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asciilifeform: and involved a hilarious usg idiocy
mircea_popescu: except, it won't be men in usg-blue shirts humbled before tshirted croc wearing crowd,
gribble: How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain't ...: <http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/>; Bitcoin - Twitter: <https://twitter.com/gavinandresen>; USGavin, the lolcow pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/usgavin-the-lolcow/>
nubbins`: ;;google usgavin bitcoin
mircea_popescu: (if you use usg "free" storage, "special deal for gavincoin")
asciilifeform: but of course, this place doesn't officially exist, 'no one could have guessed' that z was lowered into pederasty and made usg stooge, etc. never happened because not in 'forbes.'
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: anybody here play/have played poker at casinos frequently? << if you mean irl, and not the retarded usg run stuff, then yes. http://trilema.com/2010/high-society/
BingoBoingo: decimation: GPS time is USG turd. Want to be able to keep own clock.
decimation: asciilifeform: usg actually proposed getting rid of leap seconds
decimation: re: usg intel 'truths': https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol.-55-no.-1/pdfs/CleanedPetersen-What%20I%20Learned-20Apr2011.pdf
asciilifeform: i don't even believe, necessarily, that they have achieved anything. but in a logically distinct hypothesis that the snowden papers do not prove 'usg is impotent' any more than the famous kgb defections of the '70-80s proved that soviet intelligence was dead
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: this is why I think private spy agency with $maxint budget are more efficient than any USG version.
asciilifeform: usg bureaucracy is every bit as gnarly as soviet equivalents, there are ~two dozen 'spy agencies', each with $maxint budget and practically whole legal immunity
asciilifeform won't belabour the point re: how 1) the nsa directorate that ended up publicly pants-down is not the whole nsa 2) the bureau is not the whole of usg intelligence
asciilifeform: jurov: the uuencoded blob contained a fairly unremarkable keylogger (meant as a module within one of the gigantic modular mega-turds usg is fond of.)
asciilifeform: https://data.awp.is/data/international/16/morecowbell.pdf << usg version of 'isitup'
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: USGavinCoin is real. http://www.americanbanker.com/bankthink/the-cryptocurrency-that-dare-not-speak-its-name-1072352-1.html Because they couldn't find a way to create bitcoin bars full of lead, they are going to hijack bitcoin and use it to their whim.
mircea_popescu: mats: i am disappointed the snow is not piled higher. this is not the apocalypse i was promised! << usg makes a habit to overpromise and underdeliver.
decimation: I suspect 'rich in bezzlars' will not convey post-usg sovereignty
asciilifeform: i do not know enough about koch to say whether he is likely to become a post-usg sovereign who might conceivably carry out experiments with artificial fucktopias
asciilifeform: perhaps after usg implodes he can buy some people to fill it with
decimation: of course, in an account that isn't locked away by some deal with usg re: taxes
asciilifeform: (usg lab)
decimation: similarly, usg civil servants don't find much reason to bother with actual work, when coolies will do - often for free
decimation: they all exist under the heading of some usg fiat or another, mostly from fdr days
asciilifeform: microshit, for instance, is in every way - other than law - a ministry of usg
asciilifeform: much of the daily contact between usg and subjects has not the remotest thing to do with laws
decimation: note that usg accomplishes bifurcating the internet without actually writing down any law
asciilifeform: usg still working on hardforking the internet << it can't ever stop, until dies. burned into its bios, or sumthinglikethat
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usg still working on hardforking the internet, huh ?
asciilifeform: 'spy agency' will be abolished and replaced with another, usg-friendly one.
mircea_popescu: the usg is not going to like people fucking up its shit. that's not changing. google isn't going to start acting like anything but a usg agent. that's also not changing. what are teh staffers in question expect will happen, or expected will have happened ?
mats: replaced? schmidt has been a USG cocksucker since day 1
mircea_popescu: "us company subsisting out of us fed subsidies fails to implement usg policy. is replaced with different one, nobody notices the difference."
mircea_popescu: <decimation> because usg is too stupid to move to somewhere cheaper <>< nah, not how it works. wherever it moves, the bedbugs move there too. it won't stay cheaper.
asciilifeform: actually, usg ministries where no official secrets are involved - now routinely let folks grunt remotely
decimation: because usg is too stupid to move to somewhere cheaper
mats: mircea_popescu: but there are 11 judges with 0 cases and 12 with just 1. i'm now going through and reading every case involving USG, i've cleared ten judges this way, but the number of cases i've been able to find have been fairly low in number
decimation: time is a concern for bitcoin, and I suspect that 99% of your 'ntp' servers trace back to usg
asciilifeform: hence, the enthusiastic suckers of usg cock are faced with waging war on everything that distinguishes their country from african pisshole
asciilifeform: ^ sentenced for digging usg dirt without belonging to official mouthpiece media.
asciilifeform: (it was to concern the usg dept. of firmware-diddlers)
BingoBoingo: mats: Anyways since you declared allegiance to New Reno USG I have to assume polio USG is spending more then $100k per year chasing less than a prius in Buttstamp valued BTC.
mats: all this gloom about forest fires makes me nervous, i am a mere vassal of USG with insufficient rocket fuel
decimation: usg's failure to properly implement fire department radio encryption (not that it is needed) could have killed people http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/New-Radio-Encryption-May-Have-Stymied-Communication-in-Metro-Incident-289075111.html
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015/01/isc-biowar-kr-cn.pdf (scan) << usg use of bioweapons in kr war. detailed study.
mircea_popescu: an usg education is an economic substitute of an actual education, and margerine is an economic substitute for butter.
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for gavinandresen with note: with note: pathetic usg muppet. tirelessly schemes to zimbabweize bitcoin in the name of 'inclusion.'
asciilifeform: !rate gavinandresen -1 with note: pathetic usg muppet. tirelessly schemes to zimbabweize bitcoin in the name of 'inclusion.'
mircea_popescu: uh this log. so yesterday^H^H^H^ earlier today ben_vulpes is all like "god i love you guys". then i get all "wtf is this derp thinking, giving usgavin room to pretend for ?" and next line in log, sure enough...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it goes very well with the usg approach to target selection. which is the 'texas sharpshooter' algorithm.
asciilifeform: 'changetip,' as i understand, answers two usg desires: 1) injection of tard armies into bitcoin, fodder for gavinization 2) the old, tired 'let's put some names/faces/palmprints/arsebook histories on as many btc addrs as we can'
asciilifeform: incidentally, there was a time when usg did the 'strategic vc' thing more or less above-board. see 'in-q-tel.'
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i was telling a friend the other night that the CIA/FBI acts as the USG mafia, but won't admit to being the mafia. Whereas KGB/Soviets said, "Yea we're the mob, watcha gonna do about it?"
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> any reason to doubt that the usg exchanges and other scum are 'on board' (for what that's worth) ? << it is going to be *fascinating* to see how coinbase et. al are going to handle this
Luke-Jr: you think the block size issue is USG-inspired? what do they have to gain from it?
mircea_popescu: it's so far 100% of the bitcoin "told the usg to get fucked" party. once you digest that you might be in a better position to evaluate who matters and who doesn't,
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: you're still thinking in terms of persuasion. we don't need to persuade the usg stooge of anything.
asciilifeform: any reason to doubt that the usg exchanges and other scum are 'on board' (for what that's worth) ?
asciilifeform: soon we find out whether the button given to the usg shill is actually wired to anything ?
asciilifeform: 'financial discipline' was the imf standard pill for all of eastern europe all through the 90s << it meant, simply, 'privatization' by usg shills.
mircea_popescu: jurov no, not really. just in the parallel universe where usg matters.
thestringpuller: USGavin is trustworthy and honest, and the hero bitcoin deserves and needs!!!!!111
mircea_popescu: o wait, usgavin lied ?!
decimation: but that's usg policy since at least before wwii
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this almost certainly requires a dead usg, or at the very least one which is in no condition to sinecure progressives.
asciilifeform does not blame usg for everything
mircea_popescu: does cardano not exist on shelf because usg ?
asciilifeform: not even entirely usg. none of the wealthy mega-army states really want inexpensive partizan-warfare aids on the shelf.
asciilifeform: it's a straight usg thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: head-worn displays are considered, by usg, to be key military tech (all existing manufacturers of serious - i.e. svga and above units - supply usg exclusively) ☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally, the security implications of a good head-worn computer display suggest that no such thing will be permitted to exist while usg has any say on the subject.
asciilifeform: http://www.spiegel.de/media/media-35674.pdf << usg's gossipd.
decimation: not for any technical reason, but because of the assorted pile of usg policy & requirements that apply to 'common carrier' services like telephone
mircea_popescu: i give voice to all the whores, not to mention all sorts of known usg agents
decimation: in civil court usg has explicit immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity_in_the_United_States
decimation: in theory, usg has no legal immunity (from criminal courts), but in practice it clearly does
decimation: some elements of usg would claim otherwise
mircea_popescu: decimation: there's a deep hypocrisy here somewhere. apparently the usg entities who are involved with foreign surveillance couldn't possibly do their jobs if they were subject to 'regulation', but of course regular people trying to say, transact bitcoin, have no such reprieve << well, usg entities that deal in bitcoin do have such reprieve currently ?
decimation: well, there's an issue of policy here, which is "is a us person allowed to communicate in a manner outside the possibility of usg interception?"
decimation: there's a deep hypocrisy here somewhere. apparently the usg entities who are involved with foreign surveillance couldn't possibly do their jobs if they were subject to 'regulation', but of course regular people trying to say, transact bitcoin, have no such reprieve
decimation: apparently usg has decided to greatly limit (not completely stop) civil forfeiture at the federal level
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: there are plenty of people who are so focused on "mass adoption" as a priority that they will compromise any and all aspects of bitcoin to further that goal; what would get more mass adoption than endorsement from USG? << it could become a new brand of tide.
thestringpuller: 22:13 <+asciilifeform> i have said before that an official usg altcoin is
asciilifeform: i can easily picture an 'atomic war' where every btc which usg has at some point begged, borrowed, stole, or can prevail upon a vassal to give up control of - will be placed on market in a 'last hurrah'
asciilifeform: i'm not seeing any serious evidence of 'long-term' thinking on usg's part.
danielpbarron: there are plenty of people who are so focused on "mass adoption" as a priority that they will compromise any and all aspects of bitcoin to further that goal; what would get more mass adoption than endorsement from USG?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I do not see how anyone will contribute to usgavincoin when Buterin's waterfall explodes right after inception.
thestringpuller: ofc, but USG coin that is used to also do what? annoy us out of our money like some comcast nonsenese?
asciilifeform: i have said before that an official usg altcoin is inevitable.
mircea_popescu: i know for a fact the usg did not know what was in the leaks until their press agents told em
asciilifeform: vaguely credible evidence that usg puts to use ecc internally, but no suggestion of with what curves.
asciilifeform: it isn't simply an 'other language', it's a massive toolchain created and maintained by a usg satrap.
asciilifeform: and it was not necessary to work for usg per se to fall under it.
mircea_popescu: not like you're going to do anything whatsoever BECAUSE of the usg.
decimation: of course, esteemed professors in USG law explain how this is good: Ms. Lobel said. “But it’s a good result in that there has been much media attention to the illegality of such retention practices, real monetary consequences and promises to cease all such practices in the future.”"
asciilifeform: (who typically succumbs to the temptation of using hw-accelerates, e.g., aes? - folks setting up vpn or otherwise bridging nets with serious traffic. aka delicious targets for usg.)
mircea_popescu: the key to escaping from usg is not caring about usg issues ; the key to not caring about usg issues is escaping from usg.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right now it is elementary fear of usg that keeps the leaked docs scarce and largely unused
asciilifeform: lol, suck moar usg cock