asciilifeform: so you send a privkey. recipient does what?

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: pray explain how it works.

asciilifeform: how

asciilifeform: provably?

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: l0l sounds like a job for a gimp script (tnyscheme!11)

asciilifeform: vote for Vermin!11

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha!

asciilifeform: http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/pict/401048414225_1.jpg << them.

asciilifeform still has a box full.

asciilifeform: http://www.cbm.sfks.se/pics/elephant-memory-systems.jpg << who remembers these

asciilifeform: oblig: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2014#581098 ☝︎

asciilifeform: keccak?

asciilifeform: sata ssd will work, but limited to sata-ii (1.5Gb/s) freq.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: x60 is an amazing box (get the 64-bit last rev., 2GHz) but i must warn, it suffers from a barfalicious - by modern standards - lcd.

asciilifeform: (lenovo REALLY doesn't want you to use your own nic)

asciilifeform: i eventually put back the heathen bios on the x60, BUT i ida'd it and nop'd out the imbecile nic whitelist ☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-02-2016#1417976 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-02-2016#1418199 ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: theoretically, x60, because coreboot. but turns out that coreboot is halfbaked.

asciilifeform: perhaps even now he is looking for a suitable concrete wall.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, in particular, seems to understand this principle very well. ☟︎

asciilifeform: BUT RATHER are to be solved by finding and catching the problemator, and smashing him into a concrete wall repeatedly until the problem goes away.

asciilifeform: some problems are not meant to be solved ~at the receiving end~

asciilifeform: or, as uncle al called it, 'plugging the wrong end of the funnel.'

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-04-2015#1095271 << thread. ☝︎

asciilifeform: !s bear suit

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: all of the proposed 'mask' solutions remind me of the 'bear-proof suit'

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it remains trivial to track down and target the addrs ~from~ which bb pays out.

asciilifeform: for one thing, the ~existing~ bets have addrs published.

asciilifeform: worked around ?!

asciilifeform: http://badpenguins.com/gentoo-build-test << for archaeologists.

asciilifeform: ugh

asciilifeform: where, e.g., mircea_popescu can go, 'emerge ben_vulpes' and get a set.

asciilifeform: ultimately, a sane linux - to the extent such a thing is physically possible - will look like a gentoo with a vtronic portage.

asciilifeform: largely because everything that uses it, gets killed by the flag set shown.

asciilifeform: trinque: it doesn't try to slip in

asciilifeform: sturles: i recommend to look at the code, you're in for some surprises.

asciilifeform: what does this mean ?

asciilifeform: (assume signature is valid)

asciilifeform: sturles: how does your node decide if a tx is to be relayed ?

asciilifeform: !s spamola

asciilifeform: for ~6 mo. now.

asciilifeform: this would be an 'academic' matter, were it not for the fact that the enemy is making full use of it.

asciilifeform: (every shot requires you to look at every other)

asciilifeform: not doing so, gives you a worst-case of O(N^2) !

asciilifeform: tight-bound.

asciilifeform: see, requiring inputs-in-old-blocks makes verification O(1).

asciilifeform: !up sturles

asciilifeform: now i am tempted to say to client, when he asks for theta, 'it isn't that complex'

asciilifeform: that is a thing that one can say about an algo now ?!

asciilifeform: 'it isn't the complex' !?!?!!

asciilifeform: sturles: you do not know what computational complexity refers to ??!

asciilifeform: this is called a complexity vulnerability, and presently i search for these, elsewhere and far away, for a living.

asciilifeform: but this was not done, because satoshi smoked dope.

asciilifeform: and it would have been proper for the protocol to forbid the lunacy by proclaiming that a tx cannot rely on inputs IN SAME BLOCK AS IT.

asciilifeform: could far more easily declare, as trb does, 'tx is only valid if inputs are confirmed in existing block.'

asciilifeform: they are doing this for no particularly good reason.

asciilifeform: but they do not HAVE to.

asciilifeform: the miners are free to collect clumps of tx off the street and find, at their own idiot expense, validly linked chains thereof.

asciilifeform: and it's staying dead.

asciilifeform: i killed this idiocy with my own hands.

asciilifeform: sturles: it is pointedly NOT 'how it is' in trb.

asciilifeform: in fact this is happening EVERY MOTHERFUCKING DAY

asciilifeform: allowing chained tx to operate as a unit, in a node, opens you up to one.

asciilifeform: sturles: do you know what an ~algorithmic complexity attack~ is ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: trb does not deal in mights.

asciilifeform: sturles: for 'mights', go to a church.

asciilifeform: (gets in a block.)

asciilifeform: it might BECOME a parent, ~when it grows up~

asciilifeform: it is a fetus.

asciilifeform: if it is in the mempool, it is not a parent !

asciilifeform: try to understand WHY.

asciilifeform: i did this.

asciilifeform: do you know this ?

asciilifeform: sturles: trb WON'T ACCEPT a tx with even ONE unconfirmed input.

asciilifeform: for whatever purpose.

asciilifeform: sturles: you do not see the basic problem with taking a tx on faith ?

asciilifeform: !s orphan tx

asciilifeform: sturles: holy fuck, do you understand how a tx that is not linkable to ACTUAL BLOCK is a ~work of fiction~ ??!!!

asciilifeform: which is now very happy.

asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu the gentoo was tested on a x60 tp.

asciilifeform: sturles: what do you mean, 'at least knows about it' ??

asciilifeform: sturles: what is this about ?

asciilifeform: even wwwtrons.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the given magic will take you to, e.g., fully-functioning x11 emacs, irc clients, etc. that build sans dbus.

asciilifeform: but this is really all ~i~ would have needed.

asciilifeform: whole thing would consist of a step-by-step cookbook.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is the chicken in the recipe, yes.

asciilifeform: (but eschew grub2.)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can test now. everything else install per handbook.

asciilifeform: or a future v-based distro.

asciilifeform: and so could be, theoretically, used on bsd

asciilifeform: now use flags only function under gentoo. but the way they work is to translate into particular configure args when building

asciilifeform: trinque, ben_vulpes, phf, et al ^^

asciilifeform: and it works. 100%.

asciilifeform: it took a good bit of sweat, to derive this kill list.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/3YZ2895.txt << preliminary crib sheet ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: l0lz

asciilifeform: in such a way that the ports tree remains untangled, and the crud is not constantly knocking at the door to come back in.