asciilifeform: the only conclusion is that its clients became such as: a gesture of submission.

asciilifeform: AG, even in the mechanical rotor-machine days, was publicly, loudly proven to supply thoroughly-pwnable systems.

asciilifeform: #1 supplier of cipher machines to diplomats worldwide...

asciilifeform: or witness 'Crypto AG' - swiss company; founded by best friend of the founder of... nsa. owned by: no one knows, probably usg.

asciilifeform: the chumps, one inescapably concludes, demand to be pwned.

asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/03/welcome-to-fuffland.html

asciilifeform: 'If the victim, at the sight of the economic predator, goes into doggie submission, we must stop discussing the phenomenon in terms of conflict and consider whether what we are observing might be some strange instance of symbiosis.' ☟︎

asciilifeform: there's a fellow who appears to have a good handle on this phenomenon.

asciilifeform: but did rsa 'stop being bridge-builder' to the idiot 'business world' ? nope.

asciilifeform: a while ago, somebody walked off with /all/ the private keys for those fobs

asciilifeform: 'you fuck one goat...' ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'but do they call me bob the bridge-builder?'

asciilifeform: points to another, 'fixed that one last monsoon time'

asciilifeform: villager Bob is visited by a chum of his. Bob points to a bridge, says 'built that there bridge, i did.'

asciilifeform: everyone knows the tale of 'Bob the Bridge-Builder?'

asciilifeform: afaik it was a purely academic demo, never went anywhere.

asciilifeform: the clockless ARM (pretty braindamaged idea, to take a classical cpu and make it clockless, but anyway) had to be designed ad hoc, avoiding industry-standard toolchains. ☟︎

asciilifeform: none of this is a secret.

asciilifeform: they're all geared to traditional (clocked) logic.

asciilifeform: modern chip designers use gnarly layout tools, priced in $seven figures, with run times measured in weeks, winblows, etc

asciilifeform: people built ARM on C-gates. why this is not done routinely, i can answer.

asciilifeform: quite easily

asciilifeform: you end up with a CPU for which you cannot say 'X MHz'

asciilifeform: C-gate is even more of an outrageous animal than ternary

asciilifeform: in principle.

asciilifeform: so propagation delays are no longer a problem

asciilifeform: metastability problem is solved by every gate having a 'inputs are ready' signal as well as inputs

asciilifeform: you dispense with the 'clock'

asciilifeform: asynchronous circuit (people have actually built classical CPUs with these, 1/3 or so the power consumption of ordinary ones)

asciilifeform: ternary also tastes great with Muller (asynchronous) gates.

asciilifeform: using the slack bits for error correction coding.

asciilifeform: i've some logic i wangled together long ago, that maps consumer DRAM into ternary

asciilifeform: but then you want to use off-the-shelf parts...

asciilifeform: one could easily build 'setun' using modern Si chemistry, at negligible cost per se

asciilifeform: that depends.

asciilifeform: take-home lesson is: you get a machine with fewer moving parts - and fewer weird hacks required to make arithmetic go.

asciilifeform: hence the link

asciilifeform: there's worked arithmetic examples in there

asciilifeform: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_ternary

asciilifeform: which naturally mapped to balanced ternary

asciilifeform: the fellow who built Setun was working with ferrite-based (transformer-esque) logic elements

asciilifeform: more complicated than that

asciilifeform: one dispenses with 'n-complement', adders are simpler, and many other things.

asciilifeform: nope. balanced ternary not only packs denser (ideal base is 'e' from that standpoint) but gives considerably simpler circuits.

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: (what i actually suggested was to use 'balanced-ternary', like the russian 'Setun' machine)

asciilifeform: back in '10

asciilifeform: i actually suggested this to curtis

asciilifeform: at least, i personally solved the puzzle by reducing it to SKI

asciilifeform: hence O(n) subtraction.

asciilifeform: where you end up using something equivalent to Church numerals

asciilifeform: nock resolves to SKI combinator calculus.

asciilifeform: this is actually true!

asciilifeform: mation they receive? so, did people really _want_ three-ring binders, or is that just what they could buy?'

asciilifeform: 'what people “want” is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: point. herr naggum's 3-ring-notebooks.

asciilifeform: the consumer demands recycled food, gets recycled food.

asciilifeform: better fortran than 'new for the sake of new.'

asciilifeform: turns 'to the dark side', used evil magic, etc

asciilifeform: legitimate-ish but unsuccessful claimant to the throne.

asciilifeform: critter from 'game of thrones'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these captchas have really fallen through the floor, and i will crib your method when i have a moment of time...

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: wish i knew why they bother to write.

asciilifeform: 'smell of kimchi in the morning.'

asciilifeform: for anybody who still gives a damn re: the urbit wars: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-8475

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390

asciilifeform: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/17/6569b226-6734-11e3-a0b9-249bbb34602c_story.html

asciilifeform: flying Hilbert Hotel?

asciilifeform: bring back fidonet now.

asciilifeform: one thing i occasionally try to convince people off is that: the time to invent the parachute is before, rather than after, being thrown out of the plane

asciilifeform: pre-mined by your local Department of Plenty, naturally.

asciilifeform: 'trade yer TerrorCoins for ReichCoins! you can even pay tax in them.'

asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: much easier would be a crown-imposed altcoin

asciilifeform: and most 'special' of all are the folks who connect to pools... through tor.

asciilifeform: without knowing it.

asciilifeform: you might already be mining for the reich

asciilifeform: how many miners are using authentication of any sort whatsoever

asciilifeform: by 'regulate,' perhaps you mean pwn?

asciilifeform: not for any good reason, but to promote the otherwise forgettable crackpot alt which it would otherwise be

asciilifeform: betcha the first orbiting blockchain gizmo will be hooked to an altchain

asciilifeform: better marscoin.

asciilifeform: wonder when we'll get the lamer circus - 'rsa algo sucks, let's use bozocrypt'

asciilifeform: and where 'somebody' absconded with the treasure chest

asciilifeform: there was the honeypot one that shat out its complete customer list

asciilifeform: 'president buys his coke in a transformer booth at Eastern Market st.'

asciilifeform: 'u.s. missile defense still requires rocket to broadcast its location, at least 1kW loud.'

asciilifeform: 'PALs are still set to code 00000'?

asciilifeform: the riotously funny part: which beans exactly is the general to spill?

asciilifeform: “A tobacco store lady talking about physics in the wee hours of the morning doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me,” Carey told investigators..."

asciilifeform: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/12/19/an_american_nuclear_general_gets_fired_for_booze_fuelled_moscow_bender.html

asciilifeform: implication is that he failed to 'hold his liquor'

asciilifeform: http://www.usatoday.com/story/nation/2013/12/19/maj-gen-michael-carey-nuclear-missiles-alcohol/4131963/ ☟︎

asciilifeform: sure.

asciilifeform: pizzaman1337: hard to say 'best', but there are several which appear to work 'as printed on the box.'

asciilifeform: obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHY8NKj3RKs

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this could by why mswinblows came with 'minesweeper'

asciilifeform: i still find it hilarious how much time people burned playing with that thing.

asciilifeform: you still 'lose at entropy' because now you have clear pattern.

asciilifeform: but you aren't really winning