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trinque: phf: hey how do you deploy a lisp thing?
jurov: phf you're really saying 2x slowdown factor of lisp vs. C is bad and should be further optimized?
mircea_popescu: phf how much is the actual log incidentally ? i see well over 600mb here.
mircea_popescu: part one. you said "i've never done 'honest work' in my whole life, phf." ; and "mircea_popescu has a spiffy article, about folks 'worth their weight in frozen pork'". this equivocates experience with capacity.
asciilifeform: i've never done 'honest work' in my whole life, phf .
asciilifeform: phf: aha, in mircea_popescu's harem
asciilifeform: phf: there are much worse conditions!
asciilifeform: phf: i was hired originally to (yes) calculate runtimes of gnarly algos
mircea_popescu: phf it also happens to be the right thing to do, other than buying bitbet.
asciilifeform: phf: if i had a NON-COMMUTE income
asciilifeform: phf: i used to dream of escaping to it.
asciilifeform: phf: baltimore is mega-cheap
mircea_popescu: phf such a bizarre place you know, they rent last years' car for 2 bux a day, everyone hauls countertops
mircea_popescu: phf actually internet in midwest way better than on the coasts. usually run by township.
asciilifeform: <+phf> i know nhi couple ... but there's literally nothing within 20 minute drive << my parents live in a place like this.
asciilifeform: phf: i live in the 'cheap' suburbs next to umd.
asciilifeform: phf: i dun live in dc
mircea_popescu: phf and for the same reason as here : us lives off govt dole, so the lice crowd the capitla.
mike_c: <+phf> this is totally own dogfood, so bon appetite, but since the log is missing entirely, this will at least get people through until there's something more permanent
mike_c: hey phf - I heard you might be working on a log for this chan. is that true?
asciilifeform: mod6: iirc phf is
mircea_popescu: phf wait ppls hate me nao ?!
mircea_popescu: arguably easier (or at least more accessible) work than slaving butt off to recreate ai like phf's been trying.
asciilifeform: phf: presently it's kako and i re bbet auction
mircea_popescu: phf nah, HE wasn't naked. it's not obligatory.
asciilifeform: phf: parse ll(1)
mircea_popescu: phf fwiw, i did personally see him in the nude and fuck whoever club, he didn't melt.
asciilifeform: phf: i'm allergic to 'female culture', shoes, piles of gaudy clothing idiocy, etc. what of it.
mircea_popescu: phf actually there's a very funny thing re that, girls never smell of earnest sweat. every place has a consensus-chosen chem barrier for that.
asciilifeform: phf: not necessarily 'are animal', but 'smell of animal', trigger my personal allergy.
asciilifeform: 11:36 <+phf> fwiw there's plenty of clever girls in dc club scene << ~definitionally~ not what i consider usable.
asciilifeform: 11:31 <+mircea_popescu> phf i dunno fucking comprehend the disdain affected (perhaps to the point of believing themselves) by intellectual folk re the pro sluts. << nonono i just loathe the hump of the bell curve, sluts, no sluts, whatever
mircea_popescu: phf i met tons of guys that went "yeah baby i'm ap roducer"
mircea_popescu: phf half the time it's not the schooled clever, which is just as well.
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno fucking comprehend the disdain affected (perhaps to the point of believing themselves) by intellectual folk re the pro sluts.
mircea_popescu: phf hey, and you wanted to teach a computer how to do it!
mircea_popescu: phf anyway, take your time. mebbe alf watches it too and he can catch up with teh rest of the class!
mircea_popescu: phf "the singular act towards which all exposition leads and from which all conclusion follows". that's the classical climax. yes, modern and adultcontempo storytelling does not strictly follow classicism, just like they abandoned the unity of time and place. but the thing still is what it always was.
mircea_popescu: phf what is the definition of climax ?
mircea_popescu: phf is it ? whyssat ?
mircea_popescu: phf and he also defined the notion yes ?
mircea_popescu: phf eliza is clinically proved === therapist.
BingoBoingo: phf: I haven't read it, but I don't see anything wrong with the idea
BingoBoingo: phf: I looking for something that runs locally
asciilifeform: phf: lulzy
mircea_popescu: phf for my curiosity, will << be a reserved symbol ? to demonstrate to alf the value and importance of in-band control codes ?
thestringpuller: phf: turning the logs into genius.com?
mircea_popescu pours himself a glass of popcorn, waits for phf to fully ensnare himself in the monstruous task he's contemplating.
asciilifeform: phf: how does this work
mircea_popescu: phf a right, stefan' sword still there neh /
mircea_popescu: phf you ever been to istanbul ?
asciilifeform: phf: i utterly forget the name, but it is on dupont
asciilifeform: phf: on occasion i go to this cellar in old dc where a buncha turks make ~actual ice cream.
mircea_popescu: phf think on just one thing : i also train women to be human. oft they get a task to talk to random people. they NEVER get a fucking task to memorize and recite random strings.
mircea_popescu: phf aha!
mircea_popescu: phf it can sound, depending how fast you go.
punkman: ah good find phf
mircea_popescu: phf quite exactly. which is why i don't use the term nor think much of reasonings employing it as a rule.
mircea_popescu: phf i hope you're not about to put magic numbers in the fucking code!
mircea_popescu: phf "to an extent" is always the case.
mircea_popescu: phf that'd be the definition of the idiot.
mircea_popescu: phf ie, whenever they had an idea ?
DianaComan: that's phf's line from the fragment
DianaComan: phf: i'm just saying there was plenty of opportunities to speak up against crazy in the past, and i saw plenty of crazy and i just thought everyone else took it in strides, as part of the game. apparently not! <- at a stretch crazy might be seen as an insult I suppose
mircea_popescu: phf i'm very happy with the guy's statement, both in the fundamental rejection and in the discursive analysis of the claims aspects. more words may be added to beenfit peculiar idiots, but as it stands it contains the first 4k or so words one'd say on the topic.
mircea_popescu: phf yes, i am very happy with it. guy even includes a formal scheme of what the proof should look like, for the benefit of the titrated tykes.
asciilifeform: phf: and later in life, from grant committee!1111
asciilifeform: phf: seveneves was a misery ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf don't forget crystal space.
asciilifeform: phf: reader macro !
asciilifeform: phf: naggum died
asciilifeform: phf: it's been dead wood for yearz
BingoBoingo: phf: It desperately needs a followup addressing the 20th century evolution of the thing and the obfustication that was heaped upon it.
BingoBoingo: phf: Thing was a reaction the the civil war and proposed as a solution to avoiding civil wars while still allowing everything to appear contentious
BingoBoingo: phf this social engineering strategy has a long history in USG kingdom. Invented by "St Louis Hegelians" who then moved to Harvard and infected USG. Favorite means of USG for getting desired outcome by letting crowd pick the narrative for how they got there.
mircea_popescu: phf alrighty then!
mircea_popescu: phf you have to have costa rica coffee before you may speak of coffee.
asciilifeform: phf: in prison one makes chess pieces from bread and piss, what else is there to do.
asciilifeform: Mar 29 09:46:10 <phf>asciilifeform: https://github.com/cgwalters/git-evtag i know snore, but sort of follow up to recent git conversation << extreme sn0resportz
asciilifeform: mod6: right now it's mainly kako, phf, and i
diana_coman: aha, thanks for the clarification phf ; I did follow the whole thread but I can't say I actually caught this intent of yours as such
mircea_popescu: phf> asciilifeform: how's conversation links going to work? << this is actually a rather complex problem. i suspect they well might not work at all.
asciilifeform: phf: aha, mine also. so far the data is discouraging - who the fuck, for example, is aegis ?
asciilifeform: phf: as described above.
mircea_popescu: phf> generative vines that grow based on how much space there is << word.
asciilifeform: phf: i see b-a log with buncha white space
asciilifeform: phf: what is this
trinque: phf: if you've got a log viewer nearly complete, do you want a postgresql db connection from me for it? I'll be collecting logs with the new deedbot.
asciilifeform: phf: apparently originally a naval knot, http://alpnews.narod.ru/uzly/#20
mircea_popescu: phf no idea what opposition would be. lemme dig up the comment i guess.
asciilifeform: phf: the last thing i recall TaT doing is, mircea_popescu offered him a co-authorship on something or other, and TaT refused because afraid of gassing
asciilifeform: phf: i actually met TaT in meatspace, at mircea_popescu's c2. we sat in the airport together in the end. i got the impression that he was 'ok guy' but somewhat lacked... courage.
BingoBoingo: dayum, phf dropping the history bomb
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assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 00:04:06; phf: nor is there an easy way to answer "what was signed" question, short of reading source. you just have to assume that right bits go in, and that nobody's going to change what bits go in in future releases, etc.
mircea_popescu: phf i heard this privately too, during rebasing debate, "pretty much the only way to manage this insanity is to put it on mercurial"
mircea_popescu: phf either b,tmsr~ or else tmsr! there is no tmsr~!
asciilifeform: phf: thing is that i have no intention of ignoring the sha1 issue. sha1 is ~broken~.