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mike_c: I don't know what you guys are smoking
a111: Logged on 2016-04-16 06:23 gabriel_laddel: They don't have to be related to molecular dynamics simulations, though that is why I'm asking...
gabriel_laddel: They don't have to be related to molecular dynamics simulations, though that is why I'm asking... ☟︎
pete_dushenski: but don't take my hunches as god's word, intel dept i'm not
mod6: <+asciilifeform> but it is NOT a substitute for modern electric rng << hey, i guess to an extent, i totally agree. except, we don't have a modern electirc rng.
mircea_popescu: i don't know there's a better alternative than cs.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's anything wrong with proper, full rsa (as opposed to the neutered version implemented by pgp)
mod6: cause really, i don't care baout the d6, i need to invent the table for d16
mod6: i actually don't care /that/ much. im trying to wrap my brain around the truth table for the d6, with three rolls.
sbp: don't, you'll give me nightmares. worse ones, I mean
sbp: I dunno man. turtles all the way down, and I don't trust any of them
sbp: yeah, even if you took a batch and decapped all of them but one, I suppose you wouldn't know for sure that that wasn't the exploited one. I don't know if it's possible to make a chip that you can audit before it's running
sbp: Wand and Shutt kept arguing about whether Shutt's expansion even worked, and I don't know the outcome of that. but let's say that Kernel (Shutt's language) does work—it's syntactically somewhat unwieldy. typing the fexprs to the arguments is very clean and easy to follow
sbp: I don't know why I wrote it in the style of a Klondike gold prospector era huckster salesman
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't know the fella at all, but he appears to read my www, that's all i know.
mircea_popescu: sbp i don't recall exactly ; possible tho.
asciilifeform: sbp: i don't recall it being sedit, but some msdos emulator thing called 'medley'
sbp: asciilifeform: how did you find SEdit? I have only spoken to one friend who used the Interlisp-D machine, and I don't think he said anything about SEdit
sbp: also, I don't know if you remember, but the Interlisp-D machine had a program called SEdit
sbp: I'm the Alert Reader from Loper 1361. we don't know one another outside of that, sorry!
asciilifeform: Apr 14 13:09:53 <trinque>what, you don't think the best and brightest work at the NSA, I mean the subcontractor for the NSA, I mean the sub-sub... << my current understanding is that 'best and brightest' don't actually work anywhere, they sit in arkakao and eat ice cream with mircea_popescu et al
trinque: what, you don't think the best and brightest work at the NSA, I mean the subcontractor for the NSA, I mean the sub-sub...
asciilifeform: (i don't recall seeing any ssltronics in the src that was linked here)
phf: yeah, but the bot explicitly doesn't reconnect, because i don't want to lose messages and introduce continuity break. perhaps i should just do that as a "good enough" measure, but i want to just write a communicating-multi-bot setup over the weekend
mircea_popescu: so : it's true that i don't have to keep the proceeds. it is not however true they're free money.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i don't see him hunting and prepping any food.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i don't expect to ever relax. but currently exploring the idea of less-loathesome wurk << Seriously try Home Depot
asciilifeform: i don't expect to ever relax. but currently exploring the idea of less-loathesome wurk
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i suppose if you don't need error handling..
diana_coman: jay borenstein, he's the initiator of Open Academy as far as I know (I don't know him personally)
diana_coman: I don't mean we should now explain how it is more interesting, more a statement of concrete points
a111: Logged on 2016-04-08 20:36 mircea_popescu: davout i have nfi what you did here. for one thing, shareholders don't get 86, they get 86 + 1% of resolveed bets - 13.37
phf: i personally know girls that charge the entire range from about 200 to 1500, they list on high end escort services, because they can pull it off, but they also list on various adultfinder variations, because that's a quick buck. i don't know what's the lowest they went for, i should ask, but this definitely doesn't work like "market forces"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thinks i don't know how poorly this place is set up, haw
mats: i don't look forward to the prospect of marriage
mats: i don't understand what kind of strategic advantage they see in this
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think cygwin translates syscalls, it was more of half-baked mingw
mats: i don't think so
mats: i'm curious what is going to happen with the syscalls that don't map cleanly
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 05:55 ben_vulpes: more like "we don't make much over here, and you don't ride bikes, so i don't think this cult is for you"
punkman: I don't really like the sweet neem thing, definitely don't use it in currys
phf: but none is the answer to why cmucl, and i don't think there's one. mostly why not? it's a question of discipline for me, can i move slow and not freak out against deficiencies. i think that "looking for silver bullet" is just a waste of time, and there's no way that i can possibly explore entire cmucl solution space, until a whole new set of base capabilities is required
mircea_popescu: i thought lisp exiosts so you don't "Get a hang somewhere"
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think lisps support cross-compilation in general?
mircea_popescu: suppose i don't.
asciilifeform: i still don't get it
mircea_popescu: im unconvinced multibox support is a good idea. if i am going to run on non-x86, i sure as fuck don't wantall the x86 stuff in there.
ben_vulpes: more like "we don't make much over here, and you don't ride bikes, so i don't think this cult is for you" ☟︎
felipelalli: there are a URL that keep the log of this channel? (please don't say "read the logs to know it") - and how can I search something in the log with deedbot? Is that possible?
phf: i don't know ~who~ you're explaining this to, but you're missing my point. nsa/gchq ideology is out in the open, so there's no need to read it into any random event. if a policeman beats up a nigger one day and saves a kitten from a tree another, there's really no reason to read "reinforcement of hegemony" into the second action, since there's the first one
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how teh world worx!
asciilifeform: just as i don't need mosquitoes
asciilifeform: i literally don't need them for anything
asciilifeform: and how do coinz enter into this, in so far as i'm concerned those are a nonrenewable resource that i carefully hoard, i don't get paid in'em
asciilifeform: i don't like being driven any more than driving
asciilifeform: generally i don't even ~use~ the www logz when on an actual computer
BingoBoingo: <jurov> they explicitly point out it's overcomplicated and has thus big attack surface. so, no sane walletotron that way. << I really don't mean keeping much in the way of hardware. Just a plastic case that arouses a wildly different kind of suspicion.
phf: i don't have a eulora build on this machine
mircea_popescu: i don't let the enemy inform my decisions by his behaviour this explicitly. you ever read the fox and bear fable ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think you take the point, perhaps for lack of familiarity with anaximander.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how any of this is a counter to what i said.
mircea_popescu: i don't get this, you installed it recently ?
phf: mac version of torrent client i use was compromised couple of months ago, "oops we found a ransomware, we don't know how it got there"
mthreat: trinque: it does for $up, but I don't know what command to send for the "verify" command
mircea_popescu: davout i have nfi what you did here. for one thing, shareholders don't get 86, they get 86 + 1% of resolveed bets - 13.37 ☟︎
danielpbarron: and since it's not all-year-round, and since no week is even the same really, i don't really get sick of working
asciilifeform: more still, if you count the 'tax breaks' other usians get (e.g. mortgage) that i don't.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i actually don't have much to choose from. 95+% of work in my field requires usg 'top secret'.
mircea_popescu: ah, but i don';t mean it re germany specifically. could have said france or italy just as well. what i mean is, that a "rule of law" bureaucratic government with an economic presence is strictly speaking the nazi party irrespective of any consideration, chief on the list what they say or think they want. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: once that changes - they'll take it all. and i don't mean houses and cars, i mean blood and livers. they also have a market value.
mircea_popescu: a similar cognitive process would be to say : a) i don't fuck bricks ; b) another exists ; c) therefore, another fucks bricks.
phf: so i don't read hackernews or reddit, they are mentioned here a lot though, so i decided to check if a sale of bitcoin company for 86BTC (damn) is going to get mentioned anywhere. nope. nada.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell davout don't scare-excite me like that next time! (wait, what next time?) also, i wanted to show up here, but couldn't quite meditate and irc atst ☟︎
phf: the person that i was a [big bank] vendor with is actually doing that right now. a trained apl-er and mathematician, having spent few years interacting with [big bank] decision makers now consults on a handshake basis for companies that need a problem solved, but don't care if it comes with a pretty windows gui ☟︎
phf: i don't understand why the point mircea_popescu would be so controversial among compscis here, it's sort of the whole point of numerical analysis
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand.
asciilifeform: i just don't see ANY practical alternative to it
asciilifeform: phf: actually i don't much enjoy ada
mircea_popescu: so i don't have to point out to you that yes it is, "even" "mod" etc.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how it could possibly qualify.
mircea_popescu: oh, don't tell me, i could "save setings online and access them from any browser"
ben_vulpes: i don't...just pointing out the hoops poor d00d had to jump through in order to publish the thing.
ben_vulpes: this is all immaterial. i don't disagree that it's a nifty "all in 1".
asciilifeform: and ftr i don't much care why he did what he did, terry davis wrote quasi-sane os because the devil personally ordered him to in his sleep
mircea_popescu: that has exactly nothing to do. i don't like in that way.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu often says 'i don't deal in counterfactuals', and the principle seems quite in place here - it is not clear to me that a gcc-less 1980s would have led to anything other than a wintel os+compiler monopoly
mircea_popescu: hey could lock, another little room. But the point is that people usually don't bother to think about that. They have the idea: “This room is Mine, I can lock it, to hell with everyone else”, and that is exactly the spirit that we must teach them not to have.
mircea_popescu: i don't think this is a man problem. imo this is a family problem.
phf: but to your genuis of marketing point, not having even a decenarian math within flying distance, i don't really see a way out of that one. guys design their systems for the masses, say as much in public, and yet somehow there's wide adoption, because one has to eat
asciilifeform: i personally don't give half a fuck re folks wanting to use bizarre shitlang with square brackets etc.
phf: mod6: lisp is not always (and not usually) interpreted, i don't think there's anything wrong with targeting jvm, except for the fact that jvm itself is not good
mod6: hey, im just posting this here so we don't lost it -- this is from funk_ iirc, he never sent it to the list -- i'm told that it "works" but have never tested it myself: http://dpaste.com/2WTCSHV.txt
asciilifeform: i don't work with, e.g., ruby, or with people who do.
asciilifeform: i don't give half a shit re what sewer rats do, for so long as it isn't done in my house or where i have to see it.
mircea_popescu: i don't see hospitals using bags of "saline" that come with a "warning : not suitable for use" on them.
mircea_popescu: i don't rightly recall what it was, and i'm not even sure i was yet keeping irc logs at the very early time all this happened.
mircea_popescu: ah. yeah you would. i don't think they can maintain ircd loose network and have it do that.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-06#1446778 << i also agree, i just politely pointed out that the feature is obviously needed, i just don't trust bot part enough yet to put more functionality on it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and yeah, i get the "doc it hurts when i do this" "so don't do it then" thing. but ...
adlai: i don't want to click shit, i want text quoted in weechat without me moving an eyeball.