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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829041 << mircea_popescu has it , index is the only piece that actually bitrots ( bdb was written by the maliciously retarded ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829030 << hey mod6 is this the same box as in the last coupla similar threads, with the questionable hdd ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 16:14 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828477 << ack, ty for letting me know. I'll try sshing in tonight to rule out webserver failure before I flag down BB to check out the situation manually. (I must say, it is a good feeling knowing that nowhere in this troubleshooting cycle will I need to interface with orcs.)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828740 << so I figured it out: cause of downtime ended up being a flood of tor exit nodes >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/VYVGW/?raw=true ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/cr50_v3.4/chip/g/build.mk#10 << see
asciilifeform: https://github.com/coreboot/chrome-ec/blob/48d6891db8b5b2b0825136f6f9013a110b2a98da/util/signer/create_released_image.sh << moar re the layout of the fw. apologies for l0gz clutter.
asciilifeform: oh , for compleeetness, http://loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/cr50.bin.prod << the 0.3.4 cr50 fw currently installed in my box. ( the offsets above, are valid for it)
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/corod/?raw=true << the RO pubkey. (labels mine, offsets original). does not appear to be posted publicly anywhere. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/t16fl/?raw=true << dump of RW key ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo btw, did you have the common decency of introducing them ? << Was scheduled for next week
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> meanwhile in "i have nfi how this game is played", https://78.media.tumblr.com/86a15e945803ef886f2686209efa7dc5/tumblr_od2ygdgPdj1r1ds4io1_1280.jpg << Maybe massive trade to kill the queens in the G column
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/wallet.cpp?v=makefiles#0957 << next to look at
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ge2OC/?raw=true << the txt crapola, for entomologists strictly
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://cansecwest.com/slides/2017/CSW2017_Enrico_Branca_What_if_encrypted_communications_are_not_as_secure.pdf << yet another faux phuctor
asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/659235CAB1D5C2D6AB2819BD8648B0D5012182DD568D4BE8B222BB7152C5888B << subj.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 18:03 asciilifeform: in other lulz, nobody noticed this puzzler, so i'ma put it in the l0gz : https://archive.li/i7BRf << cr50 magic rsa keys; the montgomery multiplier etc uses hardcoded constant, 96 word ( i.e. 3072 bit ) for the mults, but the keyblobs are 97 , for some strange reason, in size...
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: iirc you've used lbtc in living memory, what heathen abortion did you use to send to the 3addr? << I used my 0.7 fork
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSXJlwjGzHU << apparently still exists!
mircea_popescu: technically different items tho. but anyway, worth finding out >,<
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824857 << recall I said this, but didn't negrate ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/getting-your-messages-out-of-the-shitpile-called-fetlife/ << Trilema - Getting your messages out of the shitpile called Fetlife.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, nobody noticed this puzzler, so i'ma put it in the l0gz : https://archive.li/i7BRf << cr50 magic rsa keys; the montgomery multiplier etc uses hardcoded constant, 96 word ( i.e. 3072 bit ) for the mults, but the keyblobs are 97 , for some strange reason, in size... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828661 << uh oh. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828640 << literally, "Christ, you are as dumb as a sack of dead cats. You&#39;re nothing more than an idiotic little boy with his dick in his hand. How about you drop your dick, because it&#39;s as limp as your sense of humour I&#39;d rather set myself on fire and die screaming than have you touch me...but I&#39;m sure other women have told you that Everything you enjoy, everything you think ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 22:29 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828460 << nor from here. lobbes i suspect that your box is down
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828477 << ack, ty for letting me know. I'll try sshing in tonight to rule out webserver failure before I flag down BB to check out the situation manually. (I must say, it is a good feeling knowing that nowhere in this troubleshooting cycle will I need to interface with orcs.) ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: asciilifeform rated KimuSan^ -1 << i am to understand that usg has control of this privkey.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828645 << iirc great 17th c jesuit crackpot athanasius kircher invented this. he had one for music composition also. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 02:49 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828378 << distinctions like that are often subtle and a matter of taste, but as long as the overal approach is informed now might be a good time to paste what you have.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 21:10 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828348 << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736830 << I see the discussion threads, but didn't find the post on thetarpit.org
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828452 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828567 <-- aite, I'ma post a signed tarball (scheduling this for sunday), along with some comments on the implementation. apologies for the huge delay. ☝︎☝︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828521 << https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/6438 john c mallery (for log readers, current symbolics copyright hoarder) and his main contribution to ai memos ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 17:45 asciilifeform: http://www.retro.co.za/ccc/apple2/paulrsm/6502/INTLST.TXT << woz's much more compact (4kB) float-less basic.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591147 << oblig 80s basic ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 02:49 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828378 << distinctions like that are often subtle and a matter of taste, but as long as the overal approach is informed now might be a good time to paste what you have.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828567 << ideally would be the smallest working 'fits in head' lisp, no frills ( no gc, etc ) ☝︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828378 << distinctions like that are often subtle and a matter of taste, but as long as the overal approach is informed now might be a good time to paste what you have. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828088 << ah ty, i didn't realize that was done on top of shiva ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 04:55 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827945 << "memory optimization" for one thing.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827972 << i was trying to figure out how that would happen on same machine between invocations until i realized that's neither the issue nor what is going on ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://imperiya.by/video/OSHwzlyCAC0/zaderjanyi-zakladchiki-psihotropov.html << shorter, ditto.
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVjUSGHg0ZU << for dedicated entomologist, typical specimens.
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/kC8fJ << picked at ~random.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828522 << quite exactly, very much in the sense of ... damn, where's that discussion in the logs about the idiot who perceives it's more productive to her to say "something new" than something meaningful ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 16:08 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/i1Usl << from same fishwrap >> 'Two members of the US Army National Guard have been convicted of running a credit card fraud scheme involving bitcoin... using bitcoins to purchase stolen credit and debit card numbers... using magnetic strip re-encoding tools to apply stolen numbers to dummy cards, after which they would buy merchandise from Army and Air Force Exchange Service stores at US military bases, as well a
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/06/us-supreme-courts-mentions-but-does-not-influence-bitcoin-covetous-bryer-abuses-language-suggesting-taxman-steal-a-bit-more/ << Qntra - US Supreme Courts Mentions But Does Not Influence Bitcoin Covetous Bryer Abuses Language Suggesting Taxman Steal A Bit More
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828492 << the results are bad in the sense discussed in http://trilema.com/2012/coinurl-a-bitcoin-advertising-service/ / http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-june-2015-statement/#footnote_3_62044 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 22:23 asciilifeform: https://archive.li/cwjsO << vintage lul via the hoare thing. rapee was given... medal.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828472 << quite so. for "her merits". ☝︎
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828479 << nah, not specifically. just not-in-scope. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 21:49 hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828147 << that fucking movie. first, i was pissed off none of the characters were capable of saying ~anything~ of substance about [finance, trading, anything-at-all], then i realized it's an accurate portrayal. still not sure if the thing's deliberately honest or all responsible are so clueless the kitsch was actually supposed to impress.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828463 << in the usual poltronish manner of the place, they'll argue both. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mod6> ok, seems like we only have 1 USB-TTL still available on site. << We have 2
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 21:34 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827686 << cannot hit that URL from here
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828460 << nor from here. lobbes i suspect that your box is down ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/cwjsO << vintage lul via the hoare thing. rapee was given... medal. ☟︎
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828147 << that fucking movie. first, i was pissed off none of the characters were capable of saying ~anything~ of substance about [finance, trading, anything-at-all], then i realized it's an accurate portrayal. still not sure if the thing's deliberately honest or all responsible are so clueless the kitsch was actually supposed to impress. ☝︎☟︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827686 << cannot hit that URL from here ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/19/17480912/github-ice-linkedin-scraping-employees << "no pretty please don't be hunting us down"
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828348 << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736830 << I see the discussion threads, but didn't find the post on thetarpit.org ☝︎☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/wood-impregnated-in-oil-a-metaphor/ << Trilema - Wood impregnated in oil, a metaphor.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 a) why not just sell it to pizarro and b) it's really no rush, end of the month's fine. << thanks for the time horizon. we'll plan on getting the hot-spare racked and going for sure by end of June.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828353 << Sam25218 23F "I think my vagina just made the windows shut down noise. Begone you irksome cockwomble." ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:23 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1738140 <-- ftr, I am following phf's initial advice re. reading lisp in small pieces; this, along with kogge's book. but at snail's pace (code easier to write than read)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:19 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737923 <-- also, spyked's adalisp is missing more fundamental things, such as closures. it's an early prototype, barely usable, but > 0. interning is of course considered, but not added yet. anyway, phf, consider the following point: built-in symbols (car, cons, etc.) still have to point *somewhere*, and that somewhere must not be addressed in a C-machine style! symbols should point to Lisp memory (via
a111: 2018-06-18 <spyked> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-15#1825614 <-- I wonder if dood is still tuned in (maybe read-only? I know I was for more than a coupla years). kinda enjoyed the conversations back in the day.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 17:44 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736892 << some years ago, several people got together and worked through 'an incremental approach to compiler construction', one nick fitzgerald worked through it in ada: https://github.com/fitzgen/ada-scheme
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1737242 << ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:29 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828076 << phf in retrospect tinyscheme plugin was an ill-conceived thing. such item really calls for a troo adatronic scheme thing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828135 << so far the question is whether adascheme or elips. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828282 << asciilifeform very definitely read that piece. but it might have been in the orig ro ☝︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828275 << right. either now or later, you'll have to produce a kernel config suitable for your hardware, and provide that to the build script. and yes, there is the potential that somebody else hasn't yet provided musl patches for your dependencies, though there are more all the time. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 08:55 jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827925 << sent
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827984 << thanks! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828045 << rejects the github implementation of merge, would have been the correct statement. yes you can alter code, but through a very different process, in places exactly opposite. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828036 << this is a major point ; and goes directly to the bifurcation between http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-19#1827317 and http://trilema.com/2009/inchipuiti-va/ (original piece describing a world where things exist by power of mind and how it'd play out). ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827957 << yeah, this dun seem workable. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827714 << roflmao what fucking thrills these guys got. i am starting to suspect i missed out. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827698 << lmao i somehow missed this. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:08 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828005 << the closest we got to a replacement i believe was asciilifeform's shiva, i.e. a tinyscheme embedded into trb runtime. it was suggested as a useful exercise for novices to attempt to expose existing, useful rpc function using it, but there were no takers. at some point the idea of using shiva in prod also went away, because tinyscheme is not necessarily production ready (primarily because of C-ism issues). as
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828076 << phf in retrospect tinyscheme plugin was an ill-conceived thing. such item really calls for a troo adatronic scheme thing. ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but yes, this is how empires die. "yes we're aware this would sail right off if driven through in 3 feet of water, but the car's not rated for driving through 3 feet of water so it's ok." "right, but then the ramp that's not rated for flooding will flood, because etcetera in this vein, and there you are." << AHA, this happened to the plasticar
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828005 << the closest we got to a replacement i believe was asciilifeform's shiva, i.e. a tinyscheme embedded into trb runtime. it was suggested as a useful exercise for novices to attempt to expose existing, useful rpc function using it, but there were no takers. at some point the idea of using shiva in prod also went away, because tinyscheme is not necessarily production ready (primarily because of C-ism issues). as ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827999 << a static mysql would be a thing in and of itself! could go in mp-wp too! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827994 << yes but this won't likely work here ; the dependency tree is like 10x trb's. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 08:34 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827895 <- my (possibly naive) idea was to try first on conventional gentoo by recompiling with musltronic gcc what I need; asciilifeform perhaps knows upfront: would it work to (re-)emerge libs such as zlib and libmysqlclient using the musltronic-gcc?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827977 << 're-emerge' seems to imply systemwide ? you're more or less guaranteed a borked box, muslism has to be done either rotor-style (i.e. 100% user-local build of 1 proggy at a time) or systemwide ( trinque's cuntoo ), on account of the impossibility of cleanly linking glibc libs to musl proggy or vice versa ☝︎☟︎
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827925 << sent ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827889 <- in short because existing machine is production environment, there are limits to doing experiments on it ☝︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827895 <- my (possibly naive) idea was to try first on conventional gentoo by recompiling with musltronic gcc what I need; asciilifeform perhaps knows upfront: would it work to (re-)emerge libs such as zlib and libmysqlclient using the musltronic-gcc? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827945 << "memory optimization" for one thing. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827930 << by now they're so fucking disgusting any form of conversation besides beating them black and blue and urinating on the remains is squarely outta da question. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo seperating << it's sepArating
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/perls-before-swine/ << esthlos - Perls Before Swine
asciilifeform: 'build that iterates over the keys of a Perl hash will have problems, since these elements are also returned in a variable order' << perlism has gotta go.
asciilifeform: 'Unix doesn't specify an order in which readdir() and listdir() should return the contents of a directory, so components can get built in an unpredictable order' << this is gonna need a cure.
asciilifeform: 'Lamb referred to a build that had been made non-reproducible by a 15-digit random number that was generated during each build and baked into the resulting binary. It turned out that it was used as an OpenID secret, which meant that everyone running a given build of the software was using the same secret key.' << genius...
asciilifeform: 'In the tricky middle ground of 95-96%, his position would depend on why builds were non-reproducible, as there are a few valid reasons for this to happen. In response to another question, he said that two good reasons for a non-reproducible build were packages that build inside their own virtual machine, such as Emacs, and security packages with signing keys such as secure boot. ' << lolwaaat
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827727 << can bring up spare chassis with hot-spare for raid array on very short notice, but if you would like to cut over to this machine from your existing one o' ☝︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/06/clinton-through-obama-era-family-separation-policy-ended-by-trump-executive-order/ << Qntra - Clinton Through Obama Era 'Family Separation' Policy Ended By Trump Executive Order