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a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 02:59 phf: i mean, if you read norvig's python snippets you can clearly see they are written by a very experienced lispers. you literally never see python like that in the wild, but yet there it is.
phf: i mean, if you read norvig's python snippets you can clearly see they are written by a very experienced lispers. you literally never see python like that in the wild, but yet there it is. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:13 phf: Framedragger: i was young and a bum, i recognized all these people because my entertainment machine would reinforce their presence for me. "oh jwz is talking. oh now it's ptacek. oh it's paul graham! squee". but they were always in a different category from say norvig or knuth or naggum. once i started doing and learning (i.e. painfully read knuth, rather than just have him on my shelf) i finally was able to grok the difference.
a111: 20 results for "norvig", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=norvig
asciilifeform: !#s norvig
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 14:50 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657315 << there's very little interest to even ask who the fuck this peter norvig is. i was going to the first time it popped up five lines up, but then i was, eh, whatever. i guess ima ask since it got discussed a little. who the fuck is peter norvig ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657315 << there's very little interest to even ask who the fuck this peter norvig is. i was going to the first time it popped up five lines up, but then i was, eh, whatever. i guess ima ask since it got discussed a little. who the fuck is peter norvig ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: same norvig who wrote ai textbook with 0 lisp
phf: i saw a rambling talk by peter norvig (he called it "as we may program", considering the complete lack of substance that's as bombastic reference as it gets)
asciilifeform: (and yes, ~that~ norvig. he used to be 3111117)
phf: typically people recommend http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ and it's a sort of "rails for beginners" kind of book, but i think best cl option is http://www.norvig.com/paip.html. norvig's paradigms of artificial intelligence programming. it's not so much about "ai", but about some very useful symbolic algorithms, written in ~very elegant~ lisp code
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:13 phf: Framedragger: i was young and a bum, i recognized all these people because my entertainment machine would reinforce their presence for me. "oh jwz is talking. oh now it's ptacek. oh it's paul graham! squee". but they were always in a different category from say norvig or knuth or naggum. once i started doing and learning (i.e. painfully read knuth, rather than just have him on my shelf) i finally was able to grok the difference.
phf: Framedragger: i was young and a bum, i recognized all these people because my entertainment machine would reinforce their presence for me. "oh jwz is talking. oh now it's ptacek. oh it's paul graham! squee". but they were always in a different category from say norvig or knuth or naggum. once i started doing and learning (i.e. painfully read knuth, rather than just have him on my shelf) i finally was able to grok the difference. ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:28 Framedragger: there was a post about statistical/ML approach vs. (one of) rule-based approach(es) just recently, i haven't read it yet, http://norvig.com/chomsky.html (inb4 ad hominem alf's norvig iz usg pawn :P )
Framedragger: there was a post about statistical/ML approach vs. (one of) rule-based approach(es) just recently, i haven't read it yet, http://norvig.com/chomsky.html (inb4 ad hominem alf's norvig iz usg pawn :P ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: but for all i know, this norvig is a joker and the real norvig is with his harem.
mircea_popescu: norvig can, on the basis of his achievements such as they are, live a life his father would have thought good enough for a blue colar laborer.
mircea_popescu: by NOT getting t3, norvig thinks EVEN MORE of the imbecile system he's plugged into.
asciilifeform: and herr norvig, if indeed it is him, is on a comcast line.
mircea_popescu: and who the fuck is peter norvig anyway ?
phf: there's greenblatt, tom knight, david moon, daniel weinreb, guy steele, peter norvig, abelson&sussman, jack holloway. stallman and minsky. not to mention cracauer, eller, fahlman, maclachlan, rme, ron garret of the later people that i know of, tons of people i'm forgetting.
mircea_popescu: heh. speaking of norvig : http://www.norvig.com/Gettysburg/sld001.htm
Adlai: iirc it was norvig who called sudoku "a ddos attack on the human intellect", although it may be more like a pack of hyenas preying on the stragglers
decimation: http://norvig.com/python-lisp.html
decimation: asciilifeform: http://norvig.com/python-lisp.html < educational for a python programmer like me