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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765537 << im just sitting here shaking my head. WTF ALF! talk to the topic! ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765461 << it wasn't supposed to, was it ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765454 << imo disimprovement. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765384 << win. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765282 << there is that. and, as he points out, "lo! i moved!" etc. ☝︎

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-06#1765700 << Danke schön. I'd like to escape the arid esl labyrinth so I've been slowly attempting to lerne Deutsch (still "daycare" level though); this may help to kill two birds with one stone. Looking like Kritik der reinen Vernunft would be my logical starting point ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765278 << teitelbaum gaon sez, excessive virtue still vicious. nothing wrong with a little of whatever now and again, i for that matter drink the occasional cup of coffee and so on. the problem's when it becomes a regular thing, "i am in X circumstance therefore must Y". ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-25#1742992 << the quite memorable lulthread ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765251 << this is so fucking epic. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765236 << no that was the different one, with the microscopy. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765209 << yeah, somehow it became the epicenter of vcritique. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765140 << could trivially point into structure by word count! which is how it was fucking done before you darned kids started skatin' on the sidewalk! my addressing into classical text is paragraph count / word offset. what the FUCK is a line! ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765119 << this is actually the most cogent critique of phalocentrism in computing i ever read. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765100 << this is a gensym in the sense girl you met at butcher's is your true love. why not call gns like sane people. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765095 << there's a certain...ring... to that. "a cuntoo pressing itself". http://78.media.tumblr.com/9307e89967592d33f10d9598fcdbc2ec/tumblr_ndiplotSRF1th0gwho1_1280.jpg ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765066 << this inevitably led to mention of knuth which in turn makes one realize tex existed originally exactly because http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765177 ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765028 << lmao this guy. YOU PUT IT THERE! and moreover... what is the logic of "begins to suspect that ~nobody actually read ch5" when "it survived nearly a week of asciilifeform rereading whole thing every day." ? DID YOU NOT READ IT ? ☝︎

scriba: Logged on 2018-01-05: [19:03:26] <mircea_popescu> as i say -- i see no way out here ; we'll end up with the v-code + blog-commentary ostrich-camel and god help us./

esthlos: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20180105/#802 << I have an intuition that this is missing a higher symmetry. Why not use v for prose documents?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765023 << sadly, not in this language. but otherwise, the german school is the canonical introduction ; read ye yer kant, then proceed to http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=frege (not the other fucking way around ; english is a liability to the thinking man, and the latter's accessibility a burden). ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/rvNE2/?raw=true << for convenience -- who i have so far.

asciilifeform: >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759157 << see also!111 ☝︎

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765599 << I'm not dignifying this shit. ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'Tina Johnson, who first came to public notice for accusing Senate candidate Roy Moore of grabbing her in his office in the early 1990s' << how to parse this sentence ?

shinohai: http://archive.is/A0xiZ <<< How Roy Moore deals with the opposition.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch5_egypt/tree/ffa/ffacalc/ffa_calc.adb#L232 << for reference

a111: Logged on 2018-01-03 17:17 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-03#1763202 << i've been thinking of abolishing the artifact where a 0 stays on the stack after the 'else' branch. it'd require only 1 extra state variable ( a WBool )

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-03#1763210 << once i realized what was going on... ☝︎

mod6: <3

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764988 << good idea. << fwiw, i'll be working on this to ensure that the bug fix is correct. ☝︎

trinque: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-PSP-Disable-Option << totally unrelated, pay no attention

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-14#1555295 << re:. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764988 << good idea. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 15:19 asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/o6uML/?raw=true << he confessed, 'pleabargained'.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764975 << very sad fucking item, i would fire the producer. contains "if he were" boilerplate verbiage copy-pasted in there, for utter shame. ☝︎

mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: afaik this dun actually happen on any known unix << this the rub tho. have to make sure that it actually /NEVER/ happens. i can't have people failing in anyway with this thing.

a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 13:34 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764882 << i'm quite tempted to give the archive another combing and make a sequel to my http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165 item

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764935 << prolly worth it, "re-examine history with new theoretical framework" ☝︎

mircea_popescu: here, from random article : Sorry, furfies looking for group, I guess I fucked this one up for you ((But had you NOT complained about it -- who knows, maybe you'd still have PMs available ?)).\n\nPS. Today as in <A href=http://trilema.com/2014/askfm-laid-bare-or-whats-half-a-million-uniques-to-you/>2014</a>,

mod6: <+ben_vulpes> logs save us from the "but i thought we agreed" floppy meatsack memory. << i feel ya. if you wanna help me dig, that'd be awesome.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-12-25#1353298 << e.g. ☝︎

mod6: <+asciilifeform> second , as in the case discussed in the thread, if a run aborts, it creates a mine for next run to step on. << try to realize that this is on-purpose. im certain that we've had this discussion before and what exists is the outcome of that discussion.

mod6: <+asciilifeform> no good. first of all suppose there are 2 concurrent runs of the vtron ( say this is a cuntoo pressing itself ) << yeah, concurrent runs of my vtron are a no-go.

mod6: asciilifeform picture scene from film 'idiocracy', where hero gets 'his name', 'Not Sure', tattooed on forehead << his arm, but yeah, great movie.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764893 << yeah tis a problem ;/ ☝︎

mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: an aborted run of vtron should not be able to put a caltrop for subsequent run to die on. this is imho elementary.

asciilifeform: https://docs.python.org/2/library/tempfile.html << gory details.

mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: while you're in there can you get your vtron to cleanup its tmp gnupg directory when it catches a ctrl-c? << if you CTRL+C the thing, it really can't get rid of it. you're expected to clean this up on your own so the vtron doesn't remove something it wasn't suppoesd to.

asciilifeform: >> http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch5_egypt#L63 << concretely.

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764971 << porque no?? It isn't like it didn't mean that BEFORE you learned it. Plus, now you got extra layers: "I R SRS BSNS, ANAL!1!" ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 06:21 mircea_popescu: https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3129644482406982@naggum.no.html << this exchange with fare is pretty amusing/informative both wrt "who is this francois-rene rideau character ?" and as an early "bitcoin improvements from the sewer" sampler/potputre.

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764882 << hah, i read it and didn't notice that it was with fare. there's more fare interactions there of similar nature. ☝︎

mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/aj5jZ/?raw=true << this is an experimental only thing!!

asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/o6uML/?raw=true << he confessed, 'pleabargained'. ☟︎

shinohai: "GPS provides several levels of customization, from simple preference dialogs to powerful scripting capability through the Python language" <<< why?

asciilifeform: >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=836 << oblig

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764882 << i'm quite tempted to give the archive another combing and make a sequel to my http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165 item ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764878 << aaah, the prb of emacs ! it lives on, yes ☝︎

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764721 <- so I gather the 80 cols habit won the day for code ☝︎

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764875 <- answered & addressed -> http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/01/04/eucrypt-chapter-4-random-prime-number-generator/#comment-1031 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3129644482406982@naggum.no.html << this exchange with fare is pretty amusing/informative both wrt "who is this francois-rene rideau character ?" and as an early "bitcoin improvements from the sewer" sampler/potputre. ☟︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: "doom is inevitable, BTW. mankind will die out, planet earth will be vaporized when Sol goes nova, if not sooner, and then Common Lisp will have to acknowledge defeat to the unwavering hostility of the universe. for those of us who plan to become immortal, this is a serious concern." <<< 1999 naggum was apparently planning for immortality ?

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> holy hell i lived to see the end of the 4th day of 2018 logs. << ikr!

mircea_popescu: "go and read some basic books" -> "read, re-read <em>and understand</em> TAOCP" ? or what, add K&R in there ? steele's 2002 thing ?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764429 << im impressed you're aware ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733382 << subj. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764363 << possibly should auction the piles. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764342 << cuz i've been mostly the one guy reading her code to date i guess ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 22:30 asciilifeform: 'top 2 bits and bottom bit are ALWAYS 1!' << asciilifeform still doesn't get why to weld the next-to-highest

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764319 << twas exhaustively discussed last time! http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737379 ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764309 << but abstinence only is good for you. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://fakty.ua/187680-esli-vo-vremya-zachistki-slyshish-v-pomecshenii-myaukane-iz-shkafa-ne-otkryvaj-vmeste-s-kotenkom-tam-mozhet-byt-spryatana-granata << collection of similar aphorisms, for dedicated archaeologist.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2012-10-15#-230312 << linked mostly for the bitcoin prices. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764256 << let's leave it at that ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-02#1710096 << see also thread, re concretes ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764246 << this is a very apt commentary on the value of 1bn orcs piled up together. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764245 << suspicious, isn't it ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764241 << see ? three!!1 three secret retorts!! ☝︎

ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=makefiles#1848 << and fuck you if you want to make a command with a name more than 1char longer than "walletpassphrasechange"

mircea_popescu: \t\t\t\t\tcsRef<iMeshWrapperIterator> objectIter = engine->\

mircea_popescu: so you want "\t\t\t\t\tcsRef<iMeshWrapperIterator> objectIter = engine->GetNearbyMeshes(mesh->GetMovable()->GetSectors()->Get(0), oldpos + boundingBox.GetCenter(), boundingBox.GetSize().Norm() * 2);" to be instead

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/time-to-get-out-by-the-way/ << third paragraph, 1st line space is 160% of 2nd line

a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 19:23 ben_vulpes: > i haven't tried this test yet << and you don't know that it only works on the feeble minded, literally anyone else is going to see exactly what you're doing and give the canned response that you want: "the patriarchy keeps women down and what is really called for is demoting and docking mens wages, and promoting science education for little girls, and generally eradicating the constructed gender binary so

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764226 << either that or "either you produce a naked female employee on her knees right this second, or else your fucktarded shenanigans just cost you a 580% salary increase for being a bunch of repugnant scum" ☝︎

mircea_popescu: "intelligence is only a labor-saving device. less intelligent people can in principle create just as elegant solutions, but it would normally take them more effort to get there." <<< ajhaha NO! FUCKING! WAY!

hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763821 << lol "what did you run into?" "an article about rape." oh, THAT one.... about as useful a criterion for a trilema article by now as "has sentences" and "occasionally punctuated" ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 18:58 esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763821 << "Oh really? I never guessed he was an actor. Touche." if only tlp was around...

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764210 << kinda unfortunate he disappeared yeah. ☝︎

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Citations:ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah ' nagl fhtagn ...: <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:ph%2527nglui_mglw%2527nafh_Cthulhu_R%2527lyeh_wgah%2527nagl_fhtagn>; ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah ' nagl fhtagn - Wiktionary: <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ph%2527nglui_mglw%2527nafh_Cthulhu_R%2527lyeh_wgah%2527nagl_fhtagn>; Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah ' nagl fhtagn - (1 more message)

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764188 << why dehyphenate at all ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764187 << yeah, like http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/privilege-linguists.jpg ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764186 << so i dutifully follow, and i duly end up on " I have a new interview question, and you can have it too: "The industry has a gender balance problem. Why is this?" [ed: see postscript]" ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764183 << alan kay is actually not so greatly regarded here ; or at least by me. certainly not his later meta stuff. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> diana_coman: picture, if su survived, you might be designing votingcircuit cpu for e.g. 'buran' << In veintenary switches!

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764095 << scheuristic, ie, the schelling heuristic. like a point, except a heuristic. btw, is the point clear there ? not that "epicycles weren't abolished", but that "the substantial difference between the real item, ie, epicycles, which were so abolished, and the pantsuitology item, ie clothespin, which never existed, is exactly of the nature of defeated-enemy vs defeated-strawman" ? ☝︎

ben_vulpes: > memorly << prett good coinage

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763753 << right, "fascist" is "what pantsuit calls non-pantsuit". ye olde http://trilema.com/2013/racists-and-socialists/ story. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763745 << /me dutifully follows, and duly falls upon "2) What was not implemented until recently was functions returning unconstrained arrays. This is a very tricky thing to do, as I'll describe in a moment. The week before Tri-Ada, I added a temporary, kludgy implementation to GNAT. About the only thing it had to say for itself is that it worked, but it creates serious memory leaks. It ☝︎