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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that'd be 'a lord', rather than 'a crown purportedly acting in the name of all lords'
mircea_popescu: leaving aside that "an italy" would have been utterly horrible, there's no significant difference between these in respects that interest us. neither wanted "a holy roman empire", and so... ☟︎
asciilifeform: at the risk of oversimplification -- washington & co were in favour of setting up 'an england'; j & co -- 'an italy'
mircea_popescu: also, "tmsr style" may be a misnomer. the republic receiving tax from the lords voluntarily is one thing, but there's nowehre in statute or custom where it says lord can't grind into paste any subhuman peons it gets his hands on, to extract whatever he extracts.
mircea_popescu: recall (part of why i even republishedf that) -- hamilton was an original, and originally a lonely, voice in the "to spend -- you MUST first tax" camp.
mircea_popescu: now how is this relating to say hamilton in preference of say monroe ?
asciilifeform: as for whiskey rebellion -- that's when usg first switched to collecting tax forcibly, vs tmsr-style. buncha 'uppity' folx didn't 'get the memo', hanged a few tax collectors, massacred.
mircea_popescu: this is the dark secret of gender disparity : after the deed's done, woman gets more than she expected, and man less.
mircea_popescu: veterans not getting paid what they thought was fair is an absolute part of all war.
asciilifeform: shay's was the start of usg's long and happy tradition of not paying debts when it dun feel like
mircea_popescu: what about them are we considering ?
mircea_popescu: hamilton wasn't doping centralized megastate either. it's unclear what washington wass doing, as also not idea man, but probably ALSO not megastate judging by how if he were, he'd have been the king of united states literally.
mircea_popescu: in this sense the washington monument was the proper government lol
mircea_popescu: so then how can he rep
mircea_popescu: his "ideas" if you can call them that are all sorta broken.
mircea_popescu: who was the proper rep there, jefferson ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose technically roosevelt broke the shattered remains left after monkeyboy lincoln, but still, general idea.
mircea_popescu: the usual mo is this, very strictly antiauthoritarian, "we'll get our own schmuck emperor and then ruin the thing"
asciilifeform: where do i download the client that makes usd exchange rate 1giga ???
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is more complicated. original church was very much republic, much like original us presidency. then the socialistards got roosevelt in and broke it. similarily to how empire meant something, before napoleon.
asciilifeform: 'even if i run the real bitcoin node, my bitcoins price are going to crash. you can try to isolate yourself with that software, but the price is subjected to whats going on outside.'
asciilifeform: quite obviously not proofread / no actual technical whatevers. involved in its making.
asciilifeform: abuse of units, incidentally, if this were an actual spec it would read 'kW/H'
asciilifeform: in terms of separating moneyed idiots from the moolah -- this beats the 'chilean gulch' thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-21 15:10 mircea_popescu: rules to fucking live by, you know, "by the time you feel like you wanna live in a submarine, it's time to gtfo and find a better place."
asciilifeform: in other crackpotteries, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-21#1673058 >> http://www.migaloo-submarines.com << claims to sell 'submersible yachts'. asciilifeform watched the ad film, horrified, thing has WINDOWS ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'You can't escape this garbage, even in the pages of respectable math journals. There are no safe spaces. We are doomed.'
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 14:50 phf: http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Diaries/2017-06.html << “So far as the question I opened with is concerned — "If we tried to use our nukes, would they work?" — I'm guessing the answer is "probably not."”
asciilifeform: ( witness how the early church bureaucrats passed off a vpress of the newtestament as 'the whole thing was always linear' )
mircea_popescu: "and here's the list of necessary steps that lead to it!"
asciilifeform: 'we are the greatest X, we are the greatest Y, nothing like us ever was' (tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: ever since the early seeds of socialism showed up in paris (not so coincidentally, where syphilis also comes from), it's been one great race to re-construct human thought into socialistardation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's for 'feeding' period. vtree is not fit for feeding to passive mouths, fella has to go out an' get it himself, i.e. the original concept of scholarship
mircea_popescu: quite on the contrary. that can be a pretext, if you're willing to eat it. and if not -- others available.
mircea_popescu: it's not for feeding the dullnormal, though.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-06#1679599 << this is implicit to any forced (i.e. for feeding to dullnormal children) linearization of history, which is at the very basic a vtree ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 15:09 mircea_popescu: which is how every god damned kid that was sexually abused through the process of socialist schooling (which is all of them -- education is education, and socialist school is definitionally sexual abuse of all children involved) ends up with the idea that newton sat down TO discover whatever he did (unimportant, really) and THEREFORE he did.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-06#1679600 << the bigger, imho, puzzler, is why they even bother to bring up newton ☝︎
asciilifeform has all sorts of custom strange in his local loop, and this has costs
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf nm, false alarm, problem was on my end
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf didja change something on tehl0gz www recently ? it no longer fits on my displays w/out horizontal scrolling, is a headache
mircea_popescu: in other words -- us schools don't work on purpose, not by accident. and like those, everything else, nukes, embargoes, name it.
mircea_popescu: and if it takes a little incidental mention of the history of thought, fine, just as long as it's a) safely bowdlerized into nonsense and b) really, incidental to the great story.
mircea_popescu: schooling for the purpose of convincing as many unexamining intellects as possible that "in the soviet union kids get icecream". if it takes putting the agitprop mechanism in the middle of the forest cuz that's where the peasants go... well, they'll mount it in a truck.
mircea_popescu: and which is how they end up with all the rest of the dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: what is important is for the kids to end up with the purposes idiocy implanted in their heads. and they do. which is how they end up thinking "modern medicine" has something to do with life expectancy changes. as opposed to sanitation.
asciilifeform: fromloper: who goes there ?
mircea_popescu: the replacement of causes with purposes in this sense is the ONLY point of "school" as the socialists do it. it's uninteresting to understand exactly what the theory of gravity is, says or does, or what a number is, or anything else of that kind
mircea_popescu: which is how every god damned kid that was sexually abused through the process of socialist schooling (which is all of them -- education is education, and socialist school is definitionally sexual abuse of all children involved) ends up with the idea that newton sat down TO discover whatever he did (unimportant, really) and THEREFORE he did. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: the same great lie fundamental to all socialism.
mircea_popescu: revisiting the above "progress" great lie of socialism : just as eg wikipedia parasithizes (see alf/naggum re how this works) the encyclopedia space, turning whatever it can steal into "wearenotbegging for donations", just like github tries to accrete "wild" work into something they can sell down the road to the bezzlevestor, just so school in the socialist state (as designed by trotsky, stealing from bismarck) works also on
mircea_popescu: but by definition, naive early adopters have their own ideas.
mircea_popescu: phf i kept telling the naive early adopter noobs that gifting coin is fucking dumb.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, very fundamentally libertard this "framing" approach, quintessentially what "progress" is all about. here's what happened, now let me hallucinate a string of pseudocauses and outcomes which you can believe in!
phf: nah, a very naive, outsider "somebody gifted me bitcoin, i logged into coinbase recently and the whole experience is a piece of shit, so bitcoin, shmitcoin, whatever"
phf: (although from the same diary page, http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Diaries/2017-06.html#07 entry named "bitcoin bites" is just amusing)
mircea_popescu: next issue of fiat paper will read Ourshit Dun Work instead of the racist/rapist in god we trust bit
mircea_popescu: but anyway, they'll work just as well as everything else in the empire of stupid works. did "ourembargo" work ? sure, in the sense shittington post wrote about how it will, and then promptly forgot it ever happened
mircea_popescu: good thing mp is so wrong about things then!!!1
phf: http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Diaries/2017-06.html << “So far as the question I opened with is concerned — "If we tried to use our nukes, would they work?" — I'm guessing the answer is "probably not."” ☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/minigame-smg-june-2017-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), June 2017 Statement
mircea_popescu: then that can also handle deeding fees, and lo and behold, actual cryptoeconomy
mircea_popescu: the original plan was to tie in payments with deedbot payment system, and im sure that's how it'll work once that bit of infrastructure is ready.
mod6: can i also say that this whole lobbesbot thing is a pretty great model. does auctions, then he collects the fees (monthly?).
mod6: i dunno. just one of those nights i guess.
mircea_popescu: poached the cr soccer coach, it's a thing
mircea_popescu: but anyway, if costa rica enlarges its airport because it gets tons of traffic and it HAS TO, panama will built an even larger one!!!! which nobody really needs wants or uses. but THEY ARE BETTER DAMNIT
mircea_popescu: dunno if you've ever seen this in practice, 2nd born with a huge boner/inferiority complex.
mircea_popescu: teh ticos (costa rican ethnonym) are actually very serious, dedicated people. like shorter, more pleasant californians let's say. the nicaraguans are dorks and the panamanians are all to a man this strange rendition of the frustrated shittier brother.
mircea_popescu: they got it back up same evening. (not universally, nicaragua was still without power the next day for instance)
mircea_popescu: ah, that was 3 hours, then
mod6: maybe i imagined that lol.
mircea_popescu: i think i even mentioned this in the logs at some point. perpetual connections are unsanitary.
mod6: ah, i mean, where the girls were carrying up buckets of water?
mircea_popescu: ah it wasn't the power, i have it set to disconnect at six in the morning deliberately.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 19:56 asciilifeform: idea of pll is that you can indeed see a lit match from mile away in daylight if you know 'exactly when to look'
BingoBoingo: Well, those are used for actually DOING the work
asciilifeform: interestingly, when asciilifeform was a cable runner he had a very cheap but effective similar-looking 'fox and hound' tool. i suspect that these are easier to get right , because the signal injected by the 'fox' is not 60hz and is not pestilentially everywhere in the house
BingoBoingo: Essentially an extortion racket centered around avoiding the healthcare extortion racket
BingoBoingo: No money to be made from Phree wet finger in OSHA "work safety" racket
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> dunno wai this had to be 'modernized'... << Faster!!! For the modern jobsite!!!
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hard to think of a more catastrophically useless tool << There a better an worse variants of this tool. Pretty much only the good ones sell for this reason.
asciilifeform: 'Martin Walker is Banking and Finance Director at the Center for Evidence-Based Management (CEBMa) and produces research for financial consultancy Finadium. He has extensive experience in investment banking IT and operations.... Dresdner Kleinwort and Global Head of Prime Brokerage Technology at RBS Markets. He also held roles at Merrill Lynch and HSBC Global Markets...' etc
asciilifeform: 'Regarding security, resilience, privacy, transparency to regulators. Those rules are generally there for very good reasons that do not simply become irrelevant because the technology changes.' << didjaalsoknow!!
mircea_popescu: fiatards are a fine example of claiming they resolved a problem by conceptual contorsion.
mircea_popescu: as if "Central authority" is EVEN POSSIBLE outside of very temporary, geographically limited arrangements.
asciilifeform: 'if god meant man to bitcoinate, he'dve given'im wings' or how did it go
asciilifeform: 'Perhaps the best example of claiming credit for a problem that did not exist before is Bitcoin. Bitcoin enthusiasts claim it solved the “double spend” problem. A music MP3 can be copied multiple times so how do you stop digital money being spent multiple times? Very simple, you do not create a form of money that lacks a central authority.' << ahahhahaha ☟︎
ben_vulpes: aaand at the crockchain opinion hour: http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2017/07/04/seven-signs-of-over-hyped-fintech/
asciilifeform off to tend to $contents of $crate, bbl.
asciilifeform: dunno wai this had to be 'modernized'...
asciilifeform: ( magnetic, rather than electric )
asciilifeform: i have a prehistoric variant of this tool that worx great, but it has a little ring that opens & clamps around wire
asciilifeform: ( tongue!11 )
asciilifeform: i already have THAT one
mircea_popescu: are you sure you read the manual correctloy ? maybe it's supposed to work after you grab the hot wire.
asciilifeform: possibly delicate balance, between finding it anywhere in the room ( as a poorly made amp will ) and nowhere ☟︎
asciilifeform: is what i thought also!