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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828460 << nor from here. lobbes i suspect that your box is down ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: 'The honours were created in 1917 by King George V during the First World War as a way of rewarding civilians and servicemen in support positions for their contribution to the war effort. Now they are used to recognise an achievement or service to the community in any area, such as the arts, charity or education. According to the Cabinet Office, an MBE is given for an "outstanding achievement or service to the community.'
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/cwjsO << vintage lul via the hoare thing. rapee was given... medal. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and other variations on the theme, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1474626 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: in usa they are sometimes able to publish books, tho, and routinely dekulakized by court
asciilifeform: ( iirc in usa they cannot )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: pretty lulzy; 'dox' of usg monkeys, posted to... shithub
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:33 mircea_popescu: rewatched http://trilema.com/2011/margin-call/ last nite ; hanbot was all "wtf is with these idiots, tax man takes 50% right off the top, and that's it ? no comment, not even a groan, not even 'how about you pay me the real amt you pay me rather than pretend double' zero ??"
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828147 << that fucking movie. first, i was pissed off none of the characters were capable of saying ~anything~ of substance about [finance, trading, anything-at-all], then i realized it's an accurate portrayal. still not sure if the thing's deliberately honest or all responsible are so clueless the kitsch was actually supposed to impress. ☝︎☟︎
trinque: nor root of the site
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 07:38 lobbes: speaking of, trinque could I get http://blog.lobbesblog.com/feed/ added to blogroll?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827686 << cannot hit that URL from here ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: this resulted in a 50k win by the "victim" and a 800k win in "court costs".
mircea_popescu: in ongoing lulz, "A v Hoare, [2008] UKHL 6 is a leading tort case in British law, decided by the House of Lords in 2008. The Lords held that the limitation period for actions founded on torts of negligence may be disapplied where it is inequitable to enforce it."
asciilifeform: trinque: loox like it hasn't climbed to post level of yet
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 23:07 spyked: in other news, I've been using most of my spare cycles lisping in ada. should be able to wrap up a blog post sharing a very minimal prototype (sane implem. of repl doing nothing but basic ops) in a few weeks. what I've got now adheres to most of ffa constraints. the current version isn't very clean, but getting there...
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 18:47 asciilifeform: trinque: naa wasn't a heathen link, was selfmade thing
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828348 << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736830 << I see the discussion threads, but didn't find the post on thetarpit.org ☝︎☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/wood-impregnated-in-oil-a-metaphor/ << Trilema - Wood impregnated in oil, a metaphor.
mircea_popescu: that;s the hope, anywya. we see.
mod6: i'll take another one when the shipment arrives in .uy, no problem at all.
mod6: i'll even go one further... if the FG USB-TTL becomes a pressing issue, for some reason, I'll give ya mine from my rockchip.
diana_coman: if we can indeed just move it over on a wed downtime then yes, not needed for sure;
mod6: ok sounds like a plan then. thanks for being flexible here.
mircea_popescu: anywya, just trying to work with these fellows within their surprising constraints.
mircea_popescu: if indeed we just move it back to old one during a wed downtime, we need nothing.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it's certainly fine for testing at this stage; presumably later if we get everything compiling fine and bring eucrypt in we might want to have both but it's not at all a requirement atm
ben_vulpes: end of july for the whole package
diana_coman: i.e. the ssds and the full set of fg
diana_coman: mod6, when is the eta for having them?
mod6: (we'll obv. add the second one in there as soon as the addtional USB-TTLs arrive)
mod6: Maybe that's ok to just get one FG up and running for the test environment? We're shipping addtional ones down there asap as well. They'll come separately from the SSDs though.
asciilifeform: mod6: ben_vulpes the other day agreed to finally send his stash
mod6: so we should be good to go then to meet our EoM deadline.
mod6: im assuming we also have spare ethernet cords down ther
mod6: lobbes: you still wanna buy & ship some SSDs for pizarro for BTC? chat us up in #pizarro about the details.
asciilifeform insisted on bolting the spare boxen into the rack, given as it is really 2man job
mod6: we've got FGs, and iirc, we've also got two remaining USB-TTLs right?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 a) why not just sell it to pizarro and b) it's really no rush, end of the month's fine. << thanks for the time horizon. we'll plan on getting the hot-spare racked and going for sure by end of June.
asciilifeform misread as 'whipping back to front', was puzzled
mircea_popescu: but i suppose this is what you get for wiping back to front
asciilifeform: couldn't make these up, i swear
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828353 << Sam25218 23F "I think my vagina just made the windows shut down noise. Begone you irksome cockwomble." ☝︎
diana_coman: sounds ok to me too
mircea_popescu: ah, so then adult raid, just not adult populated. this seems fine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i procured, for this reason, identical raid cards for all
ben_vulpes: box can come up for testing with the spare ssd drive held for s.mg raid redundancy; then reprovision with cuntoo later in the month and the fat stack of SSDs to flesh out the raid array for the production cutover.
mod6: Anyway, that's what I'm thinkin. We stand up what we have onhand for S.MG. And meanwhile, we order 5 1Tb SSDs for immediate shipment. When recieved, we ship another 5.
mircea_popescu: no, the idea is, she stands up a working pile on the non-raid system, attempts to move it over, it don't boot, because raid.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if disk failure is the concern
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can backup to the larger box, neh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only catch is that "o wait, kernel now dun work"
ben_vulpes: nah no stress, workin out how to best serve s.mg
mod6: asciilifeform: aha, they can decide to add the additional drives any time after the first shipment is received. Totally up to S.MG.
mod6: I've just been told that I don't even need to give S.MG a drive, or sell it one. Apparently I misunderstood and there already is a drive available for this environment. Just one, and that's alwasys been there iirc.
asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu : it was my understanding that mircea_popescu & diana_coman wanted a test bed, and will eventually swap back to orig s.mg box; so not clear if the spare needs a full adult raid
mircea_popescu: mod6 a) why not just sell it to pizarro and b) it's really no rush, end of the month's fine. ☟︎
mod6: -july. 3) Upon receipt of the first drive shipment, we can add those additional drives to the hot-spare-evironment - as needed. They'll be earmarked for S.MG. 4) Pizarro will then actually place another order of 5 drives to be shipped just to have on hand.
mod6: And what we're proposing is this: 1) the bitcoin foundation will give S.MG its SAMSUNG 1tb ssd - we can get that drive into the hot-spare-environment and get it racked in the next i.e. 48 hours. This will allow diana_coman to boot up and do whatever testing/gymnstaics she needs. meanwhile 2) Pizarro will make 1st order of 5 1tb ssds from shitazon and have those shipped asap. They should arrive by about mid
mircea_popescu: putin doesn't understand how the world works.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet is working through learning ru, and periodically succumbs to temptation of google translate as 'learning tool', with predictably lulzy result ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: google translator is pretty much same 1970s lultron as produced 'the vodka is tasty but the meat -- rotten' from 'spirit is willing but flesh is weak', famously
mircea_popescu: note the ambiguity, "represent ~to others~"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for your lulz file, google thinks представьте себе = "represent yourself".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: translates ok, as i currently see it , even to jp ( but asciilifeform would not yet undertake such a thing )
mircea_popescu: mod6 last i heard and signed off on, alf's gonna put the cuntoo on the box as soon as you folks have it.
mod6: Hi all. So we're trying to figure out what we can do here regarding the s.mg hot-spare box.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'll find that ro translates, generally, cleanly, to ru
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neh, 'put forth to yourself'
spyked: asciilifeform, yes, found w4rez. and used it as reference. and the lisp evaluator works on simple programs (implemented most higher-order functions in it), but the code is organized like crap. and I'm not sure I made the correct cut between "builtin procedures" and e.g. keywords such as "lambda". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't that more like vede, "see" ?
mircea_popescu: this word, incidentally, is like the english "set". means "ways, means, form, face, expression" etc.
mircea_popescu: in other sads, article fucking untranslatable. "inchipuiti-va" is not romanian for "imagine", because that's imaginati-va. it's the vocative of the act of creating a form/face (chip) in your mind. which does not exist in english as such, unless you go to "mentally iconify" or somesuch barbarism.
asciilifeform: it's exactly the likbez for subj.
asciilifeform: spyked: were you able to get hold of the french d00d's 'lisp in small pieces' ?
spyked: and I don't know how to cut it in small, readable pieces.
asciilifeform: iirc asciilifeform described exactly how to cure pointerolade in adascheme ( use array of cells, and ordinary ranged integer for addressing )
spyked: I managed to make the thing run without a heap, I think the problem's more in my understanding of Lisp's evaluation model.
mircea_popescu: spyked afaik this ran in entirely unsolvable memory addressing problems, that true ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:23 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1738140 <-- ftr, I am following phf's initial advice re. reading lisp in small pieces; this, along with kogge's book. but at snail's pace (code easier to write than read)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:19 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737923 <-- also, spyked's adalisp is missing more fundamental things, such as closures. it's an early prototype, barely usable, but > 0. interning is of course considered, but not added yet. anyway, phf, consider the following point: built-in symbols (car, cons, etc.) still have to point *somewhere*, and that somewhere must not be addressed in a C-machine style! symbols should point to Lisp memory (via
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 14:06 phf: spyked: r5rs and tinyscheme are not the right places to start on the other, non-ada end, i'd recommend looking at lisp in small pieces. you can tease out the theory out of tinyscheme, but it's definitely easier not to get bogged on accidentals if you start from theory
spyked: asciilifeform, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722613 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741176 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741181 and there are certainly others. I kept reading and adding some basic pieces to it, but IMHO is still very much "roadside item" ☝︎☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: ima give it till the hour an' then reveal, this is something else.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz (from there where the hopeless cunts posture) : Sam25218 23F Exploring "It costs £0.00 to not be like this." LordMPofTMSR 37M Master "For the same money it'd cost you nothing to stop washing and go about in rags. What nonsense is this ?!"
asciilifeform: spyked: do you happen to have threadlink handy ?
asciilifeform: trinque: the heathen item linked, has e.g. unbound strings, and related nopes
spyked: quite the backbreaker, yes. I have some coad, but it sucks (iirc I linked some of it and phf tore it to pieces).
asciilifeform: trinque: naa wasn't a heathen link, was selfmade thing ☟︎
a111: 2018-06-18 <spyked> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-15#1825614 <-- I wonder if dood is still tuned in (maybe read-only? I know I was for more than a coupla years). kinda enjoyed the conversations back in the day.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 17:44 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736892 << some years ago, several people got together and worked through 'an incremental approach to compiler construction', one nick fitzgerald worked through it in ada: https://github.com/fitzgen/ada-scheme
mircea_popescu: i think this was spyked's thing
mircea_popescu: from city hall to cnc mill, the works.
mircea_popescu: this is how we ended up rebuilding the whole town around powerplant as part of powerplant rebuild project.
asciilifeform: compared to, e.g., trb reactor dismantlement and rod replacement , re-creating the useful part of emacs is light work.
mircea_popescu: put that in brother's graybeard an' smoke it!11
asciilifeform: yes. tho currently toolbox consists of rusty old emacs, and ~barehands.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but this is my point. "why are you using emacs when in fact trb will need ada scheme anyway and then you could just have a musl-gnat nerwmacs" ?
asciilifeform recently had lengthy emacs convo with asciilifeform's brother, greybeard incurable emacsist , re 'yes we will ditch the autoinstallable packets' . initially horrified, then it dawned on him
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:29 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828076 << phf in retrospect tinyscheme plugin was an ill-conceived thing. such item really calls for a troo adatronic scheme thing.