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ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-8-2#175311 << /me very intrigued

mircea_popescu: in further lulz : the scamchain is ~300 blocks behind bitcoin. here's a summary : 478610 1 hour ago 443.02Kb ; 478609 1 hour ago 141.72Kb ; 478608 2 hours ago 291.50Kb ; 478607 2 hours ago 584.60Kb ; 478606 3 hours ago 174.71Kb ; 478605 554.37Kb ; 478604 3 hours ago 771.29Kb ; 478603 4 hours ago 355.16Kb ; 478602 4 hours ago 158.57Kb ; 478601 4 hours ago 424.27Kb

asciilifeform: 'This syntax was added to bison on bison 2.6+ so either install later bison / just delete those lines locally' 'What @OrDavidi said. Those two statements only improve the quality of parser error messaged. You can safely remove them.'

mircea_popescu: and in other random lulz from the internets, https://profs.info.uaic.ro/~vcosmin/stuff/temp/psgbd/Tema_ScorDoi_Nr6/_Chiriac_Dorin_B5_6_2_Cazacu_Vlad_X1_6_2.html

asciilifeform: ( how to make 2+ -- exercise for reader )

a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:43 asciilifeform: it is ~perfect : 1) no way for enemy to unhappen logs short of burning the bldg 2) easy to scroll through, read 3) thermal paper burns great

asciilifeform: ( 2 cords, mains & serial )

asciilifeform: it is ~perfect : 1) no way for enemy to unhappen logs short of burning the bldg 2) easy to scroll through, read 3) thermal paper burns great ☟︎

asciilifeform: also i'll note, there are 2 types of copy, the basic 'soviet' type ( where you life everything incl. dec's 'when you care enough to steal the very best' easter egg inscription ) and the kind where you actually get the ~concept~ out

asciilifeform: you can't hardwarize 2.

asciilifeform: ada is interesting because 1) all array accesses bounds checked. you CAN hardwarize this. but also 2) whole program is forced to conform to strict rules, said conformance can only be evaluated during compilation, and strictly when taken as whole

asciilifeform: ( other than by baking into fpga. which 1) introduces the 'which fpga, again' problem 2) if you have fpga, big enough for sparc, you can make up a SANE arch to go in it

asciilifeform: summary : asciilifeform is looking for a 1) 32 ( or greater ) bitness cpu 2) that is able to execute code WHOLLY from external bus ( a la 1980s ), incl from rom 3) not ARM 4) in production

asciilifeform: for clarity : asciilifeform ain't inluvv with superH. but he ~does~ search for a cpu where 1) respectable (say, even trb-capable) horse 2) no internal flash rom 3) not ARM

mircea_popescu: and in other "omfg death by cuteness", i captured a tiny baby gecko, 2 gram's worth. he's adorbs.

mircea_popescu: so it's like 2.1x space 1.45x time or such.

ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-8-2#174580 << zany and interesting; we'll have more to say by next report absolutely

mircea_popescu: 2.3% "private", for a definition of "private" that essentially reduces to walmart. if it were properly private fred meyer would just be the stamp on the local scrip.

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5) = 0.023474178403755867

mircea_popescu: !~calc 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5)

mircea_popescu: in other lulz, here's the top employers for pierce country (wa) : jblm, 66k ; public schools, 13.5k ; obamacare etc 7k ; the state of washington 6.5k, the franciscan health system (about as franciscan as the ny jewish stuff) : 5.5k ; the county of pierce : 3k ; the state-owned universities : 2.5k ; fred meyer stores : 2.5k.

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691587 << ty for writing this up danielpbarron. I'll surely be leveraging this in round 2 of my general Gentoo quest even ☝︎

mod6: I learned german first, and that took me about 6mos to a year when i was 11 or 12. then when i was ~18 i learned spanish in like... well pretty quick, 2-3 mos. its easy.

asciilifeform: aahahalol, 2 settings on the dial nao, ' mircea_popescu ' and ' stupidity '

BingoBoingo: "State-owned companies are reasonably common. Average income is 38,599 Coils, and evenly distributed, with the richest citizens earning only 3.2 times as much as the poorest." << OMG mircea_popescu Your wealth gap is closing!!!

asciilifeform: in a boobytrapped system - potentially 2, 3, infinity keys

jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2481.32, vol: 17722.93282193 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2473.2, vol: 32790.56208539 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2539.90052, vol: 13445.00230000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2482.0, vol: 9666.58462334 | Volume-weighted last average: 2488.49050666

deedbot: BingoBoingo rated whaack 2 << Qntra contributor

BingoBoingo: !!rate whaack 2 Qntra contributor

jhvh1: shinohai: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2493.47, vol: 19780.09434317 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2488.0, vol: 41197.86809519 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2539.67704, vol: 14837.08570000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2486.2, vol: 10523.0180241 | Volume-weighted last average: 2497.91442585

BingoBoingo: "The Tesla-landian economy, worth 231 billion Coils a year, is led by the Cheese Exports industry, with major contributions from Book Publishing, Arms Manufacturing, and Retail. State-owned companies are reasonably common. Average income is 38,599 Coils, and evenly distributed, with the richest citizens earning only 3.2 times as much as the poorest." << Oh my, what is this hippy stuff?

BingoBoingo: Chains far longer than 2 transactions

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, about half of them do max 2, about a third of the remainder max 3, and i think ther'es a max 8 also in there.

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: .4 + .6 * .2 = 0.52

mircea_popescu: !~calc .4 + .6 * .2

mircea_popescu: gotta love usg pinoy tards. PLAYBOOK : 1. make bullshit nobody cares about ; 2. pretend bullshit you made is important ; 3. get tired and give up, pretending that this is meaningful now.

mircea_popescu: ing widely available ( see eg http://trilema.com/2017/on-trisection-a-humble-contribution/#footnote_2_73491 ), but it can't possibly end there. and in all fairness, the uci as properly understood (see eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688642 ; http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687638 and so on) is definitely just this ia thing, one layer above bulldozer per se). ☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 16:48 asciilifeform: they wanna say 妓 -- let'em be stuck saying 32 bytes (16x16 bit matrix, more than enough for any hierohorror) rather than 2 bytes !!!

phf: mircea_popescu: you missed asciilifeform's "page 2: how to get a girl from irc chat?"

asciilifeform: pg. 2 : 'как поиметь девочку из чата?'

mircea_popescu: in town. much like, of course, representative democracy belongs to the simple and them alone ( http://trilema.com/2015/why-representative-democracy-doesnt-work-and-doesnt-make-sense/#selection-79.0-85.2 ).

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: now only own 2 hands ?!

asciilifeform: i did, but must be doing it wrong, they only offer a) the pcb 2) chip, but for >= price the pcb sells at.

jhvh1: asciilifeform: 2013 New York divorce torture plot - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_New_York_divorce_torture_plot>; U.S. Accuses 2 Rabbis of Kidnapping Husbands for a Fee - The ...: <http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/11/nyregion/rabbis-accused-in-kidnapping-plot-to-force-men-to-grant-divorces.html%3Fmcubz%3D2>; Rabbis Accused in Kidnap, Torture Plot to Gain Divorces - Newser: (1 more message)

asciilifeform: as i see it the 2 are disjoint

a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 15:16 mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, who wants to wire 2.5k for me ?

asciilifeform: describe a model of computation that is 1) usefully complete -- can carry out actual work 2) is substantially non-brittle - i.e. flipping 20% of the bits results in something that is only, say, 20% away from, but still recognizable as the original performer, rather than liquishit

asciilifeform: 2 * maxint

mircea_popescu: whether server A im talking to i'm talking so it adds 2 and 2 for me, or gives me a new friend, or shoots a missile, is not a part of design consideration.

asciilifeform: this'd require at least 2 S to exist, lol

asciilifeform: merely sold 2-3 generations behind state of the art.

a111: 2 results for "hagana", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=hagana

jurov: systemd on boot doing GET requests there in 3..2..1

deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of ave1 from 1 to 2 << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686605

mircea_popescu: !!rate ave1 2 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686605 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: possibly the #1 and #2 spots of dumb.

mircea_popescu: 2) get a proper power supply. this means -- that the power line should feed a battery, not your machine. you can measure leakage if you will, so this can be tweaked by hand to an arbitrary level.

a111: 2 results for "enumeration of badness", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=enumeration%20of%20badness

asciilifeform: 1 and 2 are interchangeable for all purposes afaik

asciilifeform: 2 is NOT censored edition, it is more or less same as 1.

asciilifeform: 2) schneier 'applied crypto' 2nd ed , 1996 : red cover

shinohai: Ah rite, you guys are 2 hours behind me ... (Stupid DST)

jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2225.0, vol: 27624.25877228 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2168.0, vol: 9172.94514 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2187.2, vol: 40989.87519083 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2234.845746, vol: 14348.85940000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2183.258, vol: 13560.2812637 | Volume-weighted last average: 2201.37537846

a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 17:39 asciilifeform: meanwhile #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685349 , with less extraneous load >>>> 202m2.191s .

a111: Logged on 2017-04-14 00:41 asciilifeform: in classical su rug like this is 1) on floor 2) on wall (usually next to bed)

mircea_popescu: whole fucking pantsuit ideology being an endless repeat of the ridiculous cycle of 1. saint pantsuit told us everyone loves raymond ; 2. apparently nobody can stand raymond ; 3. wut do ? which you know, "gotta educate teh public abou raymond" etc.

a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 13:29 asciilifeform: oh, almost forgot, trial #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685031 >>>> 298m12.551s

asciilifeform: meanwhile #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685349 , with less extraneous load >>>> 202m2.191s . ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: oh, almost forgot, trial #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685031 >>>> 298m12.551s ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-07-16 20:08 asciilifeform: 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4870HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz' (Crapple MBP) : 155m57.246s

a111: Logged on 2017-07-16 20:07 asciilifeform: 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz' : 153m7.214s

mod6: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz

asciilifeform: ( witness the figures for 2.5 vs 2.7 GHz intels )

a111: Logged on 2017-07-16 20:08 asciilifeform: 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4870HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz' (Crapple MBP) : 155m57.246s

asciilifeform: aaaand, literally <2min later, we have trial #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685030 >>> 155m54.188s ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-07-16 20:07 asciilifeform: 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz' : 153m7.214s

asciilifeform: trial #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685029 >>>>> 153m13.636s ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 13:00 asciilifeform: btw if you're actually doing something that doesn't need constanttime, you can simply put the obvious check-for-zero in the karatsuba and get 2-9000x boost for mul.

asciilifeform: 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4870HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz' (Crapple MBP) : 155m57.246s ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz' : 153m7.214s ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: i thought maybe it is the case that it takes a 2 or 3 byte item which starts with valid ascii and tries to interpret it as some sort of unicode bs and in the process ends up applying a transform to the text somehow. but unless we have the actual magic string, we're not finding this.

mod6: I'll check into wtf is going on. I'm running gnat on 4.9.2 on deb.

mircea_popescu: hey, me 2!

mircea_popescu: rted to carry multiple meanings. FILIP B is still how you say philip the 2nd in greek to this day, because B is also 2. it means a number of things, and if you didn't know "set" is the english word with the largest number of meanings.

a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 14:24 asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 1.326 + log2(N)/2 + (log2(N) - 1.443)*N gives bitlength of N! to 1% or so.

mod6: one thing, that i never really thought about is going the other direction; 1 * 2 * 3 ...

asciilifeform: they wanna say 妓 -- let'em be stuck saying 32 bytes (16x16 bit matrix, more than enough for any hierohorror) rather than 2 bytes !!! ☟︎

mod6: 1.326 + log(65536)/2*log(2) + (log(65536)/log(2) - 1.443)*65536 << during this exercise, i started, very quickly to see this expansion pattern. was thinking there must be some square law to predict the probable size of the outcome.

asciilifeform: ;;calc 1.326 + log(65536)/2*log(2) + (log(65536)/log(2) - 1.443)*65536

asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 1.326 + log2(N)/2 + (log2(N) - 1.443)*N gives bitlength of N! to 1% or so. ☟︎

asciilifeform: btw if you're actually doing something that doesn't need constanttime, you can simply put the obvious check-for-zero in the karatsuba and get 2-9000x boost for mul. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: !W (format nil "~6,2F" (factorial (^ 1024 2)))

mircea_popescu: !W (format nil "~6,2F" (factorial 1024**2))

mod6: lol, had to use 2**64 words with FZ(196)

erlehmann: real quality software that tries to call getpid(2) >70000 times in <5 seconds

mod6: for instance, 2**8:

mod6: i've tried using like 2**8, and 2**16 too iirc.

asciilifeform: heat engine - has 2 ends