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ben_vulpes: buying a new video card just to slice a part of the possibility space off
ben_vulpes on a particularly brutal gentoo quest
mod6: just throwing a matrix together of all the test data.
phf: right, i had reddit knowledge of it, but now i'm trying to get a nice hardcopy of a book that i only have in text, and i'm rapidly gaining tmsr knowledge of just how rotten it is
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/06/01/the-ethereum-market-cap-fallacy/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The Ethereum market cap fallacy.
asciilifeform: i suppose europe's equiv to this was the old story that marie & louis supposedly didn't shit for a week prior to heads-off
asciilifeform: Framedragger: it is viable only in the very restricted sense of the jp legend of the d00d who swallowed a stone ahead of his beheading so as to chip the sword
mircea_popescu: it is a false notion. there is no value in the herds other than of usage. unless you're using the sheep, the libertards, to spin some wheel, they are 0, not epsilon.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 17:43 Framedragger: "As for the ultimate fate of the site, I'll have more to say about that soon. Delicious has over a billion bookmarks and is a fascinating piece of web history. Even Yahoo, for whom mismanagement is usually effortless, had to work hard to keep Delicious down. I bought it in part so it wouldn’t disappear from the web."
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 17:41 asciilifeform: ^ surprisingly nonidiotic response to a popular schneierism going around at the time
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 16:48 pete_dushenski: wtf kind a braindeads are pumping eth to these levels anyways. do govs really have that much fiat left to wash trade with ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-01#1664279 << it's very easy to get a bunch of "consensus"-oriented, state-compliant dork with no money to agree to anything, no matter how nonsensical it is. it's not expensive, either, that's why said dorks are the wet dream of any socialism. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-01#1664275 << and the fucktards actually say that with a straight5 face. ☝︎
asciilifeform: kHz bauds; protocol that fits on a napkin.
asciilifeform: they're a sweet dream to interface to/from microcontroller, also
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 16:37 trinque: I will never buy a car that has enough computer in it to use such a thing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-01#1664239 << think of it more like "getting a car attached" than "buying". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 16:14 asciilifeform: it is how , e.g., ps/2 kbd/mouse port worked. ( however it was never turned into a general-purpose item )
asciilifeform: the mega-achievement would be not only to encode these, but to read WITHOUT a high end camera & special optics
asciilifeform: ( fuck 'fingerprints' with a running pole saw . )
asciilifeform: plenty of room for a 8192bit rsa pubkey, say, and a little bit of signed material, and sig
asciilifeform: a business card printed on a very spartan (100 'dpi' ) press , gives what, 350 x 200 b&w pixels ; ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: if you can't put it on rubber stamp -- it sux. if can't print on business card in b&w -- useless. if won't read after a week glued to a light pole -- useless. if won't read after bullet hole in it -- useless. etc
asciilifeform: if you make a ~two~-diode reader, you can make it ignore 'unstraight' (from its pov) bars. and this opens you up to a method : ☟︎
asciilifeform: continuing the optical code thing, i have a possible pill :
Framedragger: !$getarchive https://blog.pinboard.in/2011/03/anatomy_of_a_crushing/
Framedragger: related (longer article) https://blog.pinboard.in/2011/03/anatomy_of_a_crushing/
asciilifeform thought that it had long ago disappeared without a trace
Framedragger: "As for the ultimate fate of the site, I'll have more to say about that soon. Delicious has over a billion bookmarks and is a fascinating piece of web history. Even Yahoo, for whom mismanagement is usually effortless, had to work hard to keep Delicious down. I bought it in part so it wouldn’t disappear from the web." ☟︎
asciilifeform: ^ surprisingly nonidiotic response to a popular schneierism going around at the time ☟︎
asciilifeform: ROMs readable (and if you ever must : WRITABLE) with unarmed eye, and bare hands, respectively, are a long-term must, imho.
asciilifeform: it'd be even more jawdroppingly spiffy if i could get 16kB cut into a rubber stamp !
asciilifeform: imho a means of reliably reading 16 or so kBytes from a business card, would be quite useful.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 16:12 asciilifeform: incidentally it is imho maddening that pc never standardized a SYNCHRONOUS serial interface
asciilifeform: well, it's crapolade that comes out of a printer
pete_dushenski wonders what was etymology of 'printolade'. it's a great term!1
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: The bezzle-USD and the tide-USD on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-bezzle-usd-and-the-tide-usd/>; NEXT: 26-02-2016 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/%3Fdate%3D26-02-2016>; Trilema - Pete Dushenski: <http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2016-04-01-logs-trilema.txt>
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it's called printolade for a reason...
pete_dushenski: wtf kind a braindeads are pumping eth to these levels anyways. do govs really have that much fiat left to wash trade with ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( one that doesn't drive you to consider a new auto )
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: but you did shift the goalposts a fair but there : 'inspected & licensed' quickly became 'only toyota'. problem ?
trinque: but it's a fair point; you'll otherwise have to buy the coke machine on wheels
asciilifeform: unless you want to fit a 1980s motor in there.
pete_dushenski: anyways, parts are plentiful, just at a more macro level (ie whole gauge cluster) because microparts fizzle (like my gpu this week actually)
asciilifeform: i know a fella who owns hundreds of 1950s-70s autos
trinque: I will never buy a car that has enough computer in it to use such a thing. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'The newest Lexusesiv in particular have the most (Hashem-) forsaken hvac/audio computer systems WITH A MOUSE.' << lol!!!
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/06/01/car-shopping-buy-used-or-lease-new/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Car shopping? Buy used or lease new??
asciilifeform: it is how , e.g., ps/2 kbd/mouse port worked. ( however it was never turned into a general-purpose item ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'synchronous serial' is simply a thing like rs232 but with 2nd pin, for clock, and then machine knows when to read off the bits.
asciilifeform: ( usb is not a 'serial interface' at all but a massive tub of liquishit, with bookcase-sized spec )
asciilifeform: incidentally it is imho maddening that pc never standardized a SYNCHRONOUS serial interface ☟︎
asciilifeform: it's a 'wtf, ent thinks pi equals 2, wat gives' tool.
asciilifeform: if box is misbauded, it will pick up a byte solely by accident, when it gets something that looks like it has the start and stop bits
asciilifeform: fwiw i did a 1G of this on ~one~ particular unit and found no significant differences
asciilifeform: btw if mod6 wants a mega-useful sequel to his tests, he can buy a https://mobileimages.lowes.com/product/converted/008236/008236128024.jpg and try battery run
asciilifeform does not recommend the histogram thing as a firstline test, it was written as diagnostic to ferret out broken os
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 15:35 mod6: but take a look at these results from FG#1 http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lGnuD/?raw=true
mod6: im running the ./hist.py on a linux environment amd64
mod6: so back to the bsd-side-quest.... i built `coreutils 8.21' on my openbsd box. now have `gdd` on there. which has a 'fullblock' iflag.
asciilifeform: the perhaps worst 'test' ~of a working rng in particular~ is to look at the hex with naked eye
asciilifeform: ^ expected values for count of a bioctet, in your case 'ff fd'
mod6: i went back to my linux output entropy files to see about the 'ff fd' thing; I'm really jammed up on openbsd. and that's a different side-quest we can discuss later. but now i'm wondering about the flow-control/output from collections done on linux
mod6: but take a look at these results from FG#1 http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lGnuD/?raw=true ☟︎
asciilifeform: it is astonishingly tricky to get raw bytes UNMOLESTED into and out of a 'modern pc'.
asciilifeform: and moreover, a quite different one each 1G
asciilifeform: a 1G , say, sample, should have nearly flat histogram
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663325 << so I should *not* be seeing a reoccurance of 'ff fd' throughout my entropy output files right? ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: they dun have a wall plug ?!
trinque: switched to a vape briefly, decided I didn't want a hot battery in my mouth.
trinque: BingoBoingo: wd, did same a couple months ago.
shinohai: For a less terse SoBA, participate and build your own. The voices in thy head will fill in the blanks
mod6: will have it out in just a moment.
asciilifeform: whether lenin, saddam, whoever. nothing pissant, esp in a crowd, loves more than to throw down symbol of ~his~ utter insignificance
asciilifeform: so much easier to turn over a statue than to actually accomplish something other than being piece of shit
BingoBoingo: So in other local lulz, Marxist aggitators want to remove Confederate memorial from park in StL city. Same aggitators love/ignore local "farmer's" market that used to hold "Pick-a-Nigger Sunday" sales.
asciilifeform: recall, this is the country where every pub has a PARKING LOT
BingoBoingo: Wigginton refused to take a Breathalyzer, according to the report. He posted $100 bail and was released. Wigginton resigned as U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Illinois on Nov. 24, 2015, to work for a private law firm. Wigginton became U.S. attorney in August 2010 after former U.S. President Barack Obama nominated him to serve as the top prosecutor in the state’s southern 38 counties. Wigginton, a Democrat, replaced Republica
BingoBoingo: The driver left the scene of a property damage accident where his vehicle left the roadway. The driver smelled strongly of an alcoholic beverage and his eyes were red and glassy in appearance. The driver admitted to drinking an alcoholic beverage. The driver was unable to complete the field sobriety testing.
BingoBoingo: In other victories for "our democracy" a minor Preetling arrested by local constables http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article153608214.html#wgt=trending
asciilifeform: 'comtrol' makes a bunch
asciilifeform: alternatively you can use a 'rs232 card', as formerly used to run dumb terminals, bbs modems, similar -- i have one here, happily does 9 ports
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linux seems to have a problem with >7 usb-tty devices -- but this ain't asciilifeform's fault
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 19:23 phf: indeed. i'd like for one of these fucks to go "oh, we've tried this solution in 87 and there's reason A and B for why it's not applicable at industrial scale" or "oh we need 10000KB/s which means that blah blah blah"
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 19:16 phf: i wonder what they mean by "large amounts", could they just run a handful of FUCKGOATS in parallel? is there some hidden flaw in FUCKGOATS approach that makes the solution non-viable? so many questions!
asciilifeform: phf: d00d was always a bit... odd. recall his paper re 'make as little use of rng as possible, because ohnoez it could be subverted' ?
phf: indeed. i'd like for one of these fucks to go "oh, we've tried this solution in 87 and there's reason A and B for why it's not applicable at industrial scale" or "oh we need 10000KB/s which means that blah blah blah" ☟︎
phf: why is there a need for a "quantum random number generator" (from yesterday's thread)?
phf: i wonder what they mean by "large amounts", could they just run a handful of FUCKGOATS in parallel? is there some hidden flaw in FUCKGOATS approach that makes the solution non-viable? so many questions! ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Generating large amounts of truly random data is expensive. Fortunately, truly random data can be simulated by pseudorandom data produced by a stream cipher from a much smaller key. (Even better, slight deficiencies in the randomness of the cipher key do not compromise security.) The literature contains several scalable ciphers....' -- djb et al ☟︎
asciilifeform: d 1513671; and by a gift from Cisco. P. Lou was supported by the Rachleff Scholars program at the University of Pennsylvania. We are grateful to Cisco for donating much of the hardware used for our experiments.'
asciilifeform: i actually met a 'genius' who : asciilifeform: 'winblowz crashes daily' ; d00d : 'hey, halting problem unsolvable!'
asciilifeform: and if someone wants to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous theft from a safe ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: funny bit re metastability -- i did not realize that it was the one and only possible culprit until i confirmed that the logic analyzer in fact saw, on multiple occasions (at least 1 ppm) a variant logic state from what the rest of the circuit saw.
asciilifeform: ( and leads to terminate-with-epitaph, a perfectly valid state, rather than exploitability )
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 15:36 mircea_popescu: this i suspect is generally the case, if an item doesn't contain deadly possible states it is more properly a toy than a tool.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663921 << overall it is not a useful line of thought re physical objects, all of which have 'potential deadly state', say of being launched through my head in a tornado. it is only interesting re information-processors. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 15:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663763 << this i'm affraid is wishful thinking. consider the simple case of the 110/220 volt switch on most desktop power supplies. it... does contain such a state, as part and parcel of why it even exists in the first place.
mircea_popescu: i spent a while having to subdue my fridge which had become embroiled along with my washing machine and its allies in an air-and-sea war over some misunderstandings, and i decided no more of that! no fridge, no washing machine, no spy etc needs its own armored divisions!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663778 << that is a badly designed spy. ☝︎