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assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 01:24:02;
gabriel_laddel: Why, stan, are threads a bad idea?
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 01:23:53;
gabriel_laddel: Please, for the 100th time, go right on ahead.
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 01:14:54;
gabriel_laddel: No lisper to date has produced a distro that DOES NOT CHANGE so one may use it as a platform for application development. Lisp solves a well-specified set of problems - ensuring that your algol reproducibly builds is not one of them.
phf: mircea_popescu: there's a limited number of lispers and they all scratch their own itch. without centralized visions results barely compose.
gabriel_laddel needs working clim for his projects. robert strandh only occasionally hacks on mcclim anymore, spends most of his time on n-th rewrite of emacs, etc. and of course there are arguments of what the components should be and how they should compose. the only common ground is the
phf:
gabriel_laddel: i'm saying that it's only worthwhile to bring in zen if you want to ultimately do x11 support for foreign code. right now your problem is clim+xlib, you want your problem to be clim+xlib+zen+cl-opengl+glx. if the ultimate goal is drop x, then might as well try and retarget clim to framebuffer. the two (adding zen and framebuffer clim) or at 100% identical in the amount of effort
phf:
gabriel_laddel: gnuplot, xfoil kind of output, i.e. batch graphic, or anything that requires input with a mouse
phf:
gabriel_laddel: i was drunk when answering you last time. i like the idea of a self-contained lisp system with ux built on top of xproto/xlib/zen, because can still attach c program outputs, and stream own output to unix systems proper. i've been building my own tools to be essentially a combination of cmucl repl, that spawn xlib windows on demand. not sure if you know but x is essentially a binary network protocol (described in
mircea_popescu: which reminds me of our very own brave sir
gabriel_laddel and his x.org thing
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 03:51:20; ben_vulpes: re: operating systems, i am looking forward to
gabriel_laddel's thing.
ben_vulpes: re: operating systems, i am looking forward to
gabriel_laddel's thing.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel Xenorcara, the OBSD X server man pages should be a start
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel "ignition!" is a pretty choice read.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel no, no dedicated sales people yet. why do you ask?
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mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.
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mircea_popescu: !rate
gabriel_laddel 2 almost a year later, he got a larger chunk of exercise ball down his gullet than anyone i know of.
mircea_popescu: !rated
gabriel_laddel 2 almost a year later, he got a larger chunk of exercise ball down his gullet than anyone i know of.
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 09:38:41;
gabriel_laddel: phf: I've browsed through it, but didn't find what I was looking for. Perhaps if I state my problem someone will know what I need. The goal is to 'fold' the whole notion of X client / server directly into CL function calls. I would like details of how *exactly* X talks to the hardware (Cee sources, yeah) and a large, obvious table as to what all the error codes / X requests are.
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 07:16:11;
gabriel_laddel: Oh, and ben do you have any good reading material re rockets? I'm in the mood for something new.
phf:
gabriel_laddel: perhaps if you stated your problem! xlib is a handful of operations on top of blit, where zen emulates those same operations using opengl. exact details of x talking to hardware is completely outside of scope of xlib, since the whole point is abstract those away.
trinque:
gabriel_laddel │ I've tried, a few times now to get a handle on linux and... << leave gentoo for dead; I couldn't be more pleased with OpenBSD.
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 03:57:31;
gabriel_laddel: In other idle wonderings, has anyone known a cat (the animal) with a cocaine habit?
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 21:26:05;
gabriel_laddel: adlai: imagine for a moment that you're writing a program which abstracts over a lab instrument's controls and does a visualization of the information it reads. The requirement is that people who use it will be intelligent, but not necessarily programmers.
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 20:55:55;
gabriel_laddel: I sunk a lot of time into it (and got it working) only to realize that I don't want to javascript no matter how s-expressiony it is.
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: I've been making excellent use of conkeror for a while now
phf:
gabriel_laddel: you should make a bunch of cool masamune screenshots :)
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: good afternoon
trinque: legend has it that if you say climacs three times
gabriel_laddel appears
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2015 00:44:18; ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, phf, adlai,
gabriel_laddel, shinohai and panzers at large: i've implemented v in common lisp, and would appreciate your eyes on the implementation and perhaps some testing as well:
http://cascadianhacker.com/v_cl.tgz.gpg ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, phf, adlai,
gabriel_laddel, shinohai and panzers at large: i've implemented v in common lisp, and would appreciate your eyes on the implementation and perhaps some testing as well:
http://cascadianhacker.com/v_cl.tgz.gpg ☟︎ whaack:
gabriel_laddel: Alright, I'll look into getting one.
ben_vulpes: if you're feeling adventurous you could try installing
gabriel_laddel's masamune and then scream into the log about gentoo quest
assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 00:46:29;
gabriel_laddel: Well folks, we're 202 days into MP's sustained attack on Stan's identity, and neither side shows signs of tiring. Meanwhile, the cardano languishes on the sidelines...
assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 00:46:29;
gabriel_laddel: Well folks, we're 202 days into MP's sustained attack on Stan's identity, and neither side shows signs of tiring. Meanwhile, the cardano languishes on the sidelines...
ben_vulpes:
gabriel_laddel: good afternoon to you as well
assbot: Logged on 25-10-2015 06:55:24; *:
gabriel_laddel glances to the side, sees 10 orange crush cans.
ben_vulpes: nah you'll have to buy the same computer that
gabriel_laddel has
assbot: Logged on 25-10-2015 16:04:16; asciilifeform: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-10-2015#1307560 << i could tell much the same tale as you. eventually i discovered that i have a 26-hour circadian cycle and no amount of punishments, risks, dope, lost money, etc. will do A FUCKING THING about it. the only cure is to break out of workschwitz so that to sleep ad libitum.
assbot: Logged on 25-10-2015 06:26:09;
gabriel_laddel: othewise I wake up and hate myself, am unable to open my eyes etc
trinque: the thing I'm moderately curious about is what question
gabriel_laddel is asking
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: actually I will admit to using cigs in precisely the same way you were talking about coffee
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: and how healthy are you
punkman:
gabriel_laddel: doesn't the coffee pill make your sleep weird?
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: this sounds like "I should've given a fuck" not "I gave a fuck"
mircea_popescu: <
gabriel_laddel> and then I spend more time hacking apart portage than I would have otherwise << no you don't. this is like the ridiculous notion of teenagers that they'll make a car "better".
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel you have any idea whbat the tolerance to benzo-* is like ?
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel i got benzadrine otc here. asked for cyclobenzapyrine, derp showed up with benzos.
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel that not liking being sober is a very poor reason to be drunk. or whatever you call it.
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel it's a paradoxical thing, what can i say.
phf: (gabrielradio is presumably
gabriel_laddel in mobile mode)
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 23:46:07;
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: are you aware of any molecules with symmetries like [6,6] chiralane?
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel a large part of the problem is that math is very poorly structured.
punkman:
gabriel_laddel: is there a mirror of mcclim.cliki.net?