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bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: Do you have proof that Gavin and some
USG mole is trying to implement some attack on bitcoin? What has made you come to this conclusion?
mircea_popescu: unrelated to all of this, a
usg mole is proposing to change bitcoin into something unsustainable.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't buy the malicious
usg. thing is purely reactive, and only within the logic of itself.
mircea_popescu: (which incidentally makes me curious, if you get
usg advance on promise to deliver and then fail to deliver, do you hjave to repay ? or go to jail ?)
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for the_scourge from 1 to -2 with note: dear
usg, please send better clowns; the cheap ones are growing tiresome.
decimation: eh, I'm not so sure. the implication of that would be that
usg is extraordinarily competent
decimation: asciilifeform: yes it's actually an extraordinary admission of
usg's capitulation
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think this is the best proof possible that current
usg does not expect to survive more than a few years into the future anyway.
decimation: or similarly, it is unthinkable that a non-
usg-approved-bank would issue credit or bank
decimation: but you see in the usa, it is unthinkable that
usg wouldn't issue keys
decimation: asciilifeform: right, the banks don't give a shit because 1.) they generally don't get stuck with the bill and 2.) when they do,
usg prints them up some bezzlars
decimation: asciilifeform: the inevitable conclusion is that the banks/
usg do not mind criminals making money off the fucktarded system
decimation: they had 30 years of
usg/bezzlar computers locked up and were too retarded to market it
assbot: On pretending “Googling” is still a thing that works any more than “
USG” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1Cyi3m8 )
decimation: whatever life python has left is primarily driven by
usg academic types
decimation: even he gave up that prerogative in exchange for friendship with
usg, that turned out to not serve him very well
mircea_popescu: <decimation> why would some four star
usg general spend time to send 300 emails to some lebanese groupie chick? << i wrote like a billion lines in here. why not ?
decimation: why would some four star
usg general spend time to send 300 emails to some lebanese groupie chick?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: (why? ask them) <<
usg looking for zero days as well :)
mircea_popescu: and i'll take any bet that feudalism as promoted by b-a will take the piss, vinegar and cockroach guts out of any alternative, startingwith the
usg mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> which is, as good as any, a demarcation point for the birth of modern
usg << more like the birthplace of the central planning element thereof. "we affirm congress has the authority to central plan economic activity"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform door to door shakedowns are incompatible with the present day
usg.
trinque: this brings to mind again my (hardly novel) thought that the
usg is a shattered sovereign, rather than the absence of one
mircea_popescu: then, should your inheritor sell it when it's $10`000,
usg wants further capital gains tax. not on 9k, but on $9990
mircea_popescu: specifically : if you bought 1k btc at $10, and you die when it's $1000,
usg wants about 400`000, in usd.
the_scourge: as for it being more expensive... what a retarded thing to say. even for
USG the_scourge: asciilifeform: right, that's probably a stretch too far from reality. but
USG and HMT and BoE have been doing the fiat thing for a while now, and that's just one step less crazy
mircea_popescu: the
usg has no priviledged relationship with the law. it's a poor mockery thereof.
decimation: the problem is that the vector
usg uses is civilization-destroying. essentially "obey the law" becomes more of a farce until it becomes a laughing matter
decimation:
usg ought to be careful with pushing this kind of shit, you don't want the little people to become confused about banking
decimation: asciilifeform: in general, docsis is a "reference implementation" of
usg crypto, complete with fips standards etc.
mircea_popescu: especially since
usgavin has made space double and bandwidth expand
mircea_popescu: basically they're one of the what, 100k or so small tech-ish corps that live off the
usg dole.
mircea_popescu: basically, one less explored point of
usgavin's interest with the fork is to cripple the politically revolutionary side of bitcoin. obviously if bitcoin can't be bitcoin then the replacement of plain contracts with gpg-contracts will at least be hindered.
mircea_popescu: "BUT YOU ARE SECURING TRANSACTIONS WORTH SOMETHING LIKE 2,000 TIMES MORE VALUABLE THAN TODAY'S TRANSACTIONS" << check out allcaps
usgavin thinking bitcoi nin terms of "usd value"
mircea_popescu: word around the terrorist campfire is, the
usg is really running short on talent.
decimation: I guess. Like, if there were anti-us rebels in mexico, I think
usg would be seriously pissed if russia sent troops to support them
decimation: mats: what 'game'? is
usg trying to gain a colony in eastern europe
mats: what does
USG care if Putin shuts off the gas?
decimation: I would like someone in
usg to explain to little people like me why 1) poking russia with a stick is a good idea and 2.) what possible good could come from it
decimation: the banking system is a propaganda wrapper around
usg/fed bank ownership
decimation: no, it's like having
usg pay 70 bucks for a happy mean I 'get' to eat
decimation: eh, I can borrow
usg's bezzlars for 3.5
decimation: I can't find good data, but it is pretty well known that
usg entities purchase 30 year fixed loans
decimation: in the us, all mortgages are sold by
usg assbot: On pretending “Googling” is still a thing that works any more than “
USG” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1EwLHJ0 )
mircea_popescu: a more laughably clear cut of
usg-ism i've never seen, and it's utter defeat and public ridicule will do a lot not only to preserve bitcoin as "the noose that hangs the
usg", but moreover as a focal point for all people who would rather live an actual life.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: gavin andresen is unchangeably biased against solutions that preserve scarcity semantics. <<< that's not even it. a princeton graduate that lives in amherst mass and has suckled the
usg privilege tit all his life to the exclusion of anything else is going to make it so we can't verify bitcoin transactions or integrity anymore in order to "save africa" by allowing them microtransactions they don't either nee
mircea_popescu: We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.‘ << this part is the funniest, incidentally, considering the APPALLING record of
usg agents trying to infiltrate a god damnd public channel so far.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic im sure the
usg thinks it can do anything it pleases.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> not trying to argue that
usg will somehow transmogrify into inca empire when it 'needs to' << ballas is fundamentally (if perhaps unaware-ly) arguing that it already has. that's where his numerous psychanalisis pieces on the public mindset converge.
mircea_popescu: so... yes. for as long as the
usg is willing to die peacefully, it will die peacefully. and if it wishes to try and make a break for it, all the same, it will die bloodily.
midnightmagic: dude. seriously plotting or fomenting the physical murder of the
USG is sedition, insurrection, and various related crimes and there's no fucking way I'm interested in being associated with it just because I'm lurking in here.
☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎ midnightmagic: uh. just for the record, I strongly disagree with plotting the violent overthrow of the
USG. I do not, have not, will not, and would not even in the face of violent coercion, consider the use of violent and/or lethal force as a vehicle of governmental change. I am not a seditionist.
decimation: I guess
usg is very good at the good cop/bad cop routine in its derpy way
mircea_popescu: really,
usg : hire smarter people. i know that obama was wildly successful by promising a bunch of losers unprecedented financial incentives to voice for him, and i know that for that reason it WORKS for him to do all sorts of patently idiotic shit, like most recently claiming that inviting the president of israel "breaks protocol" because it could be seen as supporting a side in the coming elections, while his staff i
mircea_popescu: you can distinguish the
usg agents from the random muppet by this simple pretense : once gavin's ideas are crushed in the open, does he continue as if nothing happened ?