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mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, you aware the dood has a set of detractors/"critics" yes ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 16:25 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, btw, i'm curious : has your fish friend figured out the "He admits he cannot name one other Christian leader outside his own little band of followers—anyone who has lived in the two millennia between the death of the last apostle and the advent of Darwin Fish—who has remained faithful to the truth." bla bla bla "criticism" is very strictly a http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22there+was+a+limit+where+the+fla
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815486 << this went over my head ☝︎
Mocky: wow i missed a seinfeld reference, i just watched all 6 good seasons of that, damn 2 years ago
mircea_popescu: it's a seinfeld joke. from the virgin. "you could get forty hooks in here!"
Mocky: the books and the crooks
Mocky: i don't remember that last time anyone recommended reading to me unsolicited, and now my post-it note reading list system is struggling to keep up. I'm going to need something better
mircea_popescu: ima put this in there, because ahahaha. touton : http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=tou%3Dton&la=greek&can=tou%3Dton0&prior=ei%28/lonto&d=Perseus:text:1999.01.0157:chapter=1&i=1#lexicon
mircea_popescu: aande in random words today : talaz, meaning wave in romanian. because θάλασσα.
mircea_popescu: it's true that on one hand this failed spectacularily with chinese in my own hands ( http://trilema.com/2016/lets-do-chinese-together/ ) ; and that a girl's on the record as having spent A YEAR with a moderate length ENGLIS?H text in this way. nevertheless, no other avenues work, long and involved and beset with perils as this one may indeed turn out to be.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless with patience you can construct your own dictionary translation, which may be informative ; and in any case is a process of actual learning as opposed to going to us.school.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-11 18:37 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down.
mircea_popescu: the horiz arrows / bars on top take you through the text ; if you click on any word you get a report, and lexicon links (multiple, because http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1697164 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: lobbes, if you're inclined, there's an excellent item that you can use to teach yourself greek : http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0157 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ha. only two degrees of magnitude left.
BingoBoingo: ^ Mocky you might be interested in where the trilemas linked in that news item lead
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/dubious-yet-encouraging-report-supposes-bitcoin-mining-achieved-or-set-to-promptly-achieve-0-5-of-world-energy-consumption/ << Qntra - Dubious Yet Encouraging Report Supposes Bitcoin Mining Achieved Or Set To Promptly Achieve 0.5% of World Energy Consumption
lobbes: Mocky, dun feel bad, it took me yesterday and today to finally get through that one. (well, except for the Greek, because, well, it is all Greek to me!)
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a golden thread uniting the house of strangers and http://trilema.com/2018/pepi-luci-bom-y-otras-chicas-del-monton/ : that woman, the misfortunate burden bearer, beset by stupid girlies and stupider boys.
mircea_popescu: hey, trilema is like, the larger half of the internets.
Mocky: this is hard to keep up with, i haven't even gotten though "Democracy sucks..." yet, lol
mircea_popescu: in fact, polyamory and the harem are exact opposites under this aspect, that polyamory is transparently enough an attempt to limit the depth of investment (after all, good soviet shouldn't love anything more than the party, right) whereas harem is on the contrary, what pitre'd call "an exagerated" investment. absolute enough to consider "move on or burn myself" dilemma as such.
mircea_popescu: not afaik ; moreover polyamory has naught to do with the harem ; and this even before you consider "polyamory" ie http://trilema.com/2018/heres-what-polyamory-is-not/
Mocky: yeah but isnt' that why you call it polyamory, so that after it gets jacked then well it was never a 'harem' and it was never 'yours' ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 18:14 Mocky: speaking of plot twists, pretty surprised by the Ada usage. I pictured usg.DOD-design-by-committee lang commissioned to help build out the chumpatronic-mass-programmer infrastructure for gov contracts. I guess it's time to reevaluate my priors.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 18:58 mircea_popescu: Mocky, the empire of evil started as the republic of men.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> doesn't ~anyone~ get tenure anymore ?! << Promoted out of it suggest the idle life of a single graduate seminar every other semester + lab.
mircea_popescu: and besides -- what the fuck should happen ? eventually you're old. and then dead. what, all of them should kill themselves ?
mircea_popescu: this is not so rare ; most harems end up hijacked. if slut follows soldier, then necessarily.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-24 15:26 mircea_popescu: you should see the panic when i send girl to swoop her.
asciilifeform: ( in the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-24#1805137 sense ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phunphakt re yudkowsky -- d00d has the dubious distinction, among others, of having had 'his' harem... hijacked
mircea_popescu: doesn't ~anyone~ get tenure anymore ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't specifically know, in his case. but typically they get 'promoted out' of it when reading that level.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 17:38 Mocky: i read yudkowski and liked, went to less wrong 'community' and was bunch of tards ingrouping the hell out of eachother
mircea_popescu: on meditation, i suspect the reason for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815573 actually is, that the item exists (at least at its core) as a campus dating club. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 02:13 asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'Exploring Encryption and Potential Mechanisms for Authorized Government Access to Plaintext: Proceedings of a Workshop.' Anne Johnson, Emily Grumbling, and Jon Eisenberg, Rapporteurs. THE NATIONAL ACADEMIES PRESS 500 Fifth Street, NW Washington, DC 20001 This activity was supported by the Office of the Director for National Intelligence, under Contract....
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 23:51 asciilifeform: boneh is imho an interesting example of a man who thought that intellectual and political integrity were severable
mircea_popescu: oh, they kicked him out of teaching ?
asciilifeform: Mocky: boneh is a well-funded, quite prolific usg.corrupt mathematician, with (formerly, iirc) a day job teaching undergrads ( hence your exposure )
mircea_popescu: in this sense i suppose djb is a boneh, though i don't like how he runs his harem ; wheras yuk dude is a boeck.
mircea_popescu: i suppose as far as the orcs are concerned, it's mostly a boneh-or-boeck distinction.
Mocky: surprised random dude teaching noobs over the web, was worth the mention
mircea_popescu: anyway -- you can start with say http://trilema.com/2018/democracy-sucks-the-two-thousand-four-hundred-and-change-years-old-version/ ; not the first but certainly the most recent "read, motherfuckers."
mircea_popescu: Mocky, why surprised ? the republic's well informed, its spies reach far indeed.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, sure ; though it's iffier there, in that caesar and then espeically augustus actually attempted a restart of the proper republic out of the ashes of the shit it had ended up in. caesar in this sense is the polar opposite of lincoln, ie, attempted to manipulate the overwhelming pantsuit into the extinction-or-sanity dilemma, rather than being manipulated by the underwhelming pantsuit into internecine warfare. ☟︎
Mocky: re: boneh, he seem legit as he's teaching you to trivially break reused otp, and flawed padding schemes, but that's all i know about him, just surprised to see in the logs
lobbes: much like Roman Republic > Roman Empire milllennia before >> mircea_popescu> [18:58:59] Mocky, the empire of evil started as the republic of men
Mocky: I have not read many historical texts. i think i've become too accustomed to being around people who don't read at all. i've certainly not spent time to date thinking explicitly about approaches to text comprehension
mircea_popescu: (ie, the constructive read theory of the legitimacy of the historical read would be, "it reproduces the structure of set theory without explicitly importing the priors, therefore it's valid". or something in that vein.)
mircea_popescu: ructive explanation of itself, making it meaningful in the alternative view.
mircea_popescu: n in the reduction of the tree of "what could the author possibly have meant" built on first pass is "what was author aware of". a direct way to bruteforce this problem is to look at dates -- exactly like we did above re FG question. if you'll look at dates, they become essentially the equivalent of the set limits in set theory -- and it is thereby you know the historical approach is intellectually valid -- it permits a const
mircea_popescu: in summary : comprehension of a text permits two approaches, one constructive and the other historical. if you approach it constructively, a text means the most it possibly can, irrespective of any auctorial considerations. it is from this school that we have eg, the theory of value in art, whereby "art are those texts that continue to mean after their context was extinguished". if you approach it historically, a major concer
mircea_popescu: Mocky, so we know you've not spent any considerable time in the field between literary theory and hermeneutics, however you'd call it. "advanced reading". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: taq/tpq : limit up to / from which something is measured ; there's also terminus a quo / terminus ad quem, but i don't like them because confusing to non-latin speakers.
Mocky: failed to look familiar even after explanation
Mocky: my high school latin fails me then
Mocky: i dont' recall seeing taq before, is that latin?
asciilifeform: Mocky: boneh is example of a not-entirely-talentless maths d00d who , for whatever reason, joined enemy camp as a professional fifth columnist in open-publication academia , rather than nsa in-house
mircea_popescu: (taq, btw, = terminus ante quem. upper time bound)
Mocky: on a different note, i see this Boneh fellow, is all over the logs. I think this is the same guy i took a video class coarsera "crypto 101' 18 months ago
mircea_popescu: Mocky, you'll hafta ask a better question than that.
mircea_popescu: the switch only happened recently. the exact date is debatable, perhaps http://trilema.com/2017/when-did-america-end/ ; certainly the taq would be 2001.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, the empire of evil started as the republic of men. ☟︎
Mocky: ok, thx
asciilifeform: and get breadboard, a bag of parts from a dead man's estate sale, start building simple things.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-30 01:55 asciilifeform generally believes that safety-critical code must be written in such a way that auditor can see a tight correspondence between every line and what machine physically does. note that this doesn't entail 'use C!' but can also mean different machine.
Mocky: I'm more interested in the EE side, ie actually knowing enough about the physical machine to be said auditor: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-30#815513 ☝︎
asciilifeform: Mocky: is english your favourite language to read in ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 19:42 asciilifeform: phf: let's start with the gate count
asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-02#1710095 << moar thread, for the curious n00b ) ☝︎
Mocky: I have had an interest in working on hardware for the past few years. Not in the 'make ic fab' sense, but just like 'know how to make something'. But I haven't known where to start. Not super juiced to drop some python on a raspberry pi and consider myself a 'maker'
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 17:00 asciilifeform: so yes, the only reason why anybody sells ice and 95xx -like 'sea of gates' at all, is that for 'glue' (simple boolean functions of signals, for e.g. bus decoding, addressing, simple i/o multiplexing) is that you can't actually do it reliably with the non-seaofgates devices
asciilifeform: aaaand 1) nobody makes larger homogeneous fpga 2) is likely to ever ; see thread http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-11#1769061 . ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 20:06 asciilifeform: in other 'news', it is apparently impossible to fit even ONE 4096-bit adder into an ice40-8k ( the largest in the series )
asciilifeform: nao, there ~is~ today something that there wasn't 5y ago, which is the properly-reversed fpga :
a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 16:16 asciilifeform: ( for the sake of thread-completeness, what would the ~alternative~ to this story look like? i suggest -- it'd be a process which does to ic fab what 'polaroid' process did to colour photography. find way of etching the circuit from prefab 'sandwich' without caustic baths, sputtering, etc... )
a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 21:46 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in ~factory~ machinery, afaik the trend's been quite the opposite ( small manufacturers of ic existed in 1970s by the thousand, in 1980s -- by the hundred, today -- gone. )
asciilifeform: Mocky: hardware is in an ever more dire state, than before, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806757 , 0 progress afaik anywhere at all on the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806521 front ☝︎☝︎
Mocky: asciilifeform, I must to confess to having been a reader of your blog years ago for a short time. but you seemed so bitter about the state of hardware and future prospects. maybe just my perception.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-13 23:03 asciilifeform: i suspect that mircea_popescu would actually like ada. not writing it, mind you, but seeing it written
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-13#1017692 << iirc the 1st ada thread here ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-08-30 01:55 asciilifeform generally believes that safety-critical code must be written in such a way that auditor can see a tight correspondence between every line and what machine physically does. note that this doesn't entail 'use C!' but can also mean different machine.
asciilifeform: Mocky: it was the one item left standing when asciilifeform went methodically through list of all known prog langs , and crossed off anything that didn't : bounds-check, operate free of gc, produce compact binaries for e.g. microcontrollers, support all major cpu archs , have written standard.
Mocky: i'll have a look at that
asciilifeform: ^ a notbad place to start from.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 15:16 asciilifeform: the other thing to remember, is that the win from writing in ada - but not in ada in general, but the style demonstrated in ffa in particular -- remains even if YOU HAVE NO ACCESS TO GNAT and gotta compile by hand into asm. because it forces the style of algo that CAN be safely so expressed - i.e. without presumption of pointerolade arithmetic, gc, or other cost-externalizing electrosocialisms
asciilifeform: ( folx-on-the-periphery-of-l1 : might be a good use of coupla hrs to dredge the logs for 'why ada' material that could point n00bz to, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682480 ) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: afaik boeing's passenger craft division is the last major usgdom holdout where still used
asciilifeform: Mocky: funnily enuff, it was resisted ( by lockheed et al, the whole golden toilet 'industry' ) from ~day1, and is pretty much dead in usgdom ( with respect to new contracts ) , the brass began to succumb to 'use cpp + massmarket programmertards + these-here-fancy-auditing-toolz-that-totally-work-we-promise in 1990 or so)
Mocky: speaking of plot twists, pretty surprised by the Ada usage. I pictured usg.DOD-design-by-committee lang commissioned to help build out the chumpatronic-mass-programmer infrastructure for gov contracts. I guess it's time to reevaluate my priors. ☟︎
Mocky: yeah he sounded so smart and clear thinking, but in the end ,spoiler alert, cryogenics and save the world from evil ai, wtf!
mircea_popescu: dude's become a bit of a laughingstock here, after that.
mircea_popescu: what did you like ? my knowledge is limited (by disinterest) and centered on his (very "romanian blogger"-like) failure to conceptualize / engage http://trilema.com/2015/the-harry-potter-challenge/
Mocky: i even liked his harry potter fan fic, at least better than actual harry potter
Mocky: i read yudkowski and liked, went to less wrong 'community' and was bunch of tards ingrouping the hell out of eachother ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nobody said the devil doesn't have a nice, thick, pleasant penis. the problem with the devil isn't that EVERYTHING is wrong.
Mocky: hey i'm not an evangelist of it, but at least it has an actual spec, coherent memory model and thread model. but if i have to write one more corporate java web app imma choke
mircea_popescu: well, "lesswrong" included. dood's checked all the checkboxes. recovery should have been impossible, if one credits the "merituous recovery" theory of recovery.
Mocky: i used to teach java for sun microsystems long ago