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gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: it should be possible to test them before purchase, right?
gabriel_laddel: "Consider a transistor whose components are themselves transistors, whose components... Electrical engineers desperately woo the third dimension of circuit integration as they pack increasingly denser forests of linearly ordered planar devices onto increasingly larger chips. Perhaps the third dimension need not be height. Perhaps it is one of form, of complexity, of recursive fractal structure wherefrom mystic self-
gabriel_laddel: ;; later tell adlai I was referring to the dataflow paradigm.
gabriel_laddel: As for why a lisper didn't write his own OS from ASM? Well, you've read Stan's blog.
gabriel_laddel: No lisper to date has produced a distro that DOES NOT CHANGE so one may use it as a platform for application development. Lisp solves a well-specified set of problems - ensuring that your algol reproducibly builds is not one of them.
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: Some 'lisper' who 'gets it' will implement a 'lisp' on top of another system and declare that "for such and such political/business reasons, the system we're basing our lisp on won't change its foundations, and therefore we're safe to write code on top of it"
gabriel_laddel: non-CL lispers by-and-large, fail to understand why they're using lisp at all.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: After SMBX died CL had to be re-implemented.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: have you tried reading the OpenGL spec?
gabriel_laddel: It seems like what you're getting at is that the correct order of affairs is to tackle zen first, and then CLIM?
gabriel_laddel: phf: yes, debugging CLIM + zen at the same time is going to suck, but debugging CLIM + xlib sucks, and I have not yet compared the two to find out which is worse.
gabriel_laddel: phf: "because can still attach c program outputs" + "zen doesn't support most of the modern x11 extensions, that you might want for running something like firefox". We have CLIM irc, a listener (repl), an editor, dired + other. I don't particularly want to run c programs. You'd just end up reinventing CLIM anyways after you notice that "gee, it would be nice to have draggable crossbars in my GUI and geometry".
gabriel_laddel: "i've been building my own tools to be essentially a combination of cmucl repl, that spawn xlib windows on demand" << xlib windows that display what exactly? Large GUIs? Renderings of novel structures?
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: "no, no dedicated sales people yet. why do you ask?" < Curiosity.
gabriel_laddel: That said, I've not really poked around the call stack. Could be missing something obvious.
gabriel_laddel: Unfortunately I may need to poke around "under the hood". There are two showstopping bugs in CLIM that crash the connection to the X server, and it is unclear why.
gabriel_laddel: sciencemadness.org is really cool btw, thanks for the link.
gabriel_laddel: phf: I've browsed through it, but didn't find what I was looking for. Perhaps if I state my problem someone will know what I need. The goal is to 'fold' the whole notion of X client / server directly into CL function calls. I would like details of how *exactly* X talks to the hardware (Cee sources, yeah) and a large, obvious table as to what all the error codes / X requests are.
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: Has anyone played around with Zen, the CL X server, or does anyone have links to OLD X documentation / proggies that would be useful for debugging issues deep(?) in the X server / help me understand wtf the X protocol is? I googled around for X docs and found a mess.
gabriel_laddel: Oh, and ben do you have any good reading material re rockets? I'm in the mood for something new.
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: I've tried, a few times now to get a handle on linux and...
gabriel_laddel: idk. sometimes I wish I'd gotten good with a slide rule instead.
gabriel_laddel: In other idle wonderings, has anyone known a cat (the animal) with a cocaine habit?
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: The nice thing about the undeveloped east in Ar is that there's plenty of room for concentration camps.
gabriel_laddel: Heh. Having the first mirror machine and the prospect of automating the install process within arm's reach is a strong motivation to... job hunt.
gabriel_laddel: adlai: if you think computer graphics are in anyway useful -> CLIM. Else, have fun trying to map the notion of a "presentation" to emacs text (see the magit and org-mode sources).
gabriel_laddel: They'll need to "export" the data to .csv, in a button press have an email drafted for them with the attached file using data selected using a slider etc
gabriel_laddel: adlai: imagine for a moment that you're writing a program which abstracts over a lab instrument's controls and does a visualization of the information it reads. The requirement is that people who use it will be intelligent, but not necessarily programmers.
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I said "parenscript" earlier and meant "paredit". Time for coffee.
gabriel_laddel: !s the translator did not miss them, they were not there
gabriel_laddel: CLIMACS (ugh, needs a new name) has "structure editing" facilities, but I've not bound them yet.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I used to use parenscript, but cannot speak to smart parens.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: lol, I've put off learning ternary specifically so I don't end as one of those "homeless math people".
gabriel_laddel: I sunk a lot of time into it (and got it working) only to realize that I don't want to javascript no matter how s-expressiony it is.
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: in other masamune news - I'm working on automating the entire build right now.
gabriel_laddel: trinque: how goes the move-in? I saw that you're still living with family?
gabriel_laddel: phf: sort of related - I put together a new McCLIM website with fancy screenshots
gabriel_laddel: whaack: until I've more resources, you'll have to install on top of a Dell Precision M4400, which you can pick up from anywhere between 80 and 120 usd.
gabriel_laddel: whaack: the masamune respository has not been updated in some time, and many things have changed. I'll be picking up the parts for another machine tomorrow, and will be automating the (currently manual) build process from there.
gabriel_laddel: Well folks, we're 202 days into MP's sustained attack on Stan's identity, and neither side shows signs of tiring. Meanwhile, the cardano languishes on the sidelines...
☟︎☟︎ gabriel_laddel: ;; later tell pete_dushenski regarding your most recent contravex photo - WOW - hot out of 10.
gabriel_laddel: dawwww I'm so curious as to your thoughts on MDMA, cocaine, LSD