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shinohai: Don't drive either, I use taxis :D
shinohai: thestringpuller: I don't have a job other than trb/Qntra
adlai: they don't have to visit your house, but i never said maryland
phf: adlai: i don't actually need it, i have an xl1201, which i bought after i realized asciilifeform is not going to sell his one. but i know at least 3 people that will pay recent ebay prices for it
phf: asciilifeform: last time we talked about i basically got an impression that you don't want to sell it, which has been reconfirmed by this conversation, which is unfortunate since there are people who would actually put it to good use.
adlai: i don't think you sell a lispm door-to-door
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 00:15 trinque: I don't lament that there isn't some opensource naggum editor out there; I lament that I can't spend 20k or w/e and buy an actual computer
adlai: mircea_popescu: amazingly, the last doctor i saw told me that i have two choices: take the meds, or don't... but tell people you're off them
trinque: I don't lament that there isn't some opensource naggum editor out there; I lament that I can't spend 20k or w/e and buy an actual computer ☟︎
mircea_popescu: im just sad i don't have a 9gag account.
trinque: but I don't want to sign onto a talmudic interpretation of WoT-o-tronics, either generally or in this instance
phf: trinque: nah, not ~entire~ wot and not forever. but let's say i give you code under wotgpl, it means that the code has certain propagation properties within wot, and i don't have to negrate you if you abide by a certain set of pre-discussed rules
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except i don't see anyone has an implicit freedom allowing him to review other people's notes.
mircea_popescu: phf i don't think stallman, for all his posturing, was muich in the philosophy department. seriously, ima have a special right to use code ? tell you what - have the inalienable freedom to use weapons, in any manner i deem fit, such as against the us president, and to use the penis, and plates of pasta, and napkin scribblings and anything else.
mircea_popescu: phf i don't see a problem with gpl per se, but i'm not going to enforce it myself.
phf: wouldn't this sort of statements of philosophical position (i don't know a better term) still be effective among the aristoi? there's that idea that u.s. constitution was written for the privileged classes, and that you had to a) be able to write b) own a pen c) own a piece of paper to participate in voting process. or would gpl still be a bad idea if was restricted to in-wot?
mircea_popescu: i don't see value in this. what, there's a universal right to understand ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in any case, while the value of "bright young fellow wants to learn boyer-moore through checking out phf's code" is there ; i'm not about to push you to publish phuctor code for some vague fetishist love of foss. which i don't have.
phf: thestringpuller: and requires extensive training to undo, for example i make sure all my devs have copies of the documentation for relevant code on their machines, and direct their attention to it whenever i can. you'd be surprised™ how many people don't even know where the docs for their framework etc. are
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "copy/paste me but don't ever read me!" << *sigh* In fact this just happened today. Developer tells me, "Hey copy this snipped into the codebase from github". I respond with, "Have you read the code?" They tell me, "Nope. But it works!" So guess who is stuck reading the code...
phf: i don't want to know! it's much nicer when the whole thing's in memory :>
phf: you kind of need to write a graph walker, and since you're doing it in sql, i don't even know how to make it not suck
shinohai: I rather like older tools, don't mod the maintenance. Most tools sold in stores locally are garbage.
mircea_popescu: their fundamental idea that "if i don't swear i'll go to heaven" is entirely built of this stupidium
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492644 << amusingly, judging by the comment count on the official announcement of the latest blunder ("for best results running our fix for the attack - please don't run it at all!"), even 1k total seems exaggerated. ethereum is dead as disco, will take at least 6 months to re-inflate. prolly more like 18. and i somehow doubt the "many years spanned by experience in experience" people have t ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "i gave at the common office, mr exploit, pls don't fuck me."
thestringpuller: I don't see a good scenario where TRB could deploy a fork i.e. "the prequisite".
mircea_popescu: 96." | L4 : "there's no rsa collisions in the wild" ; R4 : "if you don't count the 300 or so phuctor found" and on and on and on it goes in this vein. at this point i do not expect any "common sense" held truth about any network to be any closer to reality than what miss america thinks on the subject.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 10:01 Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. keys - interesting. i don't think i was mitm'd, 13 machines and all, not that it's not possible or anything, and the machines were on the same provider, so, lol, of course possible in principle. but specific mitm's which give working unique keys? hm. but, interesting, i don't have an answer here.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: maybe i did fuck up in some very unique way. don't know. oh and the ip addresses are in random order, so there's that
Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. keys - interesting. i don't think i was mitm'd, 13 machines and all, not that it's not possible or anything, and the machines were on the same provider, so, lol, of course possible in principle. but specific mitm's which give working unique keys? hm. but, interesting, i don't have an answer here. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's vaguely inhuman, this. the scholar in me is constantly opressed by various shits. 1. "oh we don;t alphabet - pdf" 2. "oh you can't reference text snippet" 3. "oh we forget, what was this ? linkrot ?" and i think there's more
trinque: I don't see how it's better than html shat in a folder somewhere
mod6: <+trinque> sometime I could hack another field onto it; I'm not certain I like the thing (or wikis) << I don't love wikis either, but we need a place for quick docs.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you fully appreciate just how braindamaged this "laughing gas of the future" actually is.
thestringpuller: oh. i don't even know if those white kids could even AFFORD to live in the hood.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> everything's is cheap to the folks who already have it. and $maxint for those who don't. << I did not have a pipe wrench yesterday morning and yet $2 got me one before bed time on the same day.
phf: no i don't want yo number no i don't wanna give you mine
Framedragger: i don't give a fuck about "own credibility", lol. i'm here because it's stimulating.
Corsets: That's certainly interesting. I don't know that I do anything illegal enough to hide from the NSA
Corsets: I don't even know what that is
Corsets: The wallet's downloading. I don't have a lot of space
Corsets: And tbh I don't understand the numbers.
Corsets: I've heard of Bitcoin. I don't k ow much about it
mircea_popescu: (and i don't specifically mean his wife, here. i mean everything, the demands "not getting facebook account banned" or w/e, and paying taxes, and not running red lights or pissing on cop's shoes etc. the divine cunt.)
mircea_popescu: how's this different from "i don't accept the premise earth is not at center of world" ?
asciilifeform: i don't accept the premise.
thestringpuller: isn't ironic people say shit like this, but then luke-jr joins the channel to get "support for hardfork". then immediately after being shut down is like "okay guys. they still hate us power rangers. I don't think we should talk about hard forks any time soon, cause it ain't happening"
trinque: I don't think it's apparent from the outside that TX having it's own culture isn't some kind of marketing brand or hashtag
thestringpuller: i just don't want them to add something in a "fork" that allows TMSR to get scammed.
mircea_popescu: i don't see trb should do anything. i also don't see why any sane person would continue dealing with any entity using it.
thestringpuller: mod6: although I don't trust Gmaxwell he has a point here >> https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4o5g3z/how_much_better_is_node_that_no_longer_fully/d49y5j7
Framedragger: yeah i don't know how to classify "general b2b stuff"
mircea_popescu: (also i don't see how anyone seriously imagines hilary stands a chance, but that's another matter)
mircea_popescu: i don't see how the uk is going to have a government other than bnp or w/e they're called this year.
phf: afaik greenarrays don't have shared state and talk through neighbors, connection machine style. i was thinking, like mp said, just have them sit on shared memory
phf: i suspect those guys wear shoes that don't fall apart after three years either
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 02:05 phf: i'm sure you've seen cl-6502, and i think there's a compiler from the same guy (or perhaps cl-6502 has a compiler too i don't quite remember)
phf: i'm sure you've seen cl-6502, and i think there's a compiler from the same guy (or perhaps cl-6502 has a compiler too i don't quite remember) ☟︎
Framedragger: from reddit, "The DAO hacker gives an interview" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5fdMFKEC0 (works for me as i don't understand spanish)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488111 << the guy's defense, notably, "yes it's collecting butterflies - there's nothing wrong with that" is actually tendentious. it's NOT collecting butterflies. yes, it COULD BE, but i don't see any of that happening. just a bunch of "we have butterflies in this black box, come hear about our weight loss ideas" typically ustarded marketing and "engineering" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if they do or if they don't... i dun think they'll notice.
mircea_popescu: well in the sense i don't want to be a woman
mircea_popescu: i don't have a specific conception of wanting to be anything in particular.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't think so; it's from being a chump maybe?
mircea_popescu: but while i don't for a second suspect you of gender politics, nevertheless, there you go, you did it to them. what now.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i don't know shit about making pastries.
diana_coman: it's actually part of why I quickly became disenchanted with the whole AI school (well, all of them really): I don't get why the focus on *always right* when no living intelligence (which is supposedly the model in any case) is *always* right
Framedragger: ..some kind of generic knowledge tree processing thing / semantic systems. someone must have made a small stab at this.. i mean there are natural language processing toolkits which build up context and work beyond straightforward syntax.. i don't know how well they are doing
mircea_popescu: which is why i'm saying, there's not much actionable here. but just because i dunno what to do with it doesn't mean i don't get drunk and dream.
mircea_popescu: and i don't think it is ever acceptable for machine to make shitty rsa keys "because that's what i told it to".
mircea_popescu: MOST of the power of trilema relies on exactly this, that I don't have to IFDEF and DECLARE and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, the "fucking hell who ever heard of a program that wants you to specify what you don't know" essay. i recall it, and imo it is very much substantial to my complaint.
diana_coman: I don't quite follow your analogy there I think
mircea_popescu: i dunno, don't get me wrong, fucking larry drove me nuts, "open door", seriously ?
diana_coman: but I don't consider it a solution, no
diana_coman: asciilifeform> other reason is that most programmers don't write code in the sense that, e.g., mircea_popescu writes essays. instead, they take a shit, and strip away elements of the shit until the compiler is happy and the 'tests' pass. <- fwiw I don't think that those are programmers
hanbot: "ftr when he joined this place, it was purely about business and so was he. later he was wrapping business in propaganda, which is tolerable, as the core is solid. now he is wrapping propaganda in business wrap, at which point it becomes intolerable for any reasonable mind." << i don't, for example, seem to remember the same thing. at all.
Framedragger: yeahyeah the whole weather modelling in the future based on specific chosen parameters and models is hilarious, and gets regurgitated by media etc, i too have general aversion to this; does not mean that all of it is useless but hell if they don't show how they got there then that's even more ridiculous
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. gun shop refused selling to alcoholic wifebeater, he identifies as "journalist" and butthurts all over ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone actually understands stupid people
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't have this luxury. mathematics ~= pdf.
mircea_popescu: both to the helicopter mom that importantly recommends you "be careful" (bitch - be careful IS ALWAUYS TRANSITIVE. if you don't specify the object i'ma slap you)
ascii_deadfiber: the one thing i don't quite get is why drain it to 1 or 2 addrs
mircea_popescu: not so. i actually am one, they don't think i'm a genius. trump .... isn't, let's put it mildly.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone's disputing the average college graduate is useless to everyone and a burden to himself.
mircea_popescu: so... i don't expect much.
thestringpuller: My contact info on linkedin is: "Find me, under nick thestringpuller, in #trilema on Freenode. If you don't know how to use IRC, I more than likely don't want to work for you."
ascii_deadfiber: i don't grasp how 'this tx is valid if $offchainsoup condition is true' is a 'soft' fork.
ascii_deadfiber: i don't pay enough for guaranteed-same-day.
mircea_popescu: but yes i'm sure there's "a limit" put in there by people who don't belong touching computers.
phf: actually i don't think that's right
trinque: I don't feel alive unless I'm rolling around in broken glass
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, romanian redditards found out that mp was also born there, think that "hey, wtf, i don;'t think it can be him. if it were he would be starting a revolution"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485728 << it's a large project and generally not a ripe fruit yet, i don't think, but yes. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 15:23 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485638 << btcbase is deployed using v (not quite fully automatically yet though), and there's all kind of support infrastructure in that folder that i don't want to diff every time, but also don't want to shuffle around
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485638 << btcbase is deployed using v (not quite fully automatically yet though), and there's all kind of support infrastructure in that folder that i don't want to diff every time, but also don't want to shuffle around ☝︎☟︎
thestringpuller: Yea. I don't think it was the version. I think I "broke" my chrome at work.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485426 << i had duck down pillows in boston. you just don't know enough womenz :D ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> i don't even know where the servers are going to go yet. << hey, at least it's no longer "life in an elevator"