log☇︎
⏐︎ 6850
shinohai: weird.
trinque: this affects the bot's ability to verify that the transaction went through, and hence, its ability to subsequently spend that output
trinque: well, we just need to ship you to turkmenistan or w/e and solve it
pete_dushenski: i hear baku is a happening spot these days.
pete_dushenski: sorta in the same region.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1261991 << though turkmenistan does have some pretty wicked bus stops with broken air conditioning ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 22:25:09; pete_dushenski: http://imgur.com/a/VMbQ7 << turkmeni curio
shinohai: I must set up shop in glorious nation of Kazakhstan ....
jurov: trinque: it connects at random?
jurov: from what i see from the logs, foundation node rejects them as nonstandard
pete_dushenski: shinohai: heh.
trinque: jurov: yeah, I am going to try switching to a foundation node.
pete_dushenski: http://www.hok.com/uploads/2012/09/27/baku-tower03new.jpg http://inhalemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Zaha-Hadid-Architects_Baku.jpg << some of the out-there architecture baku has built lately. definitely splashy!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0Xrgj )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0Xrgp )
mircea_popescu: !up wpalczynski
pete_dushenski: baku will also host the f1 european grand prix in 2016. first for 'stans' afaik.
pete_dushenski: (how azerbaijan is in 'europe' is for ecclestone to answer) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-11-2015#1333707 << win. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-11-2015 20:51:01; mod6: All: Version '99997 K' of V has been posted to ML & website: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20151129.tar.gz && http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20151129.tar.gz.mod6.sig
mircea_popescu: lol @ the "feminist anarchist" gargle. yay, Michelle Goldberg, you go roar girl.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-11-2015#1333730 << more fundamentally, not like they're going to fuck the women. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-11-2015 21:38:08; pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: not like low class germans/usians/brits/etc. are going to do the factory jobs. all these countries have negative birth rates and huge ponzi pyramids to prop up. not like they have options OTHER than immigration.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-11-2015#1333736 << so the recall is not worth doing. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-11-2015 21:41:41; pete_dushenski: "When monetizing premature mortality using EPA-recommended data, we find a social cost of ~$450m over the sales period. For the current fleet, we estimate that a return to compliance for all affected vehicles by the end of 2016 will avert ~130 early deaths and avoid ~$840m in social costs compared to a counterfactual case without recall." << lulzy volkswagen emissions 'impact research'
mircea_popescu: also, 130 early deaths are not worth 840mn.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.000502 = 2.8614 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: the syrians will do it for 50k.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-11-2015#1333756 << welcome to 1990. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-11-2015 22:02:16; ascii_field: at this point i fully believe that editor and compiler must be THE SAME PROGRAM
pete_dushenski: and 840 mn < 35 bn or whatever number was being bandied about for 'recall cost'.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.0005101 = 4.2593 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: "spend 35bn to save 50k we call 1bn because all numbers are the same number. WE ARE HUMANISTS DAMNIT"
pete_dushenski: "and we needs moar gdp grooth!"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-11-2015#1333780 << i know a few people with a billion views who never saw a million dollars. so... no. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-11-2015 22:51:01; pete_dushenski: "YouTube pays up to $4 (£2.47) per 1,000 views, meaning the most popular hosts can earn a substantial sum of money." << such bullshit. i bet anything this figure is from 2009.
pete_dushenski: or what was it 'ngdp' now.
mircea_popescu: it's fdp. FAIR DOMESTIC PRODUCT
mircea_popescu: the other one was gross.
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 385959 | Current Difficulty: 7.272278064254718E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 387071 | Next Difficulty In: 1112 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 11 hours, 6 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: oddly, my node is fine.
mircea_popescu: trinque if you're running it in cramped position you could just follow the republic nodes i guess
pete_dushenski remembers learning about shift from 'gnp' to 'gdp' as boy and apparent shadiness of this bait-and-switch even then
mircea_popescu: have the firewall set up so it can only connect to them (deny from all accept from X Y Z) as a way around the incredibly braindamaged way the client itself handles connections
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski what was shady ? there's nothing national about corporations.
mircea_popescu: http://inhalemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Zaha-Hadid-Architects_Baku.jpg << i absolutely hate this stupid shit.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0Xrgp )
mircea_popescu: architecture made by humanists for humanists. "here, look how insignificant the human is!!11"
mircea_popescu: fuck you.
pete_dushenski: palace at versailles yields different impression, yes, that of "holy fuck how did they even think of that level of detailing?" and "holy cramoly where did they even find craftsman to make that?"
pete_dushenski: 'modern' architecture is more "look what we made materials do. at least until it rains!"
jurov: mircea_popescu: how much memory it has available? i have seen newly started node gain 60MB RSS in a hour (my experimental limiter did not kick in due to bug)
mircea_popescu: jurov 64gb
jurov: l0l
mircea_popescu: w3ut
jurov: obv it's fine
mircea_popescu: well this isn't a pogo what am i to do.
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The distant future of Bitcoin miner defection. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/29/the-distant-future-of-bitcoin-miner-defection/
pete_dushenski: and with that, ima a be on my merry way. cheers !
trinque: mircea_popescu │ trinque if you're running it in cramped position you could just follow the republic nodes i guess << I've got space; perhaps cramped in other ways. For now I'll switch to the foundation bitcoind. If there are still problems, I'll move the node to a separate instance with undisclosed IP and communicate inside AWS. If that still has problems, would actually be pretty interesting.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/be14e31df8a813c2e77598b73e5c052b/tumblr_ms2pf6z7wN1rdybpyo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0Z6CB )
trinque: mod6: would latest script in the logs not have the right V hash?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0005101 = 4.5909 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: fucking freenode.
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/c2b420ef3570b64c51825391319f3e31/tumblr_mo7k4n5SI21s7u4o4o1_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkfOXV )
mod6: <+trinque> mod6: would latest script in the logs not have the right V hash? << Hmm?
mod6: oh the rotor+TEST2 script? Yeah, that needs to be updated.
trinque: k
mod6: I'll post an updated version here tonight. Thanks.
mod6: :]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2529 @ 0.000502 = 1.2696 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-11-2015#1333627 < the thread is all over the place. for certain, not all, things i find this worse than the shape of a classic forum. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-11-2015 17:51:30; mircea_popescu: line rather than paragraph ?
mircea_popescu: as far as im concerned the classic forum is unusable because it is perfectly unable to handle quotation. it's the same exact problem of "inline" comment display for wordpress : you end up either with an arbitrary node depth or else single character lines
mircea_popescu: suppose i quote two different things respondent. the thread should now split, as a tree. it does not do that.
mircea_popescu: if it doesn't do that might as well forget the pretense and do this.
kakobrekla: it shouldnt split (although it can be) and as it is now it cant ever split.
danielpbarron: that's what i liked about twitter-- the forking of threads and chaining of replies. These days it's been ruined with some algorithmic sorting
kakobrekla: here have b-a, 100 megs of text thread. yay.
danielpbarron: irc is an old favorite of mine. Been using it since 2004 (although i took a several years break from 2008 till i found this place)
danielpbarron: still have all my old logs burned on a cd
jurov: BingoBoingo: hopefully better stuff than murican passports: http://dpaste.com/1102V9J
assbot: dpaste: 1102V9J: qntra, by jurov ... ( http://bit.ly/1TmaKmA )
kakobrekla: it was acceptable in the old days of b-a when we werent actually been doing anything. now theres n projects being juggled and its a pain.
mircea_popescu kinda likes it.
kakobrekla: yeah i know you like pain.
mircea_popescu: i mean, for as long as there isn't a solution, the best thing to do is not pretend to solve the problem
kakobrekla: especially inflicted on others. :p
mircea_popescu: lmao
kakobrekla: before a solution is found, the problem needs recognition, no?
mircea_popescu: certainly.
mircea_popescu: i confess i dunno what the problem is. this certainly should not mean no problem exists.
mircea_popescu: one thing i can see : the conversation graph is incredibly complex. there's two practical ways to present it : either as a flat file without any structure other than what's provided by the author ; or else as a properly restated graph, which will do a lot of node replication as oyu have to unwind the rat's nest of reference.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00050574 = 3.439 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: as far as the later thing is concerned, it's not clear it actually is any better (because you will necessarily have to read EVEN MORE), we know from experience that machines can not do this, and contemporary semiotics seems to indicate the task is intractable in principle.
kakobrekla: the problem is poor separation of threads. i have been actually thinking about this a few weeks ago and though i might add forward linking to the logs, along with the existing back linking
mircea_popescu: if you recall we were toying with the idea of getting someone to summarize the logs. fluffypony even offered to finance it. nobody could be found.
mircea_popescu: the recent experience of gabrielradio trying on the (imo easier) task of translating trilema articles makes me think it will NEVER be done.
kakobrekla: not all problems are solvable by slaves.
mircea_popescu: but the idea of forward links is good i think
kakobrekla: unless 'rabotnik'.
mircea_popescu: the thing is tho, from my own experience reading logs, every time i try to jump forward in time i end up with a mess. works much better for me to read them serially and think about it that way. which is why i parse the logs to this day, years later.
mircea_popescu: but who knows
mircea_popescu: anyway, slaves schmlaves. i tried to do it myself, the summarization of logs, gave up in anger.
kakobrekla: summary isnt really the cure here
kakobrekla: say i wanna reread everything that was said about 'v', i have two options;
kakobrekla: 1. read last 30 megs of logs
kakobrekla: 2. go fuck myself
kakobrekla: 2 is actually 1 in another words.
mircea_popescu: if you had a summary you would in principle be able to.
mircea_popescu: think the old system of "library cards" or "study notes"
mircea_popescu: which is how intellectual life organized the large conversation back when people still had an intellectual life.
kakobrekla: id be able to tune it down to 10 megs instead of 30. out of 100k needed.
mircea_popescu: no, the idea is you keep your own lecture notes, which are not necessarily equal to another's.
mircea_popescu: uni professor comes before the class of 100 kids, reads the 30mb of log,
mircea_popescu: this results in 100 mutually incomparable sets of 1-3 mb notes.
mircea_popescu: the total size has balooned but each person has their own comfortable paths cut through the field, like so many mice.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.000502 = 1.8825 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: but so stated (say i wanna reread everything that x), the problem is obvious to me too. we're in danger of losing it.
kakobrekla: better comparison than professor seems to me a giant book that contains everything without any order or index or chapters or ...
kakobrekla: not even the professor can use it!
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: certainly all sorts of buried gems in there by now that all of 3 people maybe know about.
mircea_popescu: pete_d has been trying in his own way to fight this i gather, with mixed results.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00050121 = 5.789 BTC [-] {3}
phf: i keep bookmarks around, per subject that i'm interested in, or mp/ascii dialogues that i might want to reread. a solution that i was thinking of hacking up in my own system is ranged highlights, basically same idea as on trilema, but instead of point-to-point it's entries and ranges. so on subject of v the link becomes entries=333,350-380,490-492,500-505. perhaps that sort of bookmarks can be shared, to have an illuminated log
kakobrekla: the best way to keep a house tidy is not messing it up in the first place
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28002 @ 0.0005096 = 14.2698 BTC [+] {4}
kakobrekla: second best is to have a house keeper, but that has failed.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla in general the housewives that succeed in their life's work of "getting everyone to stop messing up the house" are ~a year away from having to decide if they wish to file for divorce or just come to terms with the fact that the husband lives with a younger woman now.
kakobrekla: you dont have to get married, you can just pay.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean you!
mircea_popescu: heck, are you even a woman ?!
kakobrekla: sounds like tits but means dick.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00051009 = 3.3921 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00050089 = 1.2021 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00051009 = 22.495 BTC [+] {4}
phf: ;;isup files.bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: files.bitcoin-assets.com is up
kakobrekla: problem?
phf: yeah.. not actually getting a connection
kakobrekla: did you do a lot of requests?
phf: from my machine only though. is there some kind of tripwire there?
phf: yes
kakobrekla: triggerhappy banhammer id guess
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> jurov 64gb << My node also fine on 8gb 0.7-ish
kakobrekla: phf static ip?
phf: kakobrekla: not on my home machine, but if you can write in an exception i have an ip for you
kakobrekla: i can, pm.
phf: i patched my script to do HEAD on files to ensure that i'm up to date, probably doing them in loop on the entire set is what triggered
kakobrekla: a yup.
kakobrekla: server is still sort of in war mode since the last ddos attacks
BingoBoingo: <jurov> BingoBoingo: hopefully better stuff than murican passports: http://dpaste.com/1102V9J << Editing it nao
assbot: dpaste: 1102V9J: qntra, by jurov ... ( http://bit.ly/1TmaKmA )
punkman: zaoshang
mod6: trinque, et. al: The updated [version 99997 K] rotot v054-TEST2 (via `V') script: http://dpaste.com/3J5SA2V.txt ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmteVM )
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-11-2015#1333821 << oh you don't understand, europe is everywhere! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EU_European_Neighbourhood_Policy_states.svg ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-11-2015 00:12:56; pete_dushenski: (how azerbaijan is in 'europe' is for ecclestone to answer)
assbot: File:EU European Neighbourhood Policy states.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmtjbW )
trinque: mod6: neato!
trinque: building now
BingoBoingo: jurov: Published
BingoBoingo: Added conclusion, made a few other edits
deedbot-: [Qntra] Recent "SigOp" "Attack" On The Blockchain Or Advanced Power Rangering - http://qntra.net/2015/11/recent-sigop-attack-on-the-blockchain-or-advanced-power-rangering/
mircea_popescu: excellent write-up.
mircea_popescu: thumbsup jurov
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00050157 = 2.4075 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: remains staying outside of the Core fork << spurious staying
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ukj2j/balaji_s_srinivasan_on_twitter_the_day_is_coming/ <<< in other news anon redditards write whitepapers about trilema, forget to mention it's about trilema.
assbot: Balaji S. Srinivasan on Twitter: The day is coming when Google must bulk purchase Bitcoin to crawl the machine-payable web : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1XChT2Y )
mod6: thanks trinque, let me know how it goes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00051009 = 3.3666 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: http://i.imgur.com/UkGnUE3.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmvrAn )
BingoBoingo: fxd
phf: punkman: looks like a neti pot alternative for BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Nope. Doesn't involve nearly enough chemicals.
BingoBoingo: And my nose doesn't need to identify as transJewMayoQueer
punkman: tramazoline hydrochloride and dexamethasone is a good combination
mircea_popescu: whenever trinque is the 2nd word in a sentence my latin parser kids in
mircea_popescu: and i go &trin... wait, wut ?
punkman: http://www.centralbank.org.bb/news/article/8827/should-cryptocurrencies-be-included-in-the-portfolio-of-international-reserves
mircea_popescu: i hope they come up with "yes" as the answer.
punkman: they did
mircea_popescu: seeing how the only question is "what fraction of bitcoin reserves is safe to be kept as fiat"
BingoBoingo: punkman: Isn't dexamethasone the bad kind of steroid?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14392 @ 0.0005018 = 7.2219 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: BingoBoingo: no idea, but best unclogger I can get locally
BingoBoingo suspects cocaine would be surpremely effective, but the whole sobriety thing
trinque: nah, coke boogers
phf: that's why you disolve it an alcohol and drink
punkman: re: irc threads, suppose we had a client that merge multiple channels into a single stream
punkman: also, anyone remember google wave
BingoBoingo: phf: Or saline to spray
BingoBoingo: !up jurov
punkman: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html there really is a XEP for everything.
assbot: XEP-0201: Best Practices for Message Threads ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7vPkN )
BingoBoingo: punkman: Only through XML does a line of text become a "stanza"
punkman: indeed
BingoBoingo: !up jurov
trinque: mod6: built nicely and munching blocks
trinque: very nice :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4037 @ 0.00050364 = 2.0332 BTC [+]
punkman: "2001: Goat set on fire on 23 December by Lawrence Jones, a 51-year-old visitor from Cleveland, Ohio in the United States, who spent 18 days in jail and was subsequently convicted and ordered to pay 100,000 Swedish kronor in damages. The court confiscated Jones' cigarette lighter with the argument that he clearly was not able to handle it. Jones stated in court that he was no "goat burner",
punkman: and believed that he was taking part in a completely legal goat-burning tradition. After Jones was released from jail he went straight back to the US without paying his fine. As of 2006 it was still unpaid."
punkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A4vle_goat
assbot: Gävle goat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1PVoNkF )
fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqxNbGvNamY&feature=youtu.be
assbot: Lovesong for Satoshi Nakamoto Whitepaper (Taylor Swift: Everything Has Changed Parody) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PVpURb )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3913 @ 0.00050364 = 1.9707 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wtf is a xep
punkman: http://i.imgur.com/DKEdgAH.jpg hot farmer from teh island spotted in protests, chased by journo/twitter-tards with modeling offers
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MYXY9k )
mircea_popescu: lol
punkman: http://www.enikos.gr/data/photos/462f3f1313efae44b41ec9456389e309.jpg oh I guess had to give them something
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MYY2Gf )
punkman: but said on tv he'd rather live with teh animals
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.0005077 = 2.9954 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1A42V7Q.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MYYHXY )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, https://reason.com/blog/2015/11/29/the-nsa-will-stop-collecting-your-phone
assbot: The NSA Will Stop Collecting Your Phone Metadata Tonight! - Hit & Run : Reason.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1lTBi3w )
mircea_popescu: "Mr. Paul has made his opposition to the Patriot Act a key plank of his 2016 White House campaign and argued that the program hasn’t foiled a specific terrorist plot.
mircea_popescu: Obama administration officials don’t dispute that, but say it has helped connect the dots on potential threats."
mircea_popescu: "it doesn't do anything useful" "yes but we're women, we like make-up"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6156 @ 0.0005077 = 3.1254 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3412 @ 0.0005101 = 1.7405 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for your consideration http://dpaste.com/14EM572
assbot: dpaste: 14EM572 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MPokwH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.0005073 = 7.3051 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7319 @ 0.00050601 = 3.7035 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6636 @ 0.0005101 = 3.385 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9608 @ 0.00050601 = 4.8617 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10078 @ 0.0005101 = 5.1408 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9277 @ 0.00050197 = 4.6568 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: !isup mpex.ws
adlai: ;;isup mpex.ws
gribble: mpex.ws is up
adlai: byzantine dns are the best failures
punkman: I was reading more about cjdns yesterday, anyone here run a node?
punkman: !s cjdns
assbot: 12 results for 'cjdns' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cjdns
punkman: trying to figure out which parts are stupid, I'm still wondering why this thing has passwords
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00050044 = 2.6023 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00050041 = 2.2769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2023 @ 0.00050078 = 1.0131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20877 @ 0.0005101 = 10.6494 BTC [+]
punkman: ah of course https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/doc/bugs/black-hole.md
assbot: cjdns/black-hole.md at master · cjdelisle/cjdns · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IjmzZO )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00050041 = 3.0775 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00049969 = 7.0456 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.0005005 = 3.5285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12654 @ 0.0004988 = 6.3118 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6369 @ 0.00049849 = 3.1749 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9631 @ 0.0004978 = 4.7943 BTC [-]
punkman: http://imgur.com/gallery/5B2gM
assbot: These abandoned Yugoslavian monuments look like alien relics - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1jtg1Mu )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00050724 = 3.6521 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12041 @ 0.00051011 = 6.1422 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34945756
assbot: Campaigners target online trolls by putting their comments on billboards - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NDtXkU )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8384 @ 0.00049867 = 4.1808 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7815 @ 0.00050165 = 3.9204 BTC [+]
punkman: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 377.68, Best ask: 378.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.32000, Last trade: 378.03, 24 hour volume: 46799.13590388, 24 hour low: 361.3, 24 hour high: 384.99, 24 hour vwap: None
punkman: http://www.welivesecurity.com/2015/11/27/online-payment-trends/
assbot: Russians embrace Bitcoins, the West sticks with PayPal ... ( http://bit.ly/1XrFhFC )
mircea_popescu: so : the new proxy list is http://mpex.biz/ ; http://mpex.co/ ; http://mpex.re/ ; http://mpex.site/ ☟︎
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lUmWjo )
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lUmYI4 )
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lUmYYF )
mircea_popescu: they all currently work, ill add some redirects from .the abandoned domains
mircea_popescu: !v ascii_field
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: danke mircea_popescu. mega-ddos on this side of the sea
ascii_field: (or possibly eveywhere)
mircea_popescu: yeah there's some turmoil.
ascii_field: freenode mostly dead afaik
mircea_popescu: davout gribble is not lying!
davout: let's say gribble and i had our own individual reality perceptions
mircea_popescu: not so surprising
mircea_popescu: and speaking of alternate reality perceptions : both namecheap and internet.bs THINK they hold the registration of qntra.net currently.
mircea_popescu: which makes about as much sense as anything to do with dns, really.
mircea_popescu: anyone see namecheap on the qntra.net whois for my curiosity ?
mircea_popescu: (Registrar: ENOM, INC. as for some reason the derps don't use their own license)
shinohai: Why all the hate on freenode suddenly?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.0005065 = 6.1287 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: shinohai: could be just ddosing for teh lulz
shinohai: I forget it is holiday season and skiddies are home from skool.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that such a thing matters anymore. that was more of a consideration in the 90s, back when there existed some sort of school discipline.
shinohai sheds a tear for the 90's anyway.
ascii_field: aha, 90s, when a few things still kinda worked
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9087 @ 0.00050382 = 4.5782 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11461 @ 0.00050947 = 5.839 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: could smell the desperation in the air growing up in the 90s
deedbot-: [Qntra] Clinton Found A Turkey! - http://qntra.net/2015/11/clinton-found-a-turkey/
trinque: substituting the dot-com bubble in industry's place was the loudest admission of "we have nothing left to say" we could've made
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 65 @ 0.03203415 = 2.0822 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6148 @ 0.00050301 = 3.0925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00051011 = 2.6271 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: trinque there's films from the late 70s and all through the 80s going "hey, us better shape up or we're fucked"
mircea_popescu: those people retired, their kids grew up with this "if i don't look uner the bed there's no bugaboo there" outlook on life and everything.
mircea_popescu: so they didn't look under the bed.
shinohai: http://thenextweb.com/socialmedia/2015/11/30/racist-trolls-are-being-shamed-with-billboards-showing-their-abusive-messages-near-their-homes/ <<< keks ?
assbot: Racist trolls are being shamed with billboards showing their messages ... ( http://bit.ly/1LIUGFo )
mircea_popescu: except the name and photo is blurred
mircea_popescu: so "imaginary inexistent problems are being advertised into existence"
BingoBoingo: http://thecodelesscode.com/case/216
assbot: The Codeless Code: Case 216 Proxy ... ( http://bit.ly/1NiMUDc )
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how would you have designed the "securing of bitcoin-gold" differently from the current mining scheme?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00051012 = 6.6061 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: i have no idea.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4018 @ 0.00051057 = 2.0515 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12812 @ 0.00050635 = 6.4874 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3988 @ 0.00050635 = 2.0193 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: http://fi2.eu.apcdn.com/medium/m_137739.webm
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoyKXN )
phf should try this it at a towncenter skating rink
mircea_popescu: !up epscy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4422 @ 0.00050807 = 2.2467 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/30/us-imf-china-idUSKBN0TJ24Q20151130
assbot: IMF gives China's currency prized reserve asset status| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1TgxKD5 )
ben_vulpes: sink or swim together
pete_dushenski: stop-gap to bitcoin holdings
pete_dushenski: a la bahamas
pete_dushenski: the great glorious excellent nation of bahamas : the world leader in yeswecan to an extent and degree unmatched by that 2008 u.s. campaigner who illegally infringed upon that great glorious excellent nation's copyright.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes one obvious approach is, fixed rate inflation, rather than decaying inflation. each block reward is say 1/10k the current monetary base.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.01 ^ (365 * 24 * 6)
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.01 ** (365 * 24 * 6)
gribble: 135333718752523466540573106042628432055911602460618903710704269253995023846817750502886890076312566572898099093916102382877626934526614405069286742417062776649301025325594853915948015903010075829150673448663250840479675447246848
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.0001 ** (365 * 24 * 6)
gribble: 191.662730907
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.00003 ** (365 * 24 * 6)
gribble: 4.83933032461
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.000013 ** (365 * 24 * 6)
gribble: 1.98035388537
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.0000023 ** (365 * 24 * 6)
gribble: 1.12849835657
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.00000019 ** (365 * 24 * 6)
gribble: 1.01003642953
mircea_popescu: alright, so each block reward is say 17/100000000 of the total monetary base.
mircea_popescu: seeing how historically, inflation between .5 and 1% a year seems to correlate with a maximum on the wealth creation graph.
mircea_popescu: (inflation has important implications in dampening the generational conflict, see http://trilema.com/2015/the-rainmaker/#footnote_1_63948 etc)
assbot: The Rainmaker on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TgyW9A )
mircea_popescu: the other obvious approach is probably at the root of the "proof of stake" retardedness.
mircea_popescu: neither of these seems to work well even theoretically, let alone the practical mess they entail. it is probable an alternative interpretation of reality through the bitcoin twisted mirror actually exists, but i'm not where i can see it.
mircea_popescu: !v ascii_field
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: da fuck
ascii_field: fingers have will of their own, eh
mircea_popescu: fixated on this !v thing today
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: possibly i'm thick, but i don't see how inflation is a pill against miner defection
ascii_field: they get moar coin, yes, continuing reward, but of a ~fundamentally shittier~ coin
mircea_popescu: you understand that the bitcoin (holder, miner) set is an exact translation of the irl (old fart, young cock) set yes ?
ascii_field: aha
ascii_field: where i lose the mental thread is the part where this is somehow curable
mircea_popescu: inflation is a transfer of wealth from old to young, to mirror the transfer of relevancy.
ascii_field: i don't see it
mircea_popescu: absent this, the society cycles, with old schmucks masskilled periodically.
ascii_field: this i also don't see - where i live, inflation is mainly a hammer keeping young schmucks down
ascii_field: (old farts invest in things)
ascii_field: young - gets fixed salary which inflates (and shrinkflates!) away
mircea_popescu: yes, it would encourage holders of btc to also hold miners./
ascii_field: quickly enough to see with naked eye
mircea_popescu: note, i did not for a second propose these are good, or even above 0 solutions. they are not.
mircea_popescu: but i was discussing obvious translations from irl to btc.
ascii_field: ah
mircea_popescu: he asked me how i'd do it. i said i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: i then looked into the obvious, and the obvious obviously doesn\t work.
ascii_field: btc is an interesting thing imho in a good part ~because~ it specifically refrained from trying to solve this
mircea_popescu: quite possibly.
mircea_popescu: hence my comment comparing to a holywood star. it wasn't idle words.
mircea_popescu: the key advantage of fiction is that it's not required to tell any part of the story it doesn't want to.
ascii_field bbl
mircea_popescu: notably enough,
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 17000000 * 0.00000017
gribble: 2.89
mircea_popescu: by this formula current btc inflation is almost 10x as high as it should be.
pete_dushenski: ha one man's model vs. the market
pete_dushenski: who invited all the economists !
mircea_popescu: which kinda is why the discussion was about a time far, far away. four to five halvings into the future this matter becomes important.
mircea_popescu: because once that magical line is crossed, we'll start seeing cycling behaviour.
pete_dushenski: cycling to altchains ?
ben_vulpes: if the market can algorithmically price inflation in though, does the notion of inflation even make sense?
ben_vulpes: yes the monetary base is changing in size, but we all know to what degree.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: generational cycling
pete_dushenski: aha.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean "can algorithmically price" and what do you mean make sense ?
mircea_popescu: and, notably, we don't even know generational re-bitcoin is actually such a bad idea. it's true that some, few and far between, old people have relevancy for young people, and that a minority of teens will gladly spread for a VERY thin minority of "come see my new movie. with catherine zeta jones. raaa!"
ben_vulpes: well i know that i own m/n of the monetary supply today, and m/n+whatever at t sub whatever in the future
mircea_popescu: but that doesn't mean that bulk and wholesale old people have anything to trade with young people, or vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: so heck, maybe a new bitcoin every ~30 years is actually the correct state.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ok... ?
ben_vulpes: nah, this ain't cooked yet.
ben_vulpes: might not be cookable.
pete_dushenski: "Now that my fellow executives and I are goddamn beverage conquistadors, we’re going to enjoy this cocaine-fueled rocket ride for as long as it lasts. I’m blasting off to fucking Mars, dicksuckers, and I’m headed straight through the belly of the goddamn sun!" << obligatory, if indeed it's the case that 30 years is the best case (or ideal case) scenario for the time alloted us.
pete_dushenski: as seen in www.contravex.com/2014/09/25/we-gon-party-like-its-19-hold-up-it-is/
mircea_popescu: anyway, not so sure the brief post ww2 experience of the us bovines has or should have much place in this conversation.
mircea_popescu: it's true that young kids in the us aren't qualified to be toddlers, and it's true that as a result they sheepishly accept salaries that are a decaying joke.
mircea_popescu: this onlyt happens because the old farts feel safe, and they feel safe because the kids aren't alright, not by a damn sight.
mircea_popescu: but this is also typical of terminal empires, so in my view the whole experience of the united states can be simply >/dev/null
mircea_popescu: for the needs of this conversation, as well as so many others.
BingoBoingo: Update: "Police say a man, 60, confronted the boy and two other juveniles in a rear alley..." "Police sought charges against the man Sunday" http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/boy-fatally-shot-in-st-louis-while-stealing-from-car/article_252388c0-9390-5b72-8a27-aab5c3249055.html
assbot: Boy, 13, fatally shot in St. Louis while stealing from car, police say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1lqu1YA )
mircea_popescu: heh
BingoBoingo: goes with
BingoBoingo: !s chuck norris rule
assbot: 0 results for 'chuck norris rule' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=chuck+norris+rule
BingoBoingo: http://takimag.com/article/old_white_guys_and_the_chuck_norris_rule_david_cole/print
assbot: Old White Guys and the Chuck Norris Rule - Taki's Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1lquhqv )
BingoBoingo: Apparently USia is turning into country for nobody but old men
pete_dushenski: "Trump was taking Obama to task for his past remarks that global climate change is one of the greatest threats facing the United States and the world. "I think one of the dumbest statements I've ever heard in politics -- in the history of politics as I know it, which is pretty good, was Obama's statement that our No. 1 problem is global warming,""
pete_dushenski: ""I think it's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen, or perhaps most naïve," Trump said. "He actually is somewhat naïve, if you want to know the truth, beyond the incompetent part.""
deedbot-: [Qntra] Two Cans And String Support XTCoin Revival - http://qntra.net/2015/11/two-cans-and-string-support-xtcoin-revival/
pete_dushenski: ^source, BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: social media chatter
pete_dushenski: o.O
BingoBoingo: reddit and Ver's "Bitcoin.com"
pete_dushenski: looks like 'someone claiming to be ceo claims that xxx will be supported on such and such a date. maybe. if we/they/someone gets around to it"
pete_dushenski: s/'/"
BingoBoingo: Well, hard to trust signal fidelity with two cans and a string
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu likes the last few qntra days.
mircea_popescu: quantrum leap!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 376 @ 0.0027356 = 1.0286 BTC [-] {12}
BingoBoingo: seriously
BingoBoingo: Very good month, but trending better all month too
mircea_popescu: incidentally, that takimag is not bad, and taki himself is historically pretty close to sanity.
mircea_popescu: anyone sent him a line, maybe he wants a weekly column in qntra ?
BingoBoingo: Mebbe princessnell can drop a line next time she comes around these parts?
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure she's written there.
mircea_popescu: maybe not wait!
mircea_popescu: adding Ruben Navarrette to the record on http://takimag.com/article/old_white_guys_and_the_chuck_norris_rule_david_cole/
assbot: Old White Guys and the Chuck Norris Rule - Taki's Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nj5kUv )
mircea_popescu: gotta know who to kill first, after all.
BingoBoingo: I also dunno if there is a single taki? Seems to be a variety of bylines
mircea_popescu: iirc taki theodoracopulos of "of fucking course you can't rape a 16 yo MALE" fame got booted from whatever sharecropping outfit he was working for prior and struck out on his own.
BingoBoingo: I have no idea how this works
mircea_popescu: ie, http://takimag.com/article/once_upon_a_time_on_the_riviera/print#axzz3t0ax9KSA
assbot: Once Upon a Time on the Riviera - Taki's Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nj5Amq )
mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/5fb1344e33cadb35ef7891b5de5d1d99/tumblr_mgy0t2uxXP1s25aalo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QQ9Wbs )
pete_dushenski: " They were probably my happiest years ever, as the hotel was THE place to be back before the nouveau riche scum from the Middle East and the old Soviet Union polluted the place beyond repair or redemption. Visit it and weep." ~taki
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16583 @ 0.00050818 = 8.4271 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00050591 = 8.1704 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: http://qntra.net/2015/11/clinton-found-a-turkey/#comment-79293
assbot: Clinton Found A Turkey! | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/21pDBMe )
pete_dushenski: lol i too was wondering, "what clinton?"
Naphex: !rate CoraCrist 3 XOtika.tv CEO - Handles bussiness side, press, recruiting, marketing, hr, pr
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/7b8f9e6d5332347d
pete_dushenski: http://imgur.com/gallery/uBPCR << and i thought ~for sure~ that this was the 'turkey' in question.
assbot: Did...did obama just drop the dad joke of 2015? - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/21pDWyA )
Naphex: !rated CoraCrist
assbot: You rated user CoraCrist on 30-Nov-2015, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: XOtika.tv CEO - Handles bussiness side, press, recruiting, marketing, hr, pr.
pete_dushenski: also, those obama girls dress like fucking slobs omfg.
mircea_popescu: shitty age.
pete_dushenski: the president of somalia's daughters are better groomed
pete_dushenski: and sartorialised
mircea_popescu: someone explain the joke to me ?
mircea_popescu: it can't be THAT lame is it ? "oh, turkey don't" ?
pete_dushenski: it's that presidential pardons are hard to come by. "i haz power u guise!"
mircea_popescu: how's that ?
pete_dushenski: ya, it was actually the flying thing.
mircea_popescu: jesus give that man a neck pillow
mircea_popescu: lest he strains himself thinking
pete_dushenski feels sorry for the conpherence attendees who will be subjected to many more such 'jokes' in next decade of bahamas' wooden-tongued speeking toor.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050539 = 3.0829 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 378.32, vol: 17642.08042563 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 375.845, vol: 15391.26814 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 379.03, vol: 49742.75049171 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 380.0, vol: 0.61564048 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 385.443615, vol: 88905.97440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 377.2976, vol: 81.58318412 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 380.412, vol: 142.35726146 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 381.989267053
BingoBoingo: !up BashCo
BashCo: thanks BingoBoingo.
BashCo: /r/bitcoin is burning _again_... it's like that 50 year coal fire.
BingoBoingo: Reddit tends to bring out the social engineers and spammers for sure
BingoBoingo: !gettrust BashCo
assbot: BashCo is not registered in WoT.
BashCo: it's a complete mad house.
BashCo: sorry, I haven't taken the time to set that stuff up yet.
BingoBoingo: BashCo: Maybe register with assbot and submit a piece on the reddit tire fire?
mircea_popescu: ;;google bedbugs are burning
gribble: Burn, Bed Bugs, Burn!!! - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwmaJavyPQo>; BURN a bed bug !! - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeyhis-zHQA>; Bed Bug Bites, Rashes & Symptoms - Orkin: <http://www.orkin.com/other/bed-bugs/bedbug-bites/>
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: the time has come... to pay the rent...
mircea_popescu: how did that go.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00050794 = 2.8953 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !up BashCo
pete_dushenski: !up Garmin
pete_dushenski: !up Evolyn
pete_dushenski: and who might you two be ?
Evolyn: thanks
deedbot-: [Trilema] MiniGame (S.MG), November 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-november-2015-statement/
pete_dushenski: ;;seen diana_coman
gribble: diana_coman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 27 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <diana_coman> it's fun anyway :D
pete_dushenski: diana_coman: you're back !
diana_coman: I am usually lurking around pete_dushenski
diana_coman: not really gone, just not talking much
diana_coman: or rather: talking more in #eulora I suppose
pete_dushenski: and how goes the back injury recovery process ?
diana_coman: I think you might be confusing me?
diana_coman: do you mean chetty perhaps?
pete_dushenski: hahaha o dear. sorry about that.
mircea_popescu: ;;google lovelle mixon
gribble: 2009 shootings of Oakland police officers - Wikipedia, the free ...: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_shootings_of_Oakland_police_officers>; Lovelle Mixon | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers: <http://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/mixon-lovelle.htm>; 4 Oakland Police officers shot Suspect Lovelle Mixon killed Breaking ...: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJzag20LIws>
pete_dushenski: yes, i do mean chetty
pete_dushenski: ;;seen chetty
gribble: chetty was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 59 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <chetty> perhaps this will backlash into getting more people off windows ...nah, I dream
pete_dushenski: it's so hard to keep names straight when there are no faces to match them to...
mircea_popescu: alternatively, all women are the same woman, eh pete_dushenski ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i know how it goes with you racists.
pete_dushenski: well, there's hanbot, who's easy to identify because she's with mp, and there's apparently ALL THE REST
pete_dushenski: who, being unattached and not in my wot, are just vaguely ~out there~
diana_coman: lol @ "unattached"
pete_dushenski: ...to someone in the wot ;/
pete_dushenski is also a huge racialist.
pete_dushenski: i come from a long line of socialists and racialists. what can i say.
diana_coman: well, from my point of view: no harm done at all
pete_dushenski: :)
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell trinque could we have http://www.dianacoman.com/feed/ added to deedbot- ?
assbot: Ossasepia ... ( http://bit.ly/1YEpG2H )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: deedbot-: feeds add http://www.dianacoman.com/feed/
assbot: Ossasepia ... ( http://bit.ly/1YEpG2H )
deedbot-: http://www.dianacoman.com/feed/ added.
trinque: pete_dushenski: no problemo
pete_dushenski: a little more familiarity with diana_coman's writings should help to clarify and solidify the abstractions rolling around in my noodle.
pete_dushenski: trinque: cheers, you little speed demon !
deedbot-: [Ossasepia] Yo Moon, Got Phases Nao? - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/09/29/yo-moon-got-phases-nao/
deedbot-: [Ossasepia] Foxy’s Little Bots - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/09/30/foxys-little-bots/
deedbot-: [Ossasepia] Hic Sunt Flotsams on Eulora (Or the Brand New Foxymaps) - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/10/13/hic-sunt-flotsams-on-eulora-or-the-brand-new-foxymaps/
deedbot-: [Ossasepia] The Unbearably Unknown Value of Things in Eulora - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/10/22/the-unbearably-unknown-value-of-things-in-eulora/
deedbot-: [Ossasepia] Foxybots v1.2 - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/11/16/foxybots-v1-2/
deedbot-: [Ossasepia] Square Data for a Round World - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/11/24/square-data-for-a-round-world/
trinque: someday I'll fix that too, but not today!
mircea_popescu: not even sure it needs fixing.
trinque: been a few complaints; I like it as an intro to the feed
diana_coman: oh my, I might need to actually start writing with any sort of regularity now
mircea_popescu: lol
pete_dushenski: diana_coman: dun worry, folks with families (you, me, davout, ben_vulpes) aren't held to the same publishing frequency standards :P
pete_dushenski: speaking of which, deedbot- missed this yesterday in all the ddosage : http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/29/a-decade-ago/
assbot: A decade ago… | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1YEqm8f )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00050539 = 4.9276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11897 @ 0.00050794 = 6.043 BTC [+]