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ben_vulpes: i don't even programming and don't do that

mircea_popescu: i don't think today's logic does anything ; and i don't expect carrying it forward is useful. spec does include room for trb.n to do some banning, including on the basis of passively exfiltrated data from trb.b. that a protocol for this purpose may later develop i don't dispute, but it's not included both because it's not needed and because it can't become a "dependency". it's not.

davout: asciilifeform: i don't thing the argument that the block validation logic can be found in the block validation logic is tenuous

Framedragger: but i agree that things don't look too good.

mircea_popescu: Framedragger you are aware firefox is dead for all practical purposes, yes ? in fact i don't know any browser that lost market share at its speed, except of course netscape back in the day.

Framedragger: certainly nothing of huge import. some of those are definitely a bit snakeoil'y, but not completely useless. i don't know how much you care about e.g. browser fingerprinting. right now html5 canvas leaks badly, i.e. "The adversary simply renders WebGL, font, and named color data to a Canvas element, extracts the image buffer, and computes a hash of that image data. Subtle differences in the video card, font packs, and even font and graph

trinque: yep. other than a system built atop simple first principles (scheme or forth-a-tron) I don't see that a sensible approach to learning can be had.

pete_dushenski: right. which is why people don't want to talk to me and why i'm talking to you lot of bots!

mircea_popescu: and by "perfectly functioning brain" i don't mean they're qualified to work the cash register. suppose one day the bishop of vad comes to you and asks you that. the man knows plenty of things, what do you say to him SO THAT YOU DO NOT LIE.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I don't think I basically get enough of what it was that was going on there to comment much further

mats: i don't remember reading anything about alfs encounter

phf: mats: i don't quite remember, but i think you're located somewhere exciting?

trinque: but then I don't know enough about that end of things to know whether the ideology actually flowed from a particular fountain

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to say it again : llvm is not "a competitor" for gcc. llvm was written quite exactly with full knowledge of gcc in mind. you know they fully understand how gcc works, and i don't mean on the first order, but on the last, BECAUSE of little signs like these.

mircea_popescu: i don't know how new they are. seem pretty well formed.

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594781 << hmm. what i could do is, check that all generated gpg keys have the right e and N (by comparing to the e,N,IP CSVs that i fully trust); to make sure that i didn't mess up the gpg-generation thing. i don't think it'd be really possible, and i had done some manual checks before, but maybe worth to write an automated full-on test. ☝︎

asciilifeform: trinque: i don't have a cluster to 'replicate' this onto.

trinque: know what, those reverse dns and geolocation lookups shouldn't even be on the gpg keys, and I don't see yet what it's matching in them.

ben_vulpes: i don't want to hear about your laptop status omg

mats: seeing as how hamas is mobile and the dome is static, i don't see how it could possibly work 9/10 times like .is claims

mod6: i don't think that should be removed. i think that the user aught to have the option to select them if he wants, with rawtx.

davout: script it on top of trb, don't integrate it directly in there is what I think is the correct solution

mod6: i think over all it's a decent approach. have some pre-crafted transactions, and see how it goes. this is minimum. i wanna make sure we don't just capture "happy-path" but, all edge cases too.

trinque: then from there you can optimize and say "I don't care if one guy gets stale form, need moar speed"

mircea_popescu: i don't demand db hand over real memory addresses.

mircea_popescu: and if i don't im racist and rapist ? really ?

mircea_popescu: and i'm supposed to care about the fact that they don't know how to write a db that doesn't spit out passwd ?

mircea_popescu: and here's exactly the problem of superficiality : "you either expect consistency or there's no point in discussing". there's LEVELS. maybe i expect all my writes to be consistent and don't care by A CLASS of reads being consistent. this is a consistency model that's consistent.

jurov: i was just paraphrasing, don't remember the exact word

mircea_popescu: Framedragger see here's what graybeard means : i see that statement, and I KNOW there's a footnote somewhere you don't know about / bother to mention which says "except when abendstar in conjunction with fuckyoustar when it's 105th to 1095th column".

asciilifeform: that means i won't be trying it for couplea weeks. i don't restart db until a current parcel is through submitting.

Framedragger: busy for a bit, i don't want to cite you sth without thinking about it

luke-jr: I don't trust colos.

ben_vulpes: luke-jr: i know you're awake and reading this because you pm'd me. don't pretend otherwise, it's downright foolish.

ben_vulpes: wait phf hang on no i don't think i'm going to do the largest common, i think i'm just going to use the output of patch to figure out what was actually patched

phf: i noticed that btcbase supports filenames with spaces in them: if you start a filename with " it will read until a closing ". i have no idea where i got this from, because gnu diff/patch don't support spaces in names.

a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:39 phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/hashes_and_errors#L118 you don't really want to do this. you're subseq'ing there to strip the a/ b/ but that's not at all a guarantee! i have a vpatch with `diff -ib -ruN /Users/pf/cmucl20d-build/src/hemlock/abbrev.lisp src/abbrev.lisp` in it for example. at the very least you want to abstract it away into its own function. that would correctly operate on a hashed-path datastructure.

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i don't disagree from a philosophical standpoint but nor can i tolerate having dead fucking trb nodes. that i should have to reboot a machine ~daily~ is the death of bitcoin. yukoners never had it so bad.

phf: i don't mean that the patch is called "genesis", i mean that the concept is called genesis, so there's no need for new nomenclature like "true root"

mircea_popescu: meanwhile the female mind, having betrayed the faith she owes the male, is taking refuge in teary-eyed imaginations of "sacrifices" ; in a defensive paleocortex process veheheheery well known by the survivors of the communist countries. "oh, those were the times, I HAD TO SACRIFICE" says every despicable old quisling whore. mno bitch, you didn't have to sacrifice anything, you're just a blob of fat. blobs of fat don't "sacrif

asciilifeform: 'Code page conversion renders binary files unusable during encryption #169' 'Oh god. I don't know what to do here. Unencoded or differently-encoded data needs to undergo this conversion. However, there's no way to detect valid unicode… it's essentially arbitrary binary. I'm at a loss for what to do here, and open to suggestions.'

Framedragger: i did learn that if i don't flush out the funny parts i'll just grow up to be someone with no interior at all. :)

phf: Framedragger: it's always the same with you, "this online personality construct is great" "they do useful research" etc. until they publish "i don't believe in pgp" or really act in any way that you didn't expect. and then you don't have any recourse, because they are online personality constructs. how well do you know this "online researcher" if you ~having spent significant amount of effort to collect and upload ssh keys~ didn't even ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah i'm sure i don't exist because schneier didn't invite me to the latest round of rubber chicken.

asciilifeform: i.e. 'don't exist'

a111: Logged on 2015-07-12 03:47 mircea_popescu: in any case : i don't like aes for purely political reasons. it became an apparent schelling point out of absolutely nowhere for no discernible reason. these situations always stink.

mats: i don't follow

davout: i don't get it, the expensive part for me is "finding the nail clipper", not the "clipping nails"

gabriel_laddel_p: I don't want someone to be able to look up a webpage and debate you about what it is that they get.

phf: also sbcl got some balls. they've been adding all this stuff, don't do this, don't do that. i suppose you can either muffle it, or just not optional the second argument and pass nil everytime there's nothing. fwiw your code always has an argument list, so it's non issue

mircea_popescu: "Obesity can be a disability in the EU. That makes it a sticky legal issue and given that she is the lone female, that makes it doubly so. If she's transgendered (which is possible given that she stands up apparently) then it's triply so. This is so intertwined in legal ramifications I can't imagine anything you can say or do (other than what you are already) that doesn't need a lawyer to make sure you don't end up in a suit.

phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/hashes_and_errors#L118 you don't really want to do this. you're subseq'ing there to strip the a/ b/ but that's not at all a guarantee! i have a vpatch with `diff -ib -ruN /Users/pf/cmucl20d-build/src/hemlock/abbrev.lisp src/abbrev.lisp` in it for example. at the very least you want to abstract it away into its own function. that would correctly operate on a hashed-path datastructure. ☟︎☟︎

ben_vulpes: phf: ty, keep it coming if you don't mind, i must go async

mircea_popescu: i do know exactly what i don't want however.

mircea_popescu: i don't know exactly what i want.

asciilifeform: 'I made this half-pony, half-monkey monster to please you / But I get the feeling that you don't like it / What's with all the screaming? / You like monkeys, you like ponies / Maybe you don't like monsters so much / Maybe I used too many monkeys / Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?' (tm) (r) (j. coulton)

ben_vulpes: i don't want to say something like "ensure you have HEAD of the Ironclad library", i think it's more likely and more in line with waht mod6 is doing to shell out to sha512sum

ben_vulpes: i don't usually fuck with dependencies, but when i do i want my ide to fix all of the problems for me

phf: ben_vulpes: it's actual the opposite lulz right now. intellij idea is excellent tool for shitstacking, but i know ok devs who stick to subltime text or vim because "lightweight" "real hacker tool", even though they lack discipline and skill to use those tools effectively. it's like "no, you should probably use this thing, so that i don't have to fucking deal with your inability to format your own source file"

phf: ben_vulpes: "i don't know what's going on here" "ok, let's see what the source says *opens source, starts reading*" "???!?!??!??!?"

phf: asciilifeform: i literally don't spend ~any time~ learning web on my own. i simply have this unprecedented apparently ability to sit the fuck down and read the documentation/source code for longer then it takes to google twitch. spend 3 hours of reading docs??? forget about it, i might as well be a wizard of some sort.

phf: it's active ~disempowerment~, because opengl is already a tricky state machine, but they are trying to manipulate it by controlling a puppet that's using chopstick to toggle switches on a pdp-10 that has effects on the environment state. i'm sure ~if you don't need unity~ you can filter out all the noise, but good luck if that's your first exposure to 3d

phf: discussing the moon phases of successful appstore game releases with their shamans, i spent about an hour shoulder surfing one of the "main devs". guy was trying to get a texture to render without artifacts (ultimately it's a texture mapped to a surface in opengl and if you don't want the opengl's scaling to kick in you have to get the size just right), and literally everything that he was saying was in terms of "i read this one

phf: mircea_popescu: that's not what i meant. there are others here who talk about good or bad, where's i don't care, because the cause and effect there is so far removed from where i'm standing i can only look at it in entomological terms

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1590973 << hah, pycrypto is ~all~ c. python has this ffi mechanism, where import can work on an .so and there are standard hooks for registering/providing python object equivalents from your c code. in this case i don't think there's a single python line in pycrypto at all ☝︎

Framedragger: i don't know if redirection plugin does that. if you mean that a plugin would add a new line to htaccess then yeah that's retarded. don't think that's how it works

mircea_popescu: incidentally, there must also be a "timing" attack that relies not on time but on properties of integers. and no i don't mean birthday attack - if your hashing is an arithmetic process then necessarily the fundamental fact that "primes count is log integers count" in some sort of restatement is going to bite you somewhere.

mircea_popescu: i don't think alf understands how the world works.

ben_vulpes: oh hey i don't think we did the auttomatic pr plant: http://www.forbes.com/sites/montymunford/2016/12/22/how-wordpress-ate-the-internet-in-2016-and-the-world-in-2017/

Framedragger: (so i don't know. maybe 'keyholder' is really not a property of a key. which i guess it isn't; so maybe i'm just generating noise)

mircea_popescu: i don't get it, this is the reason for what ?

a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 15:51 Framedragger: i don't suppose anyone here has messed with android 'adopted' storage? (use sd card as internal encrypted android storage.) i'm trying to recover files from a half-broken 32GB sd card which has weirdo android-internal partitions and encryption.. oh god

mircea_popescu: i don't get it. suppose you ran a maternity ward, would you go "adding nametags to the kids adds complexity, just send the mothers naked in a room fulla puppies let them pick which fit to their teat" ?

mircea_popescu: i don't expect the 19th century occultist came back ?

Framedragger: i don't suppose anyone here has messed with android 'adopted' storage? (use sd card as internal encrypted android storage.) i'm trying to recover files from a half-broken 32GB sd card which has weirdo android-internal partitions and encryption.. oh god ☟︎

adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1590194 << i don't think crap-rsa ever leaked, although i did publish crap-secp256k1 for deed validation ☝︎

phf: i don't think i can produce any amount of vitriol necessary for the subject

gabriel_laddel: I don't know what it is with the people here, but they're all fucking idiots.

mircea_popescu: but you don't know how many passes of sha i make.

asciilifeform: the one thing i don't quite grasp is why a heavy calibre d00d like the one described, would take the job of ambassador

mircea_popescu: i don;'t get it, wtf is the problem with the string "Galaxy note" whatever.

mircea_popescu: why can't it converge, i don't get it ?

mircea_popescu: i don't see this impossibility you discuss.

mircea_popescu: i don't get it, the genesis has an antecessor ?

mircea_popescu: i don't actually see any of these. to start with, "hash everything" is exactly not what was done in the example. it hashed ~the text~, it did not hash ~the antecessor's hash~. this is the problem. that it doesn't hash everything, but just the text.

mircea_popescu: in any case i don't want to discuss problems in a marriage with proposed solutions.

phf: asciilifeform: i don't really have mental capacity for this conversation right now, but mod6's graph is most likely correct, because all it does is links vpatches to vpatches by their shared hashes

mircea_popescu: "i ended up with a woman in my bed i don't know." "how ?"

ben_vulpes: it's a very special haskellian snowflake that makes it so i don't have to think about that so nyah

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586531 << i don't recall the proposed tests, actually. i mulled on this for a bit, am reluctant to try any sort of implementation until i finish the sqlator which a) is probably just sunk cost fallacy rearing its head, as i've done not much there but design the schema and prep a massive ingest job and b) has now been bumped down my todo list *again* in favor of vtronic ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1587923 << i am fwiw satisfied that it's qutie mroe than this : vs aren't on btcbase because they don't fundamentally belong on btcbase, because unlike public trb "we all use this" they're private "my girl will dance the way ~i~ want her to dance and stfu". there's a much more limited set of rules re what vtrons should do ; than re what trbs should do. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: mod6 i don't get what http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1587851 is saying ? it links to a congratulatory message back in 2015 ? ☝︎

mod6: i think, he's saying, what is the benefit of V honking when it doesn't find a key in your wot that matches a seal in your seal dir, provided that you don't pull a mod6.

ben_vulpes: trinque: if all vpatches from genesis to HEAD carry a signature corresponding to a key in .wot, v presses. that signatures exist in .seals for people i don't choose to put the key for into .wot should not matter.

ben_vulpes: trinque: i don't follow either

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i don't even want to open that discussion, it's fucking obvious they're equivalent but whatevers.

mod6: i don't have time right now. i'll come back later for this.

mod6: I don't think it is reasonable to sign every thing I want to test.

trinque: yeah, I don't suppose there's a solution in posing the question.