mircea_popescu: i suppose the proper nomenclature would be "creative people [that never learned any math]", tho the tail's usually omitted.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00060423 = 7.9154 BTC [+]
shinohai: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMFhnqXWgAQ53OJ.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmqdQw )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 242200 @ 0.0001 = 24.22 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: soo, f16 in turkey now huh.
mircea_popescu: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-181800-p-2.html << this shit's just as lulzy as 2 years ago.
assbot: Bitcoin Giveaway [Archive] - Page 2 - Stripper Web Exotic Dancer Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1IAxKdh )
mircea_popescu: "we don't believe in bears because we work on commission for our lively. hood."
mats: meanwhile, to my knowledge, assad still hasn't given approval for strikes against ISIS inside syria
mircea_popescu: they're mostly doing iraq border
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233737 << all these grunt labour slots - now freed up so folks can derp on reddit, aha☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:38:29; punkman: more pics http://www.vintag.es/2015/08/pictures-of-fbis-colossal-fingerprint.html
asciilifeform: (also shows how usg police state was already firmly in place in that period, for anyone who had doubts)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233745 << error: cock visible☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:43:46; shinohai: To fight all that puritanism: https://giant.gfycat.com/FragrantColdHairstreak.webm
asciilifeform: srsly, am i the only straight bloke here or what
mircea_popescu: !up Varia_Varietatis
Varia_Varietatis: hey mircea_popescu working on my gpg now
mircea_popescu: aha ? who're you ?
Varia_Varietatis: Varia_Varietatis who else?
mircea_popescu: mkay
Naphex: xotika.tv referral program is up and available for those interested. 2.5% of the tippings received or sent by users you invite. Everything is tracked real time and available from withdraw from the platform.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your idea of straightness is "have never observed a penis" ?
asciilifeform: mno
Naphex: clients get tracked and the rewards are sticky
mircea_popescu: interdasting Naphex
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform then!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but it means to me that the naked and juicing bits in pr0n ought to belong to females
asciilifeform: but then again that could be just me.
mats: lol
mircea_popescu: (i didn't see the thing in question, for some reason .webm comes out as a string of bits)
asciilifeform: it was an animated gif thing with a cycling cock center stage
mircea_popescu: all this institutionalized misandry.
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: female privilege is never having had your bits rejected for center stageness.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233785 << the usg-connected folks who specialize in bringing'em back in gotta eat !☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:20:17; shinohai: It does tons of good. The same people that get deported are back in < 6 months.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233849 << that was hearn's thing for years now, srsly☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:45:55; shinohai: The blacklisting begins: https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commit/73c9efe74c5cc8faea9c2b2c785a2f5b68aa4c23
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's unclear to me pron can be judged through formal means.
asciilifeform: what is this 'begins.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: subjective, rather than formal; but how many seconds does it take ~you~ to realize that you won't be hardening to a particular pr0n
mircea_popescu: but yeah, the entire xt nonsense exists chiefly as a venue for various nobodies to exercise negative powers they don't actually have.
mircea_popescu: i won't bother looking at just how much this connotes their hunger for my cock, out of respect of asciilifeform's heterosexuality.
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think i ever got a pron erection.
asciilifeform: perhaps they wish to 'chortle on the balls' (tm) (r) ('silicon valley')
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233874 << this is inevitable.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:55:16; mircea_popescu: "add this magnetic strip to your miner and save 3-50% electricity by the refocusing of positron rings"
mircea_popescu: i suspek pron erections work like erections work generally, which is to say, as a learned behaviour. people get erections like dogs salivate, more or less.
asciilifeform: just like the 'deoxygenated copper audiophile cable' and the monumental 'green marker for improving cd audio'
mircea_popescu: you could definitely train someone to get hard at the sight of ears
mircea_popescu: or hair.
mircea_popescu: the former i've actually observed irl.
asciilifeform: more commonly given example is shoes
asciilifeform: but betcha hair works in the land of the chador
mircea_popescu: yeah, very picket-fence-y this one. the usian housewive only wears heels the night she's gonna fuck "the master of the house", and so...
asciilifeform: (and a silhouette of a head is probably enough in the land of burqa)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very amusingly, the arabs a) don'
mircea_popescu: t react to the bare cunt much and b) can't actually draw the female body.
asciilifeform: mega-unsurprise
mircea_popescu: which is a pity because arab sluts have really nice ass/waist combos.
Varia_Varietatis: ;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B
Varia_Varietatis: ;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B
gribble: Error: 'D126595B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
Varia_Varietatis: ;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis 95AD4E4BD126595B
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
asciilifeform: doesn't appear to be in sks
Varia_Varietatis: asciilifeform: how can I add it?
mircea_popescu: "Peer priorities are based on matching the connecting IP against a set of IP groups. For now, the only IP group is one that gives Tor exits a score of -10."
mircea_popescu: fucking retarded, seriously ? bayesian approach ?
mircea_popescu: that particular bit of pseudoscientific nonsense is not dying soon, is it.
asciilifeform: Varia_Varietatis: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-04-2015#1105532☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 11:41:31; mircea_popescu: and then $ gpg --keyserver sks-keyservers.net --send-key <KEYID> and $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key <KEYID> where keyid you just copy from the line above.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck is it so intuitively obvious to stupid people that keeping a list of sins is practicable, useful or desirable.
kakobrekla: Varia_Varietatis it takes some time for key to be visible on sks, apart from that i think you might be hopping the wrong bot
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because they are unable to synthesize
mircea_popescu: so how do they eat ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are the same folks who think that education consists of 'having read many learnedbooks'
mircea_popescu: shit
mircea_popescu: this is how they eat. hence macdonalds and starbucks.
mircea_popescu: omfg.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: see?
mircea_popescu: i think this is the principal stupidity.
mircea_popescu: the belief that sins are an ennumeration.
asciilifeform: not only sins
asciilifeform: they do everything via lookup table
asciilifeform: but more importantly, assume that this is the only possible way anything could be done.
mircea_popescu: sins are the basis of errything
asciilifeform: some supposedly 'intelligent' folks took this to ridiculous heights
asciilifeform: like doug lenat
asciilifeform: who said something like 'cognition is ten thousand if-statements'
mircea_popescu: heh.
asciilifeform: (improvement over the skinnerists, who thought it was... 4 if-statements)
mircea_popescu: the amusing thing to me is that all the libertard anglos read baudrillard, deleuze, lyotard, & co like the dog listens to music.
mircea_popescu: ten thousand if statements is pre fucking saussure ffs.
mircea_popescu: an understanding of things up to the most recent discoveries & bleeding edge of understanding cca 1815
Varia_Varietatis: kakobrekla: Hopping the wrong bot?
mircea_popescu: you want assbot
mircea_popescu: !like so
Varia_Varietatis: !gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis 95AD4E4BD126595B
Varia_Varietatis: like that?
danielpbarron: you don't need your nickname in the query
kakobrekla: !register <full_gpg_keyid>
assbot: Nick kakobrekla is already taken.
danielpbarron: and that doesn't look to be long enough for a fingerprint
kakobrekla: how many asseteers to register a key?
Varia_Varietatis: How can I check if its on the key server yet?
danielpbarron: one way is to get the command right
asciilifeform: !up Varia_Varietatis
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233727 << yes, i had one. no, i can't think of a reason to tear my pockets with it again☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:33:07; mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> there is no reason for '90s bricks. << motorola made them with good enough antenna assemblages you could bash a head in. also the hi q plastics in the casing allowed one to drive mercedes over phone and then use it.
asciilifeform: why not return to the '80s briefcase phone, too
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233729 << and a death ray, '... and a pony'☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:34:45; mircea_popescu: if only ubuntu weren't fucktarded we could recommend it to noobs.
Varia_Varietatis: I put in my full finger print with spaces and without didnt work.
BingoBoingo: !up n6 Tell these kind folks what you accomplished today.
n6: I installed open bsd
n6: thanks to everyone who helped.
BingoBoingo: n6: And you are going to continue consulting the man pages when things go wrong?
n6: Yes, im done with the ubuntu style of copy paste guide.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you had a favourite book re: openbsd i recall ?
asciilifeform: perhaps n6 would like it.
n6: I will be reading that asap
n6: and the unix book you told me about.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "Absolute OpenBSD"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Book also has danielpbarron's endorsement
danielpbarron: yes, and OpenBSD is very easy to install
danielpbarron: almost a joy
n6: got gentoo installed only to lose my lsub, and have my ethernet router stepped on in such a way all 4 ports went out.
n6: Couldn't recover after that.
BingoBoingo: Just remember OpenBSD still contains plenty of ways to hang yourself. On the plus side almost all of them are very well documented.
Varia_Varietatis: I still can't seem to join the wot. putting in my full keyid 95AD4E4BD126595B
mircea_popescu: that's half a keyid.
mircea_popescu: mine's 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 not 76998A736F0E2FB7B452
Varia_Varietatis: How do I get that out of gpg?
mircea_popescu: --fingerprint
mircea_popescu: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x95AD4E4BD126595B << and you're on sks alright.
assbot: Public Key Server -- Get "0x95ad4e4bd126595b " ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmBz76 )
Varia_Varietatis: got it
asciilifeform back, was playing with his first proper crusscut shredder
asciilifeform: *crosscut
asciilifeform: thing claims to cut disks, even.
Varia_Varietatis: ;;gpg eauth Varia_Varietatis
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
Varia_Varietatis: ;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B
gribble: Error: 'D126595B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
mircea_popescu: wrong bot still.
danielpbarron: Varia_Varietatis, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1102946☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 02:56:31; jayk: !register 7AA64CBF8362275B2189869784A13BE284D27F50
Varia_Varietatis: danielpbarron, Already did that in pm trying to auth now.
danielpbarron: do it in here
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I had a cheap crosscut machine that experience the general mysterious "stopped working" failure mode most consumer products from walmart do.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the eventual fate of all things
danielpbarron: !gettrust Varia_Varietatis
assbot: Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user Varia_Varietatis: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=danielpbarron&to=Varia_Varietatis | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Varia_Varietatis/
danielpbarron: ah, you are registered. Now type /msg assbot !up
asciilifeform: pretty sure that all shredders other than perhaps petrol-powered 'enron'-grade units, will croak after a thousand pgs or so
Varia_Varietatis: Need a better rating.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ah.
danielpbarron: Varia_Varietatis, that's your next step then :D
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: doesn't hurt to oil the thing, also.
asciilifeform: like any other cutting tool
Varia_Varietatis: ;;rate BingoBoingo should have better read his gpg guides.
gribble: Error: 'should' is not a valid integer.
BingoBoingo: Of course.
Varia_Varietatis: ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 should have better read his gpg guides.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
BingoBoingo: Varia_Varietatis: Oh, that one's outdated as far as bot registration for this channel goes
asciilifeform: still using wrong bot
asciilifeform: Varia_Varietatis: gribble is no longer used here
Varia_Varietatis: !rate BingoBoingo 1 should have read his gpg guides better.
assbot: You must be rated before you can rate.
Varia_Varietatis: So now what?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my tm shredder cut ~78k pages. electric. diamond blades.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spiffy
asciilifeform: if i had 78k pgs in one crate, would probably just burn'em
mircea_popescu: if you recall, i burned the shreds.
BingoBoingo: Varia_Varietatis: Do any of us know you from anywhere? Forgive me. My memory is imperfect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, yes!
Varia_Varietatis: I used to be n6 but lost my key.
mircea_popescu: sop. at least in civilised circles.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to burn the confetti from this one. on account of every other snail mail envelope containing an unsolicited plastic bank card
n6: here I am two places at once
BingoBoingo: !rate Varia_Varietatis 1 New, Ambitious, reading man pages
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f144d627770cc7cd
asciilifeform: 'borrow 500k! you know you wanna!!1111!!11'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are pestilential here
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hence why even the lowliest schmuck owns shredder
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.Varia_Varietatis.1:11486eec2825b32310ab05b0307c68cc85468a2f8e867bd28f1c4beb2442d430
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for Varia_Varietatis with note: New, Ambitious, reading man pages
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to burn the confetti from this one. on account of every other snail mail envelope containing an unsolicited plastic bank card << Why are you so afraid of burning petro-strange?
Varia_Varietatis: !rate BingoBoingo wrote the gpg guide.
assbot: Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
Varia_Varietatis: !rate BingoBoingo 1 wrote the gpg guide.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/2f8c24bf26164b4d
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: don't like the smell. and neighbours won't either
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i live in 'civilization', recall.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I forget "east coast"
BingoBoingo: Burning strange is much more acceptable in this region
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233875 << i might have said this before, but if this is actually possible, i'm probably it☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:57:29; mircea_popescu: mostly a disease of "visual thinkers", as illustrated by the poor job they do at covering the actual space.
TomServo: I'm late to the party, but thought I'd report my is also wedged @ 367850.
TomServo: I can provide logs if it's of any help.
asciilifeform: TomServo: long ago fixed
BingoBoingo: TomServo: Rebuilt editing db.cpp to much higher settings
TomServo: Effort better spent building rotor?
asciilifeform: TomServo: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000139.html
assbot: [BTC-dev] (CORRECTED) Bullet in the Forehead for the BDB LocksIdiocy ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWNo0i )
asciilifeform: TomServo: and yes, i recommend rotor.
asciilifeform: but rotor doesn't tell you what patches to use
asciilifeform: that is up to you.
asciilifeform: (once mod6 and ben_vulpes come up with an official release - can use that, also)
TomServo: I'm probably too slow to be much use, but what are the current requests for testing? still TEST2? or rotor?
BingoBoingo: WHy not TEST2 in rotor?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "it" what ?
asciilifeform: 'visual think'
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mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/ea19b4078947b7a8f275fb8f95b8a0ef/tumblr_miprrmQSJO1s0bp20o1_500.gif special for alfie
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmF3X6 )
BingoBoingo got new 64 GB usb drive to day for blockchain backup, formats as FFS
BingoBoingo: !up Varia_Varietatis
BingoBoingo: !unrate Varia_Varietatis
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/737bb735f5f3e07a
Varia_Varietatis: Guys I forgot the passphase on the key I just made.
mircea_popescu: !down Varia_Varietatis
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.unrate.Varia_Varietatis:0849b388f960f2692a5f90663ca03599e09d7f361ee68674225ed865270b9ae8
assbot: Successfully unrated Varia_Varietatis
BingoBoingo: 6 months apply again
scoopbot_revived: Copay Multisig Vulnerability Reported http://qntra.net/2015/08/copay-multisig-vulnerability-reported/
lobbes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233054 << made a few config changes to it; was set to check feeds every 2 minutes, now checks every 30. Currently monitoring it on my test channel.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 03:13:24; asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes can we has the bot back plz ?
lobbes: This is just a workaround, though. I still have to discern where in the code it zeros out the cache. So I'm not confident putting back into 'production' just yet.
BingoBoingo: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dDe4I92UUt4/VZmCn6pWpMI/AAAAAAAALqc/hHuRqfGUUo4/s400/IMG_3315.JPG
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DJ7EWy )
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, you know the Coinspect blog post is more than a year old right ?
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: It was brought to my attention today and the story has an important moral. Don't set conditions for letting a machine automatically sign your shit.
BingoBoingo: Because that's probably the next -XT feature.
mircea_popescu: Fri, 07/25/2014 darn
mircea_popescu: well, i never noticed.
Apocalyptic: yeah that's worthwhile to point out, just that it's not really newsworthy
BingoBoingo: Eh, I'll remove the "news" tag
BingoBoingo: At least it happened before Qntra
mircea_popescu: soo, somewhat interesting, maybe. 1984 was actually born at a precise place : "In nationalist thought there are facts which are both true and untrue, known and unknown. A known fact may be so unbearable that it is habitually pushed aside and not allowed to enter into logical processes, or on the other hand it may enter into every calculation and yet never be admitted as a fact, even in one's own mind." appears in a 194
mircea_popescu: 5 piece denouncing "nationalism". which, at the time, simply denoted what socialism (or "liberalism" as it usually self-identifies) denotes today : the ideology of stupid people.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile tyhe next paragraph is actually the valuable bit :
mircea_popescu: "Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered. He spends part of his time in a fantasy world in which things happen as they should–in which, for example, the Spanish Armada was a success or the Russian Revolution was crushed in 1918–and he will transfer fragments of this world to the history books whenever possible. Much of the propagandist writing of our time amounts to plain forgery. Ma
mircea_popescu: terial facts are suppressed, dates altered, quotations removed from their context and doctored so as to change their meaning. Events which it is felt ought not to have happened are left unmentioned and ultimately denied [Note, below]. In 1927 Chiang Kai Shek boiled hundreds of Communists alive, and yet within ten years he had become one of the heroes of the Left. The re-alignment of world politics had brought him into
mircea_popescu: the anti-Fascist camp, and so it was felt that the boiling of the Communists 'didn't count', or perhaps had not happened. The primary aim of propaganda is, of course, to influence contemporary opinion, but those who rewrite history do probably believe with part of their minds that they are actually thrusting facts into the past. When one considers the elaborate forgeries that have been committed in order to show that T
mircea_popescu: rotsky did not play a valuable part in the Russian civil war, it is difficult to feel that the people responsible are merely lying. More probably they feel that their own version was what happened in the sight of God, and that one is justified in rearranging the records accordingly."
mircea_popescu: replace "nationalist" with "socialist" (or, if you prefer to use the self term, "liberal") and note how the ideology of the stupid still behaves today in the manner it behaved then.
mircea_popescu: thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234099 << l0l☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 02:51:24; mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/ea19b4078947b7a8f275fb8f95b8a0ef/tumblr_miprrmQSJO1s0bp20o1_500.gif special for alfie
mircea_popescu: well ?
asciilifeform: that cock isn't even parked
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234126 << linked it here at least 3 times l0l☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 03:14:33; mircea_popescu: meanwhile tyhe next paragraph is actually the valuable bit :
mats: i am fond of that actress
mircea_popescu: i'm slow.
asciilifeform: !s nationalist is haunted by the belief
assbot: 2 results for 'nationalist is haunted by the belief' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nationalist+is+haunted+by+the+belief
mircea_popescu: mats you know her ?
mats: nah. i know of her
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except it pointedly has nothing to do with "nationalist"
mircea_popescu: it's just the twerp who wants to "be part of something"
mircea_popescu: "and help change the world"
mats: you know, in her professional capacity as an actress.
asciilifeform: it had to do with certain folks of the period who did, well, what mr o describes
asciilifeform: but not 'nationalist' in the usual sense, no
mircea_popescu: yeah, because they didn't have reddit yet. same govt jobs, tho.
asciilifeform: approximately.
asciilifeform: also related:
asciilifeform: 'ONE way of feeling infallible is not to keep a diary. Looking back through the diary I kept in 1940 and 1941 I find that I was usually wrong when it was possible to be wrong. Yet I was not so wrong as the Military Experts. Experts of various schools were telling us in 1939 that the Maginot Line was impregnable, and that the Russo-German Pact had put an end to Hitler’s eastwards expansion; in early 1940 they were telling us
asciilifeform: that the days of tank warfare were over; in mid 1940 they were telling us that the Germans would invade Britain forthwith; in mid 1941 that the Red army would fold up in six weeks; in December 1941, that Japan would collapse after ninety days; in July 1942, that Egypt was lost and so on, more or less indefinitely. Where now are the men who told us those things? Still on the job, drawing fat salaries. Instead of the unsinkable
asciilifeform: battleship we have the unsinkable Military Expert . . .'
asciilifeform: ( http://www.telelib.com/authors/O/OrwellGeorge/essay/tribune/AsIPlease19431217.html )
assbot: 17 December 1943 - As I Please - George Orwell, Book, etext ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzTnjj )
mircea_popescu: "(iii) COLOUR FEELING. The old-style contemptuous attitude towards 'natives' has been much weakened in England, and various pseudo-scientific theories emphasising the superiority of the white race have been abandoned.[Note, below] Among the intelligentsia, colour feeling only occurs in the transposed form, that is, as a belief in the innate superiority of the coloured races. This is now increasingly common among Englis
mircea_popescu: h intellectuals, probably resulting more often from masochism and sexual frustration than from contact with the Oriental and Negro nationalist movements."
mircea_popescu: ha!
mircea_popescu: i guess i restated orwell.
asciilifeform: hey whatcanyado, man had eyes, saw.
mats: i found out today my former verizon wireless grandfathered unlimited plan is worth 1k on ebay
mircea_popescu: moreover, the purely sexual drive of the entire "black superiority" notion held strictly by pencilnecked white guys is glaring.
mats: craziness
mircea_popescu: mats get used to it. this is how socialism goes.
asciilifeform: mats: prolly not really transferable
mircea_popescu: grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones"
asciilifeform: prolly most famous example in the world is nyc flats
mats: you can transfer ownership to someone else, i met a guy today that bought it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "rent controlled" ones, yes
asciilifeform: them.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> battleship we have the unsinkable Military Expert . . .' << The "men" were defeating "analysis"
mats: he travels for work and the plan is entirely unthrottled, uses 3-400gb of LTE every month
asciilifeform: mats: it is unclear to me what precisely obligates verizon to keep renewing these contracts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00059484 = 12.9675 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: it isn't the rental of hongkong, there were no spans denominated in centuries in there
mats: prob customer loyalty
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234169 << when i was in timis., my brain melted upon seeing what looked very much like my childhood dumpsters☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 03:25:45; mircea_popescu: grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234132 << mozart did have a sister. who, iirc, did not compose, but played passably☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 03:16:11; mircea_popescu: thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on.
BingoBoingo: Oh, apparently reddit admins just straight up changed the moderators of /r/PunchableFaces
asciilifeform: much of what we know of the man's mind comes from letters to his sister, srsly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you see the film ?
asciilifeform: no film
asciilifeform: just the letters
mircea_popescu: is what i was speaking towards.
asciilifeform: what film
mircea_popescu: libertards made a film about "mozart as a woman", but not actually insane enough to just do it, so it came out a sort of pancake.
asciilifeform: l0l!
mircea_popescu: it cost me some stuff i won't disclose,
mircea_popescu: i had a long standing bet that the "nationalists" will make a "shakespeare was a woman. rly. " attempt at rewriting history to fit the agenda
mircea_popescu: or you know, what they perceive is right in god's eye.
asciilifeform: they also have a long-standing idiocy re: einstein, on same pattern
asciilifeform: he is also in the queue for a film, i imagie.
mircea_popescu: "Nationalistic attachment to the coloured races is usually mixed up with the belief that their sex lives are superior, and there is a large underground mythology about the sexual prowess of Negroes."
asciilifeform: *imagine
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is his female name noether ?
asciilifeform: nah that would make some semblance of sense
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps the most objectionable part of these fried chicken niggers, clogging government with their unwelcome corpses.
asciilifeform: the liberast version is instead that 'he stole from his ex-wife'
mircea_popescu: instead of learning the world as it is, they dream up an infinitely boring-er, stolid-er, like them-er one.
asciilifeform: naturally
asciilifeform: who wants to wake up to being garbage
mircea_popescu: i'd be curious to see what'd happen to one of these scumcanoes should they get somehow magically stuck into seeing themselves with the eyes of a sane person.
mircea_popescu: that'd make one great film.
asciilifeform: no doubt this film will be made. one day.
mircea_popescu: 3 hours of this, julia roberts going slowly insane while seeking the help of an entire array of "experts" to make reality CEASE!11
asciilifeform: but will likely have the flavour of 'donald duck in nazi-land'
mircea_popescu: maybe she could blow her brains out at the premiere, right on the red carpet.
asciilifeform: failing this, theatre will have to pass out tabs of lsd with tickets
BingoBoingo: OH, /r/punchablefaces was turned over to SJW's and Libertards supporting Bernie Sanders revolted
mircea_popescu: or even make the tickets be the tabs
asciilifeform: ^^^
asciilifeform: win
asciilifeform: it is difficult to make convincing films about insane folks
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lmao
asciilifeform: but technology can help!!11
mircea_popescu: yeah, one of the best to date (good will hunting) was drastically unconvincing
mircea_popescu: points for "best effort", but still.
asciilifeform: it was a mega-letdown
asciilifeform: i expected things from that film.
mircea_popescu: never a good idea
asciilifeform: aha.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently much of reddit was upvoating multiple posts of the #Blacklivesmatter Hamplanet who got a bernie sanders speech canceled as an /r/punchableface this was followed by Reddit censorship in the name of Cliter. Now there's a fuckton of wholes becasue no one on reddit uses archive.is
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter.
mircea_popescu: fill me in ?
mircea_popescu: (do they mean "the lives of blacks" matter ?)
BingoBoingo: And yet, Black owned businesses are still being looted in Fergeson by niggers to the point Black people hate niggers
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (do they mean "the lives of blacks" matter ?) << Yes
mircea_popescu: this was in dispute ?
mircea_popescu: why do they say "black lives" when they mean "the lives of blacks" ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter. << The democrat running against Cliter in the presidential primary who admits to being a socialist
asciilifeform: as with all usg slogans, it has a very reversed 'freedom is slavery' meaning in reality
mircea_popescu: aok
BingoBoingo: Because they lack "Pro Grammar"
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
asciilifeform: flip the bits
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/AjbcI
assbot: [BRDSCUSSION] Reddit is in the throes of a white supremacist meltdown regarding Black Lives Matter and Bernie Sanders : ShitRedditSays ... ( http://bit.ly/1huyVlB )
mircea_popescu: who's the white supremacist ? the hamplanet or sanders ?
mircea_popescu: "Multiple sisters in BRD such as /u/topyka2"
mircea_popescu: what's a sister in brd ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Both are Black supremacists.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The complication and number of steps you have to understand are "essential propaganda noise"
mircea_popescu: so wait. the black people that have no pro-grammar make the lives of blacks matter by opposing the campaign appearances of a white guy that runs against a white woman for the nomination to presidency of the democratic party ?
BingoBoingo: The hamplanet was black and Bernie Sanders is this cycle's prime food stamp candidate
BingoBoingo: Yes
mircea_popescu: so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ?
mircea_popescu: and the only place where this matters is reddit, much in the way the only place you find bilge is down in the keel ?
BingoBoingo: "I'm not so prepared to dismiss this protest as "poorly researched" or "poorly executed." I feel like this protest follows a pattern that's so common in feminist and queer circles that we should recognize and expect it now: we critique each other to make our movement inclusive and intersectional, so that our spaces might reject all oppressive forms. When a queer bar isn't entirely inclusive to people that aren't cis-white-rich-gay
BingoBoingo: men, it's much easier to critique and change that bar into one that is inclusive than to petition the nearest straight bar. When Taylor Swift fucks up as a feminist, we call her out (yet we don't call out men or women who do not identify as feminist with nearly such vigor). Why? Because we hope that these people are much more inclined to listen and to uplift further marginalized people and movements.
BingoBoingo: When no candidate is in full support of your movement, it's going to be easiest to convince the one that is somewhat supportive to do a better job than to convince your greatest enemy to do a slightly less shitty job."
mircea_popescu: "We here at /r/ShitRedditSays are taking the firm policy"
mircea_popescu: who's "we here" ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ? << up, see above
mircea_popescu: "feminist and queer circles" ?
mircea_popescu: isn't this insulting to the actual shape involved ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The collective farm we. The gulag's vote as reported in Washington
mircea_popescu: which is more like a donut
BingoBoingo: It's insulting to literacy in general
mircea_popescu: well that's a given
BingoBoingo: No language should have to suffer this attempt at persuasive prose.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the faux-soviet terminology is endearing. such wannabes.
BingoBoingo: C++ is embarrassed right now that an English speaker birthed it
mircea_popescu: "When Taylor Swift fucks up as a feminist"
mircea_popescu: who's taylor swift ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it was this season's britney spears
pete_dushenski: she is, but $200 mn 'dollars' worth
mircea_popescu: hardly.
pete_dushenski: i didn't make this up
mircea_popescu: so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ?
BingoBoingo: Taylor Swift could actually get the dick though. Britney Chain always had the crazy.
funkenstein_: we need dave chapelle back to straighten all this out for us
mircea_popescu: is that the black pothead ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ? << Swift like Beyonce used the word feminist thinking it would "expand their market"
funkenstein_: not sure, depends on your context
pete_dushenski: "name da 5 best rappers of all time : dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan, and dylan"
mircea_popescu: he;'s the dude with the nigger family sketch right ?
funkenstein_: yeah :)
funkenstein_: and the racial draft
BingoBoingo: Related https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/10/003907a204cfd290cdbc62ea1bf7bb8a.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzV8gj )
funkenstein_: and who was it Clayton Biggles?
pete_dushenski: and the black white supremacist.
funkenstein_: ^
pete_dushenski: bigsby iirc
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> and the black white supremacist. << Old meme. Been done since 1620
mircea_popescu: "However, as this matter might not be fully understood, we would like to open a space for discussion in order to further understanding. The usual rules about circlequeefing and Rule X (to an extent) do not apply in this thread, however we expect discussion to be in good faith and a genuine attempt to understand the white supremacy behind the angry reactions to Black Lives Matter's quite frankly highly successful and ex
mircea_popescu: tremely necessary protesting. Note that this is not a debate. The angry backlash at Black Lives Matter is pure white supremacy and this is not up for compromise, however there are few sources for understanding why this fact is, and we would like to help our sisters in BRD understand them better."
funkenstein_: i'm still a free agent
mircea_popescu: can i have this translated to english ?
mircea_popescu: and wtf are "the sisters in brd" already.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It doesn't translate to anything
asciilifeform: what next translated to english? the schizo bum ranting on the corner also has material for translation !
asciilifeform: and likely - more interesting
mircea_popescu: "Gynocratic Council
mircea_popescu: High Chancellor of Free Speech"
mircea_popescu: lmao.
mircea_popescu: i'm surprised "at large" isn't in there.
mircea_popescu: perhaps too uncomfortable.
mircea_popescu: "gynocratic councillor at large" sounds pretty apt for plenty of these tho
BingoBoingo: Dude had a campaign rally, dark Hamplanet hijacked the stage because can't afford cameras, supporters of candidate suddenly racist
pete_dushenski: 'and in charge' tailing that
mircea_popescu: Of the top 50 /r/punchablefaces, 42 of them are about the BLM protestors. The top 10 have a combined total of over 47k points, more than 3x the amount of points than what Obama's AMA got, or hell even twice the top post of all time from me_irl.
mircea_popescu: bwhgahaha
mircea_popescu: so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ?
mircea_popescu: where is it ?
mircea_popescu: who was derping on about how the circle-queef to use its self-given name was in charge of the us ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ? << Actual libertards love Bernie Sanders because he confesses to being socialist. Lizard Libertards want Clitler so... Social media fight
mircea_popescu: o ic.
mircea_popescu: mkay.
BingoBoingo: Basically this is all an intra libertard fight
mircea_popescu: But here’s the thing – what’s powerful about these interruptions from Black women is less how it has changed the tone of the Democratic campaigns and more about what they have exposed in the White left.
mircea_popescu: I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues.
mircea_popescu: well doh. who the fuck cares. blacks are what 11% ?
BingoBoingo: But the Handlers never imagined that one sect would go so over the rails in the name of "intersectionality" that the Level 1 socialists could defeat the Lv 65 NPC pan-racial boss by swarming
mircea_popescu: not notable. and in any case already overrepresented and overcatered.
mircea_popescu: not to mention the part where most black people actually would rather be NOT part of the little africa ghetto these fucktards are trying to build.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues. << This is the great problem of "the people" as a construct.
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, center black people ? what is this.
mircea_popescu: next we're going to center bitcoin around the power rangers or some equally deranged shit,
mircea_popescu: because a vague affiliation with a crumbly, 1/10 base can be parlayed into interest through speaking really loudly.
BingoBoingo: "the people" as retarded in development as it necessarily is always presents as a unified mass when it is really a bunch of things that don't agree on a single point.
mircea_popescu: herp.
BingoBoingo: People way off in insanity and people still level 1 insanity might percieve a bond until their insanities collide
mircea_popescu: the only vaguely concerning point was that i thought hilary's presidency a foregone conclusion since about i dunno, 2008 or so.
mircea_popescu: but shit like this don't bode well.
mircea_popescu: senator hurrdurr (who really seems an exact mirror image of ron paul in left colorings) is certainly out of the question, but omfg don't tell me trump takes over and does a postmodern rendition of reagan
pete_dushenski: if anything can upset that woman's dreams, it's the donald
BingoBoingo: The race right now is fucked. The left press called Rubio the winner of the first GOP debate before any poll numbers and Rubio close to platonically stupid.
pete_dushenski: if u.s. politics is a tv game show, which it so often seems to be, how could trump (or someone equally outrageous) lose ?
mircea_popescu: jeez.
mircea_popescu: you know, romanian "press" and "social media" got very much similarly humiliated in 2008 when a romanian sort of donalt trump trampled all over their girlbits.
mircea_popescu: it was kinda the point it became obvious the alt-planet lost the battle, there.
mircea_popescu: and it was beautiful, five years of 10-20% shrinkage in "advertising spending" were followed by a 80% and two 50%s.
mircea_popescu: to the point 100s of romanian taylor swifts got recently arrested for prostitution (they were doing it for 1-200 euros, rate price)
BingoBoingo: Related https://anongalactic.com/cops-are-now-officially-the-fattest-employees-in-america-study-shows/
mircea_popescu: (rate price means i wouldn't pay 50% of that in any case)
mats: http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/201508_sha3.cfm
assbot: NIST Releases SHA-3 Cryptographic Hash Standard ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzWurk )
wilbns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyfxr-Bzwn0
assbot: Marco Rubio On Rap Music - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzWuYq )
TomServo: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/on-the-detection-of-quantum-insert
assbot: on the detection of quantum insert ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzWvf6 )
pete_dushenski: mats: who in their right fucking mind would trust the latest nist 'standard'
mircea_popescu: "It’s also possible I failed to attract the right visitors. This is only a one man show, and I can only churn out so much linkbait, even for the sake of science."
mircea_popescu: that.
mats: nobody asked you to trust nist
pete_dushenski: mats: eh i wasn't being personal, speaking generally here
pete_dushenski: !s nist
assbot: 38 results for 'nist' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nist
mircea_popescu: the one possibility of interest he neglects is "sane people use the browser as a strictly stateless device. to them it makes absolutely no difference."
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski mats is on a hunt for cultism in the cult, and you stepped on his detector.
pete_dushenski: *kaboom*
mircea_popescu: is it annoying btw mats ?
mats: sha3 was created in an open process like rijndael
asciilifeform: ahahahahahaha
mircea_popescu: can you define "open process" ?
asciilifeform: open, l0l, aha
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: me think cazalla is on a similar hunt ?
mircea_popescu: doubt it.
asciilifeform: it works like this: folks mail in suggestions (naturally only incestuous academitards from nato countries considered! no untermenschem plz!)
pete_dushenski: me grog.
asciilifeform: and nsa picks the ones it likes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform technically, it's open.
asciilifeform: *untermenschen
asciilifeform: open to aryans.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ya, i dun seriously think so either.
mircea_popescu: reddit notably also publishes through an open process.
mircea_popescu: also like rijndael
mircea_popescu: rijnddit.
asciilifeform: phun phakt: the 'dae' is a chick
mats: there are publications detailing the selection process, Chang et. al
asciilifeform: or hm, misremembere
asciilifeform: d
asciilifeform: that was another, forgotten algo
asciilifeform: mats: the selection-for-suitability-for-top-secret process is not public.
asciilifeform: i don't give a flying fuck about the window dressing one.
asciilifeform: the reason why all usg keys are generated at ft. meade and not in the field is also not public.
asciilifeform: unless this - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 - counts as 'public'
assbot: Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name. ... ( http://bit.ly/1gZ2mwl )
mircea_popescu: mats seriously, publications detailing the process ?
mircea_popescu: tell you what. unless i can personally break it, it does not meet my definition of "open".
mircea_popescu: that's what open is : something that continues only inasmuch i do not break it.
mircea_popescu: if it can protect itself, it's closed.
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: so yes, my slavegirls are open processes.
mats: as you suggest, open-ness is subject to personal definitions
mircea_popescu: that'd be about it. claims to the contrary are an exercise in directed disingenuity.
mircea_popescu: and there's nothing wrong with it being a closed process, either. other than - don't expect folks whoi aren't politically alligned to give a slightest fuck.
mircea_popescu: not like the us police implements the rules dreamed up byu the supreme soviet of north korea
mircea_popescu: and this without any discussion of the merits. as great as they may be. and without even reading them.
mircea_popescu: because they make very strictly no difference whatsoever.
asciilifeform: it always boggled my mind how anyone could have ever seen 'fips' etc. as representing anything other than 'breakable by usg with reasonable cost'
asciilifeform: (more of an observation re: ciphers than hashes. until recently, usg did not give a rat's arse re: hashes)
BingoBoingo: Related: "I stopped going to school because people were kicking my ass" - Mike Tyson
wilbns: A different take on OBEY art and apparel: http://mileswmathis.com/obey.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzXjQV )
BingoBoingo: If I recall SHA-3 draft FPGA outdates Bitcoin mining FPGA
mats: well, hand-waving aside, "SHA-3 has no known security issues, whereas SHA-1, MD5, and SHA-512 are susceptible to length-extension. SHA-1 and MD5 are vulnerable to collision attacks, which are expensive for SHA-1, but which are cheap and allow chosen-prefixes for MD5."
asciilifeform: md5 long buried, and cement poured over the grave
mircea_popescu: sha 512 length extension was demonstrated ?
asciilifeform: length extension is an operator error thing strictly.
asciilifeform: can be entirely ruled out in a correct design.
wilbns: excerpt: "We are told that the OBEY sign, with or without the GIANT sign, is anti-authoritarian. But is the fact
wilbns: that a lot of young people are wearing shirts with the words OBEY on them—without knowing
wilbns: anything about the artistic, historical, or “anti-propaganda” significance of all this—really anti-
wilbns: authoritarian? Or is it just the excuse to get the word OBEY up everywhere?"
mircea_popescu: directed disingenuity. as per usual.
BingoBoingo though anyways SHA-3 was proposed entirely on the pretense of "speed"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aha, like aes.
asciilifeform: it's always 'speed' with these folk
asciilifeform: (except when not)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That. Or like Elliptic curve in lieu of RSA
BingoBoingo: "less bits moar fast"
mircea_popescu: less bats moar fist.
asciilifeform: !b 2
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/18YFRKH.txt )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> less bats moar fist. << But dat leverage the bat offers
asciilifeform to bed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5381 @ 0.0006042 = 3.2512 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 265.71, vol: 10109.50102694 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 259.7, vol: 4667.24404 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 266.92, vol: 10902.84743969 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 274.99, vol: 24.41692709 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 262.945802, vol: 13619.38950000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 263.0, vol: 38.83709689 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 273.291947449, vol: 71.54484674 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 264.395376103
BingoBoingo: dat dpear davout
BingoBoingo: *spread
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf http://dpaste.com/2Q2YKDB
assbot: dpaste: 2Q2YKDB ... ( http://bit.ly/1Weoti3 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mats: http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-moves-to-devalue-the-yuan-1439258401
assbot: China Moves to Devalue Yuan - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1WeqPgZ )
trinque: Varia_Varietat+| Guys I forgot the passphase on the key I just made. << wahahaha!
trinque: study your gentoo install in the meanwhile.
BingoBoingo: trinque: He's on OpenBSD now and a six month hold order
funkenstein_: "tightly controlled currency" in what sense do you think mats?
BingoBoingo: Most accurate movie review ever http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=mad_max_hell_yeah
assbot: Mad Max: The only review you need to read for the only movie you need to watch. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3kMZk )
pete_dushenski: notbad.
pete_dushenski: "This part looks so awesome that Mad Max even pauses during the action just to watch people blow up. It's as if he knows he's acting in this awesome movie and he's getting paid to do his job, but even he can't help but sit back and think about how cool his life is going to be after this movie and how he's going to spend the rest of his life getting his knob polished by conjoined supermodel twins for being in thi
pete_dushenski: s awesome scene. " << par for the 2015 meta-movie course
scoopbot_revived: Bully for you. http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/11/bully-for-you/
pete_dushenski: ^longer one for y'all
trinque: BingoBoingo: OpenBSD is probably a much better n00b suggestion
pete_dushenski: spoiler alert : i was bullied, but i was also a bully !
trinque: great installer, for example
BingoBoingo: trinque: OpenBSD is the new Ubuntu 10.04
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Movie is that good
BingoBoingo: One big car chase
pete_dushenski: i've heard nothing but positive reviews of it
pete_dushenski: here, meatwot, everywhere !
mats: funkenstein_: how else? central bank carefully and regularly buys and sells it in domestic forex market
pete_dushenski: speaking of movie recommendations : pumping iron (1977)
pete_dushenski: arnold schwarzeneggar
BingoBoingo: trinque: Of course if you've not seem the previous Mad Max sequels best to follow its watchings with 2, thunderdome, then a rewatching
trinque: man, I love Maddox so much
BingoBoingo: Pumping Iron is good, but the Starz movie champs seems to cover a yet more masculine competition
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The way you enjoy car culture some Immortan Joe seems necessary
pete_dushenski: i tried watching the original, 10 minutes was all i could take.
mats: yes, mad max originals are boring compared to fury road
funkenstein_: mats, ok.. but isn't that what zimbabwe central bank did too?
BingoBoingo: Really every Mad Max except for the original is great
BingoBoingo: 2 is probably best
pete_dushenski: i can't for the life of me understand why all the news about china's currency devaluation is all '2nd largest global economy' blah blah re: china.
pete_dushenski: china's been the biggest for what, 5 years ?
mats: funkenstein_: I don't know specifics of ZWD collapse, but let's say yes, so what?
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> china's been the biggest for what, 5 years ? << Same reason Zynga is an ongoing concern instead of a cauterized wound
funkenstein_: just struck me as an amusing phrase :)
mats: http://bits-please.blogspot.com/2015/08/full-trustzone-exploit-for-msm8974.html
assbot: Bits, Please!: Full TrustZone exploit for MSM8974 ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3lBRX )
mats: funkenstein_: I imagine the particular use arises from the nearly daily management of the rate
mats: http://wiki.yobi.be/wiki/MoVfuscator_Writeup
assbot: MoVfuscator Writeup - YobiWiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGCsE0 )
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: basically, dreams die hardest.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: As a strength each Mad Max installment is completely independent. In order of interesting I rate then
BingoBoingo: *order them
funkenstein_: i was at first surprised how easily it appears for people to arb. CNH/USD/BTC
BingoBoingo drunk watching 4 again
BingoBoingo: <funkenstein_> i was at first surprised how easily it appears for people to arb. CNH/USD/BTC << And hen you actually try it
mats: first link is re: Snapdragon 800, second is 'a beautiful single instruction C compiler leveraging the paper "mov is Turing-complete" [https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sd601/papers/mov.pdf] by Stephen Dolan.'
funkenstein_: if capital controls were effective, there would be differences
BingoBoingo: Capital is not controlled by capital
funkenstein_: :D
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BingoBoingo: My favorite aspect of Mad Max is he kills every budding socialist civilization he comes across
ag3nt_zer0: classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqgnaWuaaQ4
assbot: Donald Trump turns black women into Republicans - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1WeE3dB )
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-protesters-police-gather-on-west-florissant-avenue-state-of/article_7564c9cb-cc89-58cb-8787-4aaa91bcccaa.html << I'm staying out of the city.
assbot: Ferguson protesters, police gather on West Florissant Avenue; state of emergency declared in county : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1WeGKvT )
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/kevin-johnson/fox-cancels-empire-bus-tour-in-st-louis-over-ferguson/article_ee3bff27-ceea-57d9-a7a3-aa1b77ce63ff.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WeGPQ5 )
BingoBoingo: But in better local news http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cards-have-lapped-the-rest-of-baseball-in-run-prevention/article_35332f6e-1039-5556-8842-48dfc794b51f.html
assbot: Cards have 'lapped the rest of baseball' in run prevention : Sports ... ( http://bit.ly/1WeGY5X )
BingoBoingo: Also in ++Local news, the anti Zynga http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordon-here-s-how-the-cards-should-spend-all-that/article_c3000435-50d2-5fcd-81b9-d18ecf110eac.html
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234365 <<< i said your fender flags were ugly, not your first born, get over it princess!☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 04:15:45; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: me think cazalla is on a similar hunt ?
BingoBoingo: Aussie and Candidian are different kinds of Anglo degeneracy
Vexual: canadians just have more money
cazalla: thought you were dead or something Vexual
Vexual: bad luck
Vexual: as you know caz, aussies are hard to kill
Vexual: how goes sobriety?
cazalla: i had a few beers friday night but other than that, good
BingoBoingo: !up btcdrak
shinohai: Nice summary of copay BingoBoingo (tagged "shitware")
BingoBoingo: shinohai: "shitware" is one of qntra's oldest established tags
shinohai: hue
shinohai: One day I should like to write something for qntra.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: The do it.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Seize your dreams and do it.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Just do it.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234449 <<< ya even i managed to get that an xfce up and running☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:03:32; trinque: BingoBoingo: OpenBSD is probably a much better n00b suggestion
shinohai: doob it is more like it.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Do it.
shinohai: I'm not much in the politics arena, it will have to be something along the lines of shitcoin or redditard bashing.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: n6 managed to. Just needs 6 months to catch up to civilized folk.
shinohai: That's my specialty.
shinohai: n6 finally decided what distro to use? After naming off like 20 yesterday?
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Just find something and do it.
shinohai: kk
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPrPNpzLHIk
Vexual: shinohai, you're texan?
shinohai: No, I'm from GA
shinohai: fuckin Atlanta
Vexual: shit, soz
shinohai: xD
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I told n6 to just install OpenBSD. Then he found a guide to set up a "desktop" which convinced him to edit fstab (treat as read only). Got him to reinstall and find a saner guide. Didn't check his hardware and because Nvidia his resolution is painful. Directed to keep reading man pages.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: How about them Braves?
shinohai: I spent 2-3 hours in PM's trying to get him up to speed on gpg and stuff
shinohai: I fucking hate the Braves.
BingoBoingo: After that he forgot his GPG password and I quit
shinohai: !up Vexual
shinohai: srsly, forgot his GPG passphrase.
shinohai: God help us.
Vexual: lol
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> I spent 2-3 hours in PM's trying to get him up to speed on gpg and stuff << Going into the future this is a serious meat DoS attack vector
shinohai: elaborate?
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234535 <<< yeah, i had to buy a $20 ATI card and turf the nvidia 580gt for my install, ended up back on nigbuntu though due to a few reasons☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 08:33:14; BingoBoingo: shinohai: I told n6 to just install OpenBSD. Then he found a guide to set up a "desktop" which convinced him to edit fstab (treat as read only). Got him to reinstall and find a saner guide. Didn't check his hardware and because Nvidia his resolution is painful. Directed to keep reading man pages.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Well if someone he's getting syn's at their brain ack'd it's the same as what happens at the internet socket
shinohai: I don't mind trying to help someone, like I stated earlier I just didn't have my crayons handy for the type of approach he needed.
BingoBoingo: At some point though people are going to help themselves.
shinohai: The agora crowd can learn GPG while spaced out on LSD, shouldn't be that hard.
Vexual: lol
BingoBoingo: This may be the waning time of helping people to get into the WoT
Vexual: bassbot has me ignore, ill need some fierce lsd to calc
shinohai: No one wants to *do* anything BingoBoingo, they like instant validation you get by repeating whatever someone says on r/bitcoin now.
shinohai: One day I'll be as famous as Vitalik Bullshitterin.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: The Phillipenis accepts that sure. But we've been under a variety of sustained attacks for a while. I'm getting to the point now where I really have trouble assuming n00bs are well intentioned like I may have in 2013.
shinohai: :/
shinohai: I was about ready to give up on bitcoin until I found this place.
BingoBoingo: I mean if someone can't follow instructions other people succeed on. Time spent is a waste. Wasting that time is a resource to be attacked.
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1IVP8R8jTs
shinohai: But what can ya do, all one can do is present the facts and hope it penetrates someoes thick skull and finds fetile brain matter on which to germinate.
shinohai: *fertile
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GumwrV2zIio
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Consider if someone wastes an hour of my time, I've usually got lots of time. No big deal. If on the other hand that person manages to waste 15 minutes of asciilifeform's time we have experienced a tragic loss.
Vexual: that dude uses his time as he pleases
BingoBoingo: When the last pre-0.8 wedge came through I suspected it was a BDB issue but alf was the one to euthanize it at the root.
shinohai: Well BingoBoingo those space cadets I mentioned earlier are perfectly happy to *pay* for an hour or two of my time, and are surprisingly apt students. They gotta be - No GPG = No drugs.
shinohai: Here is a different story. If someone expresses an interest in therealbitcoin I want to help, because more nodes.
shinohai: But takes all kinds I guess.
BingoBoingo: In my current situation knowingly servicing the drug crowd for pay is too much risk. I'm out on bail. If they want to even ask for my service and get acknowledged they need GPG down already.
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> Here is a different story. If someone expresses an interest in therealbitcoin I want to help, because more nodes. << First lesson of reddit is randos don't run nodes
shinohai: No, reddit prefers to offer their opinions on bitcoin, as if that helps.
Vexual: hola hasimir
Vexual: no nuggets?
BingoBoingo: !up Hasimir
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
BingoBoingo: shinohai: See. Opinions can have an effect though if they are actionable and acted upon.
cazalla: looks like voat is doing some guerilla marketing/spamming http://dpaste.com/2574M6Q.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1El02V4 )
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Oh, I thought they were too busy trying to stay up.
shinohai: That's true, most of these "opinions" are just regurgitated talk from the guy that commented above you.
BingoBoingo: https://voat.co/v/bitcointrader/comments/400299
assbot: Checking your bits ... ( http://bit.ly/1El0fHR )
shinohai: Have you guys seen that other voat-like site that popped up in the wake of the reddit brouhaha? Lets you "upvote" with pencil-shavings of btc, ltc, and doge.
BingoBoingo: Nah
shinohai: http://www.bitvoat.com/
assbot: BitVoat - UpVoat with Crypto! BitVoat ... ( http://bit.ly/1D1TBv7 )
shinohai: https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ggd71/hearing_these_poor_women_desperately_begging_us/cty184g
assbot: yayalorde comments on "Hearing these poor women desperately begging us to take their credit card numbers so they could put up an ad to feed their families changed everything." ... ( http://bit.ly/1El0PFz )
punkman: reddit is getting too much airtime
Vexual: that'll be $35
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVP_w1rQweE
Vexual: thought on the yuan ounk?
Vexual: *punkman
punkman: oh they devalued again?
punkman: "the move was a "one-off depreciation" of 1.9% in a move to make the exchange rate more market-oriented. "
punkman: 1.9% pfft
Vexual: one of many?
Hasimir: yo, what's up?
Vexual: hey
punkman: so their exports slumped, let's make our shit cheaper?
Vexual: maybe
Hasimir: or did I just disconnect and autoreconect again?
punkman: they gotta manage everything "The midpoint for the yuan is now set at 6.2298 to $1, up from 6.1162 yuan on Monday. The People's Bank of China (POBC) manages the rate through the official midpoint, from which trade can rise or fall 2% on any given day."
Hasimir prods the flakey dsl
Vexual: sauna to the snow?
Hasimir: yeah, that was it (well, that and ZNC)
Vexual: :)
Vexual: commerxbank think they want into imf
Vexual: shitstory
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8APYF0kkas
Vexual: hasimar ass we see is what you say
shinohai: BingoBoingo u still there m8
shinohai: !up Vexual
Vexual: *all
punkman: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/lenovo-announces-powerhouse-laptops-powered-by-new-mobile-xeon-processors/
assbot: Lenovo announces powerhouse laptops powered by new mobile Xeon processors | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1El20ol )
punkman: (with ECC ram)
punkman: http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2015/08/10/computer-scientists-have-looked-for-solution-that-doesn-exist/tXO0qNRnbKrClfUPmavifK/story.html
assbot: For 40 years, computer scientists looked for a solution that doesn’t exist - The Boston Globe ... ( http://bit.ly/1El28EC )
shinohai: Interesting article.
Vexual: i find it hard to swallow
Vexual: in any aother system you might find a maximum efficiency
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVMnQ1ypjmY
punkman: !up Vexual
shinohai: !up muruc
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mircea_popescu: sooo, i got a rather amusing internal report from reddit. it would seem that
mircea_popescu: a) very few entries actually get > 100 upvotes. as in, it's happened twice so far this year. b) the number of negative votes exceeds the positive by a degree of magnitude or more on average, and regularly by two degrees on "popular" items. when this doesn't happen it's always obscure stories with one or two votes.
shinohai: O.o
mircea_popescu: c) to cope with this situations the admins universally make up random vote counts ; d) to cope with the shortage of manpower this causes all sorts of exponential factorizations are used, which means that in practice a story is first "fast tracked" which means some admin ticks a box and from there on it gets all sorts of factors and additions
mircea_popescu: e) the system is pretty byzantine so that admins regularly can not predict what the results of their choices will actually be
mircea_popescu: f) they tried all sorts of experimental "harness the negative votes" but nothing could be made to werk
mircea_popescu: and finally g) they've been bleeding people from engineering at an ever accelerating rate since 2010 (or earlier) and by now it's so bad people leave during the first three months as a regular occurence. they briefly and unsuccessfully tried the "pay more" approach, it didn't do much, currently they've practically given up on the problem altogether.
mircea_popescu: along with all sorts of personally damning tidbits and a treasure trove of all sorts of lols.
mircea_popescu: welll... no, not really "all sorts". "autistic usian" sorts.
shinohai: reddit is doomed to go the way of digg
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, no, because apparently all sorts of people (who otherwise have no money and no influence, which is to say - their inept choices ands valuations have stranded them irl) think it's incredibly important and valuable!
shinohai: Conde Nast I guess feels the need to dump resources into it.
mircea_popescu: these'd be all sorts of self-described activists, which in any other place'd be known as "political arivists" except this doesn't apply because they're actually too fat/lazy/lost in self to even have ambitions.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's alltogether more layered laziness, such as, "if i give up the delusion that my activity on the rickety house of cards we call reddit matters, i will have to find other work to do as part of my being politically important, which is hard and risks requiring me looking up from the tablet or going out of starbucks. so let's instead pretend."
mircea_popescu: in any case, reddit's gonna die its own, livejournal-y sort of death. digg iirc died when it crashed against a thick brick wall of "nobody cares".
shinohai: You recall correctly.
shinohai: Anyone here used vee as a blogging platform ?
mircea_popescu: nop
shinohai: Comes pre-installed on my NetBSD shell. May give it a whirl sometimes.
mircea_popescu: mats the true question is whether this is a test run and they hit it again more to the tune of 30-40% later in the year.
mircea_popescu: it's one way to fix their major capital allocation issues / bad provincial govt "investment" / valuable real estate on paper etc.
mircea_popescu: the most relevant part of all this to bitcoin being that price stickiness (principally, the stubborn refusal of old people to admit that real estate they once bought is not now worth what they paid for it) may very well require inflation as the best social solution.
mircea_popescu: by a damned sight better than say, beatings. and it's altogether unclear an alternative to these exists.
mircea_popescu: balzac's french contemporaries (who were on the napoleon gold standard) pretty much used the beatings, which did make for great literature but really a rather miserable society.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234457 << greatly helped by the fact that said central bank is both the world's largest holder of domestic currency as well as the various foreign currency. it has more dollars than the fed, for instance.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:06:57; mats: funkenstein_: how else? central bank carefully and regularly buys and sells it in domestic forex market
mircea_popescu: due to that position, the yuan's simply worth whatever the fuck they say it's worth.
mircea_popescu: "In the future, everyone has a war machine, nobody wears seatbelts and everyone tries to be as flammable as possible. Damn right."
mircea_popescu: is this guy from utah or something ?
mircea_popescu: and re charlize theron : i get it, chicks not really able to act, but is very pretty, so she's going to do either porn or action movies (which really aren't in any sense distinct). makes sense. what doesn't make sense is this bodily self-loathing hot women in hollywood seem to have gotten into the past few years.
mircea_popescu: angelina jolie is following the psychotic body mod trends of every zsa zsa gabor since the 50s, except she's not lifting her skin to the point her bellybutton adorns her chin, instead she's taking out her ovaries, the fat in her tits and i suppose putting in an armenian unibrow next, because hey.
mircea_popescu: feminity is bad mkay!
mircea_popescu: the unholy alliance of the pretty airhead and the horde of self-loathing hamplanets where the latter convince the former that they should grind their face on sandpaper and cut off her nipples because the ugliest she gets, the "better"
mircea_popescu: craaaazy.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234466 << at no point did afrifail central bank EVER buy its own worthless paper.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:10:44; funkenstein_: mats, ok.. but isn't that what zimbabwe central bank did too?
shinohai tosses his pogoplug in the garbage disposal, gives up on stupid arm processors and cross-compiling.
mircea_popescu: ;/
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234471 << i have nfi what the guy is on about, sort-of like "oh, so nasa launched a satellite ? isn't that what the nazis did too ???" no, it isn't, and wtf.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:14:27; mats: funkenstein_: I don't know specifics of ZWD collapse, but let's say yes, so what?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234470 << in its own mind the us is always going to be firstest bestest. it ends as the twerps in question die out, britannia also thought itself first bestsest 4evar!! all through the 30s, and the 40s, and the 50s (remember the humiliation they and the french got in egypt, bested by sadat ?) and so on. it died meanwhile through the biological process of, "the old people☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:14:18; pete_dushenski: china's been the biggest for what, 5 years ?
mircea_popescu: stubbornly refusing to admit that ideological estate they once bought is not now worth what they paid for it eventually die"
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, all the things "we" dislike about postmodernism, specifically the deluge of cultural artefacts (ideas, as opposed to [civilisational] artefacts, ie items) may well be the unavoidably necessary equivalent to inflation, to wash away the idiocy of these guys without having to beat them up/
shinohai: Shitty old AMD laptop: 1, Shiny pogo: 0
mircea_popescu: otherwise you'll get "brownstone is the best stone" and "american ideas must prevail everywhere" endlessly.
mircea_popescu: shinohai maybe i don't understand crosscompilation, but a) shouldn't it work on pogo if you ever got it to compile/link anywhere ? and b) wasn't the idea to avoid compiling for the pogo ON THE POGO anyway ?
shinohai: I tried with the pogotron instructions, have read hours upon hours about buildroot, tried writing my own build scripts, etc. Nothing.
shinohai: Compiling ON the pogo is pointless.
mircea_popescu: le suck.
shinohai: I have yet to find anyone willing to let me peek at their buildlog that *has* sucessfully done this.
shinohai: So x86_64 for me.
shinohai: Which btw I am at height 109638 on the one we built this weekend past. Runs good.
shinohai: *209638
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: shinohai what build is this, rotor ?
shinohai: yup
shinohai: prefixing LC_ALL=C is a bit annoying, but not a dealbreaker
mircea_popescu: would someone who managed this please post logs ?
mircea_popescu: iirc in the end hanbot did at the very least.
mircea_popescu: shinohai what's needed, the buildlog ?
shinohai: hanbot compiled pogo ? O.o
shinohai: Yes a buildlog, any relevant notes someone can include.
mircea_popescu: iirc she did manage rotor yest ?
mircea_popescu: i think all this is coming. like, this week.
shinohai: I'm not below doing my own research but this one has me totally stumped.
shinohai retrieves his pogo from the disposal and puts it back on the shelf.
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shinohai: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3193440/Heavily-armed-Oath-Keepers-inject-new-unease-riot-hit-Ferguson.html
assbot: Armed patriot Oath Keepers patrol streets of Ferguson with assault rifles | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1DK83rO )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234638 << and not posted on trilema because ...☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 11:34:10; mircea_popescu: along with all sorts of personally damning tidbits and a treasure trove of all sorts of lols.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not THAT reliable.
mircea_popescu: moreover, trilema is not a news rag, it's a personal blog.
asciilifeform: well then dpaste.
asciilifeform: or wherever unreliable things go.
asciilifeform: watching the rats scramble in their denials would be lulzy.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but also... notrly the best approach
mircea_popescu: if wikileaks has taught us anything.
asciilifeform: keeping the death ray rusting in its holster is also not the best approach, as demonstrated by the nonwiki-leaks
mircea_popescu: this ain't no kind of deathray. the (incidentally : verifiable) maybe-deathray-esque parts are above in any case.
asciilifeform: was gonna say
asciilifeform: if they use deterministic diddles, hypothesis is testable.
asciilifeform: but needs max detail.
mircea_popescu: apparently there's about a dozen or two diddle "profiles"
asciilifeform: even so.
mircea_popescu: and apparently they all are linear functions, ie a+bx
asciilifeform: like the nsa/echelon thing, this is something that just about everyone 'will have always known' after it blows
mircea_popescu: all one needs to do is keep screenshots over fixed time intervals. eventually the data should be indicative.
mircea_popescu: where eventually = maybe months ?
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform doh.
asciilifeform: just lolling in advance over it
asciilifeform: anyway imho the full text oughta be posted. but it's mircea_popescu's death ray, not mine.
asciilifeform: perhaps he wants to let enemy draw in before firing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234652 << how the hell does inflation dekulakize old farts with real estate? if anything, does the exact opposite.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:00:46; mircea_popescu: the most relevant part of all this to bitcoin being that price stickiness (principally, the stubborn refusal of old people to admit that real estate they once bought is not now worth what they paid for it) may very well require inflation as the best social solution.
asciilifeform: 500k cardboard hovels in us suburbia are creations of inflation
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you reason ?
mircea_popescu: hehe. but they should have been 2x that, without it.
asciilifeform: will be 2x next year
mircea_popescu: yes, real estate allows them to "profit" from inflation, in the sense of being taxed at 30% instead of 65%
mircea_popescu: this is not unlike the idiot jews in ghetto taking jobs for germans.
asciilifeform: without it they'd cost what they cost in 1971 or whenever built
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: not at all.
asciilifeform: why not
mircea_popescu: this is beyond naive.
mircea_popescu: because the context has changed. in 1971 a lot of schmucks knew their place.
mircea_popescu: that do not know it today.
mircea_popescu: chiefly through the process of, the world of 1971 not being worth two shits in the terms of today.
asciilifeform: thought it was the reverse ?
asciilifeform: (how many current 'engineers' could pass 1971 exam? etc)
mircea_popescu: that's the conundrum.
mircea_popescu: see, admire the beauty of it. how much would an ipad be worth in 1971 ?
mircea_popescu: much enough that it was put in fucking star trek, right ?
asciilifeform: actually the folks of '71 would cry if shown one
mircea_popescu: the entire "apple stock could buy russia" is nothing more and nothing else than, "you could probably buy all of 1971"
asciilifeform: 'this ought to have been in '78'
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: alan kay described a device vastly superior, 'dynabook', that he proposed could be built in only a few years from the time of writing
asciilifeform: he assumed that men would remain equally capable while si fab advances
mircea_popescu: im sure some uppity redskin proposed the steam engine, too.
mircea_popescu: you know ?
asciilifeform: let's put it this way
asciilifeform: at one point i bought an 'hp 200lx', 'palmtop'. vastly superior to ~anything~ in that device class made since
asciilifeform: 1994.
asciilifeform: find me something else with a keyboard that will run on two 'aa' battery for a MONTH
asciilifeform: MOTHERFUCKERS
asciilifeform: no such thing
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: and yet...
asciilifeform: so no, i highly doubt that you would properly astonish an educated man of 1971 with ~anything~ seen today
asciilifeform: other than the decay and degeneracy
mircea_popescu: what educated ? i'm not selling to the educated.
asciilifeform: if selling to muppets, can find plenty today
mircea_popescu: you understand ? the society of 1971 is just as broken as this one, but not actually raped yet.
mircea_popescu: huge profits could be driven by raping it from the future.
asciilifeform: this is the plot for 1,001 cheap 'alt history' yarns, aha.
mircea_popescu: which is the point. the "1971 educated man" does not yet know he's an imbecile.
mircea_popescu: au contraire, he expects himself quite smart.
asciilifeform: except that they usually feature 1871
mircea_popescu: yet the continuation of his imbecility is exactly 2015.
asciilifeform: or 1671, more commonly.
mircea_popescu: it's not like the aliens came in and made the country stupid.
mircea_popescu: this was a convenient excuse in romania, "things went to shit because teh russians are making us do it !111"
mircea_popescu: rrrrrheally nao.
mircea_popescu: who invaded the us ?
asciilifeform: massachusetts!
asciilifeform: who else.
mircea_popescu: so - without inflation they'd still be around, derping on, as if their ideas and values are valuable and useful.
mircea_popescu: looky where they lead.
asciilifeform: would they?
asciilifeform: or would they get 'goxed'
mircea_popescu: but that's the goxing - inflation.
asciilifeform: there is more than one way for idiots to lose everything
mircea_popescu: or rather, the hounds driving them into goxing
asciilifeform: spain lost its gold.
mircea_popescu: through real estate or w/e
asciilifeform: and not because anyone made more gold.
mircea_popescu: but because the anglos made ipads.
mircea_popescu: which were utter pieces of shit, btw, and what you said above could have been said by italian "educated man" of the time,
mircea_popescu: about the time's trinkets.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234654 << what the hell is wrong with beatings?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:01:47; mircea_popescu: balzac's french contemporaries (who were on the napoleon gold standard) pretty much used the beatings, which did make for great literature but really a rather miserable society.
mircea_popescu: heck, the same thing was said by educated men of the opium
asciilifeform: beat, beat
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: i say it today, and the conclave of derps is like "hey, mp is just silly, drugs are great mkay"
mircea_popescu: fine, fine, haveityourway.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform beating old people is a bad idea.
asciilifeform: why?
mircea_popescu: in young people and especially young women it is how the fucxk do you say this in english
mircea_popescu: timeout while i research my words lol.
asciilifeform admits he rather ~likes~ old people, even most of'em to whom he isn't related by blood, for much the same reason he likes museums
asciilifeform still often finds himself walking past these folks, with their enormous houses owned free and clear merely for having been alive 40 years earlier, and thinks 'hm, kulaks'
mircea_popescu: страдание поучительно
mircea_popescu: there we go.
asciilifeform: we did this iirc
mircea_popescu: there's great benefit from toil in youth.
mircea_popescu: yeah meanwhile i remember.
mircea_popescu: that benefit doth not exist in old people.
asciilifeform: didn't say they ought to be beaten educationally
mircea_popescu: they just get sad, and the whole world grows dimmer.
asciilifeform: just eaten.
mircea_popescu: meh.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234667 << patience☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:15:34; *: shinohai tosses his pogoplug in the garbage disposal, gives up on stupid arm processors and cross-compiling.
shinohai: Later on down I did get it back out.
asciilifeform: shinohai: see, i'd post a full recipe and signed binaries today, but we don't quite yet have a pogo-capable - that is, non-ramguzzling - bitcoind
asciilifeform: needs two things, 1) hard mempool limiter 2) block index cache moved to disk
asciilifeform: (both discussed in the logs on several occasions)
asciilifeform: the ~existing~ therealbitcoin can run on pogo, yes, if you enable swapping. but just barely. and imho we don't need a thousand more 'just barely' nodes.
shinohai: I did swap when I tried it w/ the precompiled binary.
shinohai: precompiled binaries are boring tho. I don't learn anything.
asciilifeform: shinohai: i think the last one built for pogo ~actually leaks~.
asciilifeform: don't use it
shinohai: It does
shinohai: which is why I am using my spare lappy now
asciilifeform: shinohai: you somehow botched the buildroot. i do not yet know how. when i post mine you can compare
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234663 << ancient idea, at least as old as the legendary amazons☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:10:01; mircea_popescu: the unholy alliance of the pretty airhead and the horde of self-loathing hamplanets where the latter convince the former that they should grind their face on sandpaper and cut off her nipples because the ugliest she gets, the "better"
asciilifeform: 'get manly by getting ugly'
mircea_popescu: sure, but detrimental.
asciilifeform: no shit.
mircea_popescu muchly prefers his manly women be manly intellectually.
asciilifeform: ^^^
mircea_popescu: admittedly harder to do. actually works tho.
mircea_popescu: an ugly shitsack's not more manly than the dumpster.
asciilifeform: but seen side by side, illustrates why some go for mutilation
asciilifeform: when 'manly via intellect' is not on the menu!
mircea_popescu: (which reminds me : i once dropped the "how tall are you ? really ?! my god, i didn't know they stacked shit that high" on model chick. great lols were had.)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234671 << latest generation will 'us is greatest' on account of 'greatest communism' - word is that clitler is running on platform of 'phreeee uni tuition for all plankton'☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:20:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234470 << in its own mind the us is always going to be firstest bestest. it ends as the twerps in question die out, britannia also thought itself first bestsest 4evar!! all through the 30s, and the 40s, and the 50s (remember the humiliation they and the french got in egypt, bested by sadat ?) and so on. it died meanwhile through the biological process o
mircea_popescu: there is no way to avoid that. if I ran my platform would also include free university for everyone.
mircea_popescu: the us has painted itself in a corner and there's simply no way out no matter how you approach the matter.
mircea_popescu: "The Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit civil rights organization, has described the 'Oath Keepers' as a 'fiercely anti-government, militaristic group,' and St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar condemned their appearance in Ferguson."
mircea_popescu: so what about this is a bad thing then ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the original story with these is that they were simply a group of officers who... took an oath
shinohai: Pisses off the black activists something awful.
mircea_popescu: that'd be their problem eh ?
asciilifeform: it being, that they will not fire on u.s. folk, no matter who orders it
mircea_popescu: but obviously it would. their entire shtick relies on the same "but seen side by side, illustrates why some go for mutilation".
mircea_popescu: for the entire nonsense to work, ordinary people must perforce perceive there is "nothing else on the meny"
mircea_popescu: otherwise, in an open market, the "activist" is middling to low tier camwhore.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform problem being that who are they going to fire on then
Apocalyptic: http://thenextweb.com/opinion/2015/08/11/oracle-drinking-the-kool-aid/ << mega-lol
assbot: Oracle's CSO thinks the company doesn't need security help ... ( http://bit.ly/1DFZRZO )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they haven't run out of untermenschen to 'conquer' at this point quite yet
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3ghlh4/i_switched_to_bitcoinxt_to_protest_today_incident/ctyft4v
assbot: creditmoney comments on "I switched to bitcoinxt to protest today incident" … "Do it because it's good for Bitcoin" ... ( http://bit.ly/1DFZX3I )
shinohai: ^ best comment of all
mircea_popescu: they have run out of softer targets. there's no "untermenschen" they COULD conquer
asciilifeform: there are the obvious ones
asciilifeform: their own command.
mircea_popescu: even if the untermenschen were all on vacation leaving the unterwomenschen behind and the doors open
mircea_popescu: "I'll ask your opinion on it again next time you have a transaction you need to process in a hurry and the mempool is 5 MB."
mircea_popescu: uhh.,... what, "and i'll spend a quarter and not have a problem" ?
asciilifeform: nah that'd be racist or something
asciilifeform: what of all the poor starving hurrying people who don't have quarterz
asciilifeform: etc
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: and then you want clinton to do anything but make it free ?
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean pay"
mircea_popescu: "I disagree that I should have to pay in bitcoin or cpu time to get what I want."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see, i've always been sympathetic to 'sure let's warehouse people while energy is cheap and we don't need to plow by hand' - because i always fukcinghated work.
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234588 <-- just like reddit / imperial elections / box office stats / etc, no means of verification of vote or claimed rating is available to the user. Draw your own conclusions.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 09:09:36; shinohai: http://www.bitvoat.com/
asciilifeform: but it isn't like i can personally do my thing in the warehouse
mircea_popescu: not sure where this is coming/going ?
asciilifeform: clitler's 'phree'
shinohai: I drew my conclusion funkenstein_ it promotes dogecoin so scummy
asciilifeform: i object to it on account of being among the designated chumps who will have to starve to pay for the 'phree'
mircea_popescu: i suppose the sticking point is that you for some reason project unrelated matter on it.
mircea_popescu: they will call it "university"
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact no higher learning has happened in the us in two decades at least.
mircea_popescu: so... no. it's adult daycare.
mircea_popescu: and yes you'll have to pay for adult healthcare. doh.
mircea_popescu: this comes with the territory, living in the united states of kindergarten.
asciilifeform: well not exactly. the folks on the other side of the fence get to eat phree, rather than pay.
asciilifeform: they also live here.
asciilifeform: meanwhile...
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/553307AFE540EF3E57BB4D3558C9C7FA88F2C4B81CBCB9F5ADEF116B4055E582
mircea_popescu: lol, this is so funny. looky :
asciilifeform: gcd==357; __test__ <__test__@ribble.cn>
asciilifeform: ^ wtf
mircea_popescu: they're the negro slaves of the new, certifiedly non-racist regime. they, just like the previous negro slaves, eat "for free". in exchange, they may not own property, have no disposition of their bodies, and have to do "work"
mircea_popescu: the work they currently do is about as economically useful as handpickingf cotton, for the record.
mircea_popescu: happy now ? you live in the best world possible.
asciilifeform: thing is, i already... own no property; have no disposition of body; and do 'work'
mircea_popescu: so ?
asciilifeform: where's the 'eat for phree'
mircea_popescu: you know, the little discussed secrtet, is that at the time "blacks were enslaved", poor, independent minded whites lived in just about the same conditions throughout the slaveowning states.
asciilifeform: discussed extensively
asciilifeform: and not 'same conditions' - minus the expectations and beatings, no ?
asciilifeform: materially - same,yes
mircea_popescu: materially same, yes.
mircea_popescu: it's what you were saying innit.
shinohai: Did not the Ottomans enslave whites as well?
mircea_popescu: the arabs and the turks preferred black men for labour and white women for ... belabour.
mircea_popescu: which is why "arap" in romanian means black, in the sense of negro slave. because the turks called them "arabs"
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, has survived, a proper thing to wish for the bride at wedding throughout musliv world is "may your kids be light skinned"
shinohai: I can see why if all they got were the same whiny white Xstians we have here in the US today.
mircea_popescu: well... white people can't jump or something.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234912 << this was the ru parlance as late as the time of peter I.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 14:06:11; mircea_popescu: which is why "arap" in romanian means black, in the sense of negro slave. because the turks called them "arabs"
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: e.g., this fella: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BB,_%D0%90%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
assbot: Ганнибал, Абрам Петрович — Википедия ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHwMd4 )
mircea_popescu: ;;google Harap Alb
gribble: Harap Alb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harap_Alb>; The White Moor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Moor>; De-as fi Harap Alb (1965) The White Moor [English subtitles ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbtyxNSqBsQ>
mircea_popescu: ^ super-famous literary work, title works on the contradiction of "White Negro Slave"
mircea_popescu: and moor is nonsense. it literally means "the white nigger"
mircea_popescu: recorded in 1877. part of early school curricula all through early 90s
asciilifeform: from the l0ltrons: http://web.tampabay.com/news/business/tampa-man-accused-of-illegal-bitcoin-exchange-getting-attention-in-new-york/2240829
assbot: Tampa man accused of illegal Bitcoin exchange getting attention in New York | Tampa Bay Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHx7MY )
mircea_popescu: in any case. the "slave" sense is more marked than the "black" sense in there.
funkenstein_: mircea_popescu, do you know why white people can't jump?
shinohai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2z0nrsQ8o <<< My entire knowledge of Russian history in one song
assbot: Rasputin vs Stalin. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 2 finale. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHxcQJ )
funkenstein_: becaues too busy telling racist jokes
mircea_popescu: i dunno, bird jumped alright back in the day
mircea_popescu: lol i thought this was a black culture theme ?
funkenstein_: :)
funkenstein_: I just read great book "of water and the spirit". Dagara youth taken by French missionaries, when he returns he is "too white" to be part of his villiage, forgot his language, etc.
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ i'm very vaguely following the black culture stuff, mostly on the grounds that i don't believe it is sterile / doesn't carry much import. so i have nfi. but srsly, you saying the theme is really projected rather than locally brewed ?
mircea_popescu: i do believe it's sterile*
funkenstein_: i just can't really follow because it seems the terms are not clear.
mircea_popescu: the expression "white men can't jump", as an artefact, which it is. comes, as far as i know, from actual black people, as a local creation. like the word "trayvon". not from white people, as a projection.
mircea_popescu: like the word "negro"
kakobrekla: nah, they are just being racists.
mircea_popescu: bloody hell now i'm going to have to look into this.
funkenstein_: probably not worth your time.
mircea_popescu: what ever is.
shinohai: https://rya.nc/cracking_cryptocurrency_brainwallets.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IxUvMI )
funkenstein_: lol :) I absolutely recommend the book though, Malidoma Patrice Somé is the author
shinohai: top keks: https://zippy.gfycat.com/VillainousVengefulGrassspider.webm
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHAjIi )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12514 @ 0.00059068 = 7.3918 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00059229 = 13.978 BTC [+]
shinohai: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: https://cryptome.org/2015/08/nsa-sigint-philo-intercept-15-0810.pdf ( http://dpaste.com/127S00C ) << lulzy
assbot: dpaste: 127S00C ... ( http://bit.ly/1P47c5Z )
ascii_field: ^ 'SIGINT Philosopher'
ascii_field: ^ the paste is incomplete
ascii_field: some of the text did not ocr
mircea_popescu: jump to line 428 lol
mod6: hey, if i build rotor-TEST2 on say gentoo, and someone else builds the same whole thing on debian, we get the same number of output bytes in the bin, but the checksums are different, seem to be some offset differences.
mod6: is this expected?
ascii_field: mod6: vbindiff
ascii_field: and see why
ascii_field: (embedded path turds)
ascii_field: these need to die, yes
mod6: neat tool.
mod6: seems to be some opcode diffs, i.e. deb 0x25 always is changed out for gentoo 0x12 ...
mod6: things like that
ascii_field: objdump -d
ascii_field: and diff
ascii_field: and srsly do i have to do everything myself
mircea_popescu: eh cmon.
ascii_field: 'If we determine as part of our analysis that scan results could only have come from reverse engineering (in at least one case, because the report said, cleverly enough, “static analysis of Oracle XXXXXX”), we send a letter to the sinning customer, and a different letter to the sinning consultant-acting-on-customer’s behalf – reminding them of the terms of the Oracle license agreement that preclude
ascii_field: reverse engineering, So Please Stop It Already.' << glorious
Apocalyptic: I knew you'd like it :)
ascii_field: to borrow mircea_popescu's observation from last year, these folks are just ~begging~ to be boiled in oil
mircea_popescu: this is the protocols of the elders of nsa.
ascii_field: tr0lfake ?
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mod6: <+ascii_field> and srsly do i have to do everything myself << i might not be viewing the differences correctly .. so what I said above might not be correct.
ascii_field: mod6: nah prolly correct
ascii_field: disasm and diff, betcha it'll make a good blog post
ascii_field: why is mircea_popescu convinced that the oracle thing is a sham ?
mircea_popescu: btw, it might please you to find that in the woirld simulation that is eulora, licensing agreements appeared within the first month.
mircea_popescu: the economy wiggled out of command state by the 9th
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i was speaking re previous dpaste.
ascii_field: ah
ascii_field: as i understand, it is a snowden turd
ascii_field: which is to say, from the bottom of the pile, were it sorted
ascii_field: like ~all of them~
ascii_field: the ant catalogue ('godsurge' etc) ~wasn't~ from snowden
mircea_popescu hasn't seen it, is unsure of origin.
ascii_field: the rest of the idiocy - typical, like the sample
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1216011☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 03:51:50; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: circumstantial; based on out-of-phase release time, and the content (uncensored) and formatting (full text memos, with technical detail, rather than idiot powerpoint)
mod6: ok, yeah offsets, not opcodes:
mod6: - 40259e: 48 81 ff 50 25 ac 00 cmp $0xac2550,%rdi
mod6: + 40259e: 48 81 ff 50 12 ac 00 cmp $0xac1250,%rdi
mod6: that kinda 25 <=> 12 happens a bunch
ascii_field: 'Q. Why are you going after consultants the customer hired? The consultant didn’t sign the license agreement! A. The customer signed the Oracle license agreement, and the consultant hired by the customer is thus bound by the customer’s signed license agreement. Otherwise everyone would hire a consultant to say (legal terms follow) “Nanny, nanny boo boo, big bad consultant can do X even if the customer can’t!”'
ascii_field: ^ gold
mircea_popescu: "More like, "I do not need you to analyze the code since we already do that, it's our job to do that, we are pretty good at it, we can -- unlike a third party or a tool -- actually analyze the code to determine what's happening and at any rate most of these tools have a close to 100 percent false positive rate so please do not waste our time on reporting little green men in our code. I am not running away from our resp
mircea_popescu: onsibilities to customers, merely trying to avoid a painful, annoying, and mutually-time wasting exercise," the CSO writes.
ascii_field: https://web.archive.org/web/20150811090106/https://blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/entry/no_you_really_can_t
assbot: No, You Really Can’t (Mary Ann Davidson Blog) ... ( http://bit.ly/1P4bhHl )
mircea_popescu: there you go, that's your "professionals".
mircea_popescu: still with that boat ?
ascii_field: these are turds with two legs
ascii_field: aka 'american business experts'
mircea_popescu: heh. says who ?
mircea_popescu: but lulzy at the legal nonsense they're sprouting. my consultant can do whatever the fuck he pleases.
ascii_field: says my lying nose
mod6: i'll post the diff so you can take a peek when you have a chance ascii_field
mircea_popescu: you can claim im still responsible for it.
mircea_popescu: but he - isn't.
ascii_field: mod6: neat
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: these folks are at the stage where they openly expect to be able to use law as lettre de cachet
ascii_field: not caring really about technicalities
mircea_popescu: i'm at the same phase.
ascii_field: when you break something, it is broken for everyone
ascii_field: sorta how it works
mircea_popescu: heh i guess so.
ascii_field: btw in case this wasn't obvious, the original article is memoryholed into oblivion
ascii_field: nobody disclaimed the idiocies, but oracle would like to pretend that no one said them in a single convenient place.
mircea_popescu: well you wouldn't expect them to keep the record.
mircea_popescu: incidentally - the attitude towards stuff like this is becoming the premiere marker of dishonest folk.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: does it have an "acceptable use policy" ? it's a bunch of scumbags.
mircea_popescu: do they delete so and so ? fuck em.
ascii_field: see the 'nationalist' thread
ascii_field: they thought they finally got their wet dream
ascii_field: editable history
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's the clear mark of the "nationalist", aka socialist, libertard - generally speaking idiot.
ascii_field: in the age of newsprint, this was messy, unreliable
mircea_popescu: he whose personality is entirely fictitious has trouble groking the permanence of reality.
mod6: ascii_field: http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rotor-bitcoind-TEST2-debian8-vs-gentoo-objdumps-20150811.txt
mircea_popescu: "we could call it something else" "so you could" "that'd matter right ?" "no."
ascii_field: mod6: i can tell immediately that most of it is displacement
mircea_popescu: - 400163:e8 ed eb 39 00 callq 0x79ed55 + 400163:e8 ef eb 39 00 callq 0x79ed57
mircea_popescu: they all seem one byte offset sort of things like this.
ascii_field: e.g., cmp 0x407451(%rip),%rdi vs cmp 0x4074d1(%rip),%rdi
ascii_field: aha
mircea_popescu: is this a int encoding problem or something ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu also has good eyes
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: no, it is what i said before
ascii_field: string in there somewhere
ascii_field: with a local path
mircea_popescu: oh
ascii_field: because gcc is dripping with idiocy
mircea_popescu: right. makes sense
ascii_field: it wants to be ms vs now
ascii_field: and embeds 'identifiables'
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: what do we do!
ascii_field: a) scrub with a broom
ascii_field: b) wait for me to write auto-scrubber
ascii_field: ^ not priority
mircea_popescu: but it won't run will it ?
ascii_field: it runs
ascii_field: why the hell wouldn't it run
mircea_popescu: k nm me
ascii_field: naturally shit gotta be scrubbed prior to linking
mircea_popescu: soo...
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234555 << i was reading a "book" written by some romanian twerp who thinks himself famous (stand up comedian / singer), sent to me by retired whore (really, if you whore and can't retire by 25 or so, you're too stupid to live) of my generation, for the purpose of "see mr p, i told you the kids are fucktarded". ie, kids, the next set.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 08:41:27; shinohai: No one wants to *do* anything BingoBoingo, they like instant validation you get by repeating whatever someone says on r/bitcoin now.
mircea_popescu: holy shit is the thing stupid. paragraphs have visible training wheels on them
mircea_popescu: "ambrosia" is explained in the text, because for retards.
mircea_popescu: that said, i can admire the guy for taking the time to do what really amounts to daycare for mentally retarded adults. but the thing itself is in-fucking-credible.
mircea_popescu: the whole thing reads like literotica is too advanced now, and it needs rewriting in simpler words with simplified story arcs.
mircea_popescu: and with better reinforcement throughout reinforcement throughout hello there, how goes it, we were talking about story arcs, you know, like bows hehehe, but reinforced throguhout throughout reinforced ps. this was a paragraph, and you read it well done !
mircea_popescu: i am guessing romanian will have to move to a 3 to 4 letters per word mode soon or else it may go out of print.
ascii_field: or they could switch to english aha
mircea_popescu: rite.
ascii_field: rait
mircea_popescu: you know if i ever impregnate an isis fighter i'ma name her kid Rite Rait Al'Right.
mircea_popescu: (btw, if your oral english is your slave not your master, your reading of the name distinguishes the three phonemes. because they are fucking distinct in english omfg)
ascii_field: wright right rite
mircea_popescu: the right-honorable baron rite rait al-right!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22159 @ 0.00060849 = 13.4835 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: Mateusz Kopeć ? whossat.
mircea_popescu: ah random mod of obscure sub-alt-reddit mkay.
mircea_popescu: "I have been putting up ads on backpage letting people know I can teach about and sell them bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: I got a lot of responses, but you know what? I now understand why all of these women are hookers and i don't feel bad for them in the least. They are aggressive, flaky and dont want to understand what is happening around them. All I have been getting is women asking me for free bitcoin to buy their "medication". Its life and death apparently.
mircea_popescu: I have yet to sell a single satoshi."
mircea_popescu: this goes not-so-badly with the earlier link of dooglus' attempt to resurect the mpoe-pr visits the whore forum thing.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why anglos have conflated whoredom and beggary.
mircea_popescu: it's not unlike conflating computer programming and autism, or bewing the runt in a family litter and being the politician.
mircea_popescu: both things they've also done.
mircea_popescu: why does anglo conflate so much and so stupidly ? is it because the 3-4 letter words universe ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is because, proximately, they picked the 'make'em stupid' school of mass management
ascii_field: as far back as 18th c
mircea_popescu: nah, this was the case way WAY before.
mircea_popescu: italian whores were accomplished throughout, like japanese whores.
mircea_popescu: english whores were mostly retarded, like chinese whores.
mircea_popescu: (notable exceptions, here and there, which shows it's not racial but fashio-cultural and fucktardinal)
ascii_field: possibly because ~their~ ruling class was... straight
mircea_popescu: italians ? straight ?! those rotinculo ? dun make me laugh, i might fart myself.
ascii_field: was mostly thinking of jp
mircea_popescu: in any case : the "many users" problem doesn't even need to be approached at the "hey, we need their spam allowed in the blocks more".
mircea_popescu: the bigger problem is that bitcoin coallesces. they won't HAVE any.
ascii_field: already happened, no ?
mircea_popescu: 99.x%.
mircea_popescu: going for 99.999999999999999999
ascii_field: going for the mircea_popescu-and-five-phriends model ?
ascii_field: (fwiw that easily works..)
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 5*10**9 * (100-99.999999999999999999)/100
gribble: 0
mircea_popescu: not even.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234606 << the innovation of fixing by midpoint is actually quite commandable.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 09:27:34; punkman: they gotta manage everything "The midpoint for the yuan is now set at 6.2298 to $1, up from 6.1162 yuan on Monday. The People's Bank of China (POBC) manages the rate through the official midpoint, from which trade can rise or fall 2% on any given day."
mircea_popescu: historically people have tried min/maxing it
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234568 << that was mircea_popescu actually☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 08:56:46; BingoBoingo: When the last pre-0.8 wedge came through I suspected it was a BDB issue but alf was the one to euthanize it at the root.
ascii_field: (see logz)
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/mxGoWZ7.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WfNQjG )
mircea_popescu: hm isn't that ray cis ?
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Ah
mircea_popescu: "The Trotskyist is AGAINST Stalin just as the Communist is FOR him, and, like the majority of Communists, he wants not so much to alter the external world as to feel that the battle for prestige is going in his own favour."
mircea_popescu: heh. i suppose the widespread metanonsense is why people are so lost when confronted with groups utterly disinterested in prestige,
mircea_popescu: and especially in prestige among them.
mircea_popescu: ok, im fucking rewriting this thing.
ascii_field: 'Congress passed the Protect Act after the Supreme Court struck down a broader law prohibiting any visual depictions of minors engaged in sexual activity, including computer-generated imagery and other fakes. The high court ruled that the ban was too broad, and could cover legitimate speech, including Hollywood productions.
ascii_field: In response, the Protect Act narrows the prohibition to cover only depictions that the defendant’s community would consider “obscene.”' << vintage l0l
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13447 @ 0.0006085 = 8.1825 BTC [+]
ascii_field: do x in nyc, walk; do x in iowa - fed prison
ascii_field: ( http://www.wired.com/2010/02/obscene-us-manga-collector-jailed-6-months )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WfP26J )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33845 @ 0.0006085 = 20.5947 BTC [+]
phf: ben_vulpes: http://paste.lisp.org/display/152828#1 << read-sequence reads octets (i.e. unsigned bytes) into an array, so you want (make-array size :element-type '(unsigned-byte 8)) and you also want to then explicitly convert an octet array into a string. later is implementation dependent (since concerns encodings, etc.), ccl has DECODE-STRING-FROM-OCTETS and sbcl OCTETS-TO-STRING, both support encodings. since version is ascii, a naive converte
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HieixP )
phf: r might look like (string-right-trim '(#\Null) (map 'string 'code-char command))
phf: ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/2Q2YKDB << so we were poking at gernika yesterday and it looks like CS didn't fully build. i'll take a look at his "successful" cs build log today, and see what comes up
assbot: dpaste: 2Q2YKDB ... ( http://bit.ly/1Weoti3 )
phf: *with gernika rather
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: https://twitter.com/addelindh/status/631040188010131456
shinohai: LOLZ
ascii_field: obligatory >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2014#885689☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2014 01:30:35; asciilifeform: 'As progressively dumber programmers build progressively more complex systems we will see more of this kind of attempt to paper over coding mistakes with lawyers, sanctions, policies, and laws. Hollywood and the RIAA are usually the most successful at getting the government to do their bidding. Thus I predict that one day Disney will have a Web site where you can buy access to any of their movies.
mod6: ascii_field: for people who'd like to build rotor w/stator or rotor w/TEST2 on i386/i686, is there anything special that they would need to do to this file? rotor_buildroot_dot_config
mod6: comment out: "BR2_ARCH_IS_64=y" ? and set "BR2_i386=y" +
ascii_field: a few places
ascii_field: see the pogotron one for example
mod6: oh ok will look thx.
shinohai: !up ascii_field
hanbot: shinohai: hanbot compiled pogo ? O.o << nein. have built stator "manually" as of last night, tho still need to verify runs as expected, after which will put together notes. have not pogo-ed, rotor trial to come. (ubuntu 10.04 32bit + mod6's gracious help)
shinohai: :/
shinohai: the new rotor script mod6 and I tried this weekend past is so easy a redditard could do it
shinohai: despite a few initial hiccups
shinohai: gofundme.com/gethanbota64bitcomputer
hanbot: hehe i have plenty. they're not available for testing stuff on. craptop, otoh....
shinohai: I love craptops. I did buy 2 surplus lappys last year for btc tho
shinohai: lolz: https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3gk5ll/is_bitcoinxt_an_altcoin_or_a_forkcoin/ctyxvyw?context=3
assbot: Vibr8gKiwi comments on is BitcoinXT an altcoin (or a forkcoin) ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4sbHJ )
trinque: maybe it's a sporkcoin
trinque: pointless, useless compromise
fluffypony: yeah shinohai
fluffypony: that thread is a trainwreck
shinohai: Nary a shred of *actual logic (tm)* to be found.
scoopbot_revived: Implant ID Chips in Citizens Suggests Finnish Politician http://qntra.net/2015/08/implant-id-chips-in-citizens-suggests-finnish-politician/
shinohai: Looks like they even got together and bribed cryptocoin "news" into pleading for them: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/discussion-of-bitcoin-xt-banned-from-bitcoin-subreddit/
assbot: Discussion of Bitcoin-XT Banned from Bitcoin Subreddit - CCN: Financial Bitcoin & Cryptocurrency News ... ( http://bit.ly/1IX41Z4 )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
trinque: "According to Pasi M??enranta because "the people" happily let Google and Facebook track them with smartphones there's no way this could be considered an invasion of privacy by citizens."
trinque: clearly the Nordic system is on the cutting edge, here.
ascii_field: shinohai: recent hearn (nsa) gambit. there's very little the amorphous masses love more than 'omg1111!!! censored!!'
shinohai: ^
trinque: I expect to hear in a few years how backward America is because we don't yet have the chip system.
ascii_field: which lucky nord (can we call'em nords?) will be the first to be carved up for his dog tag ?
ascii_field: (by some enterprising somali)
shinohai: We don't need chips, nsa owns yer cellphones.
shinohai: Every 'murican has one glued to them nearly 24/7
trinque: https://i.stack.imgur.com/zJvkc.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IX5Cy0 )
ascii_field: ^ 'what good is a phone call when you have no mouth' (tm) (r)
ascii_field: at any rate, the art of human collar-making has not stood still! iirc the saudis even hold a patent on proper bomb-n-shock-n-gps collar
ascii_field: with two-way voice, etc
ascii_field: like in the film 'deadlock' but moar internety.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00058919 = 8.9557 BTC [-] {3}
ascii_field: also pictured in, iirc, film 'cloud atlas'
mats: 'cloud atlas' was 5/10
ascii_field: mentioned solely for the cattle collar
thestringpuller: did ascii_field just quote the matrix?
ascii_field: thestringpuller: linked picture was from it.
ascii_field: the scene where the robotic cockroach is implanted
thestringpuller: the last time I opened a link here at work was from MP and yea...awkward...
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/38e117ae408fe1b76a31d0c7a94311a9/tumblr_mh7j07RM3D1r6e6ngo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHhLLF )
shinohai: I ... regret
trinque: meh, one on the right's got some weird going on with her actual equipment iirc
mircea_popescu: as in it's fake ?
shinohai: Ouch >>> http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-miners-lawsuit-340k-default/
assbot: GAW Miners Lawsuit Ends With $340k Default Judgement ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHiP28 )
trinque: mircea_popescu: thought I saw a warty looking thing in a scene with her
trinque: forgot her name
trinque: this, my brain decided to file away for important moments such as now
mircea_popescu: i dunno who the fuck she is.
mircea_popescu: http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2015/04/12/hillary-clinton-good-for-white-feminism/
assbot: Hillary Clinton: Good for White Feminism, Bad for Racial Justice - racismreview.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHjFfv )
mircea_popescu: "While many people are excited about the prospect of the first woman president, I think that a Hillary Clinton presidency will be another in a long series of triumphs for white, corporate feminism and defeats for racial justice."
mircea_popescu: For her part, noted feminist Gloria Steinem said (in 2008) that she supported Clinton over Barack Obama because, “Black men were given the vote a half-century before women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have ascended to positions of power, from the military to the boardroom, before any women…”
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is this stupid ass "noted" ?
mircea_popescu: "today i will drink mumm instead of cliquot, because german froth is so much later!"
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: "Katherine van Wormer Professor of Social Work University of Northern Iowa"
mircea_popescu: it is forbidden to have a course in nonsense.
ascii_field: tell it to usg
mircea_popescu: As for the “lesser of two evils” argument, I just have to quote from Ijeoma Oluo who was saying earlier:
mircea_popescu: Ijeoma Oluo ? srsly ?
mircea_popescu: https://t.co/rfr5pJiK93 << random internet fucktard begging page.
assbot: Support Ijeoma Oluo creating Words. Angry Words. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nokyt1 )
BingoBoingo: ;;ud Aye Papi
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=aye+papi | aye papi. The new term, replacing "my ovaries," that sexually frustrated teenage girls use to describe a hot guy. Usually used on Twitter by Directioners.
mircea_popescu: i have never heard either used ?!
shinohai: I have heard "papi" quite a bit, usually from Mexican escorts.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: spiffy orwell remake btw
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38077 @ 0.00060006 = 22.8485 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: does it work ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai that just means daddy
shinohai: Oh I know what it means ;)
mircea_popescu: what's a directioner ?
shinohai: Papi chulo, etc
shinohai: Directioner? idk
mats: boy band. 'One Direction'
shinohai: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Directioner
assbot: Urban Dictionary: Directioner ... ( http://bit.ly/1NomJgc )
shinohai: oh ^
trinque: every moronic thing has an "us" you can join these days
trinque: click here to join the burrito bandwagon!
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/11/us-iran-nuclear-kerry-idUSKCN0QG1V020150811 << do I detect Chinese pressure here?
assbot: Dollar could suffer if U.S. walks away from Iran deal: John Kerry| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1Non7LV )
shinohai: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/traders-busted-after-enlisting-hackers-to-play-stock-market-to-net-100-million-2015-08-11 <<<lulzy too
assbot: Traders busted after enlisting hackers to play stock market to net $100 million - MarketWatch ... ( http://bit.ly/1h0Wpis )
mircea_popescu: but yes, he's right. obama has managed to put the us in the worst position of all
mircea_popescu: now it has to buy its foreign policy from iran ffs.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: 'Over five years, two computer hackers living in Ukraine broke into U.S. newswire services including Business Wire and PRNewswire and stole more than 100,000 press releases for publicly traded companies before their release. Those documents, which included earnings data, were distributed to a network of traders who used the advance knowledge to buy or sell securities based on how they anticipated the market would react to
ascii_field: the announcements, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission complaint.'
ascii_field: ^ only loyal aryans may front-run!
mircea_popescu: “The reality of the situation is that the U.S. dollar hasn’t been this strong in decades. The thought that it could be replaced as a reserve currency is laughable at this point on a geopolitical basis and nothing in the Iran deal even remotely touches upon that issue,” he added.
mircea_popescu: lulzy.
trinque: https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M1SL
assbot: M1 Money Stock - FRED - St. Louis Fed ... ( http://bit.ly/1NonWUI )
trinque: uh huh
trinque: and that's according to their bullshit numbers
mircea_popescu: " Obama has never ruled out military force if negotiations failed"
mircea_popescu: ahahaha o lordy.
mircea_popescu would like to see this one.
mircea_popescu: "Thanks for your comment, dumspirospero! I appreciate your appreciation of the post."
mircea_popescu: i hereby validate one derp's appreciation of the other derp's appreciation of the first derp's appreciations on issues she doesn't understand and wasn't really asked about.
mircea_popescu: anyone care to appreciate my validation so we can make it a social media ?
shinohai: I concur! You're now popular!
trinque: mircea_popescu: I appreciate the opportunity to take part in this meta-appreciation. upboated, or something
mircea_popescu: we are moving the conversation to the left!
trinque: I can feel a consensus building already
shinohai: Yay deddit, we did it!
mircea_popescu: where's that bottle of queefs
trinque: I bet gloria steinem has one
mircea_popescu: “White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”
mircea_popescu: let's play guess the genius.
ascii_field: mao ?
BingoBoingo: Elijah Muhammed
mircea_popescu: mnope.
mircea_popescu: neithert
ascii_field: gandhi
BingoBoingo: Farrakan
mircea_popescu: neither.
BingoBoingo: It sounds very Nation of Islam...
mircea_popescu: it actually isn't.
mircea_popescu: but yeah
trinque: doesn't sound like a very sharp guy if you ask me
mircea_popescu: very sharp actually.
mircea_popescu: reverend al sharpton in point of fact.
ascii_field: l0l!
trinque: hehe
mircea_popescu: how exactly did some us black guy get his "we" to include i presume egyptians, which weren't black while he wasn't in africa, is anyone's guess.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this particular delusion is known to have originated with a particular academitard, but his name escapes me
mircea_popescu: i suppose they got numbers from the indians while they were exploring zanzibar
ascii_field: soviet elephants are the biggest elephants (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: the island 50 miles off the coast which you can see on a clear day, but which the mud packing philosophers and astrologo-mathematicians of a certain complexion failed to find,
mircea_popescu: pewople had to come from fucking indonesia
mircea_popescu: anyway. a truly very liberal gent.
ascii_field: madagascar aha
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> mircea_popescu: this particular delusion is known to have originated with a particular academitard, but his name escapes me << Actually harder to pin down. Variations had been going on in Black Christian circles since the early 1800's at least, but Nation of Islam really brought this crazy to the mainstream
ascii_field: was speaking of ancient egypt specifically
mircea_popescu: fwiw, thjere's a contingent of deranged romanians who believe zamolxis taught the romans to read.
mircea_popescu: they even had statal support for a while.
ascii_field: the ducks are unloaded from the trucks!
mircea_popescu: and obviously usians have their own john smiths etc.
mircea_popescu: so...
mircea_popescu: every group lays the same pretense. irrespective of the justification. much like every absoute monarchy sooner or later got around to deriving the monarch from the sun
mircea_popescu: poor star had no fucking idea how many women it had impregnated, from paris to shanghai
mircea_popescu: if only it exercised safer sex.
shinohai: I think my favorite Al Sharptonism is "Jewing the numbers"
trinque: is that like... counting with them?
shinohai: It's a broad statement.
mircea_popescu: more like making them come out to him being a parasite.
gernika: BingoBoingo was there not a Nubian dynasty that ruled Egypt at some point? Apparently lasted 75 years?
mircea_popescu: there was also a circassian one presumably.
BingoBoingo: gernika: Nubian isn't West African
mircea_popescu: nubia is what used to be kush, today's sudan
mircea_popescu: "upper egypt"
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/KobQKdF.png << related to mircea_popescu 's trap picture earlier
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1h0ZU8m )
mircea_popescu: uh... what does he mean women "won't do this" ?!
trinque: what's this, trap supremacy?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the theory is that "italians have forgotten how to sing and only french royal comedy institute knows anymore"
mircea_popescu: actual argument, in actual debate, at the time of diderot & co
shinohai: hue
trinque goes to code in a van down by the river
trinque: more like vw, and more like next to it, but whatever!
BingoBoingo: http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aPy6r0P_700b_v2.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1gxMJep )
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00060006 = 14.7015 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35379 @ 0.00058231 = 20.6015 BTC [-] {5}
shinohai: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/russia-may-ban-reddit-over-thread-how-grow-narcotic-plants-642566 looooooooooool
assbot: Russia May Ban Reddit Over Thread on 'How to Grow Narcotic Plants' ... ( http://bit.ly/1gxNSCC )
mircea_popescu: censorsheep!
shinohai: I kek'd
shinohai: And I just got delivered a fifth of some kind of brandy.
shinohai: tasty