?
ben_vulpes: whose computer, what tz, and why even bother with time?
mircea_popescu: no, because a digest of your thing will be included in a block.
mircea_popescu: so it becomes part of the blockchain notion of time, and verifyably so.
ben_vulpes: digest of thing is related to time how?
ben_vulpes is frantically searching on digest algos
ben_vulpes: the point i'm making (poorly) is that the block is a nifty fundamental unit of time.
ben_vulpes: not terribly useful for measuring, say, stamina in bed
ben_vulpes: but adequate for pinning events to history.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> digest of thing is related to time how? << by being a tx in a block
ben_vulpes: when it was found? broadcast? accepted by first node? achieved 51% acceptance?
ben_vulpes: even "time" must bow to the blockchain.
ben_vulpes: A timestamp is accepted as valid if it is greater than the median timestamp of previous 11 blocks, and less than the network-adjusted time + 2 hours. "Network-adjusted time" is the median of the timestamps returned by all nodes connected to you.
ben_vulpes: now, clearly, i'm not reading source right now.
mircea_popescu: these are block accepting rules. irrespective of this, all blocks contain a timestamp.
mircea_popescu: once a block is part of the blockchain, its timestamp as declared is part of the history of the world
ben_vulpes: i'm rolling my eyes so hard at you my head hurts
mircea_popescu: if block 322121says it's been mined on 2014-09-23 03:24:19, then that's what it is.
ben_vulpes: that just means that the consensual time thing is poorly fucking engineered.
mircea_popescu: it just means the previous, fiat approach to creating an arbitrary timeline has been replaced by a bitcoin, similarly arbitrary approach
ben_vulpes: still, rolling eyes. the only important thing is which block the event confirmed in.
ben_vulpes: if you need precise time measures, watch an atom wobble. if you need "thing happened at time", measure it by block number.
mircea_popescu: my observation was that as long as you're implementing this, you're better off with the b-a registrar than with your "include block hash and sign"
mircea_popescu: because the include block hash only puts a minimum into the pie, not a maximum. the deeds registrar does both.
ben_vulpes: registrar doth not confer time magically, though
mircea_popescu: and that is what time means anyway, entirely, as discussed above.
ben_vulpes: which supports my point of block interval as fundamental unit of time.
ben_vulpes: anyways, the butternut squash and ricotta gnocchi are up and i'm caught up on logs so meditate on what else beyond time bitcoin might break on its wheel y'all.
ben_vulpes: (and hey - what's Vexual doing on so early!?)
Vexual: thinking about relativity as allways
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9032 @ 0.00075238 = 6.7955 BTC [+] {2}
xmj: ben_vulpes: you're drunk right?
Vexual: don't ask that, hes the boss
xmj: asciilifeform: work drink is when your boss forces you to have wine or beer during lunch, then watches how you work in the afternoon and fires your lazy ass in the evening.
Vexual: perhaps like a good cup of tea where nothing goes wrong asccii
Vexual: bitch gave kakobrekla a sense of humour
Vexual: it might stil put "whos your daddy" in my vanacular
Vexual: i missed bashing some excellent kako jokes
gribble: genjix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 50 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <genjix> nefario is legit. for sure there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get their bitcoins back. i trust the guy.
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 51 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, 3 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Vexual: i hope he insured his shit
Vexual: poor catchers undead kids
midnightmagic: BingoBoingo: what happens there? why isn't the guy running for 1st? is that one of those auto-outs..?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4544 @ 0.00074945 = 3.4055 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: hes not runnign anyplaces
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: Looks like a foul. Wasn't quite caught, so doubt it is a foul tip.
Vexual: well he might pick it up and throw it
gribble: Time since last block: 15 minutes and 48 seconds
gribble: Current Blocks: 322136 | Current Difficulty: 2.9829733124040417E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 322559 | Next Difficulty In: 423 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35062434960.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.5419
Vexual: fifteen minutes an fourty three seconds, struth mate
Vexual: whos ever seen ball lightning?
gribble: Time since last block: 18 seconds
xmj: Vexual: are you bored?
Vexual: ill be playing spiderbait next if it suits
xmj: well i'll just revert to plonking you
Vexual: do wee need a commerorative poster?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10821 @ 0.00074871 = 8.1018 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8374 @ 0.00075006 = 6.281 BTC [+]
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jurov: even my lesbian friends considered this utterly disgusting
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00067125 = 0.6713 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9208 @ 0.00067104 = 6.1789 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4128 @ 0.00075006 = 3.0962 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3398 @ 0.00075006 = 2.5487 BTC [+]
assbot: uselessd :: information system
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00075071 = 9.8718 BTC [+] {2}
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CheckDavid: I wanted to ask what you guys think about B2B email communications in the bitcoin industry
CheckDavid: Is plain text good, or are fancy HTML templates worth it?
chetty does not accept html format email, ever
CheckDavid: Personally I don't care for fancy emails
CheckDavid: Wastes over an hour to make HTML emails
chetty: well be aware that most people will not accept html formats, any one with sense that is
jurov: CheckDavid send him to verious btc conferences. At least you'll get rid of him for a time.
jurov: You will never get in touch with someone who matters by spamming.
CheckDavid: jurov: that's masterful social engineering. But is there.more than just getting rid of him? Lol
CheckDavid: Oh jurov. I am not spamming. At least not now.
jurov: you can at least say here what you're gonna mailing about
CheckDavid: I am managing some communicational efforts for a Recruiting agency
jurov: you know, I got lots of spam about "IBM jobs offers". your offer will end up in the trash promptly together with them
CheckDavid: jurov: I can. I am gauging for the demand bitcoin businesses have for certain professionals. Depending on each business needs, I will send an personalized email accounting for their vacancies
jurov: dude there are few people seeking gigs. no need to be obtuse
CheckDavid: Not really because we already have a database of job seekers.
jurov: do you need sysadmin or coder or? which company? how much $$$?
CheckDavid: jurov: you want to know about our job.offers?
jurov: perhaps something will pique my interest. and there are more such people in this chan
jurov: but if you insist emailing reddit herd or such, that's up to you
CheckDavid: Oh. I definitely will communicate interesting job offers to anyone interested. But now I am on a phase of building a base of employers in the bitcoin community
jurov: in other words, you're cooking stone soup
jurov: (some call it axe soup)
CheckDavid: jurov: the capital of stone soup is in my country lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00074859 = 3.2564 BTC [-]
punkman: chetty, any designers hanging around #eulora?
assbot: Ode to Julia – Bitcoin Magazine
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell JuliaTourianski_ whereabouts in canada are you living?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ahjahaha what ? pete meets a neonazi ? lmao. << gotta stir the pot, y'know?
assbot: Tte--Tte With A Neo-National Socialist | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: there's no sense in holding "a people" or "a community" liable for actions of their ancestors, is there? << sorta depends, did "the people" meaningfully change since their ancestors? do they still tie up their shoes the same way? still read the same books? time doesn't necessitate change.
pete_dushenski: if no change, then it depends on how useful holding descendants accountable is.
jurov: it's US who didn't change?
pete_dushenski: and surely whether or not they hold "the other" accountable for the actions of their forefathers
pete_dushenski: but in this specific instance, it's not clear that either has changed.
jurov: we can actually hold our forefathers accountable but rarely anyone does
pete_dushenski: if they're dead, we can choose to ignore their actions and pretend like tabula rasas are possible
pete_dushenski: this, of course, opens one up to being twist turned upside down
pete_dushenski: be it by rationalist, scientistic ideals or what have you
pete_dushenski: so while "rarely anyone does" in the post 19th century west, most other times and places take their ancestors quite seriously
pete_dushenski: this lends itself to continuity, stability, and other "good things" imo
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform thank you for recommending "the sultans" !
mircea_popescu: also wow, she's still connected off a freenode instance ? what the fuck industrial strength internet they have down at the russian bathhouse!
pete_dushenski: lol russian bathhouse? thought she was in the 52nd state
Azelphur: Is everyone still hating on genjix? XD
Azelphur: I always feel like the only person who actually likes him
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla +mircea_popescu didn;t see that sorry- you guys do realize I literally know evryone in the space and am "associated" with everyone, depending on how you look at it. << this is gold
pete_dushenski: Azelphur: nah see JuliaTourianski_ and you have that in common ;)
Azelphur: but nah, I agree he was a terrible businessman, but then nobody should have put him in a business position anyway, he's a programmer
mircea_popescu: by his idiotic if contemporaneously fashionable insistance on fluff and i can do anythingism,.
mircea_popescu: i told him to stfu and mind his own business like 3 times.
mircea_popescu: but hey, kids know better and i am just hating their genius.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: haha, over the years I've learned you're generally right about these things :P
Azelphur: I still don't think genjix should be discounted as a programmer though, he's a damned good one and that'd be one hell of a waste.
mircea_popescu: too much cognitive dissonance to handle, 500 idiots keep telling them how special they are then mp says stfu and crochet.
mircea_popescu: kinda well known psychology, this, hence the memory effect and all that.
pete_dushenski: Dimsler: i knew vitalik when he was in waterloo. buying bitcoins off me << lol!
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid: Sincerely don't know. << nobody EVER liked html email. and there's a pretty good argument that it's completely a tech misapplication, like the cigarette lighter oven.
mircea_popescu: you don't need or want an oven to light your cigarette.
Azelphur: I've met taaki a couple times now
Azelphur: his family lives just around the corner from me
mircea_popescu: jurov: CheckDavid send him to verious btc conferences. At least you'll get rid of him for a time. << i like how practical jurov is. yeah, best move there.
mircea_popescu: with any luck he'll be hired away from you and it's win-win.
mircea_popescu: "Join the Freelancer Shareholder Foundation Program and get a discount on WSO listing fees"
assbot: Azelphur/django-bcauth GitHub
mircea_popescu: look at that, freelancer.com is spamming unregistered share sales offers!
mircea_popescu wonders if the SEC, ever so careful with these things, is yet investigating the underhanded practices of matt barrie &co
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it's just that the gear switch from derpyland to btcland is bound to culture shock a little. << on the moolah
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: if no change, then it depends on how useful holding descendants accountable is. < no, i'm with him. this makes exactly zero sense, chiefly because a group may be ridiculous, impractical, suicidal, anything you wish, but never wrong. only individuals can be wrong, in that they don't subscribe to the moral scheme of some group they intend to be part of. ther
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ancestors need not be a group or identify themselves as part of one
mircea_popescu: but you identified them as a group not as individuals.
pete_dushenski: ancestors can be individuals who spawned further individuals
pete_dushenski: you're right, i did, and now i'm exploiting the escape hatch in my own reasoning
mircea_popescu: if i say "b-a cannucks" i create one group, if i say " pete_dushenski, nubbins, [...]" i create a group with the same members, but through a different method, which makes it in fact a different group for this conversation.
mats_cd03: spoiler: CheckDavid is his own boss
assbot: BitBet - 20% difficulty increase before 2015 :: 9.39 B (60%) on Yes, 6.39 B (40%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 74`958 (100`000 to 1`000)
gribble: Current Blocks: 322181 | Current Difficulty: 2.9829733124040417E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 322559 | Next Difficulty In: 378 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 7 hours, 39 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34912851483.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.04044
mircea_popescu: it's perhaps the best display of the fundamental incalculability of bitcoin events.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00074849 = 11.1899 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: note that this was more of a fun play rather anything else
kakobrekla: the funny thing is - its not much off :)
mircea_popescu: also, as previously announced, the extra 2mn S.BBET shares were distributed to owners.
assbot: Ex-Post: Toronto Bitcoin Expo | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> or mind extending it to today ? < mebbe when i have more time
kakobrekla: this two were evolved after only a day or two iirc
pete_dushenski: "Up for grabs are 2 bitcoins hidden in 30 different brainwallets. Search for clues in the RushWallet Fundraiser video to unlock each wallet and claim the bitcoins. "
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4384 @ 0.00074975 = 3.2869 BTC [+]
mats_cd03: some of 'em have 0.05, 0.1, & 1.0 apparently.
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: thanks for the input. In your perspective is there any value in HTML emails?
CheckDavid: So you think it generally converts less right?
mircea_popescu: for one thing, most clients people actually use don't even render html.
mircea_popescu: so you end up wit ha pile of cruft that just guarantees you rejected.
CheckDavid: Most web clients do. And many desktop and.mobile clients do as well
mircea_popescu: most people doing anything worth the mention have been using email since before 2000.
CheckDavid: I just want to convince my boss to not use HTML
mircea_popescu: if you imagine they all moved to google because google, you're new here.
mircea_popescu: sure, you can talk to the under 30 crowd on html email.
bounce has a serious problem taking people seriously if they do stupid stuff like send html for no reason, or top-post, or any number of boneheaded things that the aol generation does with gay abandon
bounce: aol started the deluge
bounce: 72 cols fixed pitch is the standing assumption
bounce: "> " is the typical quote indicator, though it gets replaced or simply represented differently at times.
assbot: Re: Theory #51 (superior(?) programming languages) - Naggum cll archive
bounce: just like "-- " indicates the start of the signature, and a good mail client won't quote that. there's very few good mail clients in wide use these days.
mircea_popescu: anyway, dear all : i'll be taking a trip. see you all tomorrows!
CheckDavid: I see mircea_popescu. So you saying formatting should be limited to that
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bounce: your search keyword of the day: "netiquette"
bounce: could do worse than start with reading RFC1855
mats_cd03: i have suspended the blacklights from the ceiling
mats_cd03: white Ts and glo paint are en route
assbot: The Empire Is The Good Guys, Revisited | Creative Destruction
bounce: this looks a different piece than "the case for the empire", which appears to be older
assbot: Analysis of the bathroom mystery. - Imgur
Namworld: Eh, it's dead time of the day isn't it?
CheckDavid: How can bitpay have more profit than sales ?
kakobrekla: Guest26284 , you wanna do /nick yournick
Guest26284: I've done that and it's not working erk
Guest26284: -NickServ- You are now identified for.... and then im still guest
xmj: Guest26284: /msg nickserv release <nick> helps
kakobrekla: imma guess you didnt /msg nickserv identify in time
xmj: dont remember, prolly
xmj: /msg nickserv help release
kakobrekla: the thing is, if you dont identify in time, it will lock you out for some time
kakobrekla: you can wait or go around it with release
Guest26284: how fast do u have to do it, dont think i waiting that long
ben_vulpes: all things considered, barack obama's really inspiring
ben_vulpes: i mean he caught a nobel peace price, but eventually overcame it
assbot: Feds say Bitcoin miner maker Butterfly Labs ran systematic deception | Ars Technica
Duffer1: "BFL spent millions on massages, guns, and more"
xmj: guntha_: there's plugins to auto identify you once nickserv asks for it
mats_cd03: on the one hand, potus is killing brown people and oppressing white people
mats_cd03: on the other hand, obamacare has and will heal a lot of poor
thestringpuller: ;;later tell hanbot I want to see the look on bfl_josh's face.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 986 @ 0.0006086 = 0.6001 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00074485 / 0.00074853 / 0.00075257 (415230 shares, 310.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00074485 / 0.0007502 / 0.00075526 (4175975 shares, 3,132.82 BTC), 30D: 0.00059659 / 0.00075921 / 0.00086605 (16104012 shares, 12,226.39 BTC)
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
empyex: thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Bids: 20124 @ 0.00074846 9350 @ 0.00074835 12900 @ 0.00074768 6558 @ 0.00074692
empyex: thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Asks: 4966 @ 0.00074975 15600 @ 0.00075110 6797 @ 0.00075257 21815 @ 0.00075384
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00074975 BTC [+]
mats_cd03: that Bitcoin Ladder page needs an update... 19 months since last change
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 0.82799136 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 72 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.27252613 BTC to 15`097 shares, 8429 satoshi per share
assbot: Backblaze Blog » Hard Drive Reliability Update – Sep 2014
atcbot: Time Since Last BTC Block (#322194): 0 hour(s), 5 minutes
gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 57 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 230 @ 0.0075 = 1.725 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00074846 = 10.2539 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2113 @ 0.00058673 = 1.2398 BTC [-] {23}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00074975 = 2.5492 BTC [+]
assbot: jQuery.com Malware Attack Puts Privileged Enterprise IT Accounts at Risk | RiskIQ.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 2200 @ 0.0075 = 16.5 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "PayPal has announced partnerships with the three largest payment processors in the bitcoin space – BitPay, Coinbase and GoCoin."
assbot: PayPal Takes Baby Step Toward Bitcoin, Partners With Cryptocurrency Processors - Forbes
ThickAsThieves: "...to accept the cryptocurrency for digital goods like online games and downloadable songs. It’s a second baby step for the payments giant toward full Bitcoin adoption ..."
Duffer1: ah so that's why the rally
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01119999 = 0.56 BTC [+]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 414.49, Best ask: 414.92, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 414.92, 24 hour volume: 11889.97164427, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 414.93, 24 hour vwap: 401.279180206
Duffer1: pretty weak news for such a rally
TomServo: That's what I was thinking. I'd rather see some FOIA results.
Duffer1: i agree, but it's a rather small touch
ThickAsThieves: hence why I closed all my shorts and such over the weekend :)
jurov: ofc, rally a hour after i sold some
ThickAsThieves: it looks like you have to have a coinbase wallet or such
assbot: Seite nicht gefunden - PayPal Deutschland
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 428.0, Best ask: 430.86, Bid-ask spread: 2.86000, Last trade: 431.11, 24 hour volume: 14387.31775314, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 431.11, 24 hour vwap: 405.55456255
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November"
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Duffer1: back for round 2 JuliaTourianski_ ? :D
danielpbarron slaps JuliaTourianski_ around a bit with a large unspent output
ben_vulpes: wow you're crushing hard danielpbarron
danielpbarron slaps ben_vulpes around a bit with a large self projection
assbot: Big Pun - Still not a player - YouTube
assbot: Yung Jake - Datamosh - YouTube
thestringpuller: LOL. I love how there is a Tyler the Creator song in the related search.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 437.27, Best ask: 438.03, Bid-ask spread: 0.76000, Last trade: 438.03, 24 hour volume: 22361.75362852, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 450.0, 24 hour vwap: 417.838247521
ben_vulpes: from the girl: "A cool thing I discovered is that squash makes the bechamel almost kraft colored, so if we ever have children who refuse to eat white mac n cheese, I can TRICK THEM"
ben_vulpes: "I bet yams would make it even oranger. God, imagine the foodie irony such children present: I will make a roasted vegetable bechamel cheese sauce to appease your desire for processed American food products"
ben_vulpes: "these hypothetical children are guests of our children, obviously. Our progeny will have refined palettes before they can hold a crayon."
TomServo tries to imagine a child not licking mac n cheese.
BingoBoingo: I believe the traditional adultrant for that purpose is annatto
assbot: Chelsea Manning Sues U.S. Over Hormone Therapy Denial - Bloomberg
mats_cd03: ben_vulpes: you found this girl in portland i suppose?
assbot: Obama Extends His YouTube War - The New Yorker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 435.54, Best ask: 435.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 435.54, 24 hour volume: 22622.98484045, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 450.0, 24 hour vwap: 418.809047247
pete_dushenski: mp_sails: so how long of a cruise are you taking that you lugged a laptop along?
mp_sails: i have this in common with your top clearance defense contractor : that i lug a stack of laptops.
mp_sails: my own little caravan of sorts.
pete_dushenski: speaking of laptops, til that the macbook air's ssd is of a mystery brand until you personally crack open the unibody case and look inside
pete_dushenski: that hard drive annual failure rate thing had me hunting
xanthyos: woah, i'm in assbot's l1? i don't deserve that.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hm what's a "normal block device" and what does it do?
mp_sails: CheckDavid: How can bitpay have more profit than sales ? << lmao
xanthyos: isnt' that what it takes to get voiced?
mp_sails: mike_c, yes but its gotta be once im at hq :)
assbot: The Bitcoin Lordship list, first revision pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mp_sails: olil3olli3, dude srsly stop with the join spam
mp_sails: assbot: Feds say Bitcoin miner maker Butterfly Labs ran systematic deception | Ars Technica << and only two years late.
mp_sails: mats_cd03: on the other hand, obamacare has and will heal a lot of poor << obamacare is sort-of like that thing where they destroy a neighbourhood, build a huge condo complex and give five activist "poor" people free housing.
mp_sails: a) it has not helped a lot of poor and b) all the unhelped poor that were fine before are suddenly "unnacounted" for.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: an ssd isn't as effective at writing and reading? then from where do they derive their speed benefits?
mp_sails: nothing mixed about it unless you mean mixed bullshit, horse shit and plain manure salad.
mats_cd03: convince me with data, now or in a few years
mp_sails: mats_cd03, easy to convince you now : the obamacare website was offline for months after it supposedly launched,
mp_sails: and then a year later had 10k or so signups a month.
JuliaTourianski_: pete_dushenski were you asking where I'm from or was that someone else
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: your explanation has more than sufficed for the time being, ty :)
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: mhm, then i kept reading the logs and saw missisauga, neh?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5103 @ 0.00053291 = 2.7194 BTC [-] {21}
mp_sails: mats_cd03, look into the crazed effects on the lower middle class, where people who could afford insurance before can't anymore, too. because htey're now not poor enough to be poor and not rich enough to be rich.
assbot: AnandTech | The SSD Anthology: Understanding SSDs and New Drives from OCZ - Print View
mp_sails: jurov: ofc, rally a hour after i sold some << lol you and artifex should make a sellers and movers club :D
mp_sails: like movers and shakers, but different.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 140 @ 0.01119998 = 1.568 BTC [+] {2}
mp_sails: asciilifeform, this is complicated.
mp_sails: for instance : when i visited the us, i got insurance for pretty much everything except electives.
bounce: this has been such a pile of fail that I've been ignoring it. I don't suppose anything actually improved measurably, did it?
mp_sails: it cost me, get a load of this, it cost me ~100 pounds for a year's worth
mp_sails: bounce, no, but by now nothing is failing spectacularly further, so the propaganda machine is gearing up to counting it as a success.
mp_sails: like the bridge that fell into the river. once done falling, it's ready to be inaugurated.
mp_sails: asciilifeform, i can see your point, byt it was underwritten by lloyds of london. i give it some credence.
mp_sails: (on the grounds that they did cover say a boat once, and behaved as an insurer as opposed to what passes for such in the us)
bounce: well, there's good advice. get your US insurance at lloyd's
mp_sails: this was many years ago. not sure they even offer it sanymore.
mp_sails: asciilifeform, im not entirely sure how all the intricacies work but if memory serves they were actually legally barred from considering prior commercial relationship
mp_sails: as in, they can't give a better life policy to the guy who owns a shipping line they insure than to random clerk walking in off street.
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: a cool. how are you enjoying b-a thus far?
mp_sails: well yeah i guess there is that.
bounce: being a gourmet instead of a hcfs addict?
mthreat: mp_sails: porqué "_sails"?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00005156 = 0.5156 BTC [+] {5}
bounce: now you need DHMO to wash the evil CTCP out of your macbook
bounce: problem is, DHMO kills, so be careful
jborkl: I moved everything to ssl and it should all be green. You guys mind giving it a test and tell me if it all seems good
The20YearIRCloud: Insurance is a complicated mess in the US, it all started back when the govt first decided they should control healthcare
The20YearIRCloud: because the 'poor man' couldn't afford healthcare, which back then was 1/3rd the cost of what it was even factoring in inflation
mp_sails: i can't believe after all these years satellite is still this shitty.
jurov: The20YearIRCloud as i see it from here, the US doctors first decided they must control healthcare
mp_sails: mthreat, for because the navigational reason.
jurov: govt happily obliged
ben_vulpes: <mp_sails> mats_cd03, look into the crazed effects on the lower middle class, where people who could afford insurance before can't anymore, too. because htey're now not poor enough to be poor and not rich enough to be rich. << true story. i can't really afford the shit now.
mp_sails: jurov, doctors dont really control it tho
mp_sails: ben_vulpes, pretty much half or more of the young professional, 10-20mn people are in this position
mp_sails: tbh it'd be mjuch more sensible to jjust shoot everyone and keep these guys than the other way around.
mp_sails: the people you can't under any circumstance sacrifice are the 20somethings with a career.
mp_sails: doctors or farmers, whatever they be
The20YearIRCloud: IT was a part of Johnson's plan of buying all the poor people votes in the US by pushing through medicare/medicaid
BingoBoingo: jborkl: Lock apprears. Also, maybe update the BFL thing again...
The20YearIRCloud: From 1930-1963 median healthcare costs were lock-step with average inflation (1-3% a year), after 1964 suddenly you have increases of 4%-25% per year, every single year
mp_sails: asciilifeform, southern hemisphere is not that well illuminated anyway
The20YearIRCloud: After 1964 you also see dozens, if not hundreds of large-scale laws dealing with the medical industry, when prior there were few if any laws regarding healthcare in the US
mthreat: mp_sails: are you sailing?
jborkl: ok, thank you I have been busy fixing all the ssl crap and forgot about everything else
mp_sails: The20YearIRCloud, the most obvious display of this being if you compare say an emergency apendectomy in lyons and miami
mp_sails: mthreat, well no, im sitting an' typing, but im close to people that do.
mp_sails: if i actually sailed myself i'd prolly sink the whole show
The20YearIRCloud: In Miami when you pay for an emergency apendectomy, you're paying for an apendectomy for yourself and 3 other people
mp_sails: ambulance ride for half an hour, e800 or whatever. ya know ?
mp_sails: insanely expensive when compared to the e80 a cab would take, but not the $18k or whatever insanity
assbot: Why an MRI costs $1,080 in America and $280 in France - The Washington Post
The20YearIRCloud: There's a MRI comparison. What's interesting though is that MRIs are one of the few healthcare things that aren't strictly regulated in the US
The20YearIRCloud: But, when you go to a 'hospital' and get a MRI, they're $1k-$2.5k
mp_sails: and moreove,r most eu mri are done on... us gear.
mp_sails: somehow. and eu doctors are slightly overqualified when compared to us.
The20YearIRCloud: But, you don't have to go to a hospital to get one, you can go to a healthcare clinic that isn't attached to any government program, isn't required to pay any government fees and the like, and they magically cost $149, using newer machines
The20YearIRCloud: In Columbus, a group got together and called every single hospital, and every single MRI clinic and got the price for their MRI scans. The average hospital (Which is highly regulated, takes government money, is required by law to provide everyone with medical care regardless of whether they can pay and so on) ran from a minimum of $1600 to a maximum of
The20YearIRCloud: $2,500. The independent clinics that did MRIs and a few other small things ranged from $149 to the very highest at $279
mp_sails: which is about where igt is. i mean yeah sure the equipment is expensive and the staff has ot be qualified.
mp_sails: but you know what ? power plants are also expenmsive, and the staff qualified. yet the kwh is not $850
mp_sails: yet at least. maybe they elect al gore and it goes there.
The20YearIRCloud: Power plant isn't also required to give free electricity out. They can cut people off
mp_sails: they have to spend $1k to install fancy stuff so nonpayers can be "limited", it's a whole shitshow
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mp_sails: if you think you just cut power to the deadbeats and that's it you're living a dream.
The20YearIRCloud: mp_sails: looking real quick at what places do it, it seems NY and CA do that, but i can certify that in Ohio, they cut your power
mp_sails: well ok, i dunno ohio specifically.
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assbot: Please To PGP (Guide for Linux, OS X, Windows) | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
mp_sails: can't cu tpower if it's cold. or hot. or if the deadbeat has a doctor's note. or makes a promise to pay
The20YearIRCloud: Ohio has a freeze deal where if it's below freezing they won't shut it off till it thaws out, then they shut it off
The20YearIRCloud: The promise to pay for all the Ohio plants is pretty simple, if you can obtain credit they'll extend payment over summer months, but quite a few can't qualify for it
jurov: pete_dushenski: on linux, user usually installs gpg using package manager, not install it from source
mp_sails: unless you actually read code, the compile business is a little silly.
jurov: pete_dushenski: or you expressly want everyone to avoid gpg 2.0?
mp_sails: The20YearIRCloud, well cause im travelling
pete_dushenski: jurov: 2.0 is fine, but it doesn't work for older mac os x, so i ended up lumping linux in with 1.4
pete_dushenski: i don't know if 1.4 works with gpg services on >osx 10.6
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: but the command line operations only recognize .txt files, neh?
mp_sails: ben_vulpes: just want to bang on a drum all day? <<< i've never banged on a drum before...
mp_sails: tis a silly proposition, wtf has format to d owith anything ? this is unix not windows.
jurov: pete, the site you linked says about linux binaries "The following links direct you to external sites and those may provide old and possible very outdated versions of GnuPG."
jurov: so it's better to just say use package manager
mp_sails: in any case on;ly use SIGNED binaries.
mp_sails: and verify the signature is actually correct etc.
mp_sails: incidentally, this is a key service b-a should provide i think. maintain a repository of key software infrastructure, precompiled, signed.
kakobrekla: most often the signature and file is on same server which makes the whole thing kinda useless
assbot: The Spittoon - Pastebin.com
bounce: as long as the signing key isn't there, how is that proximity a problem?
jurov: btw as most package managers do use gpg to check packages, it is usually preinstalled
assbot: Sailing - Christopher Cross - YouTube
mp_sails: asciilifeform, i know, huge workload. but once btc is 800k i think ima hire a small office dedicatdd to it
mp_sails: <kakobrekla> most often the signature and file is on same server which makes the whole thing kinda useless << i mean, wot signature.
mp_sails: still, fact remains people grab a copy of gpg or w/e.
mp_sails: and the next chair on that pile is, proper github. ie, github with read wot.
mp_sails: that was the worst youtube experience ever mthreat. 3 seconds sound, 10 seconds buffering ftw.
mp_sails: bounce, every line of code bears the signature of all the people who read it and certify it's fine.
mp_sails: so you can set your package manager to disregard anything say w/o 3 assbot l2 trust.
bounce: chinesely interesting figuring out how to do that without exploding the store
mp_sails: asciilifeform, at the very least this is better than nothing. at the very best this goes all the way to chips.
bounce: unless you'd go for the obvious but inconvenient route of signing everything in a specific commit
mp_sails: ie, consumer group pressure power : either get your chips assbot-certified or don't sell to us.
mp_sails: bounce, agreed. which is why it's introduced as a chair for a chair for later on.
mp_sails: asciilifeform, investing in future infrastructure has us waiting for xmases.
mp_sails: practically speaking, practice will be a practical exercise.
mp_sails: ;;later tell jborkl if you keep doin this multiline spam of old posts hyou'll end up out of pinguirker
mp_sails: asciilifeform, well... what's one to do you know ?
mp_sails: ben_vulpes: "these hypothetical children are guests of our children, obviously. Our progeny will have refined palettes before they can hold a crayon." << o boy are you in for a crude soulraep.
mp_sails: asciilifeform, i'm the one they laugh at for "ux", whike they get owned with shitty riuby/java/what have you
mp_sails proud user of the museum paradigm.
bounce: oh the days of walking through (live) memory with a self-written memory dumper, or trawling the disk with whatwasit, norton or undelete, to see what old crap I'd deleted months ago
mp_sails: except the non-dos version had some bugs ruined some hdds
mp_sails: that was a lol. back in 1993 or w/e it was
mp_sails: when did windows nt come out again ?
bounce: this was drdos (5? with 4dos of course), so probably something slightly different again. did look at, but IIRC didn't keep a copy of the drdos 7 source when it got released.
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mp_sails: mthreat, how do you say decaulker in espanol ?
mp_sails: in retrospect, hard to believe it's been 20 years and ms is sgtill a thing.
bounce: needed quite the fsckton of tools to compile. TASM, MASM, BCC, whatever else. various versions even, they apparently weren't great at keeping a lid on the requirements mess.
BingoBoingo had a laptop arrive with manufacterer branded DOS 3.3 once
mp_sails: bounce, i remember the shock and awe when i noticed gwbasic can produce bytecode
mp_sails: "just like a real program!!11"
mp_sails: enky is very shy for some reason.
mthreat: mp_sails: decaulker? what is that? a tool that removes caulking?
mthreat: not sure in spanish, especially argentine spanish. according to google translate, "caulking" -> "calafateo", and "caulk" -> "masilla"
mthreat: maybe "un herramienta para sacar masilla o calafateo"
mthreat: ("a tool for removing caulking or caulk")
mp_sails: i now have a mindbreaking question for spanish speaking english ppl! yay.
bounce: probably don't want to remove that stuff while sailing
mp_sails: i collect those. once broke the will to live of a young girl teaching english at uni
mp_sails: by asking her to translate flail to romanian.
mp_sails: bounce, it's not my boat so...
mthreat: MP hobbies: cognac, bitcoin, breaking wills, ...
mp_sails: (flail is imblaciu in ro, the process a imblaci. it's such an obscure word pretty much only medieval tool specialists evne know it)
Namworld: Paypal is going to do... what?
mp_sails: nothing and make a pr thing about it.
mp_sails: well that'll be all for now, laters!
Namworld: It managed to make price go all derpy again.
Rassah: Surprised to see you here :)
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mats_cd03: ms announces bug bounty for vulns on its domains.
strpfndr: hi, BingoBoingo, thanks. nothing to say though.
strpfndr: ohhh, maybe I do :) Did I send you the application I'd sent to Breakout Labs?
strpfndr: (on the same subject we had discussed)
BingoBoingo: strpfndr: No, don't particular care to recieve it either.
assbot: BFL Statement FINAL 09 23 14
ben_vulpes: JuliaTourianski_: why'd you keep the underscore?
ben_vulpes: <mp_sails> if i actually sailed myself i'd prolly sink the whole show << daw it ain't that hard
ben_vulpes: mp_sails: just 'cause she claims it dun mean i buy it to any degree. larvae are larvae.
Duffer1: BUTTERFLY LABS RESPONSE more lies from lying liers
kakobrekla: alibaba is supposedly worth as much as all the properties in slovenia.
decimation: asciilifeform: re:existing infrastructure << I think openbsd refuses to support multiple cpus
ben_vulpes: JuliaTourianski_: talk to nanotube if you want it changed. say "please" - he's a nice guy.
bounce: IIRC you can do that yourself with gribble. also group the nick with nickserv
decimation: kakobrekla: I think I would rather own slovenia
BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: re:existing infrastructure << I think openbsd refuses to support multiple cpus << Come on they have a kernel that plays nice with multiprocessors
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah I must have been reading some old docs
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, maybe not that old. The thing is OpenBSD's multiprocessor handling is different than other people's really interesting subject.
assbot: openbsd user - misc - State of multiprocessing and multithreading in OpenBSD
assbot: Absolute OpenBSD, 2nd Edition: UNIX for the Practical Paranoid - Michael W. Lucas - Google Books