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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.0505 = 0.505 BTC [-] {3}
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I'm curious, how much of the usual trade on mpex is done by pyMPEX?
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 709 @ 0.00049979 = 0.3544 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.0005 = 0.125 BTC [+]
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: would be interesting to see, probably could get it from user agent statistics if you have them
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2600 @ 0.0001199 = 0.3117 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC
kakobrekla: >For many different reasons, such as for instance described in IV. Disposal. Also because the wear-levelling optimisation most SSDs natively employ makes it nigh-on impossible to actually delete anything you ever put on them. [?]
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the20year1: So, what kind of exchanges do you all feel most comfortable with?
Duffer1: one with known members of community that have demonstrated trustworthiness over a very long period of time
Duffer1: maaayyybbee ciphertrade when it opens
the20year1: I'm looking at cipertrade, looks good to me
the20year1: I just really would like to get back on an exchange
Duffer1: kate's demonstrated trustworthiness, but competence remains to be seen
mike_c: coinbr is a good place to start
Duffer1: i like that Deprived is on board with that project
Duffer1: wha? he's a founder unless something's changed
Apocalyptic: I bet she likes to advertise it so, for obvious PR reasins
mod6: the blender vid is awesome
the20year1: I just hope that they build a framework, or someone does that won't run into SEC issues
Duffer1: they're going to run into sec issues
Apocalyptic: "the new exchange being developed/run by the Ciphermine team. But we are NOT committed (in the sense of having promised to go there) to it - and, at present, I am not committed to being involved either as part of the operational team for it OR as an investor in it."
the20year1: Not exactly , our attourney says that it's quite possible for them to be SEC compliant
Apocalyptic: sounds pretty clear to me he's not involved in any way, let alone being a "founder" as you say
the20year1: I think 'founders' are more complicated, according to my brother who is involved with the startup in some way
Duffer1: interesting Apoc, the way the ciphertrade thread reads on litecointalk.org they make it sound like he's in on the ground floor
Apocalyptic: fortunately someone here corrected me and linked that post
the20year1: who works with various VC firms and does SEC compliance for said firms
Duffer1: the20year1 if you know someone involved with ciphertrade personally get them to approach lloyd's of london for theft insurance contract
the20year1: I think that's a fantastic idea duffer
the20year1: I'll message my contact and see if they can get a quote
the20year1: i know i'd be willing to chip in for that :D
Apocalyptic: you think they will seriously consider such an offer ?
Duffer1: lloyd's likes new insurance opportunities
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mircea_popescu: <the20year1> Not exactly , our attourney says that it's quite possible for them to be SEC compliant <<< we've gone through this cycle about 20 times already.
mircea_popescu: already ? it's been the talk of the town ever since we started raping the town
KRS|gotyawallet: thats true forgot all that its been good for a while..good point..
mircea_popescu: it's like... o buttcoins are worthless, o buttcoins aren't useful o butcoins are a a scam etc etc.
ruru: let them panick.. my poor buddy sold.. 400+ BTC, got $280k. then.. guess what. Bought back when BTC rebounded. He got fucked bothways by the market
ruru: lost around 57 btc in the process
Duffer1: i can empathize with the scammed, but not those on the losing end of speculation
ruru: it was panic.. Dumped @ low 600s, put a bid @ 600.. then, pulled it for some reason. He wasn't at the right state of mind.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.0030468 = 0.2468 BTC [+]
ruru: as long as this place isn't panicking, i think we're good.
random_cat: i logged into bitfailure and wedontexchange and see the ukto has followed through with the shuffel of assets
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32299756 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 315 @ 0.00049999 = 0.1575 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: guy walks in a bar, asks some other guy "hey, are you an attuney ?" "sure pal" "ok don't you agree i could build an exchange ?" "sure pal"
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 31 @ 0.0077 = 0.2387 BTC
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KRS|gotyawallet: The robot voice in that song makes me imagine a giant doomsday alien robot on armageddon day destroying a city and killing people with laser-ray eyes and explosive charges launching from devices mounted to its hands.
KRS|gotyawallet: having a rather square body and head with smaller but long legs
KRS|gotyawallet: claudioc: anyone wanna donate some coins to me?? i have no way to payoff this 2nd mortgage now... c mon guys u have my money at least let me get 0.1 btc
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00297525 = 2.9753 BTC [+] {7}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1075 @ 0.0028466 = 3.0601 BTC [-] {9}
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gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 762.01529, Best ask: 769.99999, Bid-ask spread: 7.98470, Last trade: 760.23281, 24 hour volume: 48633.24355535, 24 hour low: 653.0001, 24 hour high: 860.0, 24 hour vwap: 745.14452
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00298498 = 0.4119 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1712 @ 0.00011899 = 0.2037 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00049998 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.15249999 = 1.22 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 222 @ 0.00297619 = 0.6607 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00297359 = 0.1427 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 740.0, Best ask: 745.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 745.0, 24 hour volume: 45162.82997989, 24 hour low: 653.0001, 24 hour high: 860.0, 24 hour vwap: 731.95439
mircea_popescu: so if i google sweets for my sweet result #2 is the drifters (black ppl), #3 is the searchers (white people)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10456 @ 0.00078594 = 8.2178 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu, what the heck foo? Keeping the price from reaching pluto
thestringpuller: I think there is a correlation between an exchange's life expectancy and the quality of the "businesses" it IPO's
thestringpuller: Based on this formula, Havelock should be shutting down any day now.
pankkake: I already consider what I have left in havelock as lost
☟︎ pankkake: but really, fuck all this shit
pankkake: also headeaches don't help. but anyway, yeah :(
pankkake: just a general feeling that any of these guys would scam if they could
Apocalyptic: well scammers gonna scam, that's what they do, and in bitcoinland there's a ton of them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6568 @ 0.00011898 = 0.7815 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: with freedom comes the horde of people who misunderstand what freedom is all about.
mircea_popescu: no good reason to care, tbh, their problem, let them fix it.
Apocalyptic: don't expect some random dude opening a bitcointalk post about his service to be legit
mircea_popescu: the cave early behaviour partially to blame. also, the first few years everyone was new by the very definition.
thestringpuller: because they want all the money now without providing any value
mircea_popescu: but take nanotube. he doesn't say much, but was here since before me, and he ain't scamming anyone.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller adolescents generally don't like history.
thestringpuller: unfortunately history can be "modified" after the fact, but I think that is GPG contract's greatest assets
mircea_popescu: i guess so huh. it creates a whole new class of artifact.
pankkake: it's not about issuers. yes, most of them don't care to make their investors whole
pankkake: but even the so-called investors
pankkake: pump the scam to death, praise shitty action because it profits them, etc
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as antyone can call himself an investor...
mircea_popescu: here's an idea : if you dont have a mpex acct youre too poor to be an investor.
thestringpuller: pankkake: you can still profit on that action though even if you're a real investor
thestringpuller: i remember mircea_popescu made some 100 btc off of AM swings
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3129 BTC [+]
pankkake: of course you can. you can even profit from altcoins, so?
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thestringpuller: what'd he do again? he did those passthru's but what happened?
pankkake: just being sloppy then abandonning his PTs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.319067 = 0.9572 BTC [+] {3}
pankkake: the asicminer pt on bitfunder is still a mess
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319002 BTC [-]
pankkake: I know… but I also have TAT in my trust root
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.31900005 = 1.276 BTC [+] {4}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.31900605 = 1.276 BTC [+] {4}
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thestringpuller: what is the best system for public key distribution that enforces validity?
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.31900779 = 1.276 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the system i now use works on the assumption either A or B are famous.
pankkake: well you should only trust the *fingerprint*, no matter how the key is distributed
mircea_popescu: i publish my key. now you know it is in fact mine. you send me yours. now i know it's yours.
pankkake: beware that the small fingerprint you often see can have collisions
thestringpuller: i would assume that the keyservers WoT uses will eventually encompass the bitcoin community that matters no?
thestringpuller: thus as long as the keyserver isn't compromised you can trust the key distribution?
pankkake: it's the first characters of the fingerprint or something? anyway, it shouldn't be relied on, but sadly it is
mircea_popescu: that eventually is misplaced. it originally was the case, back in 2011.
mircea_popescu: then as various ignorant noobs got added that figure they "know shit" and "have businesses" and so on...
mircea_popescu: easiest test in the book. you're not in the wot, you're not to be taken seriously. 5000 reddit votes notwithstanding.
mircea_popescu: j'ai formater mon disque dure et j'ai perdu ma wallet et j'ai que la clé. est ce que je peut recuperer mon bitcoin a partir de la clé
pankkake: I usually say that the only way people learn to backup is by painful experience (like I did :|)
pankkake: bitcoin is going to make it even more painful
pankkake: hehe "unfortunately the activity in the Securities section lately seems to be dominated primarily by one of two things: 1) people trying to recover funds from an old "investment" that was poorly managed or an outright scam, or 2) people trying to attract funds for a new "investment" that is poorly managed or an outright scam"
mircea_popescu: and 3. mpoe-pr going "see here", "fuck you" and "retard"
mircea_popescu: to quote my good friend pankkake, he said : "the only way people learn to backup is by painful experience"
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.32038333 = 3.8446 BTC [+] {4}
pankkake: The United States dollar, a real-life currency created by a group of revolutionaries after overthrowing the local authorities in North America, has almost doubled in value over the last 24 hours.
ozbot: Introducing: The Coinion, Bitcoin's Finest News Source Onion-clone for Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people realise that is actually MORE than what the average senior editor of fortune.com is paid on a per-article basis.
pankkake: depend on how much a 2015 bitcoin is worth
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02700001 = 0.135 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.1525 = 0.915 BTC [+]
jurov: *rubs eyes* who keeps bothering me?
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mircea_popescu: to state it for the record : i will never read a pdf "financial report" of something trying to call itself a bitcoin public company.
mircea_popescu: if you're publishing pdf reportsa that means that 1. you're not part of bitcoin finance and 2. the most you will get is ridicule.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, what's so wrong with pdfs ? except the obvious potential security issues
pankkake: at least it's a report, beats 99% of securities
pankkake: the French say "there are other cats to flog", much better
jurov: thestringpuller pm
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's a good idea to get people used to doing the right thing early.
mircea_popescu: this is a huge fish to skin, in that it costs nothing to establish correct precedent, and it'll be perfectly imossible to fix once a microsoft exists
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.15333333 = 0.46 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: so please, for the love of your own future and for the love of the future of your kids and the young women you fuck and will probably survive you :
nubbins`: even if they have two-inch margins on all sides?
mircea_popescu: and the same princuople goes to the "devteam" retards implememnting pki
☟︎ jurov: send niggers.txt instead
nubbins`: interesting idea, no chip+PIN support and therefore useless
nubbins`: also gotta say i fucking hate this new "endless scroll" type of website
nubbins`: "features don't impress you? how about the new york times logo?"
mircea_popescu: at least some idiots got the "coin" name, that's a relief.
nubbins`: "all your cards. one coin. unless you live outside of the usa, in which case none of your cards."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 18 @ 0.02700001 = 0.486 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.027 = 0.81 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: doesn't come with all the useless shit you'll never use anyway like in debian
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: Gentoo takes too long to install shit on slow computers due to compile source at installation time
pankkake: I know :/ I still run it on a Celeron 500 MHz
pankkake: well it doesn't have many packages and enabled features thankfully :)
Apocalyptic: thestringpuller, you do compile from source on arch too
thestringpuller: i thought pacman just brought in newest packages, and those were compiled remote
pankkake: there is the AUR, which is basically user-contributed builds
pankkake: but for obvious security reasons they aren't allowed to distribute the binaries, only the build instructions
pankkake: it's a good idea, though the quality isn't always there ;)
mircea_popescu: has anyone so far tried to sneak malware in through ascii build ionstructions ?
pankkake: build instructions in documentation, or in scripts? I'm sure most people don't check the build scripts, even from untrusted sources
pankkake: ubuntu PPA look like they're built the right way, user uploads source, but trusted third party builds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00078742 = 4.3702 BTC [+]
pankkake: the source package maybe? and then they sign the binary? this is just guesses, I never did it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 684 @ 0.002956 = 2.0219 BTC [+] {2}
Apocalyptic: "world's finest financial writers" // read our senior editors who have no clue
pankkake: also, that "tulip mania" thing is probably a myth
pankkake: there's only one source ever, no trace of actual losses
ozbot: How much of the legend of the 17th-Century tulipmania is true?
thestringpuller: I write better than this for papers due in school and still get points marked off, yet this gets through the editors?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1805 @ 0.00296756 = 5.3564 BTC [+] {5}
pankkake: it's the same everywhere. it's the planet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00298497 = 0.3045 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: and there are traces. for instance the aggrivied merchants petitioned the court to rule on whether people who bought on promise are liable for the value promised or for the value actual
pankkake: they didn't invent bailouts yet?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the bs is funny. "none of the obsolete people have any idea of why exactly it is they're obsolete"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1217 @ 0.00298611 = 3.6341 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: well fucking duh with pink fringe and a lemon slice on top
pankkake: I'm not that convinced Bitcoin Is The Future. actually, the feeling that is was dominated by 15-year-old gamers with GPUs made me stay away for long (well, I'd be rich if I didn't)
pankkake: but everything that was almost-working is failing
pankkake: I have no doubts that fiat is dead/dying. just doubts about bitcoin surviving it
pankkake: well, the best would be that I try to build something interesting around bitcoin instead of lamenting :)
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.003 = 0.156 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.003 = 0.126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00078742 = 4.0946 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, what are your thoughts about protoshares ?
thestringpuller: Jun 2016: today Ben Bernanke addressed congress, "I have been replaced by a computer network, and am unfortunatley obsolete. I have no idea how this happened but I reccommend the US switch the Bitcoin standard."
ozbot: Bitcoin Enthusiasts Thrilled After Greenspan Calls Bitcoin A 'Bubble' - FakeValley
pankkake: love the "I go all-in on anything he calls a bubble"
pankkake: the best haircut altcoins can buy
KRS1: seren1ty: Fontas punched my wife in the face last night. This morning she pooped bitcoins.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 30 @ 0.0077 = 0.231 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0029995 = 2.9995 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.00299991 = 4.4999 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic nothing good, but too soon to be definite.
thestringpuller: I'm in the middle of processing TU.SILVER holders right now, in fact I just handled a 10 oz and a 40oz redemption (the 40 is shipping out today if the post office is open). No one's silver is missing.
thestringpuller: Just send me a message signed with your public withdrawal address and I'll get back to you. As you can imagine going to the post office 40 or 50 times is a little time consuming with everything else I have to do. Thx ^^
thestringpuller: or you know you could just cash settle the shares by you know liquidating the silver into BTC
pankkake: I like the idea of silver or gold funds, but they don't seem to last long
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 109 @ 0.00299991 = 0.327 BTC [-]
jurov: thestringpuller afaik there were problems caused by exchange rate fluctuations and undelivered packages
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00299908 = 2.9991 BTC [-] {6}
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 35 minutes and 7 seconds ago: <jurov> thestringpuller afaik there were problems caused by exchange rate fluctuations and undelivered packages
mircea_popescu: they kept selling insurance policies to one another and then foregoing on collecting and all sorts of nutty accounting schemes
mircea_popescu: it was a texbook example of, give a kitten a computer, it's going to take a nap on it
ozbot: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00301 = 0.1324 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: because i had some chocklate on my table and i reached for it w/o looking
jcpham: it usually takes me 3 tries to plug in usb
jcpham: all of mine ar just bare pcb's
jcpham: the plastic case always breask
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 25 @ 0.0077 = 0.1925 BTC
thestringpuller: lol on of my buddies just made a storyboard for a nice intro to gpg video
thestringpuller: that states "If you want to enter the crypto currency game, you need to use crypto!"
pankkake: but doing this (risking money just to disprove random guys) tells me it's time to step away from the computer
ozbot: Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett
mircea_popescu: so i guess i'm at least 500 btc ahead of you in that game
mircea_popescu: nah, but pankkake is starting down the glorious path of "here's 0.1 btc says you're fulla shit"
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, is why god created money in the first place.
pankkake: actually I linked for the replies
pankkake: why god created money? so you're satoshi?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: did you ever get any of that deposit back btw mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: the guy, of course, claims he has been making payments, except, of course, to meanies such as me, who wouldn't lie about how he defaulted in the first place.
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, is pretty much the oldest trick in the scambook, try and stack the incentives so that people won't report.
thestringpuller: i wonder what these "bankers" thought they would invest in...
thestringpuller: it feels like people were taking loans to pay loans to pay loans
pankkake: isn't it what people do in the fiat world?
thestringpuller: in the fiat world people take insurance out on a loan default
ozbot: A simple example as to why fiat institutions can’t stand pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: so i got this very dry supposed horse salamy from this weird neoprotestant group that's trying to start a sort of crafts convent
thestringpuller: i think one benefit of GPG contracts in the long run is as bitcoin ages, the barrier of entry into WoT becomes much higher
pankkake: I wouldn't trust any romanian food
pankkake: well I suppose to enter the WoT you'd need older people to vouch you, and to risk a bit of their reputation
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> this shit is so good i'm getting suspicious // horse salamy from Hungaria is the best
thestringpuller: pankkake: exactly, that means 1) you know someone who is reputable IRL and get rated accordingly based on business doings there, or 2) you start from the bottom which will get lower and lower
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 175 @ 0.00301 = 0.5268 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00078841 = 2.3652 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: all scammers seem to do is make the distance between the bottom of the barrel and the truly trustworthy larger to traverse
truffles: chicken breast schnitzel doesnt sound like Romanian origins
pankkake: not that I would ever eat anything from Findus
thestringpuller: but alas there will always be n00bs killed by the woodchipper
nubbins`: can't buy it elsewhere in canada tho
nubbins`: i'm curious to know how it tastes
nubbins`: well. i shouldn't say you "can't buy" it
nubbins`: it's just never available for sale
mircea_popescu: truffles not a matter of origins or w/e, i'm just saying, i give you and a romanian chick 100 euros each, whoever makes the best platter wins.
ozbot: Romanian Food For Supper (recipes included) | Gather
davout: did someone start a french vs. romanian food trell ?
truffles: french win with just desserts imo
davout: french win, there isn't much more to say, romanian food is pretty good though!
davout: pankkake: all the jokes including horse meat and romanians were already made on this thread around a year ago or sthg like that
pankkake: I figured… and I probably did it once already too :/
pankkake: French cuisine is quite generic, south west and south east are already quite different
mircea_popescu: but anyway! romanian > french, strictly because the french agriculture died in the 60s
mircea_popescu: romania is still there. i can go to a peasant house and buy a "hand"smoked ham, or raw milk. it'd be half a mile away
mircea_popescu: you *can* get stuff of comparable quality in france, too
mircea_popescu: it's just a lot more of a hassle and way more expensive.
pankkake: oh, so you won't survive the global collapse anyway
mircea_popescu: yes, i will, because i will fuck their daughters and to appease me they will bring me cheese
truffles: uh dunno what agriculture has to do with who cooks best..
mircea_popescu: truffles you can't be serious. where do you think food comes from.
davout: mircea_popescu: i am interested in this leberwurst you speak of
davout: also as a matter of fact i bring my kid drink raw milk directly from the cow, as in, it's not hard to go on a farm :-)
davout: it might be easier in romania tho
truffles: dunno why the products would be different when comparing, if so dont c why its a problem to obtain
mircea_popescu: davout we have little automated things here, you insert 3 lei and get a liter.
ozbot: Ontario farmer guilty of selling raw milk - Toronto - CBC News
pankkake: I thought this was only banned in US
davout: mircea_popescu: that is cool
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dub: all cops are armed tho rite?
dub: are they going to leave their guns behind for this one job?
truffles: saw video of canadian cops shooting kid on bus..
dub: yeah, not armed here either but in ameristan
truffles: nubbins` what happened to canada!
mircea_popescu: cool and good for the kid and everything, but that cow aint happy there.
nubbins`: truffles: conservative government
davout: mircea_popescu: it's just milking time, maybe you're referring to the really old-school ones where everything's done by hand ?
mircea_popescu: show me one where a girl with nice tits and no bra, red in her cheeks, just hand milked the cow in a bucket.
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davout: does it *have* to be a cow milked in the bucket?
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nubbins`: not sure what taste a plankton diet would put on it tho
dub: so there are food safety standards for a reason
dub: not to rain on a libertarian indignity parade but you can't just sell people shit that might kill them
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nubbins`: in the sense that raw beef isn't bad
truffles: something to do with what they feed em like mad cow?
mircea_popescu: in principle, people should be responsible for what they do.
jurov: wtf? they normally sell raw milk here from a machines, with warning you should cook it
nubbins`: jurov warnings are so european
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure it's the same principle, as this italian company begun merchandising its machinery to farmers all over.
nubbins`: the new world prefers legislation
dub: yeah you can't just warn peopl ein murica
jurov: the warnig is there in red
dub: thats not suitable at all
dub: a) it requires the ability to read
truffles: what if u make it for just ur family dub?
dub: truffles: thats fine
dub: b) the mobility scooter access is in question
nubbins`: i've been on a big tube-meat kick lately
truffles: since we're on safety, what about Bisphenol A !
nubbins`: but health canada sez it's a carcinogen
dub: theres also the thing about how your gut gets used to the shit you put it through
truffles: then it wouldve been banned in US too :p
nubbins`: receipts are still coated in it, but you can't find drink containers made of it anymore
nubbins`: dub, this is why montezuma's revenge only targets whitey
nubbins`: i wonder could i reasonably make salami
nubbins`: i've got a huge chunk of moose in the freezer
truffles: this will suck if BPA is in my alcohol :(
nubbins`: will have more questions about horse salami
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mike_c: mircea_popescu, s.nsa november statement coming soon? i'm curious to see how much r&d cost.
mike_c: ah, nice. a good month to not spend btc :)
jurov: you were bickering about rng whole month?
mircea_popescu: jurov no, but asciilifeform is also independently wealthy, and in an uncharacteristic fashion for btc enterprises we're not charging before stuff actually works.
jurov: wao-ender: who is gonna to forward this convo to slush&stick?
jurov: i like to ruffle their feathers
wao-ender: at thursday I was talking irl to their casing vendor
wao-ender: he is not that.. smiley as they are
mircea_popescu: mind that im not saying this is how all corps should do or anything
jurov: mkay, i'll just remind them to never publish pdf statements
jurov: cuz it's unbitcoinish
pankkake: they'll publish .xlsx statements
pankkake: punch the monkey to see our financials
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pankkake: make every S.MG financial a quest
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nubbins`: .xlsx is preferable because an old version of excel won't open it
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