pete_dushenski: "Engineers are more likely to become terrorists because of mindset and lack of opportunity" and "engineers combine these political predilections with a marked preference towards finding clearcut answers."
pete_dushenski: so it's isis' unemployed engineers vs. ustard 'risk engineers' eh.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00049921 = 14.9763 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: "The team trades securities to keep rates in line with Fed policy decisions. At 12:45 p.m., a window pops open on a system called FedTrade and plays a sequence of musical notes—F-E-D—to open trading, traders said. A clock counts down the remaining time, turning from green to yellow in the final three minutes and then to red as the last 30 seconds tick off. The music plays again when the operations’ results are
pete_dushenski: "Harvard economist Dani Rodrik, who began compiling data on manufacturing world-wide a few years ago, says he is seeing growing evidence of what he calls “premature deindustrialization”—the idling or shrinking of manufacturing sectors as a share of the economy in poor countries like India that never industrialized very much in the first place." << in other not-nyooz where idjits with 'pc' blinders don't want to
pete_dushenski: ncomfortable truths lest they offend their dear sweet old mothers, indians are no better than africans and both are markedly lesser peoples than europeans and chinese.
pete_dushenski: "Africa looks more like India. In South Africa, manufacturing was 15% of output in 1962 and peaked at 25%—in 1981. By 2011, the share was closer to 18%. Factory activity in fast-modernizing Ethiopia hasn’t managed to grow beyond 6% of the economy. In Tanzania, it peaked at 13% in 1976 and dropped since to around 10%."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127784 @ 0.00049921 = 63.7911 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00050396 = 17.6386 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26984 @ 0.00050014 = 13.4958 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54416 @ 0.00049796 = 27.097 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ie, much better than now. the empire wants them to work, and will whip them just enough to actually get some work done.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of clark gable, "a good whipping would benefit oyu immensely my dear"
adlai: well what do you think would've happened to eussrope once the latter went former? or would it not have?
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 23:57:51; pete_dushenski: "Gambetta and Hertog painstakingly gather together data on individuals belonging to a variety of terrorist groups in the Muslim world. Where they are able to get the data, it displays a compelling pattern – engineers are much more prone to become members of violent terrorist organizations."
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2015 21:32:41; asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there are multiple reasonably well-documented corpses of thieves, poachers, metal hunters, killing themselves on rtg
mircea_popescu: incidentally : thinking of the cobalt parity violation. somehow im reminded of the spin engine discussions last year
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225650 @ 0.00049757 = 112.2767 BTC [-] {7}
mircea_popescu: well, cobalt decay convincingly proves "nature" has a handedness
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39600 @ 0.00049842 = 19.7374 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75350 @ 0.00049751 = 37.4874 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: << And according to Stavri – whose Twitter name is Another Angry Woman – she just wanted to see if it would work, because it “might as well make itself useful.” >>
adlai: actually i don't and i'd rather stay uny'knowing
adlai wonders aloud how come mpex public data isn't signed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5920 @ 0.00049951 = 2.9571 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: there's zero theoretical reason trade engine couldn't give proxies signed orderbooks, but y'know what they say bout theory and practice
adlai was on the verge of daily [originally hourly, but that would probably get him negrated by deedbot- itself] orderbook deeding, but then he realized the venture's futility
adlai: asciilifeform: no, remind me pls?
adlai: well it's in the logs, they'll ask him in my stead should i myself be 'sleep or dead
adlai: hmm "This means you can restrict access to your site based on traits including sex, ancestry, disease susceptability, and arbitrary characteristics associated with single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) in a person's genotype."
https://github.com/offapi/rbac-23andme-oauth2 adlai: "Ethnoreligious sects may wish to limit membership, e.g. Hasidic Jewish groups restricting access to Ashkenazi or Sephardic maternal haplogroups with the "Cohen" gene
adlai: ah, too bad, too bad. scams are always better before bust
adlai: BingoBoingo: next time link actual code, not 'science.slashdot.org' pls kthx
adlai promises to link actual vaginal yeastbread 3dprinting recipe in return
phf: asciilifeform: 23andme i still operational, they were recently approved by FDA to re-enable their health section even
phf: no idea, probably have something to do with their "compliance with law enforcement requests"?
phf: ^- see it's safe, if you're not a criminal you've got nothing to worry about
adlai: (re: "inclusion would be voluntary"... they already have every POTENTIAL recruit's biometrics, even the ones that don't get drafted. pls forget them kthx)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88871 @ 0.00049995 = 44.4311 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00049996 = 17.5986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83350 @ 0.00049996 = 41.6717 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00049745 = 13.8291 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: all bread is made with "own vaginal yeast". wtf other yeast is there.
BingoBoingo: '<adlai> BingoBoingo: next time link actual code, not 'science.slashdot.org' pls kthx << Sometimes the quick chuckle passes too soon to dig so deeply
mircea_popescu: curious who ends up with the copyrights over particularly valuable genotypes.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and didn't the scam go bust since...? << Nao has second wind. FDA Approval of some medical things.
adlai: mircea_popescu: dunno, does recombinatory fucking count as prior art?
adlai: who's mickey? and what'd he do to my minnie
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 318.4, Best ask: 318.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 318.46, 24 hour volume: 7542.05225686, 24 hour low: 318.33, 24 hour high: 323.77, 24 hour vwap: None
gribble: Error: "tickler" is not a valid command.
adlai: is this a word in english vernacular? lit. trans to hebrew means what you think it does
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00049734 / 0.00050502 / 0.00051851 (7864164 shares, 3,971.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00049734 / 0.00051218 / 0.00053875 (26072203 shares, 13,353.81 BTC), 30D: 0.00048633 / 0.00053175 / 0.00057294 (66730228 shares, 35,484.08 BTC)
mircea_popescu: about damn time technology brings solutions to the actual pressing problems of manking
mircea_popescu: no more of this sterile reinventing the same things over.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00049734 = 19.8439 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: if marriage could change, if we've progressed past narrow views of the past on so many topics from what science means and how to collect data all the way to you name it,
mircea_popescu: why should the great march of liberty stumble on ancient nonsense like laws that were perhaps valid in the middle ages, but no longer satisfy the needs of an ever progressing humanity ?
phf: also, don't forget that those so called laws were discovered by dead white men
mircea_popescu: moreover, at the time lavoisier was working on these things they had fucking kings!\
mircea_popescu: the whole population of yurp was less than the bay area. not to mention the land value.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00049734 = 18.1032 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47530 @ 0.00049718 = 23.631 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00049995 = 15.0985 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79650 @ 0.00049697 = 39.5837 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: aahaahaha "Romania is a large country, populated by a lot of distinct Internet users. Comparatively, wikipedia is a small shithole populated by a lot of indistinguishable idiots."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00049995 = 7.4993 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00049905 = 20.9601 BTC [-] {2}
felipelalli: Should I trust in BitGo Inc? If yes, why? What WoT user should I look? Thank you.
BingoBoingo: What's the point of having all those muscles when you are making dairy?
BingoBoingo: Honestly if his prolactin is that high he prolly needs more than cabergoline. Prolly needs crack, but I really dun wanna meet anyone on tren and crack at the same time.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: It's a speculative synthetic asset, with only synthetic actual connection to Bitgo. It's basically betting.
felipelalli: thank you guys. I was looking in the #b-a history and thinking: "what the hell..."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00049669 = 6.0596 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49841 @ 0.00049621 = 24.7316 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55400 @ 0.00049611 = 27.4845 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108105 @ 0.00050083 = 54.1422 BTC [+] {5}
trinque: ben_vulpes: it'll be fine!
trinque: I knew it was one of those.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19720 @ 0.00049827 = 9.8259 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7980 @ 0.00049734 = 3.9688 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18330 @ 0.0005019 = 9.1998 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00050289 = 9.2532 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00050473 = 9.6403 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33949 @ 0.00049734 = 16.8842 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5242 @ 0.00050512 = 2.6478 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Fossil fuel companies risk wasting $2tn of investors' money, study says | Environment | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1Nsi01w )
assbot: Logged on 25-11-2015 01:05:54; mircea_popescu: ie, much better than now. the empire wants them to work, and will whip them just enough to actually get some work done.
assbot: Logged on 25-11-2015 01:05:54; mircea_popescu: ie, much better than now. the empire wants them to work, and will whip them just enough to actually get some work done.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9866 @ 0.00050513 = 4.9836 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80477 @ 0.00050056 = 40.2836 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15636 @ 0.00049734 = 7.7764 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 319 @ 0.00329033 = 1.0496 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18873 @ 0.00049797 = 9.3982 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00049734 = 7.858 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00049734 = 4.3269 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: davout: per our interview. i think there is a bug in coinbase's model that paymium solved already. seems that if underlying banking partners integrated with Coinbase have a problem with a Coinbase account they tell coinbase "Shut this guy of completely or we stop letting you integrate with us."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.0005052 = 21.1931 BTC [+] {2}
davout: thestringpuller: in our case the banking partner shuts the EUR account down
davout: then it's handled directly between the banking partner and the end user
davout: and we simply refund the customer of their BTC
davout: tbh the end result is similar
thestringpuller: Well from what I've researched they also cut off the invoicing.
davout: we close the account too, but probably not for the same reason
davout: the reason for us is that it just doesn't really make sense to only have the BTC part usable
thestringpuller: Coinbase is gagged by the banks. "Bank Secrecy Act", so no one will ever know why their account was closed over here.
davout: honestly, i think it's pretty much the same shit everywhere with slightly different coatings
jurov: did it already happen at paymium?
jurov: like, they closed the acct due to,say, money laundering but no one was interested in btc side of it?
davout: i don't think we were ever requested to freeze a bitcoin balance
davout: eur accounts got frozen, but that's pretty much about it
thestringpuller: davout: but even in that instance end user can talk to bank and be like "Yo why you freezing my shit nigga?"
thestringpuller: with CBSE it's "Get the fuck out of here. Sorry we fucked up your shit."
jurov: yes i can hire french lawyer and start talking with the bank (or court)
davout: thestringpuller: yes, that's correct, they actually have someone to talk to at an institution that's regulated, they are legally a direct customer of the financial institution
punkman: davout, do they tell you why the freeze any particular account?
jurov: lol why would they
thestringpuller: Coinbase is clearly ill conceived then, if the end user has to obey banking regulations but cannot talk to the financial institution. And of course CBSE being a middleman plays dumb "We're just following orders."
davout: punkman: no, they don't. what you have to understand, is that from their point of view, we're simply shuffling euros around in their books
jurov: the question is, can sane btcusd exchange exist in the US jurisdiction at all?
davout: we simply tell them: "move 10€ from peter to john's" account
davout: (obv. very simplified example)
punkman: davout, so you just get API ERROR: FROZEN or something when you try to move money?
davout: jurov: i think by definition you'll never be able to get rid of the fiat stench if your job is handling it
jurov: punkman if you were in davout's place would you wish to know the gory details anyway?
jurov: i'd very much prefer not to
thestringpuller: davout: but in your case you can at least give your customers a chance to clean the stench off of them.
thestringpuller: Paymium in this stance is neutral. Which is how it should be
punkman: davout: so does this happen often?
davout: the financial partner is pretty anal about letting people inside in the first place (which mostly explains why our volume is weak)
☟︎ davout: the problem being the bitcoin is scary, and that they're in the business of covering their sorry ass, while we're in the business of doing business
davout: (which is why we'll very probably change partners in the very near future)
thestringpuller: I've always wondered when the first cash only exchange will pop on Tor.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00050526 = 11.722 BTC [+]
davout: thestringpuller: it exists, except it's informal, faceless and nameless
davout: pretty unsurprisingly bitcoin is sold there at a 5 to 10% premium (in my experience)
assbot: Logged on 25-11-2015 04:52:03; assbot: Europe's Latest Solution for the Refugee Shelter Shortage: Cruise Ships - gCaptain ... (
http://bit.ly/1HlEdvF )
mircea_popescu: "But if you’re in Walnut Canyon in 1150 A.D., these guys are totally amazing! They’ve got canals, stone buildings, and advanced ceramics. They were so far ahead of everybody they knew, that they are absolutely the smartest guys anybody has ever heard of. They’re the pinnacle of human achievement. They’re the Stone-Age Stanford. They’re the MIT of black and white pottery."
mircea_popescu: can't write on any topic without channeling one's 7th grade football coach doing a pep talk ?
mircea_popescu: leaving aside how they're not even wrong, too far gone off the map to even be wrong : what the fuck is with this mentally slow 12yo style of communication!
mircea_popescu: by definition of pep talk and archeology, there can not be an archeology pep talk.
mircea_popescu: also "progressive" and "advanced" do not mean the same thing, they mean the opposite thing. so they're not interchangeable.
mircea_popescu: this guy should stick to cleaning floors or w/e he does for a living, exterminate rodents.
mircea_popescu: "Fossil fuel companies risk wasting up to $2tn (£1.3tn) of investors’ money in the next decade on projects left worthless by global action on climate change and the surge in clean energy, according to a new report."
mircea_popescu: that's what i'm worried about, coal mines and oil wells. not the amazon/google/facebook/apple babyblue-chip bs.
mircea_popescu: people will sit around in the dark waiting for the cloujds to clear so they can water their farmville crops, while oil wells will sit capped and waiting for them to die out because "oil is not fashionable". this is totally happening. and it'll matter.
assbot: Logged on 25-11-2015 13:25:38; davout: the financial partner is pretty anal about letting people inside in the first place (which mostly explains why our volume is weak)
mircea_popescu: business will have to learn that it has to do a lot of cocksucking of btc folks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00050354 = 2.1652 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00050354 = 3.6758 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30950 @ 0.0004985 = 15.4286 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00050212 = 12.0258 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00050529 = 10.409 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: In other news, people are still using yahoo mail.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00050566 = 14.3355 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: so? people would have used mtgox if it still existed, too, despite it would have not paid anything for 2 years :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15265 @ 0.00049884 = 7.6148 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: now i'm gonna have to go in and take dialogue down by hand ? WHAT GOOD ARE YOU INTERNETS
punkman: could get dialogue from subtitles
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.0004991 = 2.8698 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00049797 = 3.9838 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29850 @ 0.00049796 = 14.8641 BTC [-] {3}
ascii_field: 'Some choice titles : Operiatiunea dulapul' << l0l
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00049852 = 15.7532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50750 @ 0.00050224 = 25.4887 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.000506 = 4.3516 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Nah, just Bahamas giving thanks over ISIS and another chance to use the picture
BingoBoingo: Don't really need much other joke when the existence of Hussein Bahamas is the joke.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.000506 = 15.8378 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00050061 = 11.9646 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: In 2014 alone, US Attorneys "forfeited" $4.5 billion. This dollar amount now places federal law enforcement at the top of the list of of "People Who Take Stuff That Belongs To Others."
punkman: assbot: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown << that battery pack, ermahgerd
trinque: BingoBoingo: s/immanent/imminent/
trinque: though I could see an angle for either word there.
trinque: immanent would be in the ballpark of "inherent"
mircea_popescu: immanence is a kantian concept ; imminence is the state of proximity in time of a future item to the present.
jurov: "immanent threats" caused me to remember G.W.Bush, with weird twinge at heart
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00050564 = 11.9837 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00050169 = 8.6291 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00049846 = 4.7852 BTC [-] {3}
ascii_field: 'Before hitting the trucks, the American forces dropped leaflets warning that an attack was coming, and as truck drivers are deemed to be non-combatants, they were told to "get out of your trucks now and run away from them" before the airstrikes hit.'
ascii_field: aha, why would usg shoot its own beloved pets
mircea_popescu: more like, drivers leaving trucks did more damage than the enitre rest of the ops.
ascii_field: ^ usg 'sanctions'... chairman of 'world chess federation'
mircea_popescu: what are they gonna do, steal his cash and car if he drives through washington dc ?
ben_vulpes: mostly already is, in the sense that the "police" forces are only nominally public entities in that part of the country.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38715 @ 0.00049656 = 19.2243 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: you know, i suppose i'd like the us a lot more if the people running the private "scam the suckers" entreprises there were literate and spoke enlish
mircea_popescu: i only ever liked romania, or any other place come to think of it, for that kind of reason.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.0005047 = 6.1826 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: "Application Specific Information: *** error for object 0x11d00cc08: incorrect checksum for freed object - object was probably modified after being freed." << my motherfucking ~dictionary~ keeps crashing and sending this error message.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.000506 = 6.9322 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.0005061 = 28.4934 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: haha! solvèd! just had to delete com.apple.Dictionary.plist. magique, ca.
pete_dushenski: turns out the 'apple support communities' aren't complete refuse.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39850 @ 0.00050674 = 20.1936 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: "If you're blown away by the idea that fewer than 100 people control as much wealth as half the world today, imagine how concentrated money used to be." << lol and will be.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8415 @ 0.00050678 = 4.2646 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: " A postal worker in New York City has been accused of a hate crime after harassing a Muslim woman with an infant in a stroller. He was arrested by Brooklyn police after launching an anti-Muslim tirade and reportedly spitting at the woman."
pete_dushenski: "Coley is quoted in police documents as saying “You bumbaclot Muslim,” a phrase containing a Jamaican expletive. “I’m going to burn your Muslim temple down,” he added, before spitting on the woman several times."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24398 @ 0.00049991 = 12.1968 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52900 @ 0.00049669 = 26.2749 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.000496 / 0.00049987 / 0.00050678 (2546417 shares, 1,272.90 BTC), 7D: 0.000496 / 0.00051043 / 0.00052794 (24057109 shares, 12,279.61 BTC), 30D: 0.00048633 / 0.00053083 / 0.00057294 (63295883 shares, 33,599.36 BTC)
assbot: Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
pete_dushenski: "The extent to which people in the right tail of wealth are highly educated and cognitively able was examined in a sample of 18,245 ultra high net worth (UHNW) individuals with net worth's of USD $30 million plus."
pete_dushenski: " Overall, these people were highly educated and cognitively able, and smarter"
pete_dushenski: "Jewish individuals were overrepresented by a factor of about 234. Today, the typical UHNW individual profile includes U.S. married (Christian and Jewish) men who are largely Chairman and CEO, Republican, and earned their money in finance, banking and investments."