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mircea_popescu: see, here's the problem : work === "hey mp, here's the genesis & tree for the crypto item eulora needed ; now as to s.nsa's fee...". !work is anything-not-that, including ~very helpful~ side comments.
mircea_popescu: who wrote it is of no consequence, that pointer will be permafixed as NIL.
asciilifeform: as in, the code per se
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 15:19 mircea_popescu: in other items of republican interest : eulora is at a stage where we have to set down what we'll use for sensitive data encryption (such as for instance the privkey files). i don't particularily wish to use aes ; anyone wants to contribute to this emerging spec ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-02#1745676 << if you mean http://trilema.com/2016/btmsr-block-cipher-competition/ the point of it was specifically so as to have a tmsr item to put into http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726131 ; as that failed and we decided to go with serpent, the only possible closure to that offer is that the republic failed to deliver. ☝︎☝︎
phf: i have some idea of how to fix this issue though. for example i can treat characters from certain unicode planes (anything higher than latin-1) as grep
lobbes: As for processing urls 'going forward' I got a bot sitting in chan that snarfs urls as they come and keeps it in a 'to-be-processed' database. Still, having redundant data sources couldn't hurt. I would definitely be interested in url streams
asciilifeform: it isn't as if being buffett is something that were dropped from the sky by malevolent martians on unsuspecting people. it's a thing the 'sufferers' work for decades for, compete with other candidates for politruk ( or for http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-01#1745249 , depending on flavour ) , it is very much a conscious choice ☝︎
mircea_popescu: he takes the sentence "i am rich here as i'd be anywhere ; and i can't buy anything for it here unlike anywhere else" and turns it into "i am rich here because usg made me rich ; and i can't buy anything here or anywhere else because non-usg". whether he verbalizes that "non-usg" as "the most serene republic" or "black people" or "islam" or "patriarchy" or what have you, it's still what it is.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-04#1746199 << because exactly as i say : he assigned universals ("the sun rises in the morning! BECAUSE STALIN!") to the socialist state ; and the very disasters caused by that socialist state to imaginary "everyone else everywhere else". guess what, it WASN'T the terrorists that came busting down the door. it was... the socialists he worked for. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: now, dude married to lawyer and with lawyer daughter, ie, core of the profession, is being "indicted", as if this were even fucking permissible.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, so check out imperial poverty. manafort dude has "homes" ie real estate picassos worth maybe 11mn and loans outstanding worth 12 ? so he is "rich" because he's in the red 1e6 as opposed to poorer plebs only allowed in the red 1e4 or 1e5 ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what they currently lack is the means to actually force anybody to use arsebook etc. but this as i understand is 'being worked on'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if you want conformity your btc can still be cash, the fiat as well as anything else can still be... TANGIBLE assets. http://trilema.com/2013/accounting-for-the-nonzero-asset-corporation-the-mpex-standard/ << it's in there, dunno if it got lost in mists of time. << ah ty, existence of that thing slipped the memory
asciilifeform: re rocket, it is exactly same story as the 'iron dome' idiocy from last yr
asciilifeform: asciilifeform largely making the tune up as he goes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no problem, as long as clearly communicated.
mircea_popescu: if you want conformity your btc can still be cash, the fiat as well as anything else can still be... TANGIBLE assets. http://trilema.com/2013/accounting-for-the-nonzero-asset-corporation-the-mpex-standard/ << it's in there, dunno if it got lost in mists of time.
asciilifeform: 'standard os' could be lived with, as necessary , but 'this 1 d00d makes for us machines' is inviting trouble.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure this guy will actually send you one if you pay him ; as opposed to the other one.
asciilifeform: that kinda thing strikes me as livingdangerously.
asciilifeform: and yes 6 is being forced in via same mechanism as 5, i.e. they are methodically exterminating archives of source that built cleanly without 5, and replacing -- whenever possible, silently -- with new 'improved' .
asciilifeform: it's a multilayered shitsandwich : not only makes 0dayolade substantially easier to write, but as bonus makes ALL old libs no longer link
asciilifeform: (c++11/14/etc.ism is a rather half-hearted attempt to make '70% bugridden reimplementation' of ada, in cpp, as retrofit. iirc we had a thread a few yrs ago re subj)
mircea_popescu: as opposed to when
jurov: "The default C++ language version for applications is now C++14...means, however, that compilers earlier than GCC 6 are masked and not supported for use as a system compiler anymore."
mircea_popescu: but in any case -- ALL PANTSUIT!!! is reduced to a shortcut that is insufficient, and doesn't stand up to investigation. this is in fact so universal in them that it can function as identification. "why do you think X is bad ?" "because it's racist" "but what's that mean ?" "oh puhleaze! do we ~still~ have to ?!?!?!". yes, you do. moreover, https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/07/jezebel_proves_scott_adams_is.html
mircea_popescu: now, it's true we use superglue on skin tears, but it's not true that such nonsense as that described can be a racing toolkit.
mircea_popescu: phf i can't read it like that in the context of the three items that he offers as his tools of the trade.
mircea_popescu: dumb fucking nonsense, a good fit for maybe 1% of cases presented as california magical weight loss cure.
asciilifeform: prolly doomed to become a caste ( in the model of the hindu shit-shoveling-with-bare-hands folx ) , as observed by neal stephenson and others.
phf: asciilifeform: "present as just happened" was unintentional, but otherwise that sounds about right, 2012 publication, hackernews thread is from roughly the same time
asciilifeform: hard to describe the contest as any kind of actual contest after the official usg, err, ibm, blessing of microshit
asciilifeform: speaking here of items that actually stood as competitors, for however long
mircea_popescu: people such as here present will claim that bolix or something like that worked, but i have my reservations. and in any case lispm wasn't "unix", though cathedral alright.
mircea_popescu: phf i don't understand the dating scheme involved. page says august 15, 2012, text refers to 2001 as "13 years ago" (so was it 2014 ?) and you present it as an event that just happened ? which is it ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745812 << afaik this has been resolved as for eg FG original / future bioses etc. ☝︎
asciilifeform: jurov: term is an esrism, referring to items made with fuhrerprinzip; as opposed to amorphous liquishit from herd
phf: apparently he also argues for fits in head as the only proper measure elsewhere, but i can't find the source of quote (possibly person who implied it is a log reader, and just reused the variety speak)
asciilifeform: 'Needless to say, this is more than most programmers would ever want to put up with, even if they had the skill, so the input files for autoconf happen by copy and paste, often hiding behind increasingly bloated standard macros covering "standard tests" such as those mentioned earlier, which look for compatibility problems not seen in the past 20 years'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the seekrit, as i understand, is that they were running a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742441 scheme, but in fact were recruiting folx who already ~had~ 'goodjerbs' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745783 << my read is that he was genuine lee kuan yew, except not nearly as intelligent (nor fortunate) ; eventually collapsed under the pressure of the pointless maggot herd wanting what it wants rather than what it needs aka "democracy". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would standford give a dumb neet as much as a length of string "because they need it" ? let them need from their fucking mother / community college.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745772 << well, yes, as indirection layer above blog comment. nfi why one'd do that instread of just putting the material in a blockquote. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 10:10 mircea_popescu: "investigative" in the sense of "here's half the picture, let's hope together that a) you're not smart enough to understand the elements it's constructed out of are meaningless and b) the areas it doesn't cover are meaningful". basically, the EXACT nonsense as in "wash dc pizzeria scandal"/"#metoo" : free association game.
mircea_popescu: "investigative" in the sense of "here's half the picture, let's hope together that a) you're not smart enough to understand the elements it's constructed out of are meaningless and b) the areas it doesn't cover are meaningful". basically, the EXACT nonsense as in "wash dc pizzeria scandal"/"#metoo" : free association game. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 22:42 mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about, usg.state's main asset in romania looks well headed to jail. kovesi (special "anti-corruption prosecutor") lied about meeting various politicians (as part of usg embassy-directed http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743878 scandal).
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 16:51 mircea_popescu: (this point, in either "intern can progress" or "sit in forum and access meaning" presentation, is the fundamental mechanism of both "rounders" and that "poolhall junkies" cheapo rehack of it : that the dude playing can decide the girl's future, a degree of magnitude above her own capacity. take that away -- it's not worth doing. and you sure as fuck ain't meeting the head of ny law firm socially, and play $X with him so he g
diana_coman: and moreover, that was said in 1898, not as if it's new or anything
diana_coman: well, the *what* it extracts is of course much more telling of what the thing is to start with; as for the reasons there... reason was as far as I understand it "they are better than us because they defeated us", can't say it's obviously "smoke and mirror"
diana_coman: hm, by same token life only ever survives (briefly) as an extraction engine, what of it
mircea_popescu: diana_coman except here's the biter : the "civilized crowds" only ever survives (briefly) as an extraction engine.
mircea_popescu: the dude with fucking options and self-determinations as to who he wants to work with.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter just as recently, some german dork.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless-tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/#comment-123721 << this stupid bitch, can be arsed to spam trilema by hand, can NOT be arsed to read anything. everyone, including the very last hopeless african in the throes of death by innanition imagines th
mircea_popescu: the problem's the 3rd world whore's attitude, as described in that friday piece.
mircea_popescu: nobody in his line of work has EVER made a bitcoin's worth in one year no matter what they did. but does he have enough sense to go... hmmm... i'll treat this as an advance, and use it to finance my supposedly useful work coming back with deliveries worth at least 10x that, because thaty's how useful i am, and see what happens
mircea_popescu: at least when i pour it into the ground, i know what i'm doing with it as i do it.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-09 22:06 asciilifeform: i discovered that mainstream finite field libs are as complicated as they are largely because they insist on growable - and, ergo, heap-allocated - nums.
mircea_popescu: ie, it'd have been nice to have this item done last year as per original discussions. but whatever.
asciilifeform: ( btw nobody yet asked why ffa is now a standalone-built static lib, rather than as before , a set of sources to be simply dropped into other projects. answer is -- binary audit )
diana_coman: uhm; my understanding is that Indices is in essence the type for bit-level indexing; sure some values overlap but you can't have in same fz same number of words as of bits unless wordsize is 1
asciilifeform: 1 .. Indices'Last is simply a way to say 'exactly same as Indices, but 0 is forbidden'
mircea_popescu: the "think of it as heat" mental experiment imo has the great advantage of clearing the mind of all sorts of bizarro world "nsa is cool" assumptions about "electromagnetic signature", a magical property of radiation to "know who its daddy is" or somesuch
asciilifeform: whereas most of what folx think of as traditional radio spectrum, goes around corners, terrain, moar omnidirectional flavour
mircea_popescu: not as it stands.
asciilifeform: it isn't even clear to asciilifeform that there is any such thing known as a good pow
mircea_popescu: anwyay, revisiting an ancient conversation re http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mining+is+a+bug : i have to thoroughly concede this point to asciilifeform . the model is as follows : if a) a PoW system exists in which b) a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others then it NECESSARILY follow that entity can, and therefore it ALSO follows that it eventually will c) impose further con ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: if pointers were permitted -- it could occur in a foo(A, B) when A turns out to point to same thing as B
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lived as zombie for some years, aha
asciilifeform: ( as i understand quite uncommon for them to actually own house or land etc. tho this was an older d00d, possibly -- owned something )
asciilifeform: as i understand it is a traditional punishment in incastans. ye olde su had it.
mircea_popescu: aaand for amateur cryptanalysts, https://fthmb.tqn.com/POA6cGIggoug8OUSU5AFQr2WAsU=/2073x2625/filters:fill%28auto,1%29/Zimmermann_Telegram_as_Received_by_the_German_Ambassador_to_Mexico_-_NARA_-_302025-5827b8ca3df78c6f6a7c945d.jpg
asciilifeform: so as in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-30#1744823 aha ☝︎
asciilifeform: but in usa as mircea_popescu put it 'there COULD have been green beret, but then nope'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in so far as i can tell, having access to actual comp is not necessarily good for a kid
BingoBoingo: 9th grade computer (iMac G3) reintroduced again as "Internet lives here"
BingoBoingo: 7th grade computer reintoduced (Mac Classic I) as "typewriter substitute"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyway, there's a fundamental divide between people whose intuitive understanding of computer is "basically large phone switchboard with robotic switchmaid" and people whose intuitive understanding of computer is "squee! apple drawing thing!" << In sixth grade computer (Apple II) was introduced to class as drawing thing (turtle graphics)
mircea_popescu discovered xor while trying to make z80 gfx as a 7-8-9yo.
ben_vulpes: also known as "enough matlab to make completely convincing fabrications"
mircea_popescu: very much a case of "are you trying to learn how to fly the f-14 on the basis of having been a f-4 pilot, or are you trying to learn how to fly the f-14 because you loved f-14 flight sim on crapple as a teen ?"
diana_coman: as I said: my recent headaches on the topic made this absolutely pop out to me
diana_coman: ofc; but idiotic keccac "reference" implementation goes about reading *bytes* although spec clearly talks of bits and at most of z-dimension long array of bytes and as a consequence madness necessarily ensues
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he has a point though. you need someone as doggedly determined as ceausescu to keep the thing afloat. economic blocs are a reality for what, 50 years now ? euro "common market" was not particularily DESIRED.
mircea_popescu: started as a for profit, for sure.
mircea_popescu: seems unlikely, they;'re marginal as it is.
mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about, usg.state's main asset in romania looks well headed to jail. kovesi (special "anti-corruption prosecutor") lied about meeting various politicians (as part of usg embassy-directed http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743878 scandal). ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: pretty much stock wp, almost exactly as it was in the bush presidency
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it will conveniently double as many things. i will add it to the topic link later today.
mod6: I don't have an ada at my disposal atm. So will do an entire test of the thing tonight and post results as I have them (probably on my site).
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 21:27 mircea_popescu: i looked at thousands of once-there, now deceased sites. pretty depressing as an incidental, facebook made people measurably dumber.
mircea_popescu: i looked at thousands of once-there, now deceased sites. pretty depressing as an incidental, facebook made people measurably dumber. ☟︎
mod6: asciilifeform: you may want to update the link to my V in this blog post (http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545) as it's old. This is the latest (from the foundation site): http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20170317.tar.gz (and corresponding sig file): http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20170317.tar.gz.mod6.sig
mod6: ben_vulpes: you may want to update the link to my V in this blog post (http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system) as it's old. This is the latest: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-March/000260.html ☟︎
mircea_popescu: basically fits half as much on your screen, but leaves plenty of room for writing in things on paper.
asciilifeform: phf: colour is a luxury . for so long as it knows that comments begin with --
asciilifeform: and 1e8 accused folx who are no longer half as intimidated into confession.
asciilifeform: not as if the 'gone by' didn't come with a lengthy list of 'don't do', and various arcana ( e.g. required manual fiddling with fuel mixture, radiator cowling, etc )
mircea_popescu: even in the 90 ie 91, i don't expect a majority of nubile collegiate sluts perceived AS AN OBLIGATION the invitation to whore out for the airmen.