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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski your latest header sucks yo
assbot: Logged on 23-05-2015 20:15:57; Apocalyptic: since p has exactly the same size as q I would say it's quite ok to use the size of p for both, although it's not intuitive that it's correct
gribble: isaackl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <isaackl> mircea_popescu: and how do you prefer to communicate? all through the channel?
Apocalyptic: "there's no guarantee p and q have the same bitsize is there ?" // I think there is, a couple of lines above it generates them both with nbits/2 bits, so I would say yes, unless there is a bug in "generate_secret_prime", because this function specifically sets the two high bits to 1
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is true, but you have no guarantee you will only be handling keys generated by your own generator.
mircea_popescu: it's not in the standard they're the same size, is it ?
mircea_popescu: (i have trouble recalling that whole spec, which is one of the things that are fucking wrong with it)
Apocalyptic: and this is from a very quick look at the gen_prime function, a more thorough analysis may reveal something else
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> this is true, but you have no guarantee you will only be handling keys generated by your own generator. // afaik this is not related to handling keys, the snippet mats pasted is key-generation related
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> it's not in the standard they're the same size, is it ? // I confess I have no idea what the standard says
Apocalyptic: in general there is no size restrictions on the primes
mircea_popescu: not as in "what rsa means", as in "what rsa 4096" means
mircea_popescu: is rsa 4096 bit a guarantee you will have an n 4096 bits long (i think) or is it actually you will have two primes 2048 bits long each, with high bit set each.
Apocalyptic: good question, I so far assumed it's the former
mircea_popescu: i think it's the former yeah. which is why the "p=q" thing triggers the reader, i guess
mats: id like to run tests but i dun have the ability to do so right now
mats: and yes i was referring to those particular lines Apocalyptic
mircea_popescu: by the metric that i just looked in trilema logs and Google Chrome 2,252,411 hits 41.1 % Firefox 1,986,192 hits 36.3 %
mircea_popescu: o.o junior's starting his failed bids for presidency career early ?!
mircea_popescu: how many can he lose, if he lives as long as dad, 10-15ish ?
funkenstein_: in it he's shilling some book, but he gives some pretty strong warnings on the currency front
funkenstein_: so one reason it would be nice to have ECDSA as an asym. crypto option in PGP
funkenstein_: is that I could easily generate my own entropy for my keypair
mircea_popescu: but no, what i want is dual rsa-cs for b-a's dream-reimplementaton of pgp
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ generating entropy is not easy, and oyu can already do that as-is.
funkenstein_: i hope it's not that easy, i've been trying for hours.
mats: dunno what the big deal is, clearly americans want to be spied on
mircea_popescu: mats eh, this is just a dog and pony show for young rand etc. what'll happen is the wh backe,d house vetted solution where the nsa doesn't keep the records, phone companies do, nsa just asks for what it needs.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is more in line with the "privatize costs, centralize benefits of the police state" approach the us has been taking since the 80s
mats: heh, i had that thought when i saw it
mats: "what legal fuck fuck games are they gonna play nao"
mircea_popescu: note that after the (recent) waco massacre, the criminals (waco police) blamed the... OWNER OF THE PIZZA JOINT.
mircea_popescu: the future of the us at all levels is this thing where it's your job as the business owner to do the work of the police
mircea_popescu: what teh public wants or doesn't want is really supporting cast in this trend.
mats: god forbid USG actually trains people in HUMINT gathering
funkenstein_: ;;later tell pete_dushenski stop by lambada bar on langstrasse for me if you get a chance
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mats: i had an interesting discussion with a project manager from general atomics
mats: we discussed the future of airframes in USN and he validated my suspicion that they'll be obsolete inside of a decade (if not right now)
mats: last time they had a real program was with the F-18 in the late 70s iirc
mats: now they're being forced into working on the F-35 and JSF and its obv becoming a boondoggle because they simply don't have the expertise for it
mats: along with the many chiefs problem
mats: once USG loses a carrier or two the whole show will cascade, followed with binning of most of the sub fleet
mats: should be interesting to see how USG power projection strategy develops with fielding of the S/VTOL F-35s and rail gun
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mats: "Indeed, the problem with all of this is that the F-35 is not bringing much to the picture which could not have been installed via upgrades in the older platforms, and thus the very length of generational separation from pilot access to these 'downloadable apps' equivalents to a civilian iPad is distorting pilot perception of improvement when we -could- have
mats: had alternatives like Falcon Eye (far more reliable head steered FLIR) since the 1990s."
assbot: Logged on 20-05-2015 19:30:08; jurov: i heard f35 cannot transition from hover to forward movement
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell funkenstein_ will try on the way back through next week :)
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i agree on the header. i felt like a change but it was kinda a weird/unflattering choice. new one is up, fresh from zurich !
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: o.o junior's starting his failed bids for presidency career early ?! << Baby Paul is actually kind of one of the frontrunners. Also less cool than his father for sure.
jurov: mats: f35 will be afaik STOVL anyway (need short runway to take off), vertical takeoff used only to very short distances
mircea_popescu: dude it'll be so sad if the v2.0 which sucks actually gets the title.
mircea_popescu: <mats> last time they had a real program was with the F-18 in the late 70s iirc << word.
trinque: mircea_popescu: rand is "not an isolationist" in his words, supports a war against ISIS
mircea_popescu: how does he plan to win a war of the omlette against the fork for the side of the omlette ?
mircea_popescu: (yes i get it, the aggregate mass of eggs the fork drives down over its lifetime far exceeds the mass of the fork in question. so ?)
trinque: his plan seems to be, take his fathers positions and dilute them all
trinque: "yes but..." << see, I'm the reasonable Paul
mircea_popescu: the only winning plan would be to make it mandatory for any woman that ever wrote or aspired to writing for any "social justice" outlet to spend the time she's got left until 30 as a harem slave in the arab world.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: with my current availability even php's not an option, js is the only stopgap that'd word
ben_vulpes: and it's not pillar-sittin, it's pure time.
ben_vulpes: i have a spike of a pgptron comment engine but it's nothing serviceable for use
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what, srsly ? << Yeah, also apparently really popular among the colored folks
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wasn't anything too riveting, apparently, as now i dun recall. BingoBoingo black people are what, 10% ?
mircea_popescu: ended up with him because discussion of no roses for miss blemish.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [15:09] note that after the (recent) waco massacre, the criminals (waco police) blamed the... OWNER OF THE PIZZA JOINT. << aha i didn't follow this one. link?
mircea_popescu: apparently it's the spamlist of some internet marketeer or other. oops.
mircea_popescu: (same Xlhost.com as in the arbt thing discussed there)
decimation: mircea_popescu: not only that but the franchise owners 'disowned' the pizza joint owner
decimation: "Then comes a second, more unexpected warning: ?Now, guys, I?ve got to tell you this park, I believe, is a sex-offender park. Everyone in here is a sex offender. I could be wrong, we?re going to find out, but I think that?s the deal on this one. So stay together as a herd.?"
decimation: ^ result of usg policy, housing sex offenders in a trailer park is a thing
decimation: " She rents trailer pad spots for about $325 a month. The trailers are either owned by the tenant or rented from a third party. Many trailers are divided into three bedrooms, for which tenants are charged $500 a month per room."
decimation: so apparently it costs $1825 per month to rent a spot to park your trailer in a florida swamp
mircea_popescu: honestly, i'd much rather hang out with sex offenders than with the average florida-ite
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Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: “they seem scacely worth the time” / scarcely
assbot: Logged on 23-05-2015 07:24:13; mircea_popescu:
http://traackr.com/ dude all these web 2.1 bullshits, where you can't even establish wtf they're supposedly doing AT ALL.
jurov: lmao mircea fell for hn's startup generator?
jurov: One of the biggest challenges we faced after we hit our early goals was how do we stay top-of-mind and keep our users engaged? Enter Complaintme. Problem solved.
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trinque: "Some outlets have reported the US intelligence community’s internal prediction of the rise of ISIS. Yet none have accurately acknowledged the disturbing details exposing how the West knowingly fostered a sectarian, al-Qaeda-driven rebellion in Syria."
trinque: "Crucially, Iraq is labeled as an integral part of this “Shia expansion.”" << this provides context for the recent change in US-Saudi relations