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a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 16:54 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you know of specifics re the 'millenia' item, i'd be quite curious to see, 1st time i hear of this notion (outside of the hindu nationalist lolcows, who are deadly certain that they had nuke and supercomputer 'millenia' ago also.. )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 15:05 lobbes: (to begin, it will not have self-voice capability. Spyked's voicer is for the ircbot branch of the tree sadly, so I will need to add voicing to the logbot branch. However, I figure that can wait for another day)
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 16:27 lobbes: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/080-botworks-regrind.html << this is pretty cool Spyked. I'ma give your regrind of logbot_command_router_python_genesis a test and if it all presses I'll sign
spyked: (or I can arrange getting up early one of the following days, say wednesday to fit trinque's schedule)
spyked: trinque, I can do in max 3hrs from now (I'm on utc+2 time, and will have to go sleep soon). but yeah, send me all the subscriptions when you have time, so I can cross-check with the ones that I have.
trinque: I'll give you a list of current PM subscriptions so you can keep firing those for people.
trinque: spyked: you want to do the RSS handoff this evening (in say 8hrs, since I dunno where you're at on this orb) ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 15:33 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877907 << my orig proof-of-concept v.py did not Do Right Thing on multiple branches in some tree shapes ( iirc phf orig discovered this effect, yrs ago ) , prolly i oughta rewrite the relevant piece , given as some folx other than asciilifeform apparently still want to use v.py
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877949 <-- ftr, v.py was the first vtron that I read, and I think it's a great didactic implem (though nowadays esthlos v is imho a good competitor in that field) ☝︎
asciilifeform: i find this intolerable on any box used for anything serious whatsoever, so my c101pa is presently gathering dust ☟︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877921 <-- noted. this placement of heathen os in the bootstrapping process is indeed big problem and I hadn't previously considered it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 13:08 mircea_popescu: previous thinking was generally that a regrind pretty much means collapsing a whole tree into a single genesis patch. but thinking about it i don't see why that has to be the case, if there's the hands to do more fine work.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877916 <-- doing the regrind, I also had the sense that "this is akin to fitting lego pieces together in order to obtain meaningful result". and I'm pretty sure there's a log line describing v patches this way, but I couldn't find it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 15:14 mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877917 << If this is regarding payment for the 9.5k wFF, I sent payment at the beginning of November, Sir: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867587 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868263
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 13:11 mircea_popescu: hey did http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875888 actually come to anything ? can i finally invoice that coin an' a half ?
asciilifeform went an' actually read http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877963 , turns out its sorta opposite sign bit from what i assumed ☝︎
asciilifeform: kinda smacks of ye olde 'bagdad battery' ( i.e. 'they ~could~ have, and we found these-here vaguely suggestive pot shards..' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you know of specifics re the 'millenia' item, i'd be quite curious to see, 1st time i hear of this notion (outside of the hindu nationalist lolcows, who are deadly certain that they had nuke and supercomputer 'millenia' ago also.. ) ☟︎
lobbes: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/080-botworks-regrind.html << this is pretty cool Spyked. I'ma give your regrind of logbot_command_router_python_genesis a test and if it all presses I'll sign ☟︎
asciilifeform: i was somehow under impression that in those days ~errybody with a comp and a modem in ro regularly read mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: trinque: i put a calendar slot orig for sat. dec 2 to test cuntoo, but it got stolen by saecular liquishit; sadly i'ma have to postpone until i get ch14
asciilifeform still carrying on with the promise given in ch1 , 'you oughta be able to eat a ch in ~1hour'. tho i do not know if succeeded to date, so far no one said how long it took'em to eat
asciilifeform: ( ch14 in particular, is the most algebra-heavy ch to date, and it's beginning to look like i'ma have to cut it in 2 as i did with ch 12 )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877907 << my orig proof-of-concept v.py did not Do Right Thing on multiple branches in some tree shapes ( iirc phf orig discovered this effect, yrs ago ) , prolly i oughta rewrite the relevant piece , given as some folx other than asciilifeform apparently still want to use v.py ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( it's a reusable component, and i expect will appear elsewhere , so this is quite helpful )
asciilifeform: incidentally i still gotta keccak-regrind FG ( no one complained, but it still gotta be done )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 13:08 mircea_popescu: previous thinking was generally that a regrind pretty much means collapsing a whole tree into a single genesis patch. but thinking about it i don't see why that has to be the case, if there's the hands to do more fine work.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877916 << to date we've had both types of regrind ( e.g. diana_coman reground 'mpi' into 1 genesis, for use in smg ; ffa on other hand had a 'history-preserving' regrind , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2743 ; and iirc mod6 is baking a 'history' regrind for trb ; diana_coman had 'history' regrind for eucrypt; and possibly i missed somebody in this list ) ☝︎
a111: 2018-10-23 <esthlos> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1864316 << apologies alf, I'm running behind! trying to gather time to get caught up in the next week or two
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 13:11 mircea_popescu: hey did http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875888 actually come to anything ? can i finally invoice that coin an' a half ?
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877917 << If this is regarding payment for the 9.5k wFF, I sent payment at the beginning of November, Sir: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867587 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868263 ☝︎☝︎☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( theoretically theirs is 'open sores' but building it requires a multi-GB toolchain that i never succeeded in getting to run )
asciilifeform: what i never had time to bake is a working replacement for their faux-uboot thing.
asciilifeform: as for (1) , recall that i did find a partial break that lets operator 'debrick' ( flash bootloader via usb )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 10:39 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875947 <-- hm. so I'm seeing a few distinct problems here. 1. de-googlifying the bootloader (and getting rid of the cr50 mess); 2. using a non-googlistic kernel; and 3. replacing the rootfs with a cuntoo userspace. if I understood correctly, then 2 depends on googlistic signing software because of 1, but 3 should be doable either way (if anything, ave1's compiler is a more immediate requirement to get
mircea_popescu: hey did http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875888 actually come to anything ? can i finally invoice that coin an' a half ? ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: previous thinking was generally that a regrind pretty much means collapsing a whole tree into a single genesis patch. but thinking about it i don't see why that has to be the case, if there's the hands to do more fine work. ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 18:50 diana_coman: in other possible interesting things: I got invited to give a talk to students at local uni (Reading, UK) on "bitcoin and blockchain"; personally I'm not all that keen on it but given the recent ideas regarding reach out and all that, I am at least considering this; any input on this is welcome
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859582 -> following up on this, the presentation will happen next Monday (10th December), 4.15pm GMT; it's one hour only so I'm not that sure there will be enough time to get online at the end of it but who knows, maybe some students will actually get it and even... do something with it ☝︎
spyked: anyway, I got the c101pa because I need a lightweight machine for travelling. so I might as well assess whether it's possible to build a somewhat sane system on it for productive work.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875947 <-- hm. so I'm seeing a few distinct problems here. 1. de-googlifying the bootloader (and getting rid of the cr50 mess); 2. using a non-googlistic kernel; and 3. replacing the rootfs with a cuntoo userspace. if I understood correctly, then 2 depends on googlistic signing software because of 1, but 3 should be doable either way (if anything, ave1's compiler is a more immediate requirement to get ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: I hope you have recuperative recovery
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'll take your words, it's so pure it's giving me hives, ima stop before rage.
asciilifeform: i dun think i've ever encountered as pure a description of subj.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why they do this stupid woman thing. the only thing this "organization" is good for is to report which shop now has flour. or w/e, "unde s-o bagat lapte", where's the cheap kid shoes, stuff of this nature.
mircea_popescu: what, you're totally going to "introduce leader to me and vanish", that's so utterly how i work.
asciilifeform: i cut it down as far as could be and still complete pic.
asciilifeform: in misc lulz, i located an eng translation of bukovsky. historically i've avoided reading him, couldn't get past the fact that he not only ran off to 'anti-sov' for usg, but works there with gusto ~today~.
BingoBoingo: Not sure yet, I gotta see where pigosadism fits
asciilifeform: stalin had an imho quite prophetic uttering, 'when i'm buried they will pile shit sky high on my grave, but wind of history will blow it away' .
asciilifeform: ( didja know... he had a '#metoo'-style parade of chix, even, for the occasion, 'he raped! and i saw meat grinder! and he coprophagia'd!' etc. x9000 )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-02#1877819 << i saw the film and quite familiar with the 'mad beria' ~stereotype~. simply was not able to find any evidence for it that doesn't genesis-block in hrusch's show trial and Official 'unmasking' . ☝︎
asciilifeform: nao, on other hand, 'cyclical histories' where 'confederacy of dunces' gangs up and dethrones their betters, and then whole edifice turns to shit, from shit grows sumthing new, etc. -- this i can buy, we're quite evidently in the trough of that sinusoid just nao ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: poul anderson had a hilarious novella, 'brainwave', where people were quite like your crabs in that there turned out to be a 'stupidity field' surrounding our chunk of galaxy, which came and went. but i dun know of any real-life reason to introduce that hypothesis.
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you've seen p p pasolini's salo, but i always thought cataldi's role ("the bishop") was specifically patterned after beria.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 23:41 asciilifeform: i'm prolly the wrong fella to do it tho, very much not unbiased, i'll still like the character even if time machine supplies incontrovertible proof that he was a cannibal and ate hot chix erry morning for breakfast
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 19:21 asciilifeform: btw a very good chunk of the present-day cad monopoly biz is powered by tech written by bolix escapees. i tracked some of'em down ( and no they dun answer my mail... ) , they built the current cad houses.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877351 << i see what you mean. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: now that would be some grade a arbitrage, if i could squeeze utility out of such
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'ma guess, you found him in a gutter , clutching bottle of 'night train' ?
asciilifeform: i.e. proverbial phd cabbie
a111: Logged on 2018-12-02 04:10 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876430 << old-timey DSP/IC gent i hired for degrading mobile ui work recently overheard myself and teh boss riffing on john denver; boggled: "that music is older than either of you! in chorus: "sure beats ~anything recorded in our lifetimes, though"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sorry, i don't follow
a111: Logged on 2018-12-02 04:05 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: send me pizarro transactions s'il vous plait, note payments for service in advance; i'll put them into the hopper and produce statement numbers. asciilifeform: next girthy table and calculation to write is the customer equity tracker, i will draft and populate with historical data over the next few days and let you know if i hit any puzzlers (low odds, i'm well-acquainted with the process).
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876430 << old-timey DSP/IC gent i hired for degrading mobile ui work recently overheard myself and teh boss riffing on john denver; boggled: "that music is older than either of you! in chorus: "sure beats ~anything recorded in our lifetimes, though" ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: send me pizarro transactions s'il vous plait, note payments for service in advance; i'll put them into the hopper and produce statement numbers. asciilifeform: next girthy table and calculation to write is the customer equity tracker, i will draft and populate with historical data over the next few days and let you know if i hit any puzzlers (low odds, i'm well-acquainted with the process). ☟︎
asciilifeform: there are other bits an' pieces. for instance, diaries of serov ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672808 ) were found in 2000s . fwiw i read. the usual rotters all 'fecal consensus' that they are a forgery, but i'm actually sold ( not convinced that they were printed ~uncut~, sure , but that not outright fabrication -- convinced ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: it isn't impossible that he did; but in so far as i can tell 100% of that narrative comes from the folx that killed him & danced on the corpse
mircea_popescu: yet conversely, he might actually be the imago of what later came to be "sluggish schizo". man went nuts in his middle age, or so they thought (or so i suspect they thought).
asciilifeform: his orig place , as i understand, was as a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-15#1872422 . ☝︎
asciilifeform: at any rate this thread touches qs that are impossible to answer w/out time machine, so i'ma not put moar weight on it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it wouldn't have been 'rehash of nep' that other players indignant over, but ~their removal~, d00d was, i suspect, getting set to clean house.
asciilifeform: nao i'm curious wainot
asciilifeform: i dun specifically know. but clearly vintage.
mircea_popescu: imo this eminent example. kinda why we discuss orel-i-koshka in preference of whatever disney overdressed princess
asciilifeform: i'm prolly the wrong fella to do it tho, very much not unbiased, i'll still like the character even if time machine supplies incontrovertible proof that he was a cannibal and ate hot chix erry morning for breakfast ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( at some point i'ma have to do a serious with-bib-refs treatment of the subj in engl., afaik none exists ! )
a111: Logged on 2015-03-04 01:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: beria actually picked up women... << based on the sources, i don't regard it as a solid historical fact
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 14:27 asciilifeform: fwiw i read usg indictments as works of fiction, not particularly different from e.g. trial of lavrentiy pavlovich beria, 'british, french, and japanese spy'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an essay where 'hey, if i strangle you, at least it'll be a man strangling you with hands, and not a cockpuppet with paper' or how did it go.
asciilifeform: the troof, to the extent i was able to get at it, was that the d00d was ~soft~ and 'modernization'-inclined. and hence got nailed.
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i looked into the 'deranged', virtually 100% of the extant sources are tainted with hrusch & co.
mircea_popescu: i recall the endless hordes of pantsuit "free women" going there to whore out to him a little for a few decades. what they said at the coffin... w/e, you know how old the dood was ?
asciilifeform: i suspect that mircea_popescu's model is incomplete, i.e. if mircea_popescu were to for some reason http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726231 , regalia wouldn't help ☝︎
asciilifeform: revisiting upstack, the pokerists -- i am led to conclude that usg's inquisition is not particularly vigorous , or the paypalistic poker dens would have gone to sane place as dodo bird
asciilifeform: is it ? i was under impression that farm duck flies like chicken
asciilifeform: i actually have nfi how flight program worx in the bird
asciilifeform: i dunno that goat and not boar. iirc danielpbarron used to have moar courage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suppose goes great with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877263 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 22:12 danielpbarron: but all sorta moot now because i can't legally opperate a gambling thing
asciilifeform: for all i know you gotta have famines to get 1 ppm of kurchatovs and 1000 ppm of actual-people per se
a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 19:05 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i for instance prolly good for three or four hangings, simply on what's in the l0gz
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 22:11 mircea_popescu: i suppose they'd host a pogo for you, but latest thinking here is that not rly worth the amps.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 22:02 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877574 << i just thought that's what being old is. somehow seems to fit 6yo logic, "duckling grows into duck grows into cow grows into tree".
danielpbarron: but all sorta moot now because i can't legally opperate a gambling thing ☟︎
danielpbarron: that was re doing it from the shared host i already have
mircea_popescu: i suppose they'd host a pogo for you, but latest thinking here is that not rly worth the amps. ☟︎
danielpbarron: i've got crates of pogos, is that the item in question?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 21:31 asciilifeform: as a larva i had nfi ~why~ the 'grandfathers' were made of diff stuff, quite evidently to naked eye, than errybody's fathers, but was clear that they were.