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mircea_popescu: in particular phf what'd be the name for "opinions and actions based on "i don't see anything wroing with it"" ? still rationalist ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:00 phf: but yes i still think that you're a rationalist, without quotes. i don't think you would object to it, i mean, if you go by definition (opinions and actions based on reason and knowledge) rather than "rationalwiki" "rationalist".
mircea_popescu: i don't think that really even happened. i mean... WHAT PROOF DO WE HAVE
asciilifeform: 01:28 < fenn> i don't know how to do that and not interested in learning right now
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 12:57 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704716 << i don't think it matters which faction of ultra rationalist posthumanists you belong to. either way the nature of your misunderstanding of tmsr take certain predictable shape, and so are your interests, etc. nobody thinks that you literally suck yudkowsky's cock, but personally i don't even care.
kanzure: no i don't have an answer, i just have peripheral knowledge of this type of attack, not specific masks to go attack RNGs
asciilifeform: i don't recall him ever going from micrograph to fpga bitstream format
asciilifeform: trinque: i don't disagree
kanzure: that's not something 've been working on. so i'm not sure it merits surprise that i don't have one?
phf: but yes i still think that you're a rationalist, without quotes. i don't think you would object to it, i mean, if you go by definition (opinions and actions based on reason and knowledge) rather than "rationalwiki" "rationalist". ☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704716 << i don't think it matters which faction of ultra rationalist posthumanists you belong to. either way the nature of your misunderstanding of tmsr take certain predictable shape, and so are your interests, etc. nobody thinks that you literally suck yudkowsky's cock, but personally i don't even care. ☝︎☟︎
kanzure: i don't mean the log i just mean your goals and behavior
mircea_popescu: i used the term metaphorically. the convo sounds like noise to you because you don't accept/have the priors. which priors he'd propose are a different authority structure.
mircea_popescu: i don't even claim to be particularly disciplined.
kanzure: yeah i don't think existing lungs would be a good thing to subject to that. i haven't given it much thought.
asciilifeform: 18:29 < kanzure> yeah i don't know anymore
asciilifeform: nobody's ever conceived of a finesse around this, and i don't expect that anyone will.
kanzure: i think the most mature construction was one that was solely about utxo set and/or blockchain content, not rule validation (besides: they could be running a fake client that solely does these rule validation protocols or whatever, and then they don't actually run a node in the end)
asciilifeform: what they 'coercing me into saying things that i don't believe' and why.
kanzure: no i mean coercing me into saying things that i don't believe
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704181 << i'm not much of an engineer ; i don't even own any ikea desk converted into an open thermo-thingee. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not completely useless, i don't think.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't read pdfs, so put it in a pastebin ?
kanzure: i don't really care if it's "justified" by you, i care about correctly understanding
phf: i don't think so, this is more like figuring out that something's broken in a car by the sounds that the engine is making. doesn't mean that the car's not working anymore. it seems reasonable though that causes and purposes would be the response, since that kind of eliadism is a natural counterpoint to above... that's just my impressions though
kanzure: "I don't want anything, it's a factual observation." <-- this person is lying. he was communicating for a reason.
kanzure: is swinging a hammer a form of effort here? i don't know man.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
kanzure: well i don't really know if memory has an actual size (that concept might be bullshit)-- what about retention, is that the same thing as size
kanzure: i don't think he's written about it
mircea_popescu: kanzure the model whereby you "attract funding" for "your idea" is fundamentally broken. i don't mean a little broken, i mean fundamentally broken -- it makes it impossible to actually have an idea, which is why your "attempt to find the most controversial conceivable notion" ended up with "what bit of fashionable nonsense could i waste my life with in the optimisitc but ultimately baseless hope it'll be worthy my or anyone's
kanzure: mircea_popescu: correct. i've looked at it just now but i don't see how it changes anything. shouldn't you prefer people to be hard workers, even if they can't own property?
mircea_popescu: i take it you don't know you never read http://trilema.com/2016/i-am-firmly-against-universal-franchise/ ? and don't know you should have read it ? and so on ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 16:16 asciilifeform: shinohai: 'What's the latest on Mircea? I've not heard about him in a while.' 'I think his followers actually kind of excommunicated him after he lost their bitcoins. I don't pay much attention to them though.' << didjaknow !
kanzure: i don't know any hereditary magic tricks to eliminate headaches but that should be doable.
asciilifeform: shinohai: 'What's the latest on Mircea? I've not heard about him in a while.' 'I think his followers actually kind of excommunicated him after he lost their bitcoins. I don't pay much attention to them though.' << didjaknow ! ☟︎
danielpbarron: i don't wanna spoil the surprise just yet. let's see if she shows up
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean a little colder. 17 vs 23 celsius, that's almost 10 f
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-27#1703488 << i don't expect they understand anything past you know, "words are what you put in the advertising pizza". ☝︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i don't recall this wonder. << me either. looking...
mircea_popescu: i don't recall this wonder.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702832 <- aha; trouble is that people are scared of the "cost" and like any scare it is way bigger than the actual real thing; as previously mentioned I really don't see this "I can hold bitcoin without knowing /getting dirty with it" thing ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone cut apart one such ledger nano, so dunno
whaack: I just don't see how footnote 2 mentions the point of the btc difficulty decreasing while the miners are away from the main chain, even if it does allude to it by showing that holding the btc miner for an extended period of time doesn't help (b.c. of the fact that while the miners are away from the main chain their difficulty is decreasing)
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:04 spyked: loaded (because I don't use this day-to-day), I must consult these items in great detail. my guess here is that once I have spent all the time to learn, the "framework" becomes useless, because the mental framework is in place.
mircea_popescu: (no, i don't just mean reddit pick-up artistry. anglican church same exact thing.)
mircea_popescu: i don't need to impress him.
mircea_popescu: because why, because i gotta spend money i don't have on suits i can't afford to impress r0nin- ?
mircea_popescu: i don't care how. this isn't explainy hour. the cooperation of the fucker-upper is neither sought nor required.
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care. it's a simple "come see whether you are good enough to seep people into your company or lose all your brain power to our better model".
valentinbuza: 'time to learn, the "framework" becomes useless, because the mental framework is in place.' << my guess is not, but I don't think we have a conclusion on this with a sample of 2 points
spyked: loaded (because I don't use this day-to-day), I must consult these items in great detail. my guess here is that once I have spent all the time to learn, the "framework" becomes useless, because the mental framework is in place. ☟︎
valentinbuza: i don't find the word 'standard' in the description or in the spec. it's not a standard and should not be seen as one
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 22:31 asciilifeform: i don't much like the phrase 'trusted nodes', when you connect to trb node, you get plaintext tcp, and 0 guarantees re who or what you're actually talking to.
mod6: I don't think these belong permanently in the SoBA each month. It would be probably a good idea for individuals who own these nodes to sign their Node IP and send that to the btc-dev mailing list. However, I seem to recall some resistance to that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701627 << problem is poverty of mind, not of system. "i don't want to look at large hex strings, they intimidatre me". same exact shit-for-brains that gave us pgp "fingerprints". ☝︎
asciilifeform: i don't much like the phrase 'trusted nodes', when you connect to trb node, you get plaintext tcp, and 0 guarantees re who or what you're actually talking to. ☟︎
spyked: this is gonna be fun. asciilifeform, I haven't looked into hw since 2010, so there might be stupid questions coming your way once I start playing with this. btw, I don't mind getting my hands dirty with soldering, I just have very rudimentary tools for now.
asciilifeform: i last leeched the xilinx hog in 2011 and don't intend to ever update.
spyked: so from ^ the "ultra"er models don't work with the open source toolchain? I was looking at one of the breakout boards earlier
a111: Logged on 2017-08-19 23:57 phf: fwiw, if the goal is to put an existing lisp machine onto an fpga, then i don't think macivory is a particularly good target. the goal would be to run Genera, which is severely lacking sources for critical components.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, her solution is to not leave the house ?
phf: fwiw, if the goal is to put an existing lisp machine onto an fpga, then i don't think macivory is a particularly good target. the goal would be to run Genera, which is severely lacking sources for critical components. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: !~later tell r0nin- I don't talk privates with stangers
spyked: yeah, but must still be of some use though. I don't know if there's even a genuine Lisp machine in ro
mircea_popescu: software is the worst offender here, but hardware is also pretty bad. consider -- i don't want to buy "A fridge", i should buy standardized compressor units, and so on. why do i want "the fridge" ? there's no need to debate "whirlpool" vs "obamacare". compare discrete items.
spyked: anyway, the one and only advantage of UPB CS department is that for now it still has the resources to bring up smart people, most of which unfortunately turn into goog/fb/whatever employees. I don't think that's gonna last for long though. wish it did, but...
spyked: mircea_popescu, Poli survives on local socialist democrats. I don't know how to compare those guys to West pantsuit.
spyked: he's okay, we chatted a few times, but I don't know him very well. it's hard to judge most people in the faculty higher than by "mint rubber or not", and he's pretty hard working at least.
spyked: yeah, it was very easy to conflate "list can be described as either nil, or pair between something and a list" and "list is defined as". I could rewrite sometime if you think it's worth it; I don't think it is, I was just trying to show how reasoning about software isn't trivial even when you have a framework for that, let alone when void *p = ...;
spyked: I don't like Wordpress, so I decided to roll my own
mircea_popescu: turns out the whole hello & welcome works out a lot better when i don't have to ask "so who are you". who could have predictated.
mike_c: I don't think the market will last long enough for automated service to be worth it, but I'll turn the cranks if anyone wants me to clean out some spent keys.
mircea_popescu: (though traditionally the way "bitcoin doubler" scams work is that they pay off initially. and i don't expect this "bitcoin cash market" thing is anything else, however it may be interpreted by the retard crowd)
mircea_popescu: if i promise you a talking donkey and a cunt on your forehead in 2020, and you don't get them, this means i confiscated a talking donkey and a forehead cunt ?
mircea_popescu: i don't believe this view to be factually supported.
a111: Logged on 2014-06-01 03:06 asciilifeform: 'doctor it hurts when i do that. -- don't do that.'
ben_vulpes: Birdman: i don't see the problem: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kpaOM/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: i don't know shit about horseflesh but they were nice too
phf: what i don't get is why neither party put BOTH SIT AND COVER down, which is sort of the whole purpose of the contraption.
ben_vulpes: lol hey i don't marinade cow much in anything
mircea_popescu: "i know i've no chance with hot girls, so i'll settle for you but i don;'t want to eat the downside of fucking bags, so. sapiosexual."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i totally feel like a civ2 diplomat guy, with the sash and errythang. << Don't forget to edit rules.txt
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's put it this way, i don't miss my native alcohol.
mircea_popescu: but i also don't want to ask.
mike_c: whole build output? I don't have it anymore, but I'm about to run it again and will save it.
mod6: mike_c: I don't think it did. I set this one up like back in the spring. And I'm fairly sure it came with gcc5 and i vanquished all the bs by hand.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 03:20 mod6: for the record, i don't have that in my builds either, ignore that mike_c
mircea_popescu: i don't see it. is it also a savarin preamble ?
mircea_popescu: now, the above is an opinion you or anyone is welcome to hold, like any other opinion. i however don't hold it.
mircea_popescu: valica make yourself a pgp key if you don't have one an' register it with deedbot so i don't have to keep voicing oyu
mircea_popescu: it's mindboggling, you know ? "run openssl" "and if i don't have it ?" "download it then!" "And if i'm on a deserted island ?" "well then you can't crypto!" "sa moara ma-ta ?"
asciilifeform entertained by the 'we can talk in private' + 'i can't, i don't know you' combo
valica_: i can't. i don't know you
mircea_popescu: we can't talk privately, i don't know you.
mircea_popescu: i don't.
mod6: for the record, i don't have that in my builds either, ignore that mike_c ☟︎
mike_c: i don't want it to jinx it. not done yet. but it seems to be working much better.
phf: but i don't think that's the one he's using, if he's building with rotor.. that whole new build infrastructure seems to exist apart.
phf: trinque: possibly my thing is not pressing correctly, i don't see it here http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles/tree/