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asciilifeform: diana_coman: the sad fact re gnat is that it is in fact the only ada. being as the 'alternatives' are, without exception, closed winturds.
asciilifeform: ('use asm' is not an answer, i want, as diana_coman wants, a PORTABLE proggy )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: how do you propose to rotate without it ? as i see it, the language standard simply has a rotate-shaped hole in it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: interesting, and it still passed the test vectors despite this ??
asciilifeform: diana_coman: elliptic curve cipher
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 11:33 diana_coman: I've been playing around with the keccak implementation from PeterL and it seems overall all right
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 11:33 apeloyee: diana_coman: if keeping the minimum of 2^2047 for primes, you can, for example, generate primes between 2^2047 and 2^2049, and start over if the modulus is unacceptable. not sure what minimum for p and q makes sense.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 18:43 diana_coman: and re peterl's keccak implementation trouble is that thoroughly testing it looks atm as much work as writing a new one in the process anyway so whatever version ends up with tests and everything is the one that will make it into v too I would say
mircea_popescu: diana_coman some bits of code, such as heavily linked against standard hash etc would normally take a zillion reimplementations rereads etc anyways.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so what's your call, rather write as mpi branch or rather stand alone ?
mircea_popescu: ima have diana_coman put the whole eulora crypto in vpatch form even if we're not yet advanced enough with the cleaning of codebase to use v properly.
asciilifeform: diana_coman's item is moar or less the right thing, except that it is impossible to link to individual line
asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what was the result ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman's
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it was made out of pascal
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you can painlessly abolish 99% of where typical cprogramming victim would use a dynamicism, by use of the declare-begin-end construct to allocate statics on the current stackframe
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 11:34 diana_coman: I don't even know whether he tested it or how otherwise; also not sure if there isn't some way around using Strings.Unbounded
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 11:46 diana_coman: that being said, I can't quite see it being any *worse* than this affair with fixed size AND fixed top bits
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 11:33 apeloyee: diana_coman: if keeping the minimum of 2^2047 for primes, you can, for example, generate primes between 2^2047 and 2^2049, and start over if the modulus is unacceptable. not sure what minimum for p and q makes sense.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ikr!
asciilifeform: the other thing, diana_coman , is that if enemy knows that you will never use a p or q below limit l -- he can start bruting from l
asciilifeform: diana_coman: generally speaking, anything one could conceivably walk over, is unsafe - i.e. primes smaller than the number of femtoseconds in a millenium, if i had to give a heuristic
asciilifeform: diana_coman: calculate the probability of fatally small p or q.
asciilifeform: and diana_coman , there is no 'trouble if one is too small', you throw out ~both~ if the test fails
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 11:25 diana_coman: apeloyee, if I understand that correctly basically the only way to plug that leak would be to give up on diddling p and q, including setting size; which would mean just get random pairs of primes until their product fits the desired number of bits for the key; obv this lands into the trouble of having one of them too small
apeloyee: diana_coman: if keeping the minimum of 2^2047 for primes, you can, for example, generate primes between 2^2047 and 2^2049, and start over if the modulus is unacceptable. not sure what minimum for p and q makes sense. ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 20:35 diana_coman: I can't seem to find in the logs any discussion re duplex construction/duplexing the sponge i.e. keccak's authors own proposal of using keccak for authenticated encryption; did anyone look into this?
asciilifeform: afaik diana_coman exhaustively showed the places
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what are you contemplating making ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc it was in the original paper
mircea_popescu: diana_coman never, because 11 * 11 = 1001.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman wanna gimme odds on wer making a working foxybot module ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735893 >> see also of interest re diana_coman's find >> http://lonnberg.mbnet.fi/pl2303x.html ☝︎
asciilifeform: ah lol looks like diana_coman found the wtf
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 14:12 asciilifeform: i can't even tetris no moar, diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 10:14 diana_coman: for the curious there are in fact 2 prolific-stamped documents describing pl2303 and pl2303x; pl2303x seems to be a sort of upgrade to 64bits but why couldn't it be properly identified as distinct I don't know
asciilifeform: diana_coman: that sounds rather like what you would expect, neh
asciilifeform: i can't even tetris no moar, diana_coman ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'll concede that eulora apparently does yield nonzero coin, for someody. but i must also admit that, tho i respect the work of diana_coman , mircea_popescu , et al, i dun particularly digest mmporgs ( or even play much game at all any moar )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is unfortunately quite typical.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 00:58 asciilifeform: it's a pl2303 , ought to work ( though see diana_coman 's recent thread , on certain egregiously braindamaged linuxen there is a bug )
asciilifeform: it's a pl2303 , ought to work ( though see diana_coman 's recent thread , on certain egregiously braindamaged linuxen there is a bug ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: !!pay diana_coman .75
asciilifeform: diana_coman: see thread
deedbot: diana_coman paid danielpbarron invoice 1
a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 23:13 lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-11-04 22:09:48: <diana_coman> danielpbarron, 1 bitcoin please
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-11-04 22:09:48: <diana_coman> danielpbarron, 1 bitcoin please ☟︎
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lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-11-04 22:09:48: <diana_coman> danielpbarron, 1 bitcoin please
danielpbarron: !!invoice diana_coman 1 http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-11-04.log.html#t22:09:48
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i think he meant kB
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> diana_coman iirc the cobra had 80kb ? <- hmmm, iirc 58 keys but I can't say I'm 100% certain
mircea_popescu: diana_coman iirc the cobra had 80kb ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: anything that knows how to eat 115200baud,8,1,noparity -- will eat FG.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: naive orc asciilifeform picked rs232, 1960s-era protocol, because he actually thought 'no one! will have to patch kernel', can you believe.
asciilifeform: this is addressed to all fg users, not diana_coman specifically.
asciilifeform: btw diana_coman didja ever solve the riddle re ubuntu ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman reference to john bradford quote.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman aha! lol.
mircea_popescu: !!pay diana_coman 1.475
mircea_popescu: diana_coman http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qZado/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: diana_coman right.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman is m-r upper-bounded by 1/4 ^ 12 ? or lower ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the folx with custom rsa-bruting silicon , i expect are pissing themselves as we speak
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i expect that you will find the expected 4:1 result then.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wrongly assumed you had fuckgoats output for exponent just same as for key
asciilifeform: defo apeloyee has better reading comprehension. i entirely missed the line where diana_coman clearly wrote, she used 65537
mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you have something idiotic like say ntp correcting your clock mid-stride maybe ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to rule out timer artifacts, can make item that, e.g., carries out 1,000 decrypts, timed with ordinary unix time cmd; then same where 1,000 encrypts
asciilifeform: diana_coman: quite a puzzler then: all of the most obvious mistakes, ruled out
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aite. you will notice that public_rsa mallocs if it finds that the output buffer is same as input
asciilifeform: mod6: what diana_coman has is as close as fathomable to a virginal gpg where you can still make such a test
asciilifeform: diana_coman: is out1 perchance ever equal to out2 ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: didja actually verify the decryptions' equality to the original input to encrypt ?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I don't recall.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman crocodile is too fast for snake.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Immigrant snakes in Florida will die swallowing alligators, but haven't seen anything about crocs
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this looks almost virginal, the oddity is prolly in wherever you invoke it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: not only you have 100fold diff, but ~wrong direction~
asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you have a disk access or some other oops in there, i wunder
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you paste it i can prolly say immediately where.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: does it make sense why asciilifeform went 'wtf, backward' /
asciilifeform: now perhaps diana_coman replaced the thing with mpi_powm( output, input, skey->d, skey->n ) or equiv. -- but then speed of encrypt and decrypt ought to be ~equal~
mod6: diana_coman: nice write up!
asciilifeform: plz consider posting your test harness, diana_coman
asciilifeform: this is pretty neat, diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:26 diana_coman: asciilifeform> and you generally can't make massive reworks <- this yes, though I'd be surprised you wouldn't be able to agree with landlord; more like you'll go nuts trying to get what you want from builders, but that's a different story
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:11 diana_coman: go to public notary, what
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:08 diana_coman: ahahaha; logically it should be, yeah; but re "where to live" - you can buy a house in some village for a few thousands max, not exactly need bank either so dunno that being a huge trouble in itself; then again, each with their own problems to solve
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:04 diana_coman: asciilifeform, not really; former requires someone to go with you and say you can live in their house/flat etc
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:33 diana_coman: I'm sure it's not even the only citizenship for sale for that matter
mircea_popescu: diana_coman they gave it up, and guess what ? it rebounded.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you happen to know the % rate in ro ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hmm srsly you can buy a bldg with a suitcase of moolah in ro ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i can move right now, what i can't do there is have bank acct
asciilifeform: same goes for diana_coman & mpi, keccak, etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:32 diana_coman: asciilifeform, iirc cyprus was selling citizenship and discounting it even; don't quite recall what was the last price though
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 17:52 diana_coman: iirc the "old centre" has been renovated during past few years and it looked ok, but it's relatively small; many of the relics of former glory have either been demolished long time ago or otherwise are left to crumble
asciilifeform: diana_coman: almost reminds me of chicago