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mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, lift the washington monument, realign jupiter, fill the mariane gap, cover the usg deficit
BingoBoingo: <ascii_lander> until then, it's 'yi yi zhi yi' (orc incursions organized by usg for own pleasure) << I only worry because I've pointed local orcs to qntra posts
ascii_lander: until then, it's 'yi yi zhi yi' (orc incursions organized by usg for own pleasure)
ascii_lander is as certain that woman is in full agreement re: this issue as that she isn't a usg succubus
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: suppose lets in on secret that she was usg mole all along also.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this is what this is : the usg has been defeated. << Last I checked Will Smith was still president
mircea_popescu: the usg has similarly had all its industry destroyed and is entirely out of money.
ascii_lander: or is the algo 1) get killed messily by usg 2) while camera rolls 3) ??? 4) profit
mircea_popescu: this is what this is : the usg has been defeated.
mircea_popescu: but by and large im with williamdunne on this : if what it takes to force the usg into abject surrender is turning suburbia into iraq, fucking turn suburbia into iraq.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Only filed because necessary to certify with USG 0 payments on stafford loan repayment plan. Can only tolerate so much phone spam
ascii_lander: it does not apply to anything usg or its tentacles might do.
decimation: I can't imagine what kind of 'business logic' would go behind such a decision on samsung's part, other than "let's keep the little derps alive to keep usg off our back"
Citizenfive: For most of us here, that means either (1) resign to being an NPC, and stay off the radar that would allow use of *those* sorts of USG assets, or (2) compartment, compartment, compartment
Citizenfive: if the threat model includes USG, at the DPR-severity level (Senators declaring war on you — see Schumer etc a couple years ago), only compartmentation will save you (maybe)
BingoBoingo errs on the side of underestimating the worth of his meat to USG
BingoBoingo wonders how many USG stooges will be billed to read Heraclitus nao
mats: and shortly after, usg left iraq. afghan deployments were gone for the most part.
ascii-bolivia: what they believe - or pretend to - if one were to dignify it with a reduction to logical terms which make sense to a normal person, is: that usg is sorta like a searchlight, that cannot cover the whole universe simultaneously but can certainly be pointed at miscreants as need be, when their turn comes
ascii_modem: there are 'places' to which usg - while exists as such - simply will -not- go, and where the question can only be re: -which- specific set of sophistries will be made use of to avoid going there
ascii_modem: usg wins this one - because alternative - holding pd to hygienic standards - is 'skies-fall' mega-inconceivable
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Huge fans of US in general, in Midano with petite al queda USG nexus, but corrupt enough fot civilized living
asciilifeform: <BingoBoingo> ... the Phillipines interest me as an expatriation point << afaik - worst of all worlds: thoroughly usg-owned, but with all the 'pleasures' of the Turd World
asciilifeform bona fide ukr per usg passport
BingoBoingo: But I don't think Meatspace Vegas managed to elude the USG's money tracking slime mold
ascii_field: the 'up-side' - perhaps the only one - of being a hermit monster is that the tools built for nailing the 'eusocial' don't work on you. i.e. you negrate a usg shill in your mind at most forty seconds after initial contact
mircea_popescu: usg went in the middle and lost, there being no middle. but this is funny, psychologically, because : all socialisms always live by fleecing the middle class. for all the verbiage, it's the "kulak" that supported the soviets, not the filthy rich capitalist dudes.
mircea_popescu: the people who are incompetent also never cared what the usg was putting out, and have and use convenient solutions that mostly also don't involve it
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : the people who are competent never cared what the usg was putting out, and have and use functional solutions that don't involve it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100283 << the odd reason being that the whole fucking plan was stupid to begin with ? it relied on the insane theory that everyone's the intellectual captive of the usg dreamsilk. ☝︎
asciilifeform: whereas today it means, to many, 'what he is called by usg'
felipelalli: i did not mean "usg agent", replace that by "specialist in documents"
asciilifeform: felipelalli: a usg agent is not a machine for verifying that this piece of paper contains the name my mother gave me. he is a machine for furthering the will of lizard hitler.
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: so, supose you are a usg agent and everybody knows your ability, you rate 10 the user br-8d255152, even if that user had 20x -10, I'd trust in your rate. The point is just the standard. The WoT serves as a natural filter.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the original thread concerned traditional identity papers issued by, e.g., usg
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> felipelalli: someone who is not a usg agent has no ability whatsoever to verify the legitimacy of any document but that of the most laughable fake << asciilifeform re
asciilifeform: felipelalli: someone who is not a usg agent has no ability whatsoever to verify the legitimacy of any document but that of the most laughable fake
asciilifeform: williamdunne: agents of usg can get a passport as legit as yours or mine, ten times every morning before breakfast.
asciilifeform: 2) usg reaction. loud farts, but on psyop front, barrage of faux seeek000r1ty products
asciilifeform: think, why would usg make loud, public farts against 'iPnohe' and other products from usgtronics vendors which remain as porous as ever ?
williamdunne: (they being the collective employees of the USG)
williamdunne: But USG spending is so stable? Hence why they keep growing year on year.
williamdunne: lobbes: The USG does the same on foreign earned income.. when you neither live nor work in the US
ascii_field: iirc it is directly usg-affiliated.
mats: not so complicated, cert. store and USG owns a master key
decimation: 'the people' desperately want to believe that there is a secretly competent branch of usg saving them from themselves
decimation: mircea_popescu: you see this in the us with the ambiguity usg shows toward spying in general
decimation: yes, but usg has been very successful at brainwashing the masses into believing its bullshit
asciilifeform: usg was pure, refined 'this' since day 1.
decimation: usg is tending in that direction too
asciilifeform: not entirely unlike usg.
decimation: as long as there is a 'reasonable basis' for the law (as in, usg can provide any reason whatsoever"
mircea_popescu: apparently it just needs to ask for permission (from a usg magistrate - improperly called a judge for the obvious reasons)
decimation: in practice, if usg wants to move you out of your house, they just freeze your accounts and bleed you with fines
asciilifeform: even if this, if chump cashes in his house, usg can seize
mircea_popescu: im kinda curious in a scholarly way exactly what sort of outrage would incentize teh usg to go back on its "principal home can not be seized" approach to things.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone directly realises what epic self decapitation the dpr was for the usg.
decimation: in order to sell such a thing legally in the us, you must explictly gain usg's permission, after suitably demonstrating that it works as claimed
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 02:52:11; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've not your experience nor your eloquence on the topic of MIT, but I do know they waste oodles of money via usg 'science', supply the meatrobots responsible for breaking everything, and glorify the breaking of everything under the auspices of 'patriotism'.
asciilifeform: the folks who were making fools of themselves on usenet now want to be usg brass
asciilifeform: i would observe that everyone presently in good favour of usg by virtue of their 'passport data' - skin, gonads, etc. - runs the risk of ending up weimar-jewed
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my first gig out of school was at an abominable usg-contracting salt mine where little gurlz straight out of mit, for that fact alone, were promoted, repeatedly, over everyone else's head ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've not your experience nor your eloquence on the topic of MIT, but I do know they waste oodles of money via usg 'science', supply the meatrobots responsible for breaking everything, and glorify the breaking of everything under the auspices of 'patriotism'. ☟︎
mats: of course. USG spent the last decade in iraq fighting in hovels.
asciilifeform: this applies to mit, usg, rome, whoever.
asciilifeform: folks who went there - either of these or any other top academies of usg - by all rights ought to pretend to have spent their youth in jail or army.
asciilifeform: williamdunne: keybase and friends (usg in the broadest possible sense) can read your mail and sign as you.
ben_vulpes: procures and doles out usg cash. what else does one need to know?
trinque: persuade the usg to cut them fat checks
ben_vulpes: but simulacra that pass the sniff test at palantir and other usg sinecure production theaters
mats: http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/2015/04/fbi_man_plotted_suicide_bomb_attack_at_kansas_military_base_0 USG exploits another mentally unwell person
asciilifeform: the original conversation, iirc, was about usg sibyls
decimation: one sees exactly the same phenomenon in usg today
Guest64542: what does usg stand for?
asciilifeform: decimation: what i meant was: a lawsuit in an american court is won or lost at the pleasure of usg.
decimation: yeah asciilifeform, what do you mean "tendril of usg"
Guest64542: Mr. P: Forgive my ignorace, but who is DC? Are you referring to the provider that hosts your site? Or some sort of third-party abritraitor? And what do you mean by "tendril of USG"?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i predict that the case will hinge on whether 'fetlife' is a tendril of usg in good standing
asciilifeform: 'large' in the buffett, usg-large sense
mircea_popescu: decimation sadly usg is not directly involved. this is more "let's make vague laws to satisfy an abstruse expectation of good". the only result is, whenever contrary interests meet, the provider is caught in the middle.
decimation: usg enjoys forcing everyone to be an agent
decimation: asciilifeform: but does working as a usg employee at jpl really free him from java hell?
ascii_field: without being killed by usg
ascii_field: what he did was, essentially, steal a usg mega-product - macsyma, the first really universal computer algebra system, thousands of man-years of
mircea_popescu: which is the real risk here : if pools collaborate TOO MUCH we end up with usg 2.0
asciilifeform: very much, going by the public statements, a believer in some idea of a return to a mythical 'old' usg
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it is difficult to imagine that cia employee would have no concept of what usg dishes out to the rest of the planet (as well as own subjects)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: at any rate, snowden deserves his share of being pissed on for his failure to say 'yes, if you are a servant of usg i want to see your miserable existence end on headsoff.com'
decimation: does usg even allow you to possess a laser like that without permission?
ben_vulpes: may it drain the usg's coffers and drive her to hitherto unprecedented printing sprees.
decimation: it's amazing how the interests of the 'public at large' (even 'usg at large') can be usurped by some bureaucrat who likes a nice window office
decimation: asciilifeform: you can imagine how it would cramp the style of a high ranking usg 'staffer' to report for duty inside a hole
decimation: usg paid $bil to hollow out mountain, then paid $$ to modernize it after 2001, then decided it was 'too small' in 2006 (apparently nukes weren't a concern anymore) and now has suddenly seen wisdom in moving back into the bunker
mircea_popescu: so are we gonna call teh usg ops "tiki taka" ? seems adequately derpy...
mircea_popescu: seems teh usg-consensus pretty much is to make amd extinct.
ascii_field: 'oh noez non-crippled hardware, someone other than usg could modify it'
ascii_field: http://danluu.com/cpu-backdoors << not the first time a usg shill spins amd's lack of encipherment or signature enforcement on microcode updates as a weakness
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat? << There is a trilema post tracking this phenomenon, but if you want to elevate it to a sustained operation go for it.
ben_vulpes: who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat?
asciilifeform: decimation: no need for xray, just buy off some outfit that handles 'palmprint' door locks for usg