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a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 09:40 diana_coman: I just left a tcpdump running and it seems to have gotten 428k of those over 2 months
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879321 << this is pretty interesting. diana_coman if you have time plz post the trimmed dump bin ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 13:49 asciilifeform: diana_coman: interesting ; any idea re contents ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 18:50 diana_coman: will do and report back when it finishes - probably I get to see it in ~12 hours from now though
a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 16:44 mircea_popescu: diana_coman note that "binary identity" is not even necessary a premise. you can go "hey shithead, why the fuck are you linking dynamic mysql when there's been a static one for five years". or w/e.
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : achtung : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2735&cpage=1#comment-19763
trinque: diana_coman: it's saying that lilo was instructed *not* to write to sda
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 09:36 diana_coman: trinque, running the cuntoo script as root on Gentoo laptop with ./bootstrap.sh -k config/4.9.95-apu2 -d /dev/sdb where the laptop's own system is on /dev/sda and that /dev/sdb is an external drive connected via USB; all the partitioning+compilations seem to work fine but at the end the make_portage_tree script fails for lack of stuff and looking a bit higher up in the output I get this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mbkqu/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-12-07 23:01 mircea_popescu: diana_coman ^ lemme know if issues.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ^ lemme know if issues. ☟︎
phf: diana_coman: my great-grandparents were all moved into the city by the time i was a grownup, they could only recall the olden days, not really demonstrate them
phf: diana_coman: heh, the chicken in a fur hat story was passed on in my family also
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i dun keep chickens but imagine it'd work great, lol
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funniy enuff i loaded up on those in ro
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as such -- no; but quality quite variable
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funnily enuff i have 0prob getting that here
phf: diana_coman: i've updated all the available sigs
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman ! will roll these into ch14.
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman !
asciilifeform: afaik there are currently 3 working ( i.e. with keccak format ) vtrons , v.py ( as patched by phf ) , v.pl ( patched by diana_coman ) and esthlos
lobbes: diana_coman, bvt: this was indeed a newer adacore (from May 2018) https://www.adacore.com/download. I'm going to look into the tempfile thread alf mentioned. may very well be the same issue
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 20:52 lobbes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sV2GA/?raw=true << diana_coman, asciilifeform, or other users of vk.pl, have you encountered this barf before? Trying to test my installation of diana_coman's v setup by pressing eucrypt from http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/
lobbes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sV2GA/?raw=true << diana_coman, asciilifeform, or other users of vk.pl, have you encountered this barf before? Trying to test my installation of diana_coman's v setup by pressing eucrypt from http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/ ☟︎
asciilifeform: lobbes: asciilifeform currently using diana_coman's vtron , worx a+++
lobbes: this also gives me another reason to take diana_coman's V setup for a spin (http://ossasepia.com/2018/11/13/v-with-vtools-keccak-hashes-and-its-own-tree/)
asciilifeform: ( 'swallowing' is not mutually exclusive, necessarily, with supplying patches upstream to orig -- diana_coman , for instance, 'swallowed' ada-udp , but did also post patches for my tree, a+++ )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877916 << to date we've had both types of regrind ( e.g. diana_coman reground 'mpi' into 1 genesis, for use in smg ; ffa on other hand had a 'history-preserving' regrind , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2743 ; and iirc mod6 is baking a 'history' regrind for trb ; diana_coman had 'history' regrind for eucrypt; and possibly i missed somebody in this list ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 18:50 diana_coman: in other possible interesting things: I got invited to give a talk to students at local uni (Reading, UK) on "bitcoin and blockchain"; personally I'm not all that keen on it but given the recent ideas regarding reach out and all that, I am at least considering this; any input on this is welcome
asciilifeform: diana_coman presently uses, and BingoBoingo , and a few other folx, worx great
asciilifeform: diana_coman: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2051&cpage=1#comment-19756 and thx !
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman ! i will sew it into ch14.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 19:21 diana_coman: asciilifeform, and the loc is not the whole story either; I'd much rather read *your* 1000 loc than Koch's 100 loc
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 19:30 diana_coman: yes, feed it one, whether cascading or not; the point is: what is the meaning of overflow in exactly for a shift op?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is a+++ good, it is exactly how it is meant to be read
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma also note, _O_I is used strictly in fz_mod : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch13/fz_divis__adb.htm#83_14 ; prolly oughta be inlined ~there~ and abolished as a global (even internally) function.
asciilifeform: i'ma add commentary/warnings when diana_coman et al point out good additional places where; but no one should live with expectation that ~all~ possible ways to break ffa by monkeying with internals, will be listed
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma absolutely add it to comment and discuss in ch14 mail bag.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: how would a shift by 2 provide overflow of 8 ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to link to line ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: btw you may find it entertaining that i found several vers of the carry & borrow eqns in my orig notes -- including yours. but for some reason i originally rejected that variant because it needed 2 accesses to the result D . but i neglected to write down why, possibly was simple brain fluke.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: nitpicks / spiffy karnaugh simplifications / etc. welcome as always.
asciilifeform: why ty diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 10:16 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875644 -> so wanting to be a lord while at the same time needing someone to use a whip on you already?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lol, maybe he wants to be vassal
asciilifeform: diana_coman: when i went , all the good profs were already grey and weary, so not particularly surprising, i expect they died
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funnily enuff we also had here '1 lang/week' curriculum. tho i did learn that many yrs ago it was abolished at asciilifeform's sad old uni, in favour of iphonism etc
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funnily enuff, i also pascal in school
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman did time in heavy industry tho, possibly less allergic to ada flavour as result
asciilifeform: diana_coman's stomach does seem to be stronger than most folxs'
mircea_popescu: diana_coman neither do i, which makes me suspicious!\
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: could, for example, use diana_coman's. or a modified permissive ffa. or even the thing that came with gnat. but in any case would be 'sapper errs once' component, gotta be bug-free
asciilifeform: diana_coman: correct, theoretically may be movable ( tho as i recall, you currently have 1 disk, and if you're planning on filling the other disk holes -- and disks are available -- may as well install clean )
asciilifeform: diana_coman, trinque : it isn't clear to me that 'move existing gentoo to cuntoo' without reformat of hdd is worth attempting -- non-musltronic dyn-linked sad gentoo bins will all barf once the pertinent libs are removed ( and they dun belong, imho, on a cuntoo box )
trinque: diana_coman: not necessarily, but I'd want to write you a guide before encouraging you to attempt (or have you write a guide using a machine locally)
trinque: diana_coman: it produces the genesis.vpatch that represents the state of the bootstrapped system. porting an existing gentoo over has additional complications. in theory you could yes, introduce what's in /cuntoo/ to an existing machine, but I think this deserves its own guide.
phf: borrow expr, ah i see what happened you renamed it to .kv from diana_coman's original
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun seem like you have it on your www ? it's pretty simple to weld on
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there is no reason to rush through the material, eat it at own pace
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you could say that i cheated tho, lessee if actually worx
asciilifeform: btw diana_coman et al : comments on asciilifeform's www fixed
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al ^
spyked: hey diana_coman, ty for testing! yeah, it's a bit slow because it grabs the feeds serially, I'll have to fix that.
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al ^
a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 23:49 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma put your patch into the 'official' sequence, rather than simply sewing it into ch13, i'd like to explicitly honour the work.
asciilifeform: somewhat surprisingly, diana_coman's 5-op (vs old 6-op) subtraction carry, has 0 measurable effect on the benchmarks in 12b . i still find it aesthetically pleasing tho and would like to use it, rather than old.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. ch13 will sit on top of diana_coman's patch, and the latter will be mirrored. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma put your patch into the 'official' sequence, rather than simply sewing it into ch13, i'd like to explicitly honour the work. ☟︎
asciilifeform: summary : diana_coman was too modest to admit, but did find a 1 cycle shorter form, i'ma put it in.
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman !
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al: http://ossasepia.com/2018/11/24/proposed-change-to-w_borrow-ffa/comment-page-1/#comment-4500
asciilifeform: oh hey did diana_coman find a karnaugh-shorter overflowtron
asciilifeform eats diana_coman's piece...
phf: diana_coman: added the sigs, and the new vpatch
mircea_popescu: do you see any merit in dedicated ports for instance ? or just maintain the necessary files on something like diana_coman 's code shelf ?
phf: diana_coman: i've updated eucrypt, smg-comms to the latest, and added "v" for v.pl
ascii_modem: diana_coman: feel free to put comment here or if long/detailed in #asciilifeform, i will read
a111: Logged on 2018-11-23 17:05 diana_coman: when I say I can't comment I mean it barfs with "incorrect captcha" while the captcha thing says it's shut down so no word to enter
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i am tempted to ditch paths.
mircea_popescu: re http://ossasepia.com/2018/11/22/smg-comms-chapter-9-files-transfers-and-requests/#selection-41.799-41.846 diana_coman you know we ~could~ do this. "all filenames are 32 characters long followed by a dot and 3 character extension". what's to keep us, filenames only exist as server declares them anyway.
mod6: Thanks diana_coman
mod6: (I made a trb keccak tree over here, just about to test it out. So far, that was my only question. Once done testing and things, will bake blog posts about diana_coman's vk.pl and the grinding of the keccak vtree.)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pnoje-gps-ism is wildly popular in usa, where folx drive 100+km erry day and thing (nominally) walks'em around crashes/jams
trinque: diana_coman: done
trinque: diana_coman: you want these aimed at you in pm?
deedbot: diana_coman subscription to http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/feed failed
mircea_popescu: diana_coman answered
mircea_popescu: diana_coman http://ossasepia.com/2018/11/17/smg-comms-chapter-8-keys-management/#selection-47.534-47.627 << sounds exactly like teh right move.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'virtual' host is a server like public toilet stall is a flat
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know, even in commie time, they had more sense than this latino same hour idiocy. i distinctly recall various large factory bosses in cluj agreeing how to interleave their hours so as to not jampack the conveyances
asciilifeform: diana_coman: here, too, they tend to have it around clusters of 'worker' (office plankton) anthills , esp. the kind with underground garages and lengthy queues to get in/out
bvt: thanks for discusion, asciilifeform, diana_coman. i'm off to bed.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 22:42 diana_coman: bvt> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873650 << well, if i do common part (api) first, then diverging system-specific branches, i still could add new functionality on top of *each* of these branches. i don't like this option. -> perhaps unsurprisingly, the part that one doesn't like is however actually correct i.e. yes, you'll have to maintain the two separately if they are separate; hence my original "they are 2 trees" - because that's
asciilifeform: diana_coman has it ( i'm expanding pedantically specifically for n00bs, but same point )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: consider, if i'd done 'api first' for udp, would have ended up with ~same thing as ave1's hairball, i.e. 'just like gnat.sockets but maybe slightly less sad'
bvt: and also i got useful feedback (thanks, diana_coman!)
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 11:46 diana_coman: bvt, that sounds like you want to start then the tree with ..the API? otherwise at any rate, the user CAN use the same API with whatever provides it, no?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 20:52 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873291 - noted and added to the list though it might still take some time to get up to speed with ffa again
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873480 << this is entirely ok, diana_coman , there is not a burning hurry ( tho i expect that anybody who intends on firing ffa on battlefield will first take the time to properly eat it ) ☝︎
jurov: BingoBoingo: diana_coman: the shares were pushed
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 16:57 asciilifeform: unrelatedly, ave1 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , phf , other folx with a gnat and 10min of free time -- asciilifeform would like to see outputs of http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/thousand_muls.txt ( ch12 benchmark ) on various irons