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a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 16:33
thestringpuller: PeterL: I asked a friend who blows glass for a living, and he said nowadays it's more expensive
to blow science-ware by hand
than
to get
the mass produced stuff...
PeterL:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524494 << If you want something standard, like a round bottom flask or a condenser,
then yes it is much cheaper
to get mass produced stuff. But sometimes you want something unique, like a round bottom flask with a condenser coming off at a particular angle and connected by a frit
to another chamber and a couple gass line nipples,
then it is much cheaper
to build yourself
☝︎ jurov: *virtual
terrorist cult
mircea_popescu: Framedragger moments of clarity are definitionally momentary ; anyway,
tell him it's a
terrorist organisation.
Framedragger: “Cern does not condone
this
type of spoof, which can give rise
to misunderstandings about
the scientific nature of our work.” bhah
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> it is
the *perfect* make-work machine. << seems an exact description.
mircea_popescu: but
the whole fucking shebang is "feeling like a
trader". hence what
they want is "google infrastructure for
the rest of us". because
totally, google first built
the infrastructure and
THEN was google. not
the other fucking way around, first came up with page rank and
then had
to burn
the cash in some accountant-permissible way
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes quite exactly. a sort of "when soviet army provisions jets, it provisions
tupolevs!" what
the fuck difference does
this make
to wage slave
trying
to get from point a
to point b ?
ben_vulpes: (phf would likely add datomic
to
the list)
ben_vulpes: it is
the *perfect* make-work machine.
ben_vulpes: "aaaaa now we're serving
too much shit from disk, quickly, put cloudfront in so we're not charged egress fees"
ben_vulpes: "oh wait costs in db are escalating, quickly get in
there and learn
the arcane aws-specific optimizations!"
a111: Logged on 2015-08-24 01:51 asciilifeform blew an astonishing bag of usd when ran 'phuctor' on aws - and
this in its mostly-useless and almost-trafficless first year and half of life
ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-24#1249839 <<
the other way of looking at
this is
that "if hosting costs are a serious/worrisome part of your bottom line as a web/mobile app operator either you fucked up and badly on provisioning, or you don't make enough money"
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 01:08 mircea_popescu: basically
the "problem" idiots like paul whatshisface are imagining docker solves is entirely a business construct : idiots gave
their neck away
to "cloud" companies because "it will be cheaper", exactly on
the model
that produced "export jobs
to china"
phf: i'm on board cause we def need
to preserve
the
tumblr content
mircea_popescu: right. obviously something
that will render hello world can be written ad hoc right here ; a standards-compliant renderer is perhaps a decent season project at a middle college (if
they still exist)
phf: i went
through
the whole exercise for my lisp based instapaper clone back in a day, so i have some of
that code around. but it was neither efficient nor reliable (for example, closure html a lisp based html parser fails in all kinds of surprising ways when you
throw random web at it)
mircea_popescu: wasn't a matter of choice ; much like "we'll fart our way
to mars" isn't a matter of choice.
mircea_popescu: the big dark secret nobody in
the "we,
the web community" wants
to mention is
that html5 essentially failed under cognitive load.
they just couldn't do it.
mircea_popescu: the
task of getting html rendering
to work on sanely instrumented platform is ...
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 00:55 shinohai starts work on
the most serene archives ....
phf: ah, i was away during
that discussion and forgot
to comment. i have it in my
todo, but i need
to
testrun before commenting. it's obviously a good idea, i wish we had archive.is in-wot
though
mircea_popescu: as any whore will
tell you, a blowjob doesn't count if you don't make cocksucker eye contact.
mircea_popescu: (an interesting pattern
this - most us made artefacts feverishly defend
themselves against being used in
the one way
they might make economic sense. starting with
the citizenry, which somehow doesn't service arab cock all day.)
mircea_popescu: i'm entirely at a loss as
to what'd it be useful, outside of what Framedragger
tried
to use it for - which it apparently fervently defends itself against using for
mircea_popescu: i know of nothing in nature more resilient
than
the idiot in his idiocy.
mircea_popescu: and
the sort of solution
they contemplate is, of course, wait for it, drumroll.. MORE OF
THE SAME.
mircea_popescu: then once
the
transition was complete and ensconced in culture, it suddenly... wasn't cheaper anymore
mircea_popescu: basically
the "problem" idiots like paul whatshisface are imagining docker solves is entirely a business construct : idiots gave
their neck away
to "cloud" companies because "it will be cheaper", exactly on
the model
that produced "export jobs
to china"
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2015-08-24 01:51 asciilifeform blew an astonishing bag of usd when ran 'phuctor' on aws - and
this in its mostly-useless and almost-trafficless first year and half of life
mircea_popescu: i suppose it makes more sense
than
the dudes who chip in so
that a model version of
themselves bangs some chick on camera...
mircea_popescu: so
this guy ran a kickstarter campaign
to pay for his
trip
to antarctica.
mircea_popescu: be
this as it may ; if it becomes a standard it'll either continue until we figure it out or mysteriously stop.
phf: we just need
to keep asciilifeform away from post 2005
technology
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 22:30 asciilifeform: and has NOTHING in common with
the jpegs or html in mircea_popescu's 32k zip
mircea_popescu: your
tool failed
to break it up into files, just dumped everything into one.
mircea_popescu: i mean... it won't work for alf, but maybe if he needs it a kind soul will unzip
the files for him in
the magic way
mircea_popescu: baring you actually being exciting from writing.. a... browser, i guess,
the solution was
to just archive.is all links and save
the resulting zips
mircea_popescu: nothing specific about paste or otherwise. if i click on a link in an old article by
that marciej dude, it comes out 404. which sucks.
shinohai starts work on
the most serene archives ....
☟︎ phf: of course another option is
to add link downloader,
to btcbase for example, but it's a can of worms,
that i guess i will have
to open..
phf: since ben_vulpes can do
that
phf: right right, so one option was
to scan
the log for all wotpaste's and only preserve
those
mircea_popescu: something should be permanented for having being in
the log, not for having been a paste
mircea_popescu: they're
two not overlapping
tools. not all pastes necessarily end up in log
phf: mircea_popescu: having hard
time finding relevant bits, since
thread diverged many
times. a long standing criticism of dpaste was "all
these pastes are going
to make log not as useful", when ben_vulpes released his wotpaste
there was discussion about expiration and how
to mitigate it. fwiw i don't remember where it went from
there
mircea_popescu: they use polya-vinogradov as an example for how
to get rid of cutoffs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ironically, i am reading
the man's name exactly.
mircea_popescu: not bad. at least
the section on estimations is pretty solid.
mats: fields medal winner's list of patterns he matches against
to solve problems
mircea_popescu: "Nothing about McMurdo improves with proximity. Up close,
the station looks like a cross between an oil refinery and a struggling community college." << now i have what
to link
to when people ask me why i can't be arsed
to antarctica.
ben_vulpes: phf:
tbqh i was considering setting up a
trilema style cookie l2 could get
their hands on
that would keep pastes around
phf: mircea_popescu: oh?
that must've changed since last
time we had conversation about it
mircea_popescu: phf really, saving logged links has ~nothing
to do with
the (imo correct) functionality of pastes expiring
phf: ben_vulpes: i remember
there was functionality
to not expire wotpastes if
they are in
the log. what do you need me
to provide you with in order
to get
that operational again?
mats: after seeing
the annual reports and recent activity, /me ponders buying IEP