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phf: but i don't think you're even talking about cracking open the covers? so what does the knowing of these "exceptionally well" things entail?
phf: in db sucks threads you necessarily talk about pain points. i don't think ~anybody~ here disputes that postgresql is a solid piece of engineering
trinque: I don't criticize that he used it; I do all the time for lack of alternative which has the properties I want
phf: ok, i guess we both know what the problem is. my solution is "study db related algorithms until you know enough to write a db", your solution, unless i misunderstand, seems to be "use an existing database a lot". i don't understand how learning, say, postgresql will get you from not knowing anything about db internal design to writing your own ☟︎
phf: but i don't think that working with a black box of rdbms will
phf: the "glue" point is a strawman, because you don't know how i write my code. as far as problem/solution though
asciilifeform: Framedragger: yes, it is weak! but no, i don't have a five-second fix
asciilifeform: i don't actually see it as resolved, even today.
asciilifeform: i don't buy this 'was always a trotskyist, from baby' thing. not everyone is born in his particular mental dead end.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there is any such thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 14:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, the more i think about it the more i'm convinced the ONLY "fingerprint" for rsa key may be... the modulus. 4096 bits and fuck you, if you can't take 32 chars you don't belong here.
mircea_popescu: i don't know how you can audit a xilinx chip. but if you did, asciilifeform would definitely be interested in hearing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, the more i think about it the more i'm convinced the ONLY "fingerprint" for rsa key may be... the modulus. 4096 bits and fuck you, if you can't take 32 chars you don't belong here. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: for a moment there it read as "i don't like $newguy, he might do something stupid." which is silly, let him do the stupid first, not like him after. wtf preemptive dislike.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: siphnos url is http://siphnos.mkj.lt/phuctor-stats/ - i don't think 'canonical' can be decided until a sane caching strategy is decided, tho.
Framedragger: i don't think rsa gives all, just 'first 10' or sth
Framedragger: i don't personally think it's a completely wasted effort if any backdoors in parameters are opened up to all, vs. just the owners.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: tbh i don't actually give enough of a shit to try to cut apart the ball of yarn in shitlang -- what part stolen, when, from which logs ( our discussion of block/tx storage has been running for ages )
Framedragger: (also, my mp-emulator is saying "why do you spend energy challenging these and not challenging the empire", and my response is that i don't give the privilege to the empire of even *challenging* their shit; they're not worth it imho. this all just to say that take it easy)
mircea_popescu: if it "obeys the law" i pointedly don't want it, and FOR THAT REASON.
Framedragger: i wonder how you'd categorise the 'affect heuristic' as kahneman et al. call it.; i.e., when you make decision with at least partial influence of current emotion. it's very *fast* (thereby falls under kahneman's type 1). ridiculous scenario where it's useful: i'm chased by tiger, see two paths in woods, one has sign 'DANGER' in red, i don't have time to even parse word without making decision,
asciilifeform: i don't presently see them as cleanly cuttable apart
Framedragger: (just so i don't feel like just throwing random verbiage at you, what i mean is something like `CREATE TRIGGER setup_send_update AFTER INSERT OR UPDATE ON phuctor FOR EACH ROW EXECUTE PROCEDURE send_update);` - it wouldn't be hard to try.)
Framedragger: now, complexity management-wise.. maybe; having same person manage both boxes may not be best idea (and the alternative has its own advantages). but the current "phuctor is down, i don't know why, it's a black box" isn't the greatest example of current setup, either. (this may be a red herring, i'm not sure)
mircea_popescu: no i don't mean that. i just mean, yes in principl;e doing something with the plebs is not a bad idea ; but the exact what and wherefore coulo use more conteplation.
asciilifeform: and i certainly don't want html in my db wtf
asciilifeform: trinque: i don't like state
Framedragger: obtw which postgres version on phuctor asciilifeform? those two features not available in old versions. i don't remember which ver is in debian stable
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine anyone can actually intuit what i in fact did.
Framedragger: but actually, i haven't run mysqldump in forever and not 100% certain about docs, so i don't know
Framedragger: i don't know what that is
Framedragger: (i don't know about that "db" file, tho, i mean, that one's binary)
Framedragger: i don't know how it would encode it, but in general, yes. more like, escape nonprintable chars with "\0" i guess
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: trump :: 1. To have superior power over.2. To surpass or outdo.3. When a person says "trump," you are required to do whatever you just claimed you would do, no matter how exaggerated it was. If you don't do it, you get a [spartan kick] to the chest. [ex:] 1. Bob: The president's word trumps yours, Joe, you homeless piece of shit. When he says something it must be done.2. Joe: Man, I'll trump your ass (5 more messages)
mircea_popescu: trinque i certainly don't see anything wrong with teaching the stupid how to be even stupider until the time they're actually ready to hands and knees.
CompanionCube: I don't think that's the idea of UBI
ben_vulpes: "but then from a justice perspective it's just inherently gender inequitable, so i don't know! i just don't know."
mircea_popescu: no i don't. i want... omfg 4th time.. THE WHOLE TABLE
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever saw anyone pay for a brit.
mircea_popescu: eh, i'm sure they don't imagine the actual blockchain may get lost.
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, i don't see where i would set 'legacy' mode in my bios
danielpbarron: i don't think it's exotic. hp xw9400 workstation
danielpbarron: i don't have a copy. maybe freenode dropped a line idk
phf: doesn't have to contain rather. i'm sure they don't scrape it diligently enough.
asciilifeform: i don't actually know of a sane way to do this job. which is why i have not ever attempted to do it.
Framedragger: so, if tmsr were to have its own archiver, i don't think archive.is' approach is the way to go, even though it is (arguably, maybe) the most 'reliable' / 'true' (actual js rendering in browser). exposing user to JS defeats half its purpose. imho.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 14:32 Framedragger: that's a great stance of course, but i do believe that this disqualifies all but, i don't know, to speculate, "30" publications SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME
mircea_popescu: i don't find it pays for me.
Framedragger: i don't disagree there, of course.
Framedragger: that's a great stance of course, but i do believe that this disqualifies all but, i don't know, to speculate, "30" publications SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME ☟︎
Framedragger: diana_coman: i don't believe that phuctor is *that* important, yes.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i don't see how this is enabling. by that metric, *everything* is enabling. someone used phuctor to hack into box, phuctor enabled them?
Framedragger: well, why don't i (unless someone else already planned to do it first?) write to those folks on that ML, informing of phuctor, to see their response? maybe futile at this point and useless, but at least a more constructive reaction.
mircea_popescu: i somehow don't believe that thing actually works as long term archiving anymore.
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's anything specifically.
trinque: really mircea_popescu already did. "I lost a man using Debian machines today." not only do you know something about Debian, you know something about where he was. maybe not as much as you'd like, but you have some coordinates, and more importantly, if you don't suck, *you* aren't dead
mircea_popescu: we don't put pogos that way. if you recall, i wasn't for it then, either.
mircea_popescu: but in practical terms, i don't check all the living space all the time. i check random spots at random times and if they're dirty somebody sleeps in a zebra costume. this method keeps the place well clean, and it's how management works. hence the discussion of genovese merchants etc.
phf: we were comming from the direction of debian on 10 cds though, so restating my original point: i think bootstrapping can be solved with counterparty as an alternative to fits in head, i.e. i don't mind an approach where in order to bootstrap i get a binary from l1, that i use as a rich subtrate from which i can bootstrap.
phf: i don't ~refuse~ it, i'm saying that differential approach is ~required~ because there's a problem. otherwise there'd be no need for an approach. i don't think it matters that approach is already presant for other purposes
mircea_popescu: i can judge whether an egg is rotten or not without being a hen myself. i can tell which kids aren't worth bothering with though i'm no mother "and i don't understand them like she does" etcetera.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this is not in reference to compilation. it's in reference to user space. i don't expect there's a magical function f, but that there's a plurality of f1..fi...fn, which can all be linear in principle.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone takes carbon dating seriously. outside of the you know, "ring" so to speak. it's a trade secret of the substance and nature of wrestling storylines.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 12:28 mircea_popescu: phf the main objection to your quiet style is that now i can't discern whether you a) understood the arguments and are thinking about it ; b) simply didn't understand the arguments or c) understood what was said but didn't judge it any kind of argument. express yourself, don't repress yourself!
trinque: I don't expect that there would for example be a diversity of republican emacs builds
mircea_popescu: phf the main objection to your quiet style is that now i can't discern whether you a) understood the arguments and are thinking about it ; b) simply didn't understand the arguments or c) understood what was said but didn't judge it any kind of argument. express yourself, don't repress yourself! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: eh, i don't expect worldwide usage of otp ticker exceeds 1mbps.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how it'll seriously run on anything besides a c machine for the mid term.
mircea_popescu: i don't see they are distinct.
mircea_popescu: but i don't have enough elements piled up to say what elements i need to say whether this is so or not.
phf: if i have an open ssh port on my machine that i don't know about, then the attack can happen any time in between "rotor3" released "i decide to install rotor3""
mircea_popescu: either i get to use my tool frist, in which case i can perceive a change ; or else i don't get to use my tool first, in which case -- prediction is necessary.
mircea_popescu: yes, i might. but i don't ~have to~ already be using it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno who was proposing we don't.
phf: i don't think it's a problem for an arbitrary chain. i was more thinking lizard hitler patches compiler to specifically fuck with rotor3 chain
mircea_popescu: i don't have full control over turbulent flow, nevertheless fly unmolested. and so following.
mircea_popescu: phf this is elementarily false. i don't have full control over eg female biology, enjoy full control over my slavegirls.
phf: mircea_popescu: i think nature of bootstrapping problem is that you have to choose a bedrock that you can affect, and that bedrock falls under counterparty problem. if your bedrock is hardware, then it's foundries that you trust. if your bedrock is a "a unix" then you need to trust a large binary blob. yes you can construct a rube goldberg that gives you unix from bedrock without having trust, but we don't have anything like that
mircea_popescu: i seriously don't see the problem with "i trust this pared down version of tcc - it builds a very slow blob but it does build it - and these tools which i read myself"
a111: Logged on 2013-07-08 13:30 mircea_popescu: just like i showed the SDRs as the exact equivalent, and people ignored it because well... they never had one so it don't exist.
danielpbarron: might have been a trilema article, i don't recall exactly
danielpbarron: plus all karaoke djs tend to be a little weird in a way particular to that profession; i don't care to become like that
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ^ (but i don't have a point to prove, just that i didn't see much to blame there, however i could just be my usual naive)
Framedragger: "and have my esteemed pedigree tree"? isn't part of his (by now, tired, yes) point to the effect of the exact opposite? ("trust your biology, folklore, etc., they're better than experts telling you things"; "i won't give advice on $currency because i don't hold positions in $currency hence not exposed to the risk", so on)
mircea_popescu: now you know why i don't tend to read him.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: other observation re taleb -- i find his works quintessentially 'american', in the most damning sense of the word -- they are exactly 'salvation through method' - 'do-s and dont-s', 'don't use black-scholes', 'do worship at my feet, and have my esteemed pedigree tree, and sit on the sunny shores of the levant, and You Too Could Be A God Like Me' etc.
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care re "arrogance" or whatever other emotional manipulation in the text. i can read the barely literate productions of poorly washed 5th century jews figuring themselves "god". what's taleb gonna do to max my dosimeter.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1635912 << i don't personally find taleb objectionable. this position my be significantly bolstered by my disinclination to actually read him. anyway -- i suspect it might be a case of anaphylaxis. you can't stand specific antigens which he expresses mostly to protect himself from the idiot soup he bathes in, the twitter world etc. ☝︎
saifedean: and I'm happy to send you the work in progress first draft, but don't want to publish online yet
saifedean: it's a good answer when you consider that I have the bullshit mainstream credentials most cattle imagine would qualify one to opine on this topic, and that I did not mention that to answer your question because I know cattle credentials don't mean shit.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 03:13 phf: as far i understand they are all essentially the same, in that they don't actually serve food.
phf: as far i understand they are all essentially the same, in that they don't actually serve food. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the problem is this : i/we don't deem $nobody capable of independent thought.
trinque: ftr I don't see a problem with jurov being on sabbatical if he returns
mircea_popescu: it just shocked me, i have nfi how pilots don't kill to drive it, but the thing flows like an audi.
mircea_popescu had nfi idea what racism is ; and imagined it's mostly pretended. not so. i HATE argentines, fundamentally, and the only reason there's not 40 mn corpses in limed pits right now is that i don't have the pits.
mircea_popescu: can't really have a fucking code of conduct. beyond "don't be offensively stupid" i can'\t imagine. he might even be gay or not wear a tie!
Framedragger: especially their leader, this ridiculous fat turd who nevertheless is featured in various tv shitshows ('to popularise history', you know) -- he's just plain jelly as fuck, (quote) "i don't even know this schmuck, some kind of driver (sic; literal), i would have great doubts as to the document's authenticity [meanwhile confirmed by germany archivists etc etc etc]", so on and so forth, in a complete caricature-like jelly manner.
phf: ah, i only have 2nd edition (1996). i agree though they went downhill from there. i don't think even armstrong's next book is particularly good
trinque: nah, I don't write the stuff. just was subjected to some fat idiot prattling on about rust one night