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phf:
gabriel_laddel: probably not enough to be useful, i played with it but ultimately switched to lispwork's capi for projects
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> BingoBoingo: and photos of that agent << The Treasury department's agent's name was Broachwala or some shit. Dot Indian. FBI refused to leave card, but ginger presumably Irish asshole/
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> trinque: unless I'm greatly mistaken, he has a court case for something or other physical and US dept of treasury agents have dropped by his house b/c btc. << I have disorderly conduct misdemeanor pending in neighboring county. Fed visit is on pre-qntra blawg
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: cause maybe he doesn't want to say what got them interested
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> BingoBoingo: The pics would be for our intel systems dude << You don't need an image to recognize broke ass USG Denzel Washington wannabe
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> Facial recognition goes both ways. I could use pics. << Doesn't need to go far. My street has no black residents. My street is a blind loop. One pass could be a common criminal. Multiple people is Law Enforcement.
BingoBoingo:
gabriel_laddel: I drink too much to boat and sail sleeping
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> BingoBoingo: yea, but I thought you were scared of the gangs? << Not just any old gangs, specific kinds
BingoBoingo:
gabriel_laddel: Walk, yes. Cruise, too much for budget given constraints.
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: I am, staying with family while I evaluate where to live
funkenstein_:
gabriel_laddel, hooked on diff-eq-ics! great stuff.
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> asciilifeform: that problem reduces to "why doesn't MP run of with MPEX funds" << Not at all
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> which is to say !s anything made for $20k or so << I dare you to deliver to me a Compact pickup truck in the United States less than 3 years old. The problems are known.
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 09:15:29;
gabriel_laddel: "No Comments Allowed on Reddit’s New News Site ‘Upvoted’"
ben_vulpes:
gabriel_laddel: but i need to render this webview in a microsoft word plugin
assbot: Logged on 10-09-2015 22:32:46; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel plz for to record some interactions with this magical realtime 3d system you've banged together
trinque: had a thread with
gabriel_laddel recently on whether hypertext was even valuable; I hold that it is
trinque: if
gabriel_laddel's is masamune, I guess mine can be "sting"
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel plz for to record some interactions with this magical realtime 3d system you've banged together
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 12:35:42; asciilifeform:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267767 << this is a CATASTROPHICALLY bad idea, because any attempt is simply asking for self-delusionary masamunification (sorry
gabriel_laddel, but you know precisely what i mean.) -- this being, 'aha this is a turd, but WE made it and therefore doesn't stink and is somehow edible'
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 11:41:49; asciilifeform:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267274 <<
gabriel_laddel: you are speaking mostly to folks who haven't grasped lisp. sorta like showing a modern army base to medieval commander - he will not be able to see past it being 'a terrible castle, where the fuck are the walls and moats'
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 04:33:59;
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: because there is a lot of information that needs to be sucked out of the web, and having a 'sharp' blade with which to do this will be quite valuable moving forwards.
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 06:42:51; BingoBoingo: Especially relevant for
gabriel_laddel: "Babbage, even with remarkably generous support for his time, could not produce his great arithmetical machine. His idea was sound enough, but construction and maintenance costs were then too heavy. Had a Pharaoh been given detailed and explicit designs of an automobile, and had he understood them completely, it would have taxed the resources of his kingdom to hav
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 06:35:19;
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: but goddamnit I need interns. I got maxima loaded into my master lisp proc over the weekend and I'm going to play around with that whenever I have free time.
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 06:26:09; mircea_popescu: <
gabriel_laddel> nano sources: Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 21,577 << win. srsly.
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 05:53:02; mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel re "bind *real-eval* to nil" meh. this works in the same sense "provable code" works. in academia.
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 05:04:15; trinque: BingoBoingo: I would say mr
gabriel_laddel has it, that all syntaxes can be done within the lisp system, and simultaneously you find that the vast majority aren't necessary
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 04:57:07;
gabriel_laddel: because you can always "open up" any "structure" and are guaranteed to get more of the same i.e., lisp, i.e., sexprs
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 04:33:59;
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: because there is a lot of information that needs to be sucked out of the web, and having a 'sharp' blade with which to do this will be quite valuable moving forwards.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel Seriously read the Vannevar Bush paper. You are solving too many problems with too few tools. Classic circular saw/Hammer problem.
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> (let* ((mjrcalc-path (qlpp "/lispy/")))... << How exactly to we trust this far before hardware?
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 05:17:33;
gabriel_laddel: "On the historical evidence I shall be short. Carl Friedrich Gauss, the Prince of Mathematicians but also somewhat of a coward, was certainly aware of the fate of Galileo —and could probably have predicted the calumniation of Einstein— when he decided to suppress his discovery of non-Euclidean geometry, thus leaving it to Bolyai and Lobatchewsky to receive the flak. It is probably more illuminati
BingoBoingo: Especially relevant for
gabriel_laddel: "Babbage, even with remarkably generous support for his time, could not produce his great arithmetical machine. His idea was sound enough, but construction and maintenance costs were then too heavy. Had a Pharaoh been given detailed and explicit designs of an automobile, and had he understood them completely, it would have taxed the resources of his kingdom to have fashioned the thousands of
☟︎ ben_vulpes:
gabriel_laddel: are you running Masamune in production?
punkman:
gabriel_laddel: yeah, don't be ted nelson :P
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> whatever, the point is that the structure is available for me to make arbitrary computations against << FYIAD, I don't need structure: I eat, hang, and burn
mircea_popescu: <
gabriel_laddel> nano sources: Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 21,577 << win. srsly.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> "I don't want to see people who cite XYZ" << No who cites XYZ is how you make rope to hang
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> trinque: I have a listing of programs associated with my PGP identity, you can make references to them, and people will be able to see them (or not) based on my trust relationship with them... << It is essential for WoT to exist that I can safely point at the enemy's words and bury them in sulfur
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: so you have your own addressing scheme
trinque:
gabriel_laddel has a CLOS object which represents his number of slithey toves
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> I don't see how you'll be able to reference things on WoTnet further than "the joe I know with this pub key" << Publication. Paper and film only have the problem that they are slow and take too much volume for their information density. Why should machines not offer a path at least as safe.
trinque: mircea_popescu: indeed! I don't think
gabriel_laddel sees what hypertext is
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: you will not have the whole internet on one machine!
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: how do I refer to your CLOS object which represents a paper you have written? I would like to direct people to it from my CLOS object representing a blog post.
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> dunno what I'm missing here << All of the shit you want to hinge on this
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> how many LoC is nano? << a large portion is what those LOC do
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: if I don't know you, I may still want to listen to you for a moment, to see what you're about
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel re "bind *real-eval* to nil" meh. this works in the same sense "provable code" works. in academia.
☟︎ BingoBoingo:
gabriel_laddel: The difference between what you do now and what Mike Hearn does is 2013 and 2015. Mike Hearn knew his mission was to destroy through evangalism. You may no that, you may not but that is still your net effect.
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> mircea_popescu: the people who authored CL thought of your use case. << AND yet you Hearnia around the details
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> mircea_popescu: you're still missing the whole "bind *real-eval* to nil" part of the discussion << FUCK YOU IMMA DRAGON
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 04:51:28; punkman:
gabriel_laddel: I get your point but also, this kinda sounds to me like "don't use math symbols, write it all with the full power of english"
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> trinque: well these are all very good questions, but that's application development. << NO, this is developing separate universes
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> trinque: I don't see how this is a problem? << I am a librarian, a collector. I want to collect information without collecting a bunch of executable rat turds
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: what of gentlemen like BingoBoingo that want to write and link things
trinque: and on the other end,
gabriel_laddel will tell you that's a (small) subset of his lispy metaverse
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 04:35:09;
gabriel_laddel: there is a partially complete js->parenscript transpiler so that you don't have to read js
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: hypertext is a word.
punkman:
gabriel_laddel: well even if you can translate all the worl'ds js to lisp, I still don't want any JS
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: yeah that immediately pissed me off
BingoBoingo: trinque: I am referring to the latter in reference to
gabriel_laddel's assertion javascript should be parsed at all.
BingoBoingo:
gabriel_laddel: But at some point people want to put arbitray string on their own.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> XML syntax is a heinous misstep that affords little, demands much << It is, and When
gabriel_laddel talks massamune unfortunately I read XML or XML with paren
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: sounds very nice
trinque: BingoBoingo: I would say mr
gabriel_laddel has it, that all syntaxes can be done within the lisp system, and simultaneously you find that the vast majority aren't necessary
☟︎ trinque:
gabriel_laddel: not at all; they've already learned more syntax via basic algebra
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: just the bit about how if we don't make all these assumptions about order of operations, and arrange things sensibly, we've got sexps
trinque:
gabriel_laddel: nice "hey look we invented lisp" at the beginning there
BingoBoingo:
gabriel_laddel: No, You don't fucking make XML
punkman:
gabriel_laddel: I haven't because I don't wanna emacs
punkman:
gabriel_laddel: I get your point but also, this kinda sounds to me like "don't use math symbols, write it all with the full power of english"
☟︎ BingoBoingo:
gabriel_laddel: If I want to print pretty papers I don't need, want, or desire turing complete postscript
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> punkman: you lose the full power of the programming language. << In nearly every case a 3rd part gives you code you don't want a full language. You want a plainly crippled language.
BingoBoingo:
gabriel_laddel: You have to understand I am appraoching this as a trained Librarian. Scripting is at best a form of highlighting (never a reason for broswerscript or postscript to be turing complete) Everything else it does is vandalism
BingoBoingo:
gabriel_laddel: A page is a document. Why should anyone other than the user impose any scripts upon the text?
BingoBoingo:
gabriel_laddel: Sharp blades excise tumors like javascript
BingoBoingo: <
gabriel_laddel> Incidentally, improving the browser interface is what I plan on using to punish interns / employees who create DSLs, configuration file formats, non-reader macro syntax extensions... << How is "improving:" and not "killing" the word here
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 23:21:26; trinque: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel Conkeror has made its way into daily use; JS debugging tips? Best thing providing a JS REPL in Emacs?
trinque: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel Conkeror has made its way into daily use; JS debugging tips? Best thing providing a JS REPL in Emacs?
☟︎ mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel come to think about it, you probably want derive source for your masamune thing