Framedragger: asciilifeform: apologies if i am mistaken here, but iirc phuctor was reported to have cracked some pgp keys when at that point in time none of the keys cracked had valid self-sigs. the presentation from tmsr (trilema/phuctor) to me appeared to have overstated the results, so to speak. (but then later subkeys with valid selfsigs were found, iirc). this isn't a technical point, i suppose.

Framedragger: as in, any claims to the contrary (of the power of those results) are attacked with such force that it hints at some kind of defensiveness; but perhaps this is precisely what it means to have a political position.

Framedragger: there is a danger of one presupposing the veracity of their own's truths, but this isn't exactly an original thought or anything; just, well, i *do* observe yourself and alf defending the power of phuctor's results almost a priori as it were;

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hm. no. but i'm not mature enough for this discussion (you may say), e.g. i still harbour ideas about anarchism etc.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and hence my remark was useless, +/-

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i currently refuse to articulate explicit alignments. but, i contend that i should have interpreted that dood's speech on #bitcoin-otc as political speech

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah there's a slippery slope there, i guess.

Framedragger: (maybe it should be done; but again, it appears to be covered by others, incl. qntra)

Framedragger: nono they do not win; but i don't feel like articulating their shit every time it happens

Framedragger: (also, ha, just saw the star wars parallel) ☟︎

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523089 << point of frustration acknowledged; however, ftr it *does* irk me when $empire$ does it; i don't point fingers at *that* here because there's a point of exhaustion and tiredness re. the latter (*not* learned helplessness / acceptance, note), and it appears to be sufficiently covered by others here :) ☝︎

Framedragger: asciilifeform: ok, fair enough, hm

Framedragger: ("random js pgp crap" does not belong in the "(semi)sane software for dealing with openpgp" set)

Framedragger: (not that this makes phuctor any less worthy of a project)

Framedragger: asciilifeform: well, it is true that if you use (semi)sane software for dealing with openpgp, all the diddled keys won't cause a problem for ya. ☟︎

Framedragger: https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/765298072691806209 (credit for finding goes to punkman)

Framedragger: "It takes 4 seconds to generate a colliding 32bit key id on a GPU (using scallion). Key servers do little verification of uploaded keys and allow keys with colliding 32bit ids. Further, GPG uses 32bit key ids throughout its interface and does not warn you when an operation might apply to multiple keys."

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521810 << also see https://evil32.com/ ☝︎☟︎

Framedragger: $s "in the log"

Framedragger: $s hawala

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-13#1520649 && https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4xj6uw/bitcoin_previously_had_all_the_properties_that/d6fwloo && http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-04#1445489 << ...soo, has anyone an idea how hawala-like exchange structures for say bitcoin could be encouraged? i've read and liked http://thestringpuller.com/2016/06/bitcoin-in-wakanda/ which is more of a vision of course.. ☝︎☝︎☟︎☟︎

Framedragger: implied tags will bring us satan, true, but eh

Framedragger: </interjection>

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-14#1521460 << this to me seems to be a confusion between metaphysical and epistemological relativism. "what green is to me" is more to do with the latter, and cannot be used to support full-blown idealism (as in berkeley), or "there are multiple universes", or anything else which has specific *metaphysical* commitments. ☝︎

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log 404's; i assume it's 'cause of the awaited rewrite deployment or somesuch :)

Framedragger: (gun look at logz later)

Framedragger: very nice short scifi story: http://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/the-long-chase/ (discovered via HN, but no matter)

Framedragger: agree, no real diff, `postsoviet block -> usa` streamlined process yay

Framedragger: (so just to be clear it's not ukrainian prosecutors)

Framedragger: "On Wednesday, law enforcement in Poland arrested the alleged owner of the site, 30 year-old Artem Vaulin of Ukraine."

Framedragger: shinohai: re qntra on KAT, wasn't it authorities in poland, not ukraine?

Framedragger: hing like the devil avoids the cross; e.g. the recent chinese wifi shit discussion; *any mobile ever, in existence*; etc. :)

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1505364 << okay; but deciding not to use $tool because it's used by $enemy bloody well sounds like one to me. sure, you can call this a set of (very) useful heuristics. but if this sophistry is accepted, then any ideology is a set of heuristics (usually but not always very bad ones, but the latter is a separate point). ftr though, i'm not saying that sometimes there aren't good reasons for avoiding somet ☝︎☟︎

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506544 << i've a $10 vps, no complaints, i did the initial ipv4 probing off of that. didn't run any i/o etc benchmarks tho. any particular questions (i can run some benchmark if you want) ☝︎☟︎

Framedragger: but i'm not trying to be a big advocate of $x here, mind

Framedragger: or http://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/jrjohansson/scientific-python-lectures/blob/master/Lecture-4-Matplotlib.ipynb

Framedragger: or http://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/masinoa/machine_learning/blob/master/04_Neural_Networks.ipynb

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506547 << well, it's a cheap, dirty, and very quick way of getting repl with $whatever-data-of-interest, functions for graphical plotting, data analysis etc at your fingertips. it's very easy to experiment with data, *save everything and share stuff*. some papers are drafted this way afaik. for example: http://nbviewer.jupyter.org/urls/gist.github.com/wesm/4757075/raw/a72d3450ad4924d0e74fb57c9f62d1d895e ☝︎

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506175 << oh sure, i agree; but it may work for a limited case, as a quick thing; not as a proper stats platform or whatever, god forbid! ☝︎

Framedragger: ben_vulpes' subconscious is tapping into his tty

Framedragger: heh, thanks

Framedragger: as a sworn lisper (well presumably) trinque, what do you make of haskell, out of curiosity?

Framedragger: thought, maybe there's some elephant-in-the-room reason for avoiding it :p

Framedragger: presumably said website would have the raw data as a module or somesuch

Framedragger: wonder what tmsr thinks of ipython notebooks. basically you go to website and are presented with python interpreter, and a ready-made list of commands for graphing, doing stats etc. thinking of doing one of these for some initial ssh keyset analysis. nothing too serious at all ☟︎☟︎

Framedragger: $s jupyter

Framedragger: $s ipython

Framedragger: jurov: elinks loads it fine on ssd but search doesn't work (~works, but notrly). i think i used lynx when looking up stuff on phuctor tho. oh well. :/

Framedragger: asciilifeform: ty, cheers

Framedragger: asciilifeform: "connect with line" you meant actually drawing lines to show clusters, right? sorry for slowness - off to bed soon ☟︎

Framedragger: asciilifeform: aha! hey might as well start with this, sounds good - thanks for the idea

Framedragger: (i mean that's what it is right?)

Framedragger: ah, hilbert curve

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504951 + http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504952 << ah missed this in logs on first read. for the 2d plot, did you mean ip against moduli for the axes? ☝︎☝︎

Framedragger: asciilifeform: so as an example of "given [directory/file] structure, allow sane access"

Framedragger: yeah i have this stupid nostalgia for things of that kind even though i haven't experienced them myself >.<

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: maybe only place having pr0n pics intermixed with latin and greek, say; which is something

Framedragger: i'll be sure to use mongodb, at scale

Framedragger: heh.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: university trying to charge people? interesting.

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1505268 << realistically i'll prolly end up waiting to see what you come up with, to steal good ideas off of you :) ; meanwhile i'll be scripting something more generic, vaporware-y, and less productive (something something federated e2e encrypted forum thing) ☝︎

Framedragger: so i hear, hm. including bulletin boards full of phreakers from australia and all that, i suppose

Framedragger: not bad at all.

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-15#923781 << dafuq ☝︎

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1505197 << (i was prolly too young to ever properly try it in the wild but fwiw it rang a bell to me multiple times when looking at tmsr discussions, yeah. not that it's time to revive it or anything i guess) ☝︎

Framedragger: trinque: no but i agree and won't argue the opposite!

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ah! flask is useful and quick to prototype on, fwiw

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ^

Framedragger: wait, who did? confused

Framedragger: trinque: so many enemies.. flask, too?

Framedragger: asciilifeform: true that

Framedragger hoodwinked by mp's cycles vs iops

Framedragger: trinque: saves lots of time, for one, and quite a bit of redundancy. don't need to manually implement api endpoints etc

Framedragger: trinque: you can *declare* your catalog in said py file, and make $framework build db for you; etc.; but sure, it's still shitty

Framedragger: ... "something is not right"

Framedragger: trinque: well.. eventually they do once you stretch them

Framedragger: dunno but numbers make sense to me

Framedragger: re sane web, there were semi-decent attempts which have made use of. for example, declare db model in python file, make $framework produce a working api over that model, incl implementing all the http methods corresponding to operations (GET, POST, PUT, DELETE)

Framedragger: then.. plz continue :D

Framedragger: won't be fast than ram, what are you smoking :)

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ssd would help much on that machine i'd suspect, if it's really i/o bound, as simplistic as it sounds

Framedragger: but i, too, am interested in taking a stab at a sane implementation, fwiw!

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1505151 << possibly this can be hacked up by putting data into postgres, and then allowing read-only sql access via one of them web-access-to-your-db things. ☝︎

Framedragger: example: 84.177.114.79 (ssh-rsa key from 84.177.114.79 (12 July 2016 extraction)) <sshscan-queries+84.177.114.79@mkj.lt>

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504809 << just fyi the new 1.82M ssh key diff won't have that keyword in there, as i've shortened the comment string, as per various grumblings re this. ☝︎

Framedragger: logging in and resetting boxes via cracked *client* ssh keys could be a thing, though! keys are already retrieved i take it :) http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485892 ☝︎

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504806 << unless someone here has access to some important backbone nodez.. :/ ☝︎

Framedragger: (hm, i'll go thru the ip clustering discussion again tomorrow or thereabouts, interesting stuff and interesting speculation how this came to be. need to find time to do some actual anal-sis and graphing....)

Framedragger: cool stuff

Framedragger: asciilifeform: just curious, is all that beefy server memory actually being used? by either djb gcd or db?

Framedragger: ah it's a separate thing, right right. sorry i'm rambling without knowing / forgetting internals

Framedragger: effective_cache_size e.g. could be set to 75% of total system memory. otherwise - don't want to presume - but it may end up paging the fuck out out of the disk. or other things..

Framedragger: okay, but there are other things; but if it's tuned then fair enough

Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah ok

Framedragger: asciilifeform: postgres defaults are fucking stupid. `shared_buffers`, an important thing when doing sorting, is 32 MiB at default

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1505059 << are you using postgres? if so, advice from someone who has run a (hopefully) decent www+db thing with > 100 GiB of data in postgres: follow https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Tuning_Your_PostgreSQL_Server or equivalent for your db (but i'll swear behind postgres any day). this is normal practice, mind you, not "hax0ring for nosql immigrants" ☝︎

Framedragger: eh i may be back, shit's too interesting :D

Framedragger: asciilifeform: fair enough

Framedragger bike ride before sunset

Framedragger: i meant that i supplied them to you as one key in one file. but yeah kk