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cazalla: don't forget the 180m he owns USG despite em selling his proceeds
trinque: I wonder if it will ever be known how many usg intelligence agents have been planted in various public offices
decimation: he was indicted by a grand jury for... not telling usg what he was going to do with his cash
ascii_field: 'Bitfury developed a light bulb that automatically mines Bitcoin when you screw it in' << for usg, aha
ascii_field: good riddance and three cheers to the eventual replacement of all usg aircraft with paper airplanes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the usg senior caste has.
mircea_popescu: soon enough usg folk will be able to eat paper and so on.
asciilifeform: because they get fed by usg automagically
mircea_popescu: the idea isn't to make it impossible for the usg to pretend like itexists.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the payola from usg continues, life carries on. at no point are actual users required.
decimation: ^ result of usg policy, housing sex offenders in a trailer park is a thing
mats: should be interesting to see how USG power projection strategy develops with fielding of the S/VTOL F-35s and rail gun
mats: once USG loses a carrier or two the whole show will cascade, followed with binning of most of the sub fleet
mats: god forbid USG actually trains people in HUMINT gathering
gabriel_laddel: To those who would say "Oh you can't possibly sell a 3D CLIM, no one needs that" I will note that we *know* the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (Weapons and Complex Integration) built VisIt on top of OpenGL. They accept it as a given. USG doesn't want to win wars, but I'm willing to bet that someone on Earth does. One easy way to free up eng
decimation: I suspect usg will withdraw because they don't want the court to rule that thier little export regulation house of cards is unconstitutional
decimation: mircea_popescu: of course, but that would give ground for usg to attempt to throw you in jail
decimation: what has usg done against them?
decimation: right, which is why usg isn't going to test it again
decimation: mircea_popescu: " foss is fundamentally immune to this bs" < not clear. however I suspect usg would not want to try to stick someone posting foss - because the courts would likely find that this kind of regulation would contradict the first amendment
decimation: (unless you get a license and permission from usg of course)
decimation: ^ usg is proposing to implement a treaty (purely via executive fiat) to ban the export of 'intrusion software'
mircea_popescu: b-a is the sitting authority, not some random twerps on the mailing list of some random usg-mandated security theatre "product"
decimation: "premeditated disregard for usg's rules"
asciilifeform: official usg law, no less
asciilifeform: http://spaf.cerias.purdue.edu/usgov/index.html << also l0l
ascii_field: if zimmerman isn't in the pay of usg - he oughta be sending them a bill.
ascii_field: usg -has- his genuine private key when it wants to.
ascii_field: https://twitter.com/pgpcorp << lulzy usgization
ascii_field: who, if anyone, will usg sack ?
ascii_field: (or what, usg hasn't graduated from hogwarts yet and doesn't do poison?)
asciilifeform: hence how the '90s 'crypto wars' ended with 'crypto is usg-legal but you can't buy an actual computer' thing
asciilifeform: on planet usg, it is always 1992
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1141745 << smbx spent a fortune on r&d. they tried to amortize this cost any way they could, but nothing worked - other than peddling golden toilets to usg and subsidiaries. when political fortunes changes - it was over. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 02:22:08; decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-05-2015#1140385 < free herring is nice, but plenty of other places have free herring/oil/usg favors
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-05-2015#1140385 < free herring is nice, but plenty of other places have free herring/oil/usg favors ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: nao, linking "phuctor" anchor to usg-replacement.
assbot: Logged on 20-05-2015 06:57:41; isaackl: And if Balaji is a USG shill he's a damn good actor
isaackl: mircea_popescu: OK, to connect it to reality. Sovereign wealth fund, has a lot of USD. Realises USG is shaky and wants to diversify. How do they decide how much to allocate to gold or bitcoin?
isaackl: And if Balaji is a USG shill he's a damn good actor ☟︎
isaackl: So who are the 5%, how has USG compromised them
ben_vulpes: <decimation> [01:51] or is the 'price signal' one of those things usg can will into existance? << are you familiar with the "winkdex"?
decimation: or is the 'price signal' one of those things usg can will into existance?
mircea_popescu: you've done what a hacker news reader would do, reading the usg piece instead of my piece and imagining "oh i read about crypto"
williamdunne: Africa might actually stand a chance of doing something if it weren't for various restrictions placed by EU, USG and co
decimation: one wonders why the hell usg doesn't investigate this kind of stuff
mats: which is why you can buy MREs for three bux when USG pays twelve per iirc
decimation: mats: I shudder to think about what the rest of usg is up to
decimation: sure, and rather than trusting in his judgment, usg sees fit to shower him with thousands of 'requirements'
jurov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO5ectGTcOU justJanne: the "sustained" was just your luck that usg needed to prop you up
mircea_popescu: that aside, the question of how exactly weak keys came to be, and what are they doing there and so on and so forth is not nearly as uninteresting as the usg agency would like to make it.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the next batch of usg dept of internet outsourcers, to replace the current batch of third worlders : http://i.imgur.com/9EG2jYA.gifv
mircea_popescu: <decimation> they got usg's nukes on call if they need them << nope, not anymore. new king is trashing the alliance.
trinque: http://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-considers-nuclear-weapons-to-offset-iran-1430999409 << usg might be shifting the balance of power in the region towards their competitor
decimation: they got usg's nukes on call if they need them
decimation: usg is all over the place
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132907 << again, in usa, this wage would disqualify you for any usg payola for 'the poor' while putting you precisely one medical or legal bill away from life-long debt, jail, or graveyard ☝︎
asciilifeform: live by usg, die by usg
decimation: asciilifeform: usg friendly 'liberal' majors are subsidized, of course
ascii_field: still usg turdware
decimation: some young officers - tought from entry that lying is very bad - find the real working of usg to be shocking
decimation: mircea_popescu: in this particular case, the guy claims that usg levies so many 'requirements' on its employees that no human could possibly fulfill them
decimation: usg's style is to seize someone's bitcoin and put it in their vault
decimation: I find it terribly unlikely that any formal usg employee is mining bitcoin
mircea_popescu: how is a derpy usg with delusions of separation and self importance different or better from the numerous groups of derpy miners with similar delusions that came and went over the years ?
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 22:19:52; danielpbarron: i don't have a problem with USG getting 1/3 of all the bitcoin; the can only spend it once
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you gotta appreciate, the usg is not the only one mining, nor has it been. at this point, the deployment you contemplate might allow it to catch up, but won't do much more than that.
mircea_popescu: of course they have. usg wants pki everywhere.
asciilifeform: i'm still curious, who is going to outcompete a hypothetical usg telecom monopoly inserting miners into cable boxes etc. and on what parameter ? cost of energy ? nope - schmucks pay. cost of manufacture? again, schmucks pay, indirectly. which is it ?
asciilifeform: but merely the minimal iron necessary to getwork() from usg and return results in a form that is unusable to mitmers
asciilifeform: 'eco lobby' is a usg tentacle like any other.
asciilifeform: usg claims ownership of the sun, moon, stars. orders the sea whipped. news at eleven.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hm i guess my hypothesis is that usg won't claim enough of remaining unmined btc to throw a wrench in the individual sovereignty of those in #b-a.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i am still curious re: your hypothesis. was it that usg will not claim the remaining unmined btc, or that it doing so is uninteresting to us ?
asciilifeform: it is well-known that usg does. and that no such item makes it out of usa via the post unless usg wills it.
mircea_popescu: does usg-effective mean "bitcoin needs a decision making process which a) doesn't include mp as we've been pretending was the case all along and b) overrepresents us, as we've idem" ?
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 21:27:38; asciilifeform: re: l0ltr0n1cs: today i found out that ed felten (formerly 'freedom to tinker' blog, lawsuits against riaa, etc.) has been a usg stooge for several years now.
asciilifeform: jurov: grid isn't pegged. not by a long shot. think of the whole affair as usg imposing a (comparatively, tiny) tax on its subjects with which to buy hash.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: here's the test : within 12 months (or 12 years ?), the 'usg' will be unable to double-spend a bitcoin transaction.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: another problem with the "oh noes usg" card is that, as you well know, it's not monolithic. the infighting over any coins it gets its hands on will be considerable. and divisive.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: my counter is that calc ^. so within 100 years, usg is as deadly as pirate or karpeles !
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i'm trying to understand your counter here. is it that usg pocketing the last 1/3 of btc is not annoying? or that double-spends are not a problem ? or... what ?
danielpbarron: who would accept a transaction from USG ? and why should I feel sorry for them?
jurov: asciilifeform: and where usg gets the extra terawatt?
danielpbarron: i don't have a problem with USG getting 1/3 of all the bitcoin; the can only spend it once ☟︎
pete_dushenski: in any event, if the usg ends up with 18% of hashrate, albeit briefly, and throwing the kitchen sink at the the thing in the process, it would be about time they did something so productive.
danielpbarron: USG would have to further inflate the dollar to do that
pete_dushenski: so the usg'd have 18% in this scenario.
trinque: the idea that the whole USG is the decrepit post office is laughable
pete_dushenski: so by this time in 2016 the usg has 10 mn gh/s at its disposal.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: usg is correctly leveraging its only strengths - subterfuge, on captive audiences, backed by threat of brute force
asciilifeform: e.g., does it matter if usg becomes largest hash force ?
trinque: asciilifeform: I'd expect some broken off appendage of the NSA to accumulate a sizable stash of coin even if the rest of the USG falls apart
asciilifeform: was a genuine annoyance to usg, in the courts, press, net
asciilifeform: re: l0ltr0n1cs: today i found out that ed felten (formerly 'freedom to tinker' blog, lawsuits against riaa, etc.) has been a usg stooge for several years now. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (usg miners)
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mircea_popescu: !rate gavinandresen -10 Perennial Bitcoin lolcow and ex USG asset.
asciilifeform: the thing is, usg had roughly same relation with ru elite as brits had with india
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anbd re wynn's mishap : http://www.google.com.ar/url?url=http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/10/23/the-40-million-elbow&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ei=1MxSVZXzHsOdgwTPxYAo&ved=0CBoQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHcHL4pbfohTFpHaR9wDiL5DGoE2A