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asciilifeform: incidentally, usg doctrine is that 'fresh' nuke powers don't really 'count' - much as usa did not count in 1947 because, elementarily, not enough of the specific industrial base to secure a steady supply of nukes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: su was also nuclear power, didn't keep the buggers from shipping diddled tech there by the gigatonne
mircea_popescu: aren't you a little late ?
decimation: asciilifeform: do you think that jtag will show something that these mtd turds don't
asciilifeform: i still don't get this:
asciilifeform: won't someone buy one of these things and hook up to jtag bugger driven with gdb, and post instruction stream ?
asciilifeform: though i can't fathom they'd have the gall to try censoring uboot as 'warez'
asciilifeform: drop it somewhere it won't be tampered with, & sign it (ok if you wanna gpg it to wot folks instead of publicly)
mircea_popescu: he didn't paste the whole thing did he
mircea_popescu: not necessarily proof that you weren't beheaded.
asciilifeform: one doesn't need an expert usgologist to say what happened here.
asciilifeform: ^ lulzies! they very much don't want you replacing that uboot.
asciilifeform: no you don't
decimation: ^ why? because you don't want to ship your strange
mircea_popescu: just like tewkwhatever, mass can't get security experts.
mircea_popescu: just like ohio can't get dramatic artists.
mircea_popescu: no, it's, "because if we did or if we didn't, we still don't get any"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought the pattern was, 'don't need men, only their dough' ?
mircea_popescu: "good thing we don't need men"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not necessarily. but perhaps ar doesn't -need- any ?
mircea_popescu: they haven't any.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ubiquiti example dovetails nicely with the thread re: unemployed reversers. if persians happily buy turdware, they either haven't many, or haven't any competent ones, or they are all occupied with something else (what ?)
mircea_popescu: spam masquerading error reports nao, the world simply can't exist w/o wots.
mircea_popescu: today ... "For some reason or another, I can't see all of this content, it keeps disappearing? Are you taking advantage of java?"
asciilifeform: (what it was - they left tftp on. in precisely the way we won't in 'pogotron')
asciilifeform: of course, now we have a helpful recipe for determining whether it's a don't-give-a-fuck-shop or a usg honeypot - sue, and see if state secrets privilege is invoked...
mircea_popescu: it's not like the entire cookbook isn't actually given there eh ? ready for copy paste.
pete_dushenski isn't smart enough to sling dope, it seems
pete_dushenski: mebbe you don't want them, which'd be your call
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://libertybsd.net/ubiquiti/ << i can't believe whoever wrote that seriously thinks linking to unitedagainstnucleariran.com bolsters whatever point they may wish to make. << Oh, you caught the third layer lulz there. http://qntra.net/2015/03/private-lawsuit-dismissed-because-of-state-secrets-privilege/
mircea_popescu: http://libertybsd.net/ubiquiti/ << i can't believe whoever wrote that seriously thinks linking to unitedagainstnucleariran.com bolsters whatever point they may wish to make.
asciilifeform: doesn't ring a bell ☟︎
asciilifeform about half jew depending on how counted, but doesn't know a thing about jewing
BingoBoingo: It doesn't even really take an intelligent lawyer.
mircea_popescu: more on point : i wonder how many people didn't have to pay their tickets because had intelligent lawyer who disputed chain of custody claims of police.
mircea_popescu: something they couldn't even legally do, which is why they had to bring in delphi for 20k.
BingoBoingo: I wonder how many petty traffic, weed, and misdemeanor tickets would have been unprosecutable if they didn't pay the people to pay the turroristas
mod6: !t m s.mpoe
mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't think there was ever someone unemployed in that field, ever.
lobbes: Or is it simply: "Don't make yourself a target for usg" ?
BingoBoingo: Right, but if the designer of the trap isn't competent...
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: doesn't hold against competent victim
mircea_popescu: it also doesn't work, necessarily. if it did, we wouldn't actually need bitcoin to solve the specific problems it solves.
mircea_popescu: im kinda surprised "spvs" didn't get banned last time tbh.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard it was, wans't it...
mircea_popescu: "no that doesn't happen" "right" "you don't understand how the world works!"
ascii_field: and other things. It's supposed to make application programs independent of the separately configured actual network environment of the machine. A nice idea, but changes to GLIBC can lead to problems loading it. And you can't statically link "libnss", since it is configured for each machine individually. The problem comes, I think, mainly from statically linking other GLIBC libraries, notably "libpthread", "libm", and
ascii_field: '"I suppose the idea is that everything will be in the downloaded file, so nothing depends on the local libraries on the target system. Unfortunately with Linux, and I think anything else using GLIBC, this still isn't quite true. There's this "libnss" (name service switch, some people seem to call it network security system) which provides functions for accessing various databases for authentication, network information,
nubbins`: fwiw it's just a matter of ripping out the chunks of boost that don't belong
nubbins`: totally have the static binary here, just... can't replicate the build.
punkman: so, don't ldd as root n' stuff, in case you didn't know
cazalla: ooh looks like this australian didn't wanna play ball any longer http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/military-adviser-adam-cobb-arrested-in-us-on-child-pornography/story-e6frg6nf-1227293195488
mircea_popescu: the people who take decisions aren't on skype. the people who are on skype don't take decisions.
mircea_popescu: well luckily ver invested the money he doesn't have into a new way to butter the coin!
mircea_popescu: the ordinary streetwalker couldn't explain how a car engine works, either. that doesn't make car engines unimportant.
asciilifeform: <decimation> I didn't see it. So " --enable-static-nss" is useful for glibc << as i understand, this results in random breakage (a binary which only runs with any degree of certainty on your machine)
decimation: what amuses me is that the excuse of 'it fixes bugs' only applies to code that isn't otherwise distributed by the 'distro'
asciilifeform: 'I do not know where to find the historic references, but yes, static linking is dead on GNU systems. (I believe it died during the transition from libc4/libc5 to libc6/glibc 2.x.) The feature was deemed useless in light of: Security vulnerabilities. Application which was statically linked doesn't even support upgrade of libc....'
decimation: yeah I don't get it
decimation: I didn't see it. So " --enable-static-nss" is useful for glibc
mircea_popescu: literally, "n-ai pe cineva... ?" ie , "don't you have someone..."
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: haven't seen le grand blond but will add it to the list.
pete_dushenski: because in magical fairy land, things that don't like you don't exist
mircea_popescu: not journalists like every other whore you fucked whenever you didn't mind getting filmy.
mircea_popescu: "I don't remember that," Fisher says. "But the inmates did tell me they had never eaten so good until I arrived."
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 16:50:58; trinque: I don't want decisions made for me; I want bricks laid for me.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-04-2015#1089468 << couldn't have said it better myself. ☝︎
nubbins`: absent title: "the bitcoin protocol doesn't exist"
BingoBoingo: mats: "The packages, at 4 inches by 6 inches, are not easily concealed, he said. And because of the single-use packaging, he said, it would be easier to spike a punchbowl with a large bottle of rum." << I was telling people you wouldn't lose volume by powdering the stuff
nubbins`: mildly annoying that i've got a binary but can't reproduce the process
nubbins`: anyway, the general idea is to use bcp to rip everything out of boost that doesn't belong there
nubbins`: man for the life of me i can't reproduce these build steps
danielpbarron: not that gentoo can't do those things, but the installer is actually somewhat automated
danielpbarron: if you're used to debian, OpenBSD isn't such a jarring experience
nubbins`: i can't remember ;/
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: i have an enp0s3 as well, don't really know what to do to turn it into/use it as eth0 tho
trinque: I don't want decisions made for me; I want bricks laid for me. ☟︎
nubbins`: but i don't think it's a *terrible* idea for our install script to only compile the parts of boost that we need
nubbins`: no storage attached at all, so i can't tell if it, y'know, does anything
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-04-2015#1089403 < because uclibc doesn't even support nss ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i didn't say it should take YOU an hour. i said it should take me an hour.
ascii_modem: me, i find all those -other- distros, the ones that insist on littering my disk with all those bins i didn't ask for and that werent built in my home - unusable
punkman: http://blog.randi.io/2015/04/03/swated/ << couple cops showing up and being polite doesn't sound like "SWATed"
mats: quoth the spender: "the problem i set out to solve with UDEREF was that many kernel bugs can be exploited (at all or more reliably) due to the fact that on i386 most OSs don't separate the userland virtual address space from that of the kernel. this in turn means that whenever userland can make the kernel (unexpectedly) dereference a userland controlled
trinque: I don't feel smarter doing this
trinque: can't have that because it wouldn't be gentoo!
ben_vulpes: i-i'm scared, t-trinque
decimation: Adlai: yeah I don't think it will even let you link with any modern open source standard libraries
Adlai: something like compcert doesn't help when the libraries have mounds of garbage code, even if it "works," you just get mounds of garbage object code
decimation: "Although the investigation focused almost entirely on software, there is at least one HW factor: Toyota claimed the 2005 Camry's main CPU had error detecting and correcting (EDAC) RAM. It didn't. EDAC, or at least parity RAM, is relatively easy and low-cost insurance for safety-critical systems."
decimation: don't laugh ascii, it's apparently industry standard
nubbins`: who doesn't
ascii_modem: if i can't replicate it with my existing toolchain - it doesnt exist
decimation: I didn't run it to full sync
mircea_popescu: then you don't really care if you win
mircea_popescu: world ain't ending tho.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-04-2015#1089015 << models are not optional and people can't generally be helped. ☝︎
trinque: someone to bop you on the head that maybe still wants you around, vs letting reality do it, which doesn't care if you survive the lesson
Adlai: at the end of the day, nothing that (a little|complete removal of) css can't fix