asciilifeform: it may even already be the case that the cost of a ~proper~ (i.e. non-poisoned) vegetable in usgdom from the specialty shop, counting the multiple taxation (of yer own money, as 'income', of the sale, as state 'sales tax', of the growers', of the landlord's, etc ) layers, equals or exceeds the cost of growing it with own hands in a garden.
asciilifeform: an incidentally interesting bit is that gardens are an 'unprincipled exception' in usgdom just as they were in su. theoretically a garden aficionado owes every 4th tomato or whatever his 'bracket' is, to usg, as tax; things that grow from the ground count, famously, as 'income' -- even if not sold -- per 'wickard v. filburn'☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: hunter doesn't concern himself with every piece of fungus in the forest, he walks in and shoots the tastiest-looking thing he knows how to get a bead on, neh
asciilifeform: well specifically i picture mircea_popescu as moar of a hunter than a farmer
asciilifeform: the saeculum, presided over by various herdemoocracies etc ?
asciilifeform: re peasants -- dim-witted westerners of prev generation ( current ones have nfi and dun give half a shit even if you plug'em into the mains wiring ) thought that somehow communism happened because of malevolent martians landing, rather than from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743681☝︎
asciilifeform: or other selected, exotic beasts. but surely not cow.
asciilifeform: ( from a fantasy-nostalgia song that contained said line , 'Как упоительны в России вечера, Любовь, шампанское, закаты, переулки. Ах, лето красное, забавы и прогулки, Как упоительны в России вечера. Балы, красавицы, лакеи, юнкера, И вальсы Шуберта, и хруст французской б
asciilifeform: back to mr hobo, asciilifeform wonders how much of the peculiar landscape of poorfaggistan is made up of the fact that in many ways to have ~a little~ money is worse than to habitually have none at all
asciilifeform: and yes he could go and make money but then risks ending up as a programmer and whining about shitty kvms and no moar wall to hang lcd etc
asciilifeform: hobo will regularly lose his worldly goodz, but nobody can take his 'knowing how to x without money', i suspect is the idea.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the last jailbird whose starfish wasn't regularly inspected, was herr goring
asciilifeform: where's a hobo, incidentally, to keep money? up his arse ?
asciilifeform: i get the impression that mircea_popescu ended up in more of a 'martian colony' position than he'd like -- stuck importing literally all of the necessities of life
asciilifeform: members of group 'c' presumably have already eaten their pistols. whereas members of groups 'a' and 'b' aren't particularly talkative. ergo the most regularly met with type, is 'd'.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743514 << the 4 possible types of people : a) those who had nfi wtf btc is and still have nfi b) those who bought btc by the trainload at <= 5bux c) who did not, and have no hallucinated defense mechanism in their head d) who did not, and have one☝︎
asciilifeform: ( i for instance have some approximate notion of how many people have an actual rng. the number is not large. )
asciilifeform: turne out, even most supposedly-literate folx dun have what it takes to properly operate own btctron.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743510 << betcha mircea_popescu would conclusively barf long before a thousand, much less 4b, were to show up, with their inevitable and loathesome moan 'unfair! virii stole me coinz', 'my gox stole!' and similar leprosies☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: but linked because there were quite definitely ~somebody~ living in there. ( did not look like what i expect of bums, however. looked like people, of sorts. )
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that the corp nominally still exists : http://www.umt.ro , makes bmw gearboxes or what was it, in some back corner of the massive campus full of ???.☟︎
