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Adlai: ben_vulpes: what kind of filter?
Adlai uses "they" quite a bit
Adlai: and /me wouldn't want to be discrimunatud against by the hypothetical ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: oh don't mind me i'm just being bombastic
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Adlai: why bomb when you can fant?
Adlai: although silver's going up. you heard it here first.
Adlai: no it's going down, shit.
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Adlai: salways 420 somewhere
Adlai should sleep, don't take it personally but kindly fuck off.
mxtm: `bittrex-richie is impersonating bittrex-richie, by the way
williamdunne: *furiously checking logs wondering what I have missed*
mxtm: and then spamming and calling me slurs
Adlai: !down BIoodyRoockie
Adlai: get in the wot, fuckers
Adlai: !down ufoirotffffp
Adlai: 04:22:24 mxtm | I am in the WoT :( just not assbot's
williamdunne: I'm in Assbot's WoT, not sure why it didn't work for me
Adlai: !down williamdunne
Adlai: assbot (~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot): Adlai, you can't do that to williamdunne. (Trust: L1 0, L2 1)
Adlai: there appears to be an anomaly.
Adlai: i mean, we should have the same abilities; yet i could down them, but you couldn't.
Adlai: there is a problem! system be broke.
williamdunne: Is the source available for assbot? I'll have a peek
Adlai: not that i know. kakobrekla ?
Adlai: ;;getrust adlai williamdunne
gribble: Error: "getrust" is not a valid command.
Adlai: ;;gettrust adlai williamdunne
Adlai: williamdunne: aha! "Currently not authenticated."?
Adlai: !gettrust adlai williamdunne
Adlai: williamdunne: so, new blood, where are you cut from?
williamdunne: From the UK, got into bitcoin a couple of years ago but spent the last having my education from a number of #b-a soures
adlai: why do you feel "cut from" the UK?
williamdunne: I don't, I just wasn't entirely sure what you were asking me so covered a couple of interpretations
adlai distinctly recalls mentioning cuts
adlai: which could imply any number of things, such as "at which sovereign did you hail before you realized you needed none"
williamdunne: Yep, thats the one I was answering - I wouldn't consider the sovereignty I reside in to be a part of my identity.
williamdunne: Nor would I expect it to be my final resting place
adlai: how have you repaid it for what it did give you?
ben_vulpes: adlai: how do you know it was a net gift and not theft?
adlai: ben_vulpes: "it has taken more from me than it gave" is a valid answer
adlai: but not everybody would say that
adlai for example has not yet fully cashed his check
ben_vulpes: i don't think that this place could ever repay me for the cost of living here.
trinque: ben_vulpes: the old deeds bundle hashes are a hash of each deed comma-delimited, then hashed again all together
trinque: that is why I didn't just import the thing blindly; it worked differently than the current iteration
trinque: with that said, let no one ever claim that the deedbot doesn't work because they couldn't figure out how to verify these
williamdunne: Those who have need of it should learn how to use it, instead of hoping for it to be spoonfed to them with parallax
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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes " men who button the top button of their shirt when not wearing a tie." << what's that ? retardaton ? tuxedo ?
mircea_popescu: <williamdunne> I'm in Assbot's WoT, not sure why it didn't work for me << because you typed out the full name like a noob, and you have a display that fails to make the diff between capital i and lowcase l. instead of, you know, typiong the first three letters then hitting autocompletion like people who aren't noobs, and thus by noticing that Blo<tab> does nothing figure out the problem.
adlai: !down mircea_popescu
adlai: ^^ still doesn't work
adlai: there's more to it than autocomplete!
adlai: maybe !up and !down should rely on blockchain consensus instead
williamdunne: Aha, I wrote a post about that the other day. So fed up of this "Decentralize all the things" meme
adlai: you may be glad to hear that decentralization has opened a theater next to security
williamdunne: Its extra efficient because every computer has to do the calculation, instead of just one!
adlai: don't forget the added benefit of having everybody explicitly, voluntarily, affirm their trust in bob
mircea_popescu: <adlai> how have you repaid it for what it did give you? << atta boy :D
adlai: that's got nothing to do with letat
mircea_popescu: <williamdunne> I will presume you are in the US << he's in portland. a place so infected with dumb, if you ever run into a sane woman you gotta marry her.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu, that seems to be a relatively common theme in many places, in fairness
mircea_popescu: admitting that the two ways any group of people could be organised as are strictly 1. it's only funny until someone loses an eye. then it's hysterical and b. minimize the discomfort of everyone an' love them whether they want to or not,
mircea_popescu: which contemporary pretender to sovereignty would you say is not organised by and for the needs, interests and preoccupations of women ?
mircea_popescu: women, of course, are relatively common in places. and so therefore...
mircea_popescu: <trinque> that is why I didn't just import the thing blindly; it worked differently than the current iteration << yeah at this point a note is called for at that <hr />
mircea_popescu: i suspect the most common gender these days is "dragon"
williamdunne: Please treat my gender with the weight it so-deserves
adlai: because your metabolism hasn't given it enough weight already?
mircea_popescu: i dunno how i ended up with some of these and some girlie asked me how do i "identify" and i said aliphatic.
mircea_popescu: she had no idea what that is and i didn't think much of her
williamdunne: If you ask anyone how they identify in that context it seems you do not deserve much thought of you
williamdunne: 03:37:47 - adlai: because your metabolism hasn't given it enough weight already?
mxtm: oh, well WoIf` is imitating Wolf`
mxtm: also spamming w/ hatred of me, yadda yadda
mxtm: you don't really know me, but, hi
mxtm: i have way more than that
mxtm: yeah homm unrated me and tim-tams and me trading was a WHILE ago lol
mircea_popescu: "i am a guy who walks alone, and gets so excited if anyone mentions him that he even knows this happened".
mircea_popescu: you got any idea how many redditards/twitterwhatevers/etc run arround spamming hatred of me ?
williamdunne: I hate to confess, but a year ago I would have done that
williamdunne: Been a redditard spewing hatred towards you (mircea)
mxtm: also, why does assbot have super out of date rating info on me
mxtm: oh i see, the wiki or whatever didn't mention that
mxtm: or what i read from it
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mircea_popescu: i suppose we're still hoping this may be cured with info exchange at some point.
mxtm: yeh, how do i get properly in with the assbot WoT?
assbot: Nick williamdunne is already taken.
assbot: Nick mxtm is already taken.
assbot: Nick williamdunne is already taken.
mxtm: !register 33469F806B4FC09D4B06CB17D22859C77EF7256D
assbot: Nick mxtm is already taken.
mxtm: 33469F806B4FC09D4B06CB17D22859C77EF7256D,
mxtm: sorry You need a better WoT rating for self-up. (level 2 with assbot >0)
adlai: mxtm: make sure you're talking to assbot, for this channel. gribble does authentication for #bitcoin-otc
mxtm: so is there no hope for me to register with assbot then
mxtm: because my nick is "already taken"
mircea_popescu: you don't need to register. you are registered already, and it knows this.
mircea_popescu: you will be able to self-voice once you are in its wot.
mxtm: on gribble or on assbot or on both
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 21:36:37; mircea_popescu: the city never sleeps
mxtm: i am using the same gpg key
williamdunne: But you aren't within two steps in trust of assbot
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ben_vulpes: ugh i can't tell if this is allergies or a sickness
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98300 @ 0.00029111 = 28.6161 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can buildroot be coerced to crap out builds of its "packages" in addition to the nixen it builds?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 238946 @ 0.00029084 = 69.4951 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: 'and then copied' << aha! i thought i'd read that somewhere.
ben_vulpes: a vile beast is slowing my mental procs down i think
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funkenstein_: scary car crash. i had one in a dream last night too.
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funkenstein_: offhanded comment here about lacan and alt-physics took me on a wild goose chase
funkenstein_: and now he shows up in the latest robert foster rap news
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mircea_popescu: you hadn't heard of that feminist role-model and brilliant woman in tech irigaray before, had you.
funkenstein_: most of lacan stuff i found seemed like fan literature
mircea_popescu: lacan is remembered chiefly for two things. the more important was his economic superiority - he was the first talk psych to reduce the session time. he'd charge people for three minutes sort of thing. that made him more productive than his peers.
mircea_popescu: as the expression goes, when hiring a shaman don't hire the "best", hire the cheapest
mircea_popescu: (because they're exactly equally effective, being shamans).
mircea_popescu: conversely : if you're going to con people, take the least time possible. you'll deliver just as much con to each victim, but make more money at it.
mircea_popescu: the less important is his intellectual contribution - he proved conclusively that a "field" with "its own terminology" is not for this purely rhetorical reason respectable.
mircea_popescu: in the process paving the way for the ulterior extirpation from human preoccupations of stuff like "social studies".
mircea_popescu: generally, the more brilliant derps in any bogus field are the ones that'll finally sink it. he's chiefly the reason us pseudo-sicence of the mind went the way of pills.
mircea_popescu: back in the 60s and 70s it was looking like muchly the other way. but today, scientology is a barely surviving holdout of those olden days of talk psych.
funkenstein_: really? does that assume people read et en français aussi?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: if americans didn't read french, how exactly would you imagine all the "new concepts" they publish would be made ?
mircea_popescu: need something to shanonize, yo. "radical honesty" herp-derp.
funkenstein_: plagiarize, plagiarize, only be sure to call it: research
mircea_popescu: "i am the only person in this country that can sort-of grasp the meaning of long french phrases
mircea_popescu: except for all the other people also making their living out of badly translated french maculature."
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funkenstein_: compare "science et vie" to "discovery¨ .. you will see some differences
funkenstein_: how about, compare paris.backpage to newyork.backpage
funkenstein_: mircea_popescu have you been approached by publishers for trilemma content yet?
nubbins`: funkenstein_ you could at least spell it the romanian way ;p
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 12:03:13; funkenstein_: really? does that assume people read et en français aussi?
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 12:03:13; funkenstein_: really? does that assume people read et en français aussi?
nubbins`: log says "fran?ais" in my browser and log1 says "franais"
nubbins`: browen brokser's dutch seed bank
nubbins`: top quality - autoflowering - feminized
mircea_popescu: kid to pregnant woman, puts hand on belly. "what's in here ?" "oh, I'm going to have a little baby"
nubbins`: i was thinking "but you already had one! aren't you full?"
nubbins`: cleveland in two days. i should find my passport
mircea_popescu: either that or write to the canadian army general staff]
mircea_popescu: "dear sirs, im sick of having to look for my passport. go invade cleveland already"
nubbins`: some years ago, my father showed me this "certification booklet" that he carried as part of his job (gov marine safety inspections)
nubbins`: it was actually comical how many more security features it had than my passport
nubbins`: veual i thought it was for the benefit of the lazy who'd sacrifice yield for ease
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nubbins`: ^ watch an asshole use his bare hands to handle product
nubbins`: tldr: they suck and the makers should end it all
Vexual: whats at the end of nubbins albert chain?
nubbins`: prince albert chain? you can prolly guess
funkenstein_: 40.2 millies is pretty cheap for a compromised privkey
nubbins`: funkenstein_ is it cheap for a /finnish/ compromised privkey?
nubbins`: srsly tho what's fun to do in cleveland?
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nubbins`: bought some art off me at one point iirc
Vexual: bearded cake is the biz
Vexual: limpiting on like a dieng fucking pigeon
Vexual: seriously tho, shes been in the game since honeys was wearing sassoons
nubbins`: in the game he's shameless, even uses the codename famous amos
nubbins`: ;;google in the game he's shameless, even uses the codename famous amos
nubbins`: worth listening to, purely for the number of food/sex double entendres
nubbins`: hell, mp might even get a chuckle
nubbins`: "sodom, they got 'em with they curls out, even got a better sales pitch than the girl scouts"
Vexual: double dog dare you to callme a pervert
nubbins`: i'm tempted to call you one for owning a blackberry
funkenstein_: speaking of which, a bar joke i heard last night, whats the difference between marmalade and jam?
Vexual: obama just made frinds with cuba too, so cigars will be ubiquitous
nubbins`: funkenstein_ iirc marmalade is stickier
funkenstein_: you can't marmalade your cock in someone's ass
Vexual: relax, its not a tumour
nubbins`: "Walmart executives have continued to look favorably on her, with Alice Walton donating the maximum amount to the “Ready for Hillary” Super PAC in 2013. Walton’s $25,000 donation was considerably higher than the average annual salary for Walmart’s hourly employees"
Vexual: it was expected when u said it was a bar joke\
funkenstein_: you know the one about the prisoner sentenced to death, who was told it would be one day this week but not a day he expects?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu it's an article in jacobin, you're not supposed to follow
HostFat: I've nothing to say now, I was just lurking :)
mircea_popescu: actually iirc was even discussed in the log, of all places, somewhat recently.
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nubbins`: i may not actually let this guy stay the rest of the month
nubbins` turned on the oven 15 minutes ago to pre-heat it; couldn't find the cookie sheet; opened the oven to find 10 burned chicken fingers inside
nubbins`: this is almost as retarded as leaving the front door not only unlocked, but actually /not fully closed/, a total of 8 times so far /this year/
Vexual: smooth balls and well loose baked goods
nubbins`: it's a one-kitchen sort of house
Vexual: yah cant get good flatmates i tell ya
nubbins`: Vexual i prefer parchment paper
Vexual: yeah well, i clean the overn, so
mircea_popescu: generally sharing a kitchen and sharing a woman is about the same scenario.
nubbins` imagines MP unwrapping bar of soap, using once, putting in trash
mircea_popescu: the bathroom is actually lower on the list than most things.
Vexual: not me, bathroom is a sanctuary
mircea_popescu: there's a major difference between "stuff goes in" and everything else.
mircea_popescu: women are slightly vulnerable to bad bathrooms, but slightly. you're a guy, you don't have a problem there. what are you going to catch, rabies ?
☟︎ nubbins`: what am i going to catch from a /fork/ that i'm not exposing myself to by eating at a restaurant?
mircea_popescu: restaurants are very safe, because if they become infected it's obvious within a day and they get shut down
☟︎ nubbins`: does b-a share restaurant inspection reports online?
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of online. hospitals report infections, disease control tracks them.
funkenstein_: if you are looking for exposure to local pathogens, nothing beats a nursery
nubbins`: after all, it's not like anyone else would use the syphilis fork in that time frame
Vexual: someone that went in my kitchen ened up in my garden
Vexual: it was a permanent arrangement
nubbins`: brb but i legitimately am curious as to how you think i can catch a disease from a clean fork
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what i said was that the kitchen's the worst place to share with some whoever. it is.
mircea_popescu: and that it's about on par with sharing a woman. which it also is.
nubbins`: it's just the logic doesn't follow
mircea_popescu: are you aware for instance that women are a good degree of magnitude more likely to catch something from men, than men from women ?
Vexual: yes, its because of dicks
nubbins`: what's included in the set of {something}? a wink? syphilis?
Vexual: dick generallydont absorb stuff, theyre disigned for the opposite
nubbins`: my flagging interest begs you to continue
mircea_popescu: what's to continue lol. you've never bothered to think about contagion, which is excusable seeing how you're no biologist.
nubbins`: again, how is this different from eating at a restaurant
nubbins`: or do you pack your own chopsticks?
Vexual: i look at the kitchen, i dont touch it
nubbins`: you don't cum when you're finished eating
Vexual: youre in the wrong spot
nubbins`: anyway, despite the fact that this guy works as a cook at various 4-star restaurants
nubbins`: his meals while at home consist entirely of take-out fish & chips and chicken fingers
nubbins`: the ellipsis you forgot to add after your "so then"
mircea_popescu: dude you asked me how sex is different from eating at a restaurant, and then answered yourself.
Vexual: the similarities are endless
nubbins`: haha wait i'm thinking of hotels.
nubbins`: i think three stars *is* the most a restaurant can get
nubbins`: anyway. the place was voted canada's best restaurant a couple years in a row
nubbins`: and this guy leaves the front door open and chicken fingers in the oven overnight
Vexual: seems errone wears a hat in candia
Vexual: box jellyfish tentacles, defused with vinegar,now theres something to work with
Vexual: like some poisin spaghetti
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Vexual: and indisible, by tooth or knife
nubbins`: plz to not those are NOT cops on horses, which you see often enough, but what appear to be private citizens
Vexual: cop horse is samle like regular horse
Vexual: thats tradeable info kids
mircea_popescu: 1. blockchain info sends out spam ? 2. with retarded "cc to undisclosed/bcc to victim" stuff ? 3. and has some "communications officer" that can't spell ? 4. and wait, wut, "tell us how many moneyz and we'll tell you numerous numbers" business model ?!
Vexual: oh i thought it was a reply
Vexual: isnt btc jam high on the.info advertisers list?
Vexual: yes trendsetters, they're making too mcuh money too kep up that bullshit
nubbins`: seriously though how do you leave 8 chicken fingers in the oven?
nubbins`: so the guy cooked them, turned the oven off, then... went to bed at 7am
nubbins`: talk about coked out of your fucking head :p
funkenstein_: some people get upset when i point out coffee is more addictive than cocaine
funkenstein_: that sounds like more of an alcohol related move anyway
funkenstein_: i cooked some ramen noodles once and passed out
funkenstein_: distribued in a few micron layer around my apartment
funkenstein_: turned to smoke and settled evenly around the room
nubbins`: funkenstein_ 4 beer in the fridge, 2 empties by the garbage
nubbins`: awake at 7am after opening the first beer at 11pm? probably coked up
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assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 13:37:43; mircea_popescu: restaurants are very safe, because if they become infected it's obvious within a day and they get shut down
nubbins`: pete_dushenski i figured i'd leave that one for someone who wants to put in the time
nubbins`: mp has obv never worked in a restaurant kitchen :P
nubbins`: if you shut 'em down within a day of them failing inspection, you're the 1%
pete_dushenski: given that incubation periods for common foodborne pathogens range from 1-7 days, that people have varying susceptibilities and that most people eat out somewhat frequently, it's hard to isolate the source
nubbins`: srsly, online inspection reports. you'd be shocked
pete_dushenski: ya, it's almost impossible to be shut down on the spot
nubbins`: how often did you resurface the cutting boards?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not as hard as it was for this guy to figure out the cook leaves the door open eh ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: leaves the door open and... rat comes in ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski it was a comparative, he keeps tring to worm it into an absolute.
nubbins`: pete_dushenski that was a reference to my idiot roomie
nubbins`: he has a problem with securing the domicile
mircea_popescu: nubbins` nah, just, wood stuff was cheap. you'd go through multiple sets each year np
nubbins`: mircea_popescu plastic/resin cutting boards are more common here
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: daily resurfacing of cutting boards ??
nubbins`: when they finally put restaurant inspection reports online for people to read, every single restaurant i've ever eaten at was given a citation for cutting boards needing resurfacing
nubbins`: pete_dushenski essentially you just plane 'em
nubbins`: thick board'll last you a while
Vexual: you resurface a throwaway peice of shit? surely u jest
nubbins`: i also wear socks more than once
Vexual: i had a mate you got me in to spraypaint silver so it looked like staineless steel
nubbins`: incidentally, my favourite chinese take-out was not listed in the restaurant inspection reports
Vexual: you didnt get a tick til id been
nubbins` has been toying w/ getting clay pots for his kimchi fermenting
mircea_popescu: the advantage is you can have it made in any shape for little effort.
nubbins`: also fwiw i made kimchi day before yes, ~5th batch so far, anyone who likes food and is halfway handy in the kitchen is strongly encouraged to try making some
Vexual: whats the recipie again?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: of course the walk-in fridges have metal grill shelving
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the fermentation is *just* starting it.
nubbins`: i won't eat this util late april at the earliest
nubbins`: older is better but i honestly can't wait
nubbins`: i usually let it ferment at 20C for 4-5 days to get it going
nubbins`: fridge after that, most of the heavy lifting's done
mircea_popescu: nubbins` for the record, traditional (european) cooking happened around this large flat table of very thick oak
☟︎ mircea_popescu: women (the young ones) brushed it with a steel brush each evening.
pete_dushenski is still in shock over these fucking cutting board planing machines...
nubbins`: pete_dushenski imagine my face the first time i saw a squeegee sharpening machine
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: i can barely imagine your face the first time you bought a bitcoin
mircea_popescu: anyway, to not peel off more than is fair : i rather distantly ran the kitchen, by virtue of ownership. it did have a chief cook and everything.
nubbins`: pete_dushenski it looked kind of like this: baked.jpg
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: was this before or after 'retirement' ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the vast majority of fooderies are staffed by 19-20yo's with clueless managers
nubbins`: you're lucky to have 2 full time employees who know what they're at
mircea_popescu: i was not exactly clueless and very scary. the heads were in either case male, over 40.
Vexual: so you walked to the bank alone?
nubbins`: knowing wtf you're at would be unheard of as well
mircea_popescu: one guy wore a little chiffon thing over his moustache
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i've seen a fair share of beard nets around
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nubbins`: so bozo rolls downstairs, finds his cold chicken fingers on the counter
pete_dushenski: doods over 40 here are working for the gov or working in the patch
nubbins`: chuckles, throws dirty cookie sheet, in sink, smuggles food back up to bedroom
mircea_popescu: meh. people who are good at it are very happy there, i've found.
nubbins`: pete_dushenski if there's one way that north america fucked itself in the ass, it's the concept of "respectable work"
Vexual: erry kitchen ive seen gets benefits
mircea_popescu: i could never get a competent cook to even contemplate anything else.
nubbins`: 20 years of "if you don't study hard, you'll have to work at mcdonald's"
nubbins`: followed by x years of "what, you're too good to work at mcdonald's?"
nubbins`: and the youth spend their youth being told they're a piece of shit if they work there
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: well mebbe that's what more men here need to do to be happy ?
mircea_popescu: point of woman bits is to get pregnant. what's woman supposed to do with her bits ?
nubbins`: you go to japan, nobody working at the mcdonald's is sullen or put out
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski what, finding something they can be good at ? mmmmyeah...
Vexual: drink wine buy resutrant, go broke repeat
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i dun get the 'anything but pregnancy' thing ?
nubbins`: speaking of jacobin magazine, i once read an essay therein which expounded upon the implicit oppression in the statement "do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski most demographically stable and psychologically sane cultures i've ever seen welcome pregnancy in young women.
nubbins`: pretty sure i won the disrespect of at least half a dozen people by tearing strips off that one
mircea_popescu: except, of course, for teh english speakers. WORST DISASTER
Vexual: teenage pregnancy is frowned upon here, but the 29 yer olds with self sufficient spawn are very happy
nubbins`: but is that manufactured happiness?
Vexual: nope, theyre just happy
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what i don't get with all the libertards is why exactly they imagine oppression is a bad thing.
mats: i had a fun dream last night: diplomats resolving disputes with pistols and a shootout in a department store
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: nubbins`it's that pain in general is bad, and to be avoided
mats: crawling around coat racks killing italians. woke up when my beretta jammed and i died, go figure
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Vexual: lol, thats a movie mats
Vexual: unwritten as a screenplay
nubbins`: mircea_popescu because narcissism?
mats: im an IT guy, i have no idea what good coats look like
Vexual: you're an it guy, its whatever u like
nubbins`: mats they look like the coats you see people wearing when you say to yourself "i bet that was expensive"
Vexual: or the girl who you think, i wonder how she got that?
Vexual: then the porno imaginings trun out to be a beretta
nubbins`: oh man. this paper place in brooklyn totally has all my business going forward
nubbins`: so i neglect to order this batch of paper on time. gotta have it in-hand this week. i choose the $220 shipping option on the website because it's the cheapest option beyond UPS ground.
nubbins`: they call me an hour later: "this other method will get it there in 3 days, we'll do it for $130"
Vexual: 20ft box is like 500 if u think ahead
nubbins`: with customer service like this, IDGAF that they were closed for a week for passover
nubbins`: Vexual think far enough ahead and you'll find yourself in the woods with a bucksaw
nubbins`: "Some observers have argued that Clinton’s repetition of the Democratic slogan that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare”reinforces the stigmatization of those who choose that option."
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nubbins`: pop quiz: what are the major points of canada's abortion laws?
Vexual: ok, coathanger point, and the leather scraing tool?
Vexual: or is it yes, and or no
nubbins`: trick question. no laws on the books concerning abortion in any way, shape, or form.
Vexual: so iwas right on both counts
nubbins`: yeah, i think taking issue with the word "rare" is sort of missing the point
nubbins`: imagine: "abortion should be safe, legal, and commonplace:
mircea_popescu: imagine something else : what the same "observers" (= famished idiots trying to make money out of blather) would have said in that case.
nubbins`: anyway. you can get an abortion in canada a week before your due date, if you can convince a doctor to give you one
mircea_popescu: "oppressive heternormativeness forcing women tyo be pregnant!11"
Vexual: does it have to be a doctor?
nubbins`: i don't think a nurse practitioner would do it
nubbins`: not even a "body mod practitioner"
Vexual: 1 week? down low too slow
Vexual: imma have hilly so far up my arse
nubbins`: i wonder what todd bertrang is up to these days
Vexual: ill be rolling cubans errytime i poop
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nubbins`: i recall taking some terrible advice of his at one point in the past
nubbins`: wait, no, that was tom brazda's advice
mircea_popescu: "The only reason that John Delorean avoided a long term prison sentence is that Hustler publisher Larry Flynt was able to obtain tapes showing not only that the drug trafficking idea was invented and proposed by the US government, but that both the cocaine and the money were provided FBI, and most importantly, that John Delorean told the undercover agents that he wasn’t interested and begged to be let go — the tape
mircea_popescu: s show the agents actually threatening to kill John Delorean’s daughter if he didn’t proceed with the drug deal. It should also be noted that Larry Flynt was briefly imprisoned for contempt of court for revealing this information."
mircea_popescu: "At age forty, he was almost single-handedly responsible for the popularity of female genital modification, which, largely due to his promotion of it, had moved out of the fetish scene and become a lucrative business for cosmetic surgeons.
mircea_popescu: While many outsiders disapproved of Todd’s methods and highly sexual lifestyle, the vast majority of Todd’s clients — all consensual of course — spoke extremely highly of him and were very happy with the work he’d done on them."
Vexual: you wanna see coked out flappy birds?
nubbins`: Under questioning from James Walsh, an Assistant United States Attorney, Mr. Flynt said he got the tape from a mystery man he identified only as ''the samurai.''
mircea_popescu: somehow the bme people don't seem to have heard of this tho.
mircea_popescu: "John Delorean recently died destitute, having failed to bring his dream car back to market.
mircea_popescu: That brings us to piercer and cutter Todd Bertrang, a regular BME contributor that was first profiled in PFIQ magazine."
nubbins`: larratt was a whitewasher like no other
mircea_popescu: here's a picture of a cute cat. this brings us to your daugther. she's a slut.
mircea_popescu: "Ask yourselves: how far would you compromise your ethics for $20 million? That’s an amount of money so high that you’d be able to fulfill all your dreams and live in luxury for the rest of your life. At how many million dollars does your cracking point lie?"
mircea_popescu: dude... gtfo. a) 20mn isn't even a house. b) investment is investment. they're not gifting him 20mn.
mircea_popescu: i need 20mn in loans like i need another glass of water. if i want it i'll get it myself.
nubbins`: nevermind that this family can't fly back to egypt but will pay $20mn to cut off some flaps
nubbins`: the number of people who cared when bertrang was arrested? epsilon
mircea_popescu: "And then, before letting him decide whether or not he’d actually make such an ethical compromise, in late 2002 the FBI raided his house, and Todd Bertrang and his girlfriend Robyn have been in prison ever since. No real evidence was ever presented against them, and no trial was ever held. Virtually no one stood up to defend Todd, and even those who supported of him cowered cautiously, fearing that they would be next
mircea_popescu: . Robyn was threatened with the loss of her daughter, and eventually the two of them, being told they would be spending the rest of their lives in prison should they plead not guilty, chose to make a false confession on a variety of charges in exchange for reduced time."
nubbins`: iirc, the whole "mods" vs "practicing medicine w/o license" thing was a BIG DEAL in the usa at the time
nubbins`: guy was destined for jail either way
mircea_popescu: Alright, that one is probably legitimate, although Todd claims that it’s more a matter of confusion and not being told that it was an issue — thanks to America’s lax laws on gun purchases, no red flags showed up when he bought a handgun for home protection and he never considered at the time it was a problem."
assbot: DEL CODE § 1114A : Delaware Code - Section 1114A: TONGUE-SPLITTING; CLASS A MISDEMEANOR; CLASS B MISDEMEANOR; CLASS G FELONY; ADDITIONAL CIVIL PENALTIES ... (
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mircea_popescu: i'ma assume it's rape, assault with a deadly weapon, three counts of arson and some insurance fraud
nubbins`: "Tongue-splitting in the first degree is a class A misdemeanor." heh
mircea_popescu: "(c) Any person found guilty of a second or subsequent violation of this section is guilty of a class G felony for such second or subsequent offense."
nubbins`: in fact, tongue heals itself remarkably quickly
nubbins`: the biggest danger with tongue splittings is having them.... unsplit
nubbins`: if you DO get an infection, yes, your head's a terrible place to get one
nubbins`: but happens much less often than you'd think
mircea_popescu: everything happens a lot more than people who don't think think.
nubbins`: consider how quickly your tongue healed the last time you bit it hard enough to draw blood and oaths
☟︎ Vexual: tongue bar is an insurance risk anyway you look at it
nubbins`: quickest piercings to heal tho
nubbins`: again, because the tongue is designed to heal incredibly quickly
nubbins`: ugh, all i get on youtube now are ads for QuadrigaCX
nubbins`: BREAKING: RNC Chief Bill Janes has ordered an internal investigation into the leak of an email written by the officer who shot Don Dunphy in Mitchells Brook last week
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nubbins`: guy sends an email to EVERY EMPLOYEE of the police force and we're surprised it got out?
nubbins`: Vexual Common Lisp, tho, or Scheme?
assbot: RNC officer who shot Don Dunphy wishes better intervention possible - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... (
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Vexual: i get enuff spam thanks
Vexual: not imma start ignoring dan murphy offer, thanks a lot
Vexual: im assuming the police email it poorly written, is that racist?
pete_dushenski: "i wish i didn't have a kill a dude for writing a tweet"
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pete_dushenski: and rose failing to get up and down on 18 cost him what... $300k ?
pete_dushenski: dat inflation i tell ya, a major was maybe a cool million 10 years ago
pete_dushenski: i really don't follow it anymore but happened to catch the last hole of the tournament at the health club yesterday
nubbins` seriously considers putting all of roomie's possessions out on the sidewalk
nubbins`: it actually bothers me more, the closer it gets to the end of the money
pete_dushenski: you gonna toss his plastic cutting boards to the curb ?
nubbins`: he doesn't own any cutting boards
pete_dushenski: "An examination of its tail may reveal whether the father or the mother was keeping those eggs warm, offering new clues about the social lives of those dinosaurs. It may also reveal where feathers came from, since oviraptors didn't fly and aren't that closely related to the dinosaurs that gave rise to birds, Persons added. "This tells us that in fact complex feathers first originated not for flight or for glidin
nubbins`: birds, the sexiest dinosaurs of all
pete_dushenski: though i suppose it's not an unreasonable assumption to say that feathers were +ev for mating before anything else, calling it 'a fact' is a bit loose
nubbins`: maybe he meant to say "in theory"
nubbins`: or "anecdotal evidence seems to suggest"
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nubbins`: after all, what is the plural of anecdote if not fact?
nubbins`: besides, pete, how you gonna get those sweet research bucks if you're not claiming facts?
pete_dushenski: or just old doods who made a buck along the way and think that dinosaurs are neato
pete_dushenski: perhaps wishing that someone would care that much about their old bones someday
nubbins`: pete_dushenski probably universities who say "hey, this researcher is interested in X, and if he publishes some papers, we get $Y"
nubbins`: cut the cloth you have in front of you, or w/e the fuck
nubbins`: not like the lead researcher is gonna produce a paper worth shitting on if they don't care what the research is about :D
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pete_dushenski: "Amazon Echo is designed around your voice. It's always on—just ask for information, music, news, weather, and more. Echo begins working as soon as it detects the wake word."
jurov: ;;isup trilema.com
jurov: mircea_popescu: ^ same here since yest
☟︎ ben_vulpes: jurov: there's fallout from the fetlife brouhaha
pete_dushenski: of note, i never say "turn off the lights" but rather "close the lights"
pete_dushenski: the french "ferme les lumieres" has gibbled my english
chetty: whos coming to the conf that I can twist their arm for a favor?
chetty: some kelp/iodine tablets :)
pete_dushenski: i dunno why anyone would want to talk to a computer instead of type into it
☟︎ pete_dushenski: what else are they doing around their house that's occupying their hands ? changing diapers ?
chetty: yup ben_vulpes something like that would be perfect :)
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i'll be damned if i let 7 microphones connected to teh cloud in ma house
williamdunne: *This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.*
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pete_dushenski: echo makes it even easier to end up like that dead canadian tweeter
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ben_vulpes: lol mats how'd they get that truck so high up in the air?
mats: prob a 50 pound charge
ben_vulpes: so the IED truck drove over an IED, blasted off like team rocket and then assploded at apogee?
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 13:36:52; mircea_popescu: women are slightly vulnerable to bad bathrooms, but slightly. you're a guy, you don't have a problem there. what are you going to catch, rabies ?
gribble: Current Blocks: 351969 | Current Difficulty: 4.944639068824144E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 352799 | Next Difficulty In: 830 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 24 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47894617759.2 | Estimated Percent Change: -3.13829
TheNewDeal: anyone ever seen a calculation for typical statistical two week step for a difficulty change at flat hashrate?
☟︎ ascii_field: (basic boojum of 'harvested' energy from heat, small photovoltaic, vibration, etc. is that current is small, voltage varies wildly, and polarity also fluctuates)
ascii_field: and where is the attached golden toilet bill for crapping it out once eaten ?
ascii_field: (can we safely assume that golden toilet in this restaurant charges per-kg ?)
pete_dushenski: and as far as waitering goes, $7,328.20 seems pretty, pretty, pretty sweet
pete_dushenski: 'this is what rich people do' or somesuch being the title
pete_dushenski: ah, no claim was made to ownership, merely 'o lookie here'
ascii_field will one day complete his mars lander and see alive what 'rich people do'
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: well, you're going to the conference so...
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: i recall this well as these are the source of the only pictures i've ever seen of you
ascii_field is not especially interesting to look at and tends to avoid having picture taken when possible
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Can you please rewrite without the first paragraph footnotes being footnotes in the first paragraph?
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: nonsense. there's no such thing as someone who isn't interesting to look at.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The information is useful to include, the method of using first paragraph footnotes weirds up the first page though.
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pete_dushenski: "Note: To stall core development 6 years after inception is perhaps the stupidest thing anyone has ever recommended in the history of time." << because 'sapien' knows all the histories nao ?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Just woke up and getting to the news digging
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: how is it that you have asciilifeform !up you sometimes ?
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trinque: same thing happened with the patriot act
trinque: written and proposed long before it actually passed
trinque: they'll ram this through the same way if it takes 30 years
☟︎ trinque: though I wouldn't be surprised if they pass something this year
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williamdunne: trinque: Would front door not suggest that its easier to enter than simply a back door?
trinque: williamdunne: NSA proposes they become keybase.io for all encrypted communications
williamdunne: trinque: except with NSAbase.io you *have* to give them your keys
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trinque: so what of encryption done on airgapped networks?
trinque: this implies a requirement that encryption be done on internet-connected machines
☟︎ trinque: I guess it doesn't if the NSA keys are bolted into every system made
trinque: it's hard to fathom precisely what they propose here
trinque: probably something like "uh... we need access to all the iPhones"
williamdunne: trinque: I would imagine they either a) want flawed PRNG or b) want all encryption to be done to the recipients key and the NSA's golden key
trinque: williamdunne: sure, then they want to monitor all communications in order to enforce this requirement (nothing new, but brings it into the "open")
williamdunne: trinque: I suppose we should be thankful that the GPG developer is in Germany
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: that guy has nothing to do with anything
ben_vulpes: and will remain that way until someone in la serenissima gets fed up and rewrites it.
☟︎ mats: not so complicated, cert. store and USG owns a master key
mats: flawed PRNG, borked constants, etc, would be a hard sell
mats: oh, thats what i get for not reading the article
lobbes: <ben_vulpes> gpg 1.4 is the only gpg to use << oy, so my privkey isn't as private as I thought? I feel like I'm always realizing I'm using the borked versions of all the things
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: how is it that you ... << perlscript, nothing remarkable
☟︎ ascii_field: pete_dushenski: remote access to keys ? << not as such
funkenstein_: speaking of which i was going to ask you guys if gpg needs ecdsa support
funkenstein_: so one could use a bitcoin key for gpg privkey
funkenstein_: ascii_field, for some reason i was unable to ask myself that simple question thanks :P
funkenstein_: there are multiple DSAs, seems like it is supposed to be extensible
ascii_field: funkenstein_: so one could use a bitcoin key for gpg privkey << i am still at a loss as to why one might wish to do this..
funkenstein_: for example, i could check your pubkey and send you coin
funkenstein_: i mean, it saves the step of you signing an address
lobbes: did trilema migrate? << I, too, have not been able to load it today
☟︎ ascii_field: funkenstein_> for example, i could check your pubkey and send you coin << you can do that now. create addr, fill it, send over proper pgp
funkenstein_: yeah i guess there is no need to make it crufiter
funkenstein_: sometimes people like to use gpg for key management
ascii_field: the 'key management' is, imho, a crudfest and Must Die (TM)
ascii_field: but operator should select path on file system and give, e.g., destination pubkey for a ciphergram, as operand on commandline.
ascii_field: it is mostly worthless as presently implemented
ascii_field: (e.g., can i tell gpg 'this key is now expired but existing signatures remain valid until heat death of universe' ? afaik no)
funkenstein_: i agree but i thought that was cause i haven't been using it long enough
ascii_field: ^ and yes this doesn't exist because it is not physically possible to implement it as a hard guarantee (why is an exercise for the reader)
ascii_field: but to my eye this is a reason to dispense with the 'expiration' and other nebulous 'meta' entirely.
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 15:53:31; nubbins`: consider how quickly your tongue healed the last time you bit it hard enough to draw blood and oaths
Michail1: Anyone have a suggestion on if arch or debian is better suited for pogoplug? recommendation?
trinque: dunno why one or the other would be best suited
trinque: depends mostly on whether you have a working kernel config
ascii_field: Michail1: what is the machine used for? for instance, if as a blunt weapon, than a length of chain is preferably to debian -and- arch
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the pogoplug ? it's used to run the bitcoin node
Michail1: intended to be used only as a full node.
ascii_field: build own linux. instructions can be found in the log.
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mircea_popescu: he's still gonna start offa something. iirc danielpbarron had instructions from arch ? or was it debian ?
Michail1: Thanks. As I was converting the plug, I discovered that both builds were listed/suggested, but wanted to know if there was a reason to choose one over the other. Hell, I will just make one of each since there is no compelling reason to do one over the other.
trinque: as far as which distro, it's just a matter of preference; nothing in one or the other will rule out operating on the pogo
Michail1: Thanks. That is the one I used; however, that one is more geared to debian although I did arch. Also, that link doesn't tell you that booting from the USB3 ports doesn't work (costing me an hour).
mats: recent versions of debian and arch have systemd fwiw
ascii_field: Michail1: i have a 'buildroot' config published, that yields a minimal linux for pogov4.
ascii_field: it is not difficult to build. well worth it.
mircea_popescu: "For Mr. Dunphy, we were simply too late — but that doesn't mean we stop forging ahead into hopelessness, anguish and despair with the view of creating betterment, safety and wellbeing for the citizens we serve."
Michail1: ascii_field - published ehere?
mircea_popescu: some idiot canadian murderer for hire thinks that working for the prime minister allows him to not only shoot random people
mircea_popescu: but also shoot the fact that he's a murderer for hire shooting people.
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 16:31:45; pete_dushenski: such science these paleotards
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Didn't you hear? He has popular mandate!
mircea_popescu: it's quite obvious executions will be required, and en masse. just saying it now so people don't start pestering me with concerns once we're in a position to do it, like they did last fucking time around.
mircea_popescu: no, shooting the "dictatorial couple" is neither here nor there. shooting ^ that guy is the point.
danielpbarron: Michail1, i have bitcoind working on Arch; when i tried it on debian i ran into problems relating it not being a "static" build
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 17:14:08; jurov: mircea_popescu: ^ same here since yest
ascii_field: '"Although I cannot regret my actions last Sunday, I unequivocally wish I could have visited Mr. Dunphy at a point in his life where another level of intervention may have been possible," the officer wrote in the email, obtained by CBC News.'
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 17:17:50; pete_dushenski: i dunno why anyone would want to talk to a computer instead of type into it
ascii_field for what it's worth expects to be killed in some variation on this theme
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i would hope that if you point a gun at some idiot govt agent, you a) it's not a rifle indoors ; b) it's not a 22 caliber etc.
mircea_popescu: i'd say i hope you shoot them, but then again you're not muscle so.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: don't forget the basic formula here
ascii_field: there needn't be any of these props involved
ascii_field: the rifle will be placed on the corpse by the police dept. at their leisure, etc.
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williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Seems to me that being able to use voice commands could have limited usage for mundane tasks, so they can be performed without distraction from what you are actually trying to do
mircea_popescu: williamdunne it's a psychological thing dood. there's a large swath of imbeciles pretending like they're using computers.
mircea_popescu: the welfare governments wish to cultivate this pretense.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Do you not think it would be useful to be able to set a reminder without leaving your text editor? This is the sort of mundane task I was thinking of (certainly not enough to spark any sort of industry)
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 17:20:03; williamdunne: *This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.*
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: fetlife has told the wayback-machine to drop your blog post
trinque: williamdunne: keybindings, not voice commands
trinque: learn ya a proper window manager like stumpwm
williamdunne: wayback-machine does all sorts of derpy things, like it uses the current robots.txt rather than the historical robots.txt at the time of publication.
williamdunne: trinque: I'll have a look at it, I just like the idea of saying "remind me to get food out of the oven in 20" while in the middle of doing something that might actually matter
trinque: williamdunne: if being able to do that requires shipping an audio file of my every command to google, I'll pass
trinque: the speech-to-text maybe not; parsing and interpeting what's said, surely
williamdunne: trinque: guess it depends on the amount of functionality, doesn't seem like it would require to much to cover a fairly large number of commands
trinque: program launcher bound to key, pick a reminder proggie, keybinding to add reminder, type stuff, <enter>
trinque: should take less than 10 sec
lobbes: or egg timer for oven related tasks ;/
mats: "In 2005, when a book by oil analyst Matthew Simmons predicted a drop-off in Saudi output would signal that global supplies were beginning an irreversible decline, Naimi belittled the claims and promised higher production capacity. He won the argument. The Saudis pump more today than a decade ago." heh.
mircea_popescu: heh. the saudis are stuck. sitting on a pile of non renewable resources is only valuable if the resources are still relevant.
mircea_popescu: crushing obama is obviously worth "all the oil" to them
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 17:43:05; TheNewDeal: anyone ever seen a calculation for typical statistical two week step for a difficulty change at flat hashrate?
williamdunne: The calculation wouldn't change regardless of hashrate change would it?
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ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> mircea_popescu: Do you not think it would be useful to be able to set a reminder without leaving your text editor? This is the sort of mundane task I was thinking of (certainly not enough to spark any sort of industry)
ben_vulpes: << your text editor doesn't handle reminders etc?
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williamdunne: ben_vulpes: thanks for those links, I'll look into that
ben_vulpes: heh i don't really expect you to just start using emacs
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: If I had a reason to change, I might. I've been meaning to look into it for a while
williamdunne: "Did you know that the average tax return so far for 2015 is $3,539! What would, or will, you do with that hard earned money the government so graciously returned to you after borrowing it at 0% interest?"
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mats: many folks got free money this year
mats: 'Earned Income Tax Credit'
jurov: as "free money" i tend to imagine something other
lobbes: re: tax idiocy. There are towns where I live that feel fit to tax income on residents that make their money out-of-town.
☟︎ lobbes: Of course they don't tell you this when you move into these municipalities, thus leaving many fucked a few years down the line with interest, et al
mats: and you can't tell them to fuck off if you live out of state?
lobbes: ah, but these aren't even state taxes. 'Local Tax'
williamdunne: lobbes: The USG does the same on foreign earned income.. when you neither live nor work in the US
jurov: "Finally, some people conflate the idea of a global transition from plain HTTP to HTTPS as a move by CA's to make more money. They might argue that first, we need to get rid of CA's or provide an alternative path for obtaining certificates. I disagree. Switching from plain HTTP to HTTPS is step one. Step two might include adding more avenues for establishing trust and authentication."
☟︎ lobbes: 'the time for plaintext is over' l0l
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jurov: "If you actually go to read the details of the proposal rather than relying only on the headline, you'd find that there is an intent to actually let you continue to use
http for, e.g., localhost."
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trinque: yeah.. like portland's fucking "art tax"
trinque: damn it; I was scrolled up :p
trinque: yeah, you know, to support... art... for the children (?)
trinque: precursor to a portland income tax, I guarantee it
lobbes: "If due, the Arts Tax is $35 per person"
☟︎ trinque: totally not a poll tax, because it doesn't count if you make less than 1000/yr
trinque: this country is full of imbeciles
williamdunne: trinque: I was led to believe it was for the disabled gay orphaned puppies
trinque: so they can finger (paw?) paint
trinque: but more importantly to spin up a new bureaucracy that can handle taking an income tax in
☟︎ trinque: "The practical effect of the tax is to tax income of certain City residents within a certain income range and is therefore not a poll or head tax." LOL
trinque: how bout a tax on everyone with arms
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assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 18:10:52; ascii_field: and who said homo redditus was poor, aha
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assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 18:30:28; pete_dushenski: "Note: To stall core development 6 years after inception is perhaps the stupidest thing anyone has ever recommended in the history of time." << because 'sapien' knows all the histories nao ?
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 18:49:07; trinque: they'll ram this through the same way if it takes 30 years
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 18:53:12; trinque: this implies a requirement that encryption be done on internet-connected machines
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 18:59:08; ben_vulpes: and will remain that way until someone in la serenissima gets fed up and rewrites it.
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 19:33:30; ascii_field: pete_dushenski: how is it that you ... << perlscript, nothing remarkable
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 19:35:44; TheNewDeal: did trilema migrate?
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 19:39:06; lobbes: did trilema migrate? << I, too, have not been able to load it today
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 19:45:59; ascii_field: like it having any state at all
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assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 20:57:40; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: any word back from fortune ?
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 21:34:15; williamdunne: "Did you know that the average tax return so far for 2015 is $3,539! What would, or will, you do with that hard earned money the government so graciously returned to you after borrowing it at 0% interest?"
mircea_popescu: which a desperate govt would be doing, obviously. and so... one way or another...
williamdunne: But USG spending is so stable? Hence why they keep growing year on year.
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 22:18:42; lobbes: re: tax idiocy. There are towns where I live that feel fit to tax income on residents that make their money out-of-town.
williamdunne: (they being the collective employees of the USG)
mircea_popescu: they only exist because of the expenditure. how would it not grow ?
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 22:21:13; jurov: "Finally, some people conflate the idea of a global transition from plain HTTP to HTTPS as a move by CA's to make more money. They might argue that first, we need to get rid of CA's or provide an alternative path for obtaining certificates. I disagree. Switching from plain HTTP to HTTPS is step one. Step two might include adding more avenues for establishing trust and authentication."
mircea_popescu: yes, the time for plaintext is over, but because wots and so on, not because pki.
mircea_popescu: pki isn't even a thing anymore. i don't use it, for instance.
jurov: i quoted that mainly because of the planning
jurov: step 1. make utter mess step 2. whatever
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 22:28:39; lobbes: "If due, the Arts Tax is $35 per person"
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 22:30:33; trinque: but more importantly to spin up a new bureaucracy that can handle taking an income tax in
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mats: heh, six people in the office had their tax returns stolen
mats: (also, can anyone explain why the IRS issues debit cards for refunds? i'm told they're "untraceable" by folks that spoke to LEOs regarding the matter)
williamdunne: mats: Somehow I doubt that the IRS wouldn't track to whom they issue each card
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